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"Seahawks Training Camp" is SEO Approved: Starting Strong Safety

All this mealy mouthed talk of competition is about to be put to the test. In previous seasons, all but a few starters were determined prior to camp. All but a few roster spots were determined before camp. And utility-grade defensive back Jordan Babineaux beating out futility-grade secondary coach Brian Russell qualified as Big News.

Pete Carroll sees competition as a defining quality, a life philosophy. "Always compete!" he insists. But in fair competition, something is at stake and everyone participating in that competition has an equal chance of winning. That is rarely the case in training camp. Starters develop inertia. The business of football must be honored, and higher-paid players are given every chance to retain their spot. Early-round rookies are fast tracked. Basically, competition is a mirage. And so likely will it be for the Seahawks.

A few positions are up for grabs, not because of a mandate for competition, but because no player owns that position. Bad teams have little reason to keep their corps intact, and the Seahawks have undergone historic roster turnover since the end of the 2009 season. I could lump this all into one long post, but then, no one would read it and I would shoot myself in the foot regarding page views*.

Strong Safety

2009: Deon Grant

Grant was the first and only major cut by the Seahawks. He played strong safety, and seemingly already miscast in the role, Grant would have been an especially poor fit for Carroll's system. Carroll likes larger, enforcer type strong safeties.

Early favorite: Lawyer Milloy

Pete Carroll inherited Lawyer Milloy after he became the New England Patriots head coach in 1997. Yes, Milloy is indeed that old. He is the big, tough, leathery, fear-inducing strong safety that Carroll wants, but he's also old, slow and has no future with the team or within the NFL.

The Incumbent: Jordan Babineaux

This is a misnomer. Babineaux played free safety. Jordan does not fit the scheme, was not particularly impressive last season and is likely to revert to backing up Earl Thomas and playing utility defensive back.

The Rookie: Kam Chancellor

Chancellor fits the profile and has the smarts, but the preseason will determine where he lands. He could start. He could end on the practice squad.

The Import: Kevin Ellison

Ellison started three seasons at USC and started nine games as a rookie for San Diego. Then he was caught with a grip of pills, charged with felony possession and released by the Chargers. He is awaiting trial. Dr. House excelled at strong safety at USC, knows the system, and enjoys all the built-in biases towards familiarity, but, apart from being less talented than Chancellor, Eillson might soon be incarcerated. County could seriously limit his range in cover.

The Dark Horse: Jamar Adams

Indeed, Adams has been around since the Carter administration, but he continues to hold on to a roster spot, and, for once, has the right skill set to suit his coach's needs. Adams is a vicious thumper that has never proved his ability to cover. He has the age, experience and skill set to seize this position. Also, he is very likely to be cut.

Star-divide

I am attempting a social experiment over at SB Nation Seattle that will either succeed, drive me nuts or end my sports writing career. Wish me luck!

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Without even clicking, I knew what link that would be.

It’s all I have really ever seen of Adam’s on field play at any level, but that one youtube video is enough to make him one of my favorite Seahawks.

I suspect his time here is winding down, though, I’d love to see him find a spot on, preferably, the Raiders, but KC and SD would work too and just keep up the savagery when ever he and Tebow share the field.

by Dizzy Saturn on Jul 30, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pounding Tebow?

Ahh…yes! I could watch clips like that for hours. I hope someone breaks his face.

Red Bryant: surprise us!

by Misfit74 on Jul 30, 2010 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Why?

What’s wrong with Tebow? What has he ever done wrong, other than be fawned over by the press? He seems like a perfectly good kid to me

by djafrot on Jul 30, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe not expendable, maybe just redundant.

Assuming the most likely scenario is Milloy/Thomas starting with Kam/Babs as backups, I don’t think they’ll need or want another hard-hitting safety SS.

by MT Olson on Jul 30, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't look at it like that.

Kam is the backup to Milloy if Kam earns that position. If Adams outplays Chancellor, then he deserves to be the backup and Chancellor can go on the practice squad. (Caveat being that Chancellor might be signed by another team.)

by John Morgan on Jul 30, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

(Is there a way to guarantee he wouldn't be?)

Is there anyway to safely practice squad a player, red shirt him as it were?

