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Postgame: Seahawks 20 - Titans 18: Winners and Losers

Something brief:

Big Winners

Charlie Whitehurst: Wins on two fronts: poise in the pocket, confident reads and confidence in the system. Loses his tail: Losman looks terrible.

Kevin Vickerson: Big man, big power and flashed Mebane-quick first step.

Quinton Ganther: Chewed carries and proved versatility. Hard to see him excluded from the final 53.

Winners

Josh Wilson: Big picture: a pick in the preseason means little. Game specific: pretty pick achieved through great coverage and better timing; big plays will help him win starting left cornerback position.

Cameron Morrah: Wasn't great, but for a toolsy tight end, showing ability during game action is an achievement.

Mike Williams: Loved the block. Loved the redirect on the touchdown run.

Undetermined

Matt Hasselbeck: Bates regular use of slants is a boon, but Hasselbeck looked as shaky as ever. Mid-range zip may be gone.

Kam Chancellor: Pick was a gimme. Fill fill fill -- as a run stuffer, but that's not surprising. Still must prove coverage ability.

Chris Clemons: Nice sack. Active. Question wasn't whether a situational pass rusher turned starter can rush the passer, but whether he can survive the run game and stay healthy while doing it. It still is.

Losers

Seahawks interior offensive line: I can't pick it apart yet, but pressure was streaming from the interior and with regularity.

Julius Jones: No proof that he can succeed in base offense.

Golden Tate: Jitters, yes, but a bad game is a bad game.

Big Losers

Sean Locklear: Abused and regularly.

Ricky Foley: Can't be a fringe player and disappeared so easily. Saw Foley attempt the edge and get swallowed up multiple times.

J.P. Losman: Throwing off back foot. No read. Kill the receiver shots underneath. Too old and too experienced to show this poorly.

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My level of hope/expectations for this season are the same after this game.

I’m more worried about the O-Line, but seeing good things from Whitehurst makes me feel better about it. I’m still worried about the D-Line, but our Secondary looks to be as voracious as expected. I would like to go 1-3 in the Preseason, just so we win the Superbowl next year.

by DJ C-Raig on Aug 14, 2010 10:25 PM PDT reply actions  

agree on all fronts...

I’m almost ready for my whitehurst jersey…

by 206via919 on Aug 14, 2010 10:27 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Whitehurst looked guuuuuud!

Josh Wilson was his usual solid self.
Matt looked bad but it’s week 1 pre season so….

"I ain't got time to breath."
Watch Tosh.O
Pain don't hurt...

by RolloTomasi on Aug 14, 2010 10:28 PM PDT reply actions  

So many questions on D

Which abused an incompetent offense/QB for most of the game but was just trampled by the starting O. I hope they show up against the Pack to some extent. Hefty test.

by Thomas Beekers on Aug 14, 2010 10:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Quick!

Name their starting quarterback now!

Seahawks Fans Cannot Be Cured

by TheLaird on Aug 14, 2010 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Edwards?

I have to be honest, I’m not completely sure they have a starting QB right now.

by Thomas Beekers on Aug 14, 2010 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

By gosh, your're right!

Had to look it up.

Seahawks Fans Cannot Be Cured

by TheLaird on Aug 14, 2010 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Much as I hate to, I would demote Hasselbeck to "losers"

The sideline interview was the first I’d heard him sounding like a player who is realizing that his career might be over.

Seahawks Fans Cannot Be Cured

by TheLaird on Aug 14, 2010 10:36 PM PDT reply actions  

qb

Matt is his savior.

by BHL on Aug 14, 2010 10:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Ray Willis?

I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul - Invictus

by EequalsMc2 on Aug 14, 2010 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unger, Okung, another RT

We might be revisiting our Tobeck-Hutch-Walt days soon

I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul - Invictus

by EequalsMc2 on Aug 15, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

There may be a free agent.

It’s still be pri-3 after QB and pass rush. But yes.

by jacobstevens on Aug 16, 2010 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Suprising how bad Matt was.

