Jeremy Bates Offense: Motion Pitch Right

by John Morgan on Jul 27, 2010 3:32 PM PDT Comment 13 comments

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Formation: Three wide receivers / tight end -> wide receiver (left / right) two tight ends (right)

Projected Personnel

-Motioned tight end: John Carlson

-Left wide receiver: T.J. Houshmandzadeh

-Running back: Justin Forsett

-Right guard: Max Unger

-Right tackle: Sean Locklear

-Right interior tight end: Chris Baker

-Right wide receiver: Mike Williams

Stages

1) Leftmost wide receiver motions to outside right tight end.

2) Motion tight end blocks in: Interior tight end pull forward. Right guard and right tackle pull forward.

3) Back receives pitch right, runs around right tackle: Receivers feign route, engage defender when the jig is up. The rusher continues up field attempting to maximize lane between pulling linemen / tight end and right wide receiver.

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Maybe I'm a noob with terminology

… but the graph shows the leftmost TE motioning to outside of the right tight end.

When a TE is lined up in a receiving position (as in this play), are they then referred to as a WR?

"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM

by Nick Andron on Jul 27, 2010 3:45 PM PDT reply actions

The potion is wide receiver

but the player is a tight end.

by John Morgan on Jul 27, 2010 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions

Do you use the term "split end"?

inside of a dog it's too dark to read.

by shams on Jul 27, 2010 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions

The tight end starts the play at split end.

by John Morgan on Jul 27, 2010 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions

It's all pretty complicated, and depends on the terminology used at the time or in the system.

But an end is ALWAYS on the line of scrimmage, be it a “tight end” (which is lined up close to the offensive line) or a “split end” which is split out wide like where a wide receiver lines up.

WR’s can be split ends or flankers. Flankers are lined up out wide like split ends, but off the line of scrimmage and thus able to motion.

It gets worse when players who USUALLY play tight end are lined up outside. Carlson typically lines up as a tight end, and is marked so in the program, but could very easily line up out wide like a wide receiver or in the backfield like a running back.

Sorry if I’m assuming you know less than you do. The whole terminology thing of WR’s, TE’s and the such has always fascinated me for some reason.

by djafrot on Jul 27, 2010 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions

Thanks much.

Since you’re riffing, X, Y, Z, slot…

inside of a dog it's too dark to read.

by shams on Jul 27, 2010 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions

Look what I found!

Go ESPN go.

http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=3007647

by djafrot on Jul 27, 2010 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions

Understood.

So you will describe a player in these graph by their ‘potion’ and not roster position.

Is that a fair assumption?

"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM

by Nick Andron on Jul 27, 2010 6:53 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions

Now that is one kickass play!

Doesn’t necessarily play to Unger & Locklear’s strengths, but they oughtta be fine here.

Doesn’t really look like cut back lanes could open up? But that can be a big change of pace positive here. Could look like a stretch to the SLB & MLB, not likely but could, and if the Sam doesn’t go straight to sealing off the edge out of regard for a potential cutback, big gains.

Straightforward but not overly simple. This just has the look of being real effective. And if not just theplay by itself, what it does for the inside zone run and the PA pass offense. The other plays you’ve diagrammed were what I imagined Bates to be, more or less, and that’s good, but this one I love.

by jacobstevens on Jul 27, 2010 4:11 PM PDT reply actions

This play is awesome.

I can’t wait to run it in Madden.

by DJ C-Raig on Jul 27, 2010 7:31 PM PDT reply actions

The key block here,

seems to be Carlson’s or whoever the motion TE is. My guess is that Locklear chips the defensive Left End? If JC doesn’t take advantage or if Locklear’s chip misses or is weak sauce, that End is gonna have a clear shot at the running back.

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by Cheddar28 on Jul 27, 2010 9:35 PM PDT reply actions

Difficult block as well

The diagram shows the DE is blocked down by the motion TE with the set TE doing the chip and the RT pulling out to get leverage on the Sam. Is that correct?

That means the DE can either quickly move to the RT’s left and have a chance to take the RB from behind if he is slow or tries to cut back, or if he plays to the RT’s right he can potentially block up 3 defenders leaving the LBs free. That chip has to be hard, the DE plays to the RT’s left, and the timing of the motion TE to do the final block has to be right on.

by SpellStitchedHawk on Jul 27, 2010 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions

The pitch helps a ton

Instead of receiving a hand off and then attempting to move laterally to the outside, a pitch allows the running back to begin moving towards the outside at the snap. It’s a split-second difference, but a meaningful difference. I really like the pitch and am happy that both Bates and Gibbs seem to favor it. It adds a little passing game to the run game. It adds that element of possession “jumping.”

by John Morgan on Jul 28, 2010 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions