Jeremy Bates Offense: PA Bootleg Right #1

by John Morgan on Jul 26, 2010 1:53 PM PDT

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Formation: Trips left, wide receiver right, shotgun.

Projected Personnel:

-Trips (from left to right): T.J. Houshmandzadeh, Chris Baker, Golden Tate.

-Back: Justin Forsett

-QB: Charlie Whitehurst

-WR (right): John Carlson

Stages:

1. PA toss left: Running back loops towards left sideline. Left tight end blocks in. Left tackle pulls towards left flat.

2. Primary routes: Leftmost wide receiver runs a crossing pattern. Rightmost receiver (in this case, a tight end) runs a ten yard hook-out.

3. Boot and outlet: Quarterback boots against the toss motion (in this case, right). The innermost receiver of the trips cuts behind the line and provides an outlet should the end or left outside linebacker crash towards the quarterback.

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Schwiiiing!

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Jul 26, 2010 2:18 PM PDT reply actions

Definitely have seen this play from a number of teams.

Feels like we’ve run it, with the rollout right and the outlet receiver in the flat in front of him, though that’s probably usually the blocking back after there’s no blitzer to chip.

The 2 receiving options don’t seem to offer the defensive right of most back sevens much trouble. I guess it relies on the wideouts to make plays if they can be given the ball in any kind of space/in stride. I guess that’s where the value of a Brandon Marshall really stands out.

If this is exemplary of Bates at all, and it feels like it is, the contrast with Knapp seems to be more in allowing opportunities for big plays to be created dynamically, by what the receivers do, what lapses of execution the defenders make or a defensive playcalling mismatch to the play. Compared to Knapp making opportunities for big plays off of formations, personnel shifts, and setting up the play through playcalling sequences.

Mostly pre-snap decisions and activity, with Knapp, while Bates seems to be more in what unfolds during the play. Which calls for more trust in key players, although it’s got maybe more safety nets, in extended time to throw away, simpler reads, easy throws, moving QB.

I don’t know which one I prefer. I am excited for the Bates offense. I just…don’t have closure on Knapp. Some things I didn’t like about his offense but I think when not poleaxed by a dearth of talent his offense will kick ass.

by jacobstevens on Jul 26, 2010 2:33 PM PDT reply actions

Bootlegs are fun and all.

But having Matt as the QB in either system really doesn’t float my boat. As you watch the play unfold, his particular tools seem really out of whack for what positive things could happen on the play. But maybe that viewpoint is skewed by so many rollouts that failed for other reasons.

Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...

by Cheddar28 on Jul 26, 2010 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions

what happens to the right end?

Is it presumed that the RE slants in to chase the playaction fake? Because if not, this looks like Matt getting a faceful of defensive lineman the second after he peels around.

by djafrot on Jul 26, 2010 3:08 PM PDT reply actions

The left end (I assume that's who you mean) chases action, but the quarterback needs to have some wheels.

In Denver, Bates used a lot of pitches to set up play action and a fairly high number of designed quarterback runs to set up roll outs.

by John Morgan on Jul 26, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions

oops, yes, the left end.

Interesting. I guess we need an RB who can hit the outside too, then. Or two.

by djafrot on Jul 27, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions

I hate myself for asking this.

What is PA? Is this a hand-off running play? I’m stupid and confused.

"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM

by Nick Andron on Jul 26, 2010 4:11 PM PDT reply actions

playaction

It denotes when the quarterback fakes a handoff to a running back, then goes to pass instead, confusing the defense.

Others here may give more detailed responses, but that’s the essentials.

by djafrot on Jul 26, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions

Thanks. I thought about "PA" for about 5 minutes

and just couldn’t figure what it stood for.

"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM

by Nick Andron on Jul 26, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions

Don't feel bad dude.

I always thought it stood for “Pass Attempt” when I would play Madden with my uncles when I was a kid

by Jackrabbit5683 on Jul 26, 2010 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions

I will have a lot more of these tomorrow and through the week

Monday is always the big day at SB Nation Seattle, and I’m finishing my tenth hour, so I’m heading out.

Oh, check this out if you’re interested: http://seattle.sbnation.com/2010/7/26/1589203/the-top-20-types-of-seattle-sports

by John Morgan on Jul 26, 2010 4:47 PM PDT reply actions

Jersey: Lou Piniella

Priceless.

“The Realist” was my favorite. I know too many buddies that’re actually like that.

"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM

by Nick Andron on Jul 26, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions

The person I can talk to most about the Seahawks,

is my girlfriend. All my guy friends are at the Starcraft 2 midnight release instead of posting on Field Gulls. Oh, and one of them likes the Broncos as much as the Hawks.

Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...

by Cheddar28 on Jul 26, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions

It's okay to multitask

I’m downloading SC2 right now, wearing my Carlson jersey and posting on Field Gulls. Also, I was born in Denver, so despite the fact I call no team but the Seahawks ‘my’, I still can’t hate on the Broncos as vehemently as I should.

Portland transplant to Boston.

by cmcdougall on Jul 27, 2010 6:55 AM PDT up reply actions

Yeah hating the Broncos was fun

but once McDaniels and Neckbeard are gone I won’t have a huge problem with them anymore.

Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...

by Cheddar28 on Jul 27, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions

The Hater sounds familiar.

by Nate Dogg on Jul 27, 2010 12:33 AM PDT up reply actions

One quick suggestion for your graphics

I may be slow today, but it took me awhile to figure out that the block: “T” wasn’t the tight end, or where the tight end was moving to. It’s the same size and color as the player letters and muddies the formation up a bit. A quick and easy fix would be to make the “pull” and “block” graphics medium or dark gray instead of black (change pull to gray as well since it’s always followed by a block, that way it’s nice and consistent). I think that would make everything look a bit cleaner.

by B.B.Finnegan on Jul 26, 2010 7:26 PM PDT reply actions