Sad for old times sake, but………… Cya big guy. Last year we all knew the truth, todays game kinda sealed the deal. Force was nicely shifty. CANDY MOUNTAIN AT LAST!!!!!!

by canter on Aug 14, 2010 10:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Oh, and from the highlights...

THANK GOD we get to play the Rams twice!

Seahawks Fans Cannot Be Cured

by TheLaird on Aug 14, 2010 10:54 PM PDT reply actions  

I was stuck in upstate New York

and missed the game FML…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZDUh9yboqI

Your culture is primitive; yet so funky!

by jubelthebear on Aug 14, 2010 10:55 PM PDT reply actions  

LOL

Whitehurst 14/22 214 107.0 QB rating?

This is not the same Whitehurst from SD’s preseason games…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZDUh9yboqI

Your culture is primitive; yet so funky!

by jubelthebear on Aug 14, 2010 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Clearly, we got robbed by San Diego in that deal. Clearly.

He showed enough that some fears have been relieved. Obviously we need to see more – against better competition.

Red Bryant: surprise us!

by Misfit74 on Aug 14, 2010 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

muwahahaha!

We’re better off with Gradkowski

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZDUh9yboqI

Your culture is primitive; yet so funky!

by jubelthebear on Aug 14, 2010 11:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

This also is true.

Seriously.

Seahawks Fans Cannot Be Cured

by TheLaird on Aug 14, 2010 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

no seriously

Whitehurst pretty much was performing behind last years 1st string o-line :-(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZDUh9yboqI

Your culture is primitive; yet so funky!

by jubelthebear on Aug 15, 2010 5:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pitcock

recorded a QB hit… yay…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZDUh9yboqI

Your culture is primitive; yet so funky!

by jubelthebear on Aug 14, 2010 11:03 PM PDT reply actions  

In Madden, sitting on his couch

or in the real game?

Field Gulls: my anti-PFT.

by PRIDEin253 on Aug 15, 2010 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

I did see Foley with one special teams tackle.

Otherwise, he largely went unnoticed.

Red Bryant: surprise us!

by Misfit74 on Aug 14, 2010 11:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Thoughts:

Whitehurst: wow, outperformed expectations. He looked awesome, great reads and pressence in the pocket. Zings his throws on slants and curls.

Pass rush: after the first series I saw glimmers of hope. Clemons looked good to me. I would like to see more in terms of LB blitzing but that will probably come later in the preseason.

Recievers: Williams can be a big asset. Not sure where everyone fits in, it’s a crowded spot. Also want to see Carlson targeted more than what he saw tonight.

O-line: uh oh.

FB/TE: I feel that Schmitt may be gone by the time the cut to 53 is made. Ganther brings more to the table as a hybrid for this system. Taking Ganther in addition to our 3 other tailbacks frees Schmitt’s spot for a 4th TE.

by Woodinville_12thMan on Aug 14, 2010 11:11 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I know its preseason...

But did it scare anyone else that, after the snap, Whitehurst would lock on to one guy and not make any other progressions. I loved his arm but I had concerns about his ability to look off the defense and go through his reads and tonights game did nothing to alleviate that.

by SopranoHawk on Aug 14, 2010 11:21 PM PDT via mobile reply actions   1 recs

I'm glad I wasn't the only one that thought he was in stare mode quite a bit.

He did some nice things out there, but he also ran himself into a sack and threw an awful pick. I don’t know that any of my questions about him are really answered. Still lots of time left though.

by Nate Dogg on Aug 14, 2010 11:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I feel a little better about him.