As much as I root for Adams, I don’t know if it would be worth the, uh, Chance. We already got lucky once with Forsett; don’t want another Bennett episode(what’s he been up to anyway?).

by Dizzy Saturn on Jul 30, 2010 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Options options, decisions decisions

None of them seem very appealing to me, tho I – probably like most here – would like to see Chance starting at some point of the season, if nothing else to see if he has a future, tho no doubt he’ll be whiffing all over the place.

I have noticed your SBNation Seattle posts have been of a more typical “hits-generating”, less thinky variety. How’s that working out so far?

by Thomas Beekers on Jul 30, 2010 12:19 PM PDT reply actions  

It's practically mandated.

I am fighting tooth and nail, but it’s not a fight I will win.

by John Morgan on Jul 30, 2010 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

It does show a demonstrated committment here as well...

Thanks for knowing what sells to the 51%ers, yet giving us 10%ers what we can’t get anywhere else.

Keep up the great work.

by trippsixxes on Jul 30, 2010 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks

I wrote a plan last night for surviving this, and rule number two was “Keep Field Gulls clean.” And I don’t mean profanity free.

by John Morgan on Jul 30, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is awesome

I can get my hit-mongering news from Florio. Or many other SBNation blogs, sadly.

by Thomas Beekers on Jul 30, 2010 4:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

"Long time listener - first time caller"

hear hear… this site is awesome – profanity and all! It is really refreshing and I probably check it too many times a day…

by dassler10 on Jul 30, 2010 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Is there anything we can do to help?

I’m not sure I really understand what’s going on, but I’m guessing you need/want to generate hits. Would it help if we clicked through from the SBNation page?

by Jason_D on Jul 31, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

One Correction: New England Patriots, not NYG

Haven’t posted in forever, and hate to have my first post in a while be an edit suggestion! Lame

by G'd Up on Jul 30, 2010 12:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Thank you.

My blunders will not hurt my SEO!!

by John Morgan on Jul 30, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

So
I am attempting a social experiment over at SB Nation Seattle

Does this by chance involve headline-writing?

by busplunger on Jul 30, 2010 1:57 PM PDT reply actions  

So how many will be kept?

2? 3 if Babineaux is backup free/utility?

by jacobstevens on Jul 30, 2010 2:16 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm thinking we'll keep 5 safeties, at most

Thomas, Babs and Chance all have guaranteed spots on the 53-man roster (IMHO), so Milloy, Adams and Ellison are fighting over 1 or 2 roster spots. Milloy is probably the favorite, but if he is indeed running on fumes I hope that’s evident before the preseason ends. I would prefer to keep youth over experience this season.

by J.L. White on Jul 30, 2010 9:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

In Carroll's system I wonder how he deals with the talent/experience gap?

NFL experience would seem to give Adams some advantage in competing for a spot, but he is perhaps less talented or differently talented than Chancellor (?). Hypothetically, if Adams outcompetes Kam early on, but seemingly has a lower ceiling, which player does Pete keep? For players on the cusp, can experience trump talent to the detriment of the long term strength of the team? Particularly in the case of a player who could be sent to the PS and lost, ala Force. Fingers crossed that doesn’t happen to Kam, but I have a feeling they will value that draft pick too much to risk it (barring him totally sucking it up).

by Menthu Ra on Jul 30, 2010 4:03 PM PDT reply actions  

Specail Teams, Roles will decide the backups

I see Lawyer and Thomas as shoe ins for SS / FS. Kam and Babs for the backups – Kam for special teams and Babs as backup Nickel. Is Adams still eligible for the PS?

My sick dream scenario is Milloy flatlining Tebow in week two, taking them both out for several weeks, with Kam filling in and taking over the spot long term. Hopefully Thomas will have learned enough to survive by then.

And no I don’t hate Tebow per se. I despise all the Floridian born agains that have created this diva and can’t wait till he tries his strong armed running game play against a real defense with very fast and hungry LBs without incredible WRs to throw to.

Maybe Tebow can be good. I just hope he gets banged around a bit first and earns his way. That, I will respect..

by SpellStitchedHawk on Jul 31, 2010 12:28 AM PDT reply actions  

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