His poise in the pocket was better than expected. I was thinking he’d be real skittish and throw a lot away. He seemed comfortable. He had some nice zingers and really found guys in some tight spots I don’t think Hass could do. I’d like to see him play against the number one D in the next game.

by Surf Hawk on Aug 14, 2010 11:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

The confidence and comfort was nice, and unexpected

but I don’t know how to value that when he confidently tossed the ball into double coverage as well. Also, he was doing it against the backups of a pretty terrible pass defense last year.

by Nate Dogg on Aug 14, 2010 11:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

He had a great stat line in his Hawk debut. I dug his arm strength, release, mechanics, what have you. But if you get a chance to watch the replay, watch his helmet. Its lockon, wait, throw. Nearly every play. Its hopefully an experience thing, but I was hoping against a second string defense we’d see some sort of progression read. Granted, its preseason, lack of game planning and the diminished ability of second string players might have made it unnecessary. I was just hoping to see more. Nice debut though.

by SopranoHawk on Aug 15, 2010 12:23 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

It was unnecessary, exactly.

His targets were open, and I think he knew where to go before the plays started. Perhaps this was because the Titans were running vanilla schemes, but nevertheless Charlie knew what to do and then proceeded to do it.

by djafrot on Aug 15, 2010 12:25 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think he ruined a Golden slant

The second he snapped the ball he was burning holes in Tate’s chest with his eyes….but the play wasn’t instantaneous of course. So he just stood there looking…Tate takes a few steps then he slings it. Easily knocked away.

It was pretty blatant, and I think if he actually looked down field, or anywhere other than Tate, then maybe he could have kept the edge and snuck the ball into him for a positive reception.

He also missed a couple progressions due to this where there were passable options down field…I remember seeing Butler completely open in the endzone on one.

He looked really good overall though, makes me excited. Probably a little premature, but damn I’m excited. Throwing darts out there. And then the touch on Butler’s long pass….ahhhh, so nice to see a good throw down field for once. Matty cannot do such things.

I Bleed Blue and Green

by DSAhawker on Aug 15, 2010 1:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well we knew he had some great tools.

We also knew reading defenses seemed to be a big weakness. It was good to see some poise in the pocket, and it was good to see those tools on display and well used. But burning a hole in his receivers is a big problem and won’t work against decent 1st defenses. And I’m a little worried that his “poise” was just him being kind of unaware of what was going on in the pocket.

As always, it’s only one preseason game. The next three should tell us a lot about where we stand with Whitehurst, and whether he can start reading defenses or is just a slightly improved version of the guy he was in SD.

Now with more lemon bars!

by Fear on Aug 15, 2010 3:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think he knew what was going on in the pocket.

One play that sticks out in my mind is where pressure is coming from both sides and he calmly steps forward and into the pass while the rushers end up passing right behind him.

by Hopefulmsfan on Aug 15, 2010 5:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think I would describe how I feel

as, before I didn’t know if he could even play. I didn’t know if he would be too rattled, too indecisive, such a poor read that he’d be completely doomed.

Now I know he’s not doomed by that. The next step is, can he minimize inconsistency (including sacks and INTs) enough to sustain drives, to have a competitive team. Or, he’s JP Losman now (Bills version, not the preseason game). Can play but can’t put it all together consistently, and drives were closer to “blind squirrel” than you’d like.

The next step is, can he go from Losman to Kitna. It hasn’t really changed my hope or expectations, but his performance raised the floor up for me.

by jacobstevens on Aug 16, 2010 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

That would be my guess as well.

You can see two WR’s moving into the same area on what I presume is a play designed to cross up the defenders. BMW basically runs up behind the other WR but never makes a move to break into the open space in the flat and under the corner, which is what the coverage seemed to allow. Charlie saw the coverage and threw to the space, but BMW had yet to make a break on a route.

It could be a case where Charlie simply misread the play, but it looks to me like if it was an option route for BMW his choice should have been to break to the outside. You could say that the pattern was supposed to take longer to develop and BMW was supposed to continue deep and then make a cut, but Charlie had clearly dropped as far as he was supposed to and had to throw the ball.

I’m sure John will take a closer look for us.

by djafrot on Aug 15, 2010 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

The one thing a QB should NEVER do is underthrow Mike Williams

Especially when he’s double-covered. Maybe Whitehurst threw too soon, or maybe BMW gave up on the play (or nobody was at fault, and it was just a messed-up play).

by J.L. White on Aug 15, 2010 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

To a different receiver?

Maybe I should watch that play again, because it looked like the DB beneath BMW made the pick. Maybe I’m wrong.

by J.L. White on Aug 15, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think it was the DB to the outside and behind him.

I think it was shared fault — Williams definitely didn’t make much of a break, but Whitehurst should have seen tight double coverage and gone somewhere else with the football.

by sev79 on Aug 15, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Definitely agree with that last part

That throw just shouldn’t have been made.

by J.L. White on Aug 15, 2010 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not to mention

Charile telegraphed it badly, which is why the DB was there for the easy play to begin with.

by Thomas Beekers on Aug 15, 2010 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I thought I saw progressions...

sometimes. Other times, like on his pick, he threw on his first read, and directly into double coverage. As if he was going to go that way no matter what.

He can “spin” it, as Schneider likes to say. I was impressed with his arm strength and the quickness of his release. If he audibled to Williams on that touchdown, good on him. Need to see more, particularly with the ones with him and against him, but who knows whether that’s’ going to happen?

Apart from watching individual players, in exhibition games I look for ones against ones. And on that score, we sucked. Very disappointed in what seemed to me could have been a virtual copy of our play last year. Defense swiss cheese, offense can’t execute.

by Hawkdawg on Aug 14, 2010 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hear you about ones vs ones

Felt like the Seahawks ‘cheated’ a bit by keeping our ones in longer than the Titans, or am I wrong in that assumption? However that is probably PC’s m.o. to always compete.

by Surf Hawk on Aug 14, 2010 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

More that we have less "ones" than other teams do.

Plenty of guys who will be starts this year are still fighting off other players, and thus deserved long looks in the same situations. Or are young like Okung and Earl Thomas, and need every snap they can get.

by cashless on Aug 15, 2010 12:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

He did that quite a few times, especially on his interception, and it's a cause for concern.

That said, he progressed through his reads more often than not. He did enough well to show that he could be a good quarterback in the NFL. What I loved was his ability to make pre-snap adjustments.

I think once he masters the offense, he will lower the amount of times that he stares a receiver down. If I remember right, Joe Flacco came into the league with a strong habit of staring a receiver down a lot, but since then, he’s done pretty well for himself in respects to reading defenses pre-snap and going through his progression.

Golden!

by Carl Shinyama on Aug 15, 2010 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions  

Foley looks slow as molasses off the line.

No way he’s making the team

"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM

by Nick Andron on Aug 15, 2010 12:01 AM PDT reply actions  

Red Bryant not a winner?

I thought he showed pluck.

inside of a dog it's too dark to read.

by shams on Aug 15, 2010 12:08 AM PDT reply actions  

Earl Thomas did not impress

Thomas was completely engulfed by a WR on the long screen play. He was also embarrassed on the long run by Ringer (watch the replay). Clearly his premier skills are defending the mid to deep passing game, but as a safety, he needs to make better angles and get to the ball carrier. Just his first pro game, but i was expecting more.

Also disappointing to see more of the same from Curry. He seems to be at the right spot, but just can’t make the big play.

Okung looked great and i was encouraged by Clemons performance as the Leo.

by jpd2d on Aug 15, 2010 12:10 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Which run are you talking about?

Because on one long run he successfully prevented a TD when the runner had all the advantage. If that was any other of our safeties, it was a TD.

by djafrot on Aug 15, 2010 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Those are the things that he wasn't as good at in college.

John warned us about these parts of his game.

Since I’m getting all the garbage out of the way, Thomas isn’t a particularly sound tackler, either. He doesn’t always take good angles. He doesn’t wrap particularly well. Mike Mayock said something to the effect that in the modern NFL, he would trade some run-stopping for some cover ability, but tackling matters in pass coverage too. A safety must be able to secure, because by definition he is often the last line of defense. It’s going to happen. Thomas is going to botch tackles. He’s small, he struggled with it in college and pros are bigger, stronger, faster and more evasive.

Sure enough his physicality looked bad on that screen play, and he did take a bad angle on the run. At the same time, he then adjusted his angle and his awesome speed kept that bad angle from losing them more than 5-10 yards, where another safety would have allowed 30 yards or a TD. He was an overall positive on that play, even with the bad angle, which is awesome.

He looked just ridiculous coming up and stopping the VY run after a half a yard when the DE was out of position, a play that a regular safety allows 5+ yards, he almost took Young’s head off, Young wisely slid and avoided the hit. He also looked awesome on the Pistol pick, keeping great cover over the top.

Don’t forget, he’s barely 21 years old. It’s fair to assume that his angles and physicality will take at least a small step forward, and in the next 5 years he could work on those parts of his game a lot. But he is still a special player, despite those two mistakes. Not sure why you’d expect more from him in his first preseason game, you didn’t realize we drafted a redshirt sophomore that wasn’t a perfect player?

by cashless on Aug 15, 2010 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

je

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZDUh9yboqI

Your culture is primitive; yet so funky!

by jubelthebear on Aug 15, 2010 6:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

sorry my computer went haywire

I wanted to say he’s still a rookie and he will develop. I didn’t see the screen pass, but on Ringer’s run, Thomas was fooled by that little inside step of his… ghastly fooled. He had his hips turned all the way around the wrong way, but to his credit chased him down and made the tackle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZDUh9yboqI

Your culture is primitive; yet so funky!

by jubelthebear on Aug 15, 2010 6:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

I didn't see Trufant at all practically.

That bodes well, yes?

Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...

by Cheddar28 on Aug 15, 2010 12:17 AM PDT reply actions  

Yes

Now with more lemon bars!

by Fear on Aug 15, 2010 3:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was going to make a longer post, but really only have one thing to say.

Charlie got me fucking excited. He looks great. John’s right, he looked poised in the pocket, adjusting well when pressured from outside and delivering tough passes on the money to targets all over the field. Great audible (thought he said “316” on replay). Incredible zip and accuracy… that little arrow to Forsett was gorgeous.

I realize that this was against backups, but goddamn if it wasn’t fun to watch. Matt looked old and withered in comparison. What with the right side of the OL looking shaky as it is, we need someone behind center who can move around and deliver on the run. Based on what I saw tonight, The Unicorn / Barry Gibb / Aragorn looks like the better player.

by djafrot on Aug 15, 2010 12:23 AM PDT reply actions  

Just sayin...

Seahawks Fans Cannot Be Cured

by TheLaird on Aug 15, 2010 2:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

Does that make Forsett Frodo?

The ring-bearer/ball-carrier parallels are striking.

by J.L. White on Aug 15, 2010 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

IIRC...

Frodo was taller for a Hobbit. Still a Hobbit though.

Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...

by Cheddar28 on Aug 15, 2010 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Watching Whitehurtst, I was most pleasantly surprised.

Was worried maybe he was bad and I was just missing something but glad to see I was worried for nothing.

by Hopefulmsfan on Aug 15, 2010 1:13 AM PDT reply actions  

I really only paid attention to him for one series.

But in that series I saw him block towards the left sideline for a run that ran towards the line and kicked it back in for a gain and on the next play he moved over for a cut block in the middle of the o-line and that also resulted in a decent gain. It will be interesting to read more detailed analysis later though.

by Hopefulmsfan on Aug 15, 2010 5:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

Lots of physical ability

Did struggle against the faster, athletic ends, but by and large prevented anything from happening. Both encouraging and concerning at the same time.

Golden!

by Carl Shinyama on Aug 15, 2010 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

haha
At one point, a sideline official gave a sort of forearm shiver to push Carroll back off the field.

by EzPz on Aug 15, 2010 1:42 AM PDT reply actions  

Yeeeeah

saw that. Thought it was quite humorous.

Field Gulls: my anti-PFT.

by PRIDEin253 on Aug 15, 2010 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I vote for Butler

For finally getting a QB who could pass him the ball down field…

I was excited to see that after being used for simply a decoy so many times last year

I Bleed Blue and Green

by DSAhawker on Aug 15, 2010 1:51 AM PDT reply actions  

Was at the game; a few observations

Walter Thurmond wasn’t very good at covering people in his zone when playing zone defense, he didn’t move to cover his guy when they clearly ran and sat down in his zone

Jeff Byers had a really nice pull block in the 4th quarter (granted it was against th 3rd string D)

Concerned about the lack of any pressure by our first string defensive line

Kelly Jennings still has the body mass of a pencil

Even though it was pre-season, it was GREAT to have football again

Stats are not a euphemism for tits

by Trenchtown on Aug 15, 2010 2:04 AM PDT reply actions  

The second Titan series

we had our defensive starters against their offensive starters (minus VY). That’s when Bryant and Vickerson were getting push and Clemons got the sack. So it’s not a complete mess.

Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...

by Cheddar28 on Aug 15, 2010 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

VY was intercepted by Pistol on the second series.

Hard to do from the sidelines

The future is looking better

by eohawkfan on Aug 15, 2010 11:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Doh!

I meant the 3rd series I think.

Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...

by Cheddar28 on Aug 16, 2010 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Oh and one final thought before going to bed

It is not acceptable (IMO) to be doing the wave while a player is being carted off the field for an injury. I hope it was just a stadium full of excited fans not really paying attention to what was going on but it really rubbed me the wrong way

Stats are not a euphemism for tits

by Trenchtown on Aug 15, 2010 2:21 AM PDT reply actions  

I was there. That wave was in the works long before that, it just happened to pick up steam with the break in action.

I was disappointed. The wave should strictly be used at baseball games. Some guys were running around trying to get everyone involved and seemed pissed that people weren’t more jacked to do the effing wave.

by Big E-Z on Aug 15, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

How does a wave work at a baseball game

When everyone is on their phones waiting for the 8th to start?

by Moresoftness on Aug 15, 2010 10:37 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

The wave stopped immediately...

As soon as the player was being removed and everyone began applauding for the player. From where I was I wasn’t even aware an injury had occurred for quite awhile.

by Moresoftness on Aug 15, 2010 10:35 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

I watched the game last night on a jittery stopping LQ stream

So I didn’t get to see the level of detail that would help me really know where we are at. But I have three things that I am so excited about that I was pissed I couldn’t see it on my big screen at home.
A QB with a cannon
Pass rush
No injuries

by stufr on Aug 15, 2010 6:11 AM PDT reply actions  

a t d h e?

cause there’s a better site and I’ll message it to you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZDUh9yboqI

Your culture is primitive; yet so funky!

by jubelthebear on Aug 15, 2010 6:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

yep

streams kept getting shut down or it would be stop action.

by stufr on Aug 15, 2010 7:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

I had the same issue

No DirecTv allowed here where I’m at and was doing the same thing to me… shuddering, blanking, dropped streams….Just total suckage. Any help at all would be most appreciated………

by ChucklehutCynic on Aug 15, 2010 7:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

What I did see

Was a surprising group of QB’s (one good one not so much) and what 2!!!! TWO big plays!?

Not that is was against their best competition but at this point I’ll take what I can get for now because we needed big plays, needed that template set no matter how early (long TD good on ya Whitey and stretch, and Little bigmans pick…)

YA!

More please

by ChucklehutCynic on Aug 15, 2010 7:44 AM PDT reply actions  

Charlie had four 20+ yard passes

"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM

by Nick Andron on Aug 15, 2010 8:36 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

No

"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM

by Nick Andron on Aug 15, 2010 8:35 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

The two guys I saw causing disruption

against the starters were the guys Carroll brought in – Vickerson and Clemons.

God I hope vickerson keeps it up – he was in tennessee’s backfield a lot!

"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM

by Nick Andron on Aug 15, 2010 8:37 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Hush.

I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul - Invictus

by EequalsMc2 on Aug 15, 2010 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Rewatching the game. Specifically, I am rewatching the Titans first TD

Curry complete whiffs on the 3rd and goal play. His tackling form is horrific. I am not officially concerned that Curry is broken or never was that good.

It is what it is...

by kidder95 on Aug 15, 2010 9:05 AM PDT reply actions  

He locked onto the FB and blew him up.

Unfortunately, CJ2K ran right by the collision for the easy score. Next time Aaron, pulverize the ball carrier mmmkay?

All The Way, AIRBORNE!!!

by Airborne Hawk Guy on Aug 15, 2010 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

right click

view image

for a bigger view. curry is definitely blowing up the FB, its too bad thomas is stuck behind (what looks like) a TE and LT…

by NViera on Aug 15, 2010 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

Red Bryant impressed me.

Looking at the replay so far, I thought he was very active. His length and quickness gets him into a lot of plays. He plays the DT spot in situations, too, though I can’t confidently describe those results. More tape needed…

Red Bryant: surprise us!

by Misfit74 on Aug 15, 2010 9:47 AM PDT reply actions  

Who is our backup RT?

Because I think Locklear is too broken to be a competent offensive lineman.

Nick Garcia is the Brian Russell of MLS but 10 times worse.

by SSreporters on Aug 15, 2010 10:43 AM PDT reply actions  

Ray Willis!

I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul - Invictus

by EequalsMc2 on Aug 15, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not exactly sure

But according to the Official Seahawks Depth Chart, it is Jacob Phillips (who?). It also has Ray Willis listed at #1 and Sean Locklear at #3…..so I guess this list was made AFTER last night’s game!

by J.L. White on Aug 15, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well I'm on the fence with Willis

But at this point unless something screwy happens I’m not sure Locklear should be starting and this could be his last year with the Seahawks.

Nick Garcia is the Brian Russell of MLS but 10 times worse.

by SSreporters on Aug 15, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Willis can run-block, but can he pass-protect?

I don’t know. I also don’t know how well he can run-block in our current ZBS.

Red Bryant: surprise us!

by Misfit74 on Aug 15, 2010 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've seen great blocks from Willis on screen plays and running plays

But no he’s not great at pass-protecting and I remember a few occasions where he played the Mike Wahle role of getting penalized.

Nick Garcia is the Brian Russell of MLS but 10 times worse.

by SSreporters on Aug 15, 2010 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was put up just before/during the game

But Ray Willis didn’t play so that might explain Locklear starting, of that chart is accurate. I don’t get its RT listing tho

by Thomas Beekers on Aug 15, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

Anyone else watch any Niners?

Alex Smith looked somewhat shaky and their O-line really shaky, especially Davis. Michael Robison looked bad running the ball but Anthony Dixon looks like he’ll solve the depth problem caused by Coffee’s retiring. First-team D looked solid.

by Thomas Beekers on Aug 15, 2010 12:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Watching the highlights on NFL.com

On the Titans first drive, I think Curry’s man was the FB, hence why he went to take on the FB. Though, I think that once he was at the line of scrimmage, he should have kept his eyes up and stayed in the gap at the very least. This would force Chris Johnson to either run into Curry or to bounce outside behind his FB who was already taking on another defender before getting blown up by Curry.

On the Whitehurst-to-Williams TD, what I liked was how willing Forsett was being as physical as possible in his blocks. He stopped a LB who was considerably bigger than him and charging with considerable speed from proceeding further. While Forsett didn’t blow him up, and while his block proved unnecessary, given that Whitehurst had already got rid of the ball, Forsett’s recognition of a potential negative play and willingness to use his (undersized) body to stop the LB from proceeding was a sign of his maturity as a blocker. I’ll be keeping an eye on that.

Okung controlled his man at the point of engagement on that play as well.

On the 4th down pass to Butler, Okung struggled, mostly because the DE got an inside step on him, but again, prevented anything from happening. This is becoming a theme. The interior O-line did a great job on that play. The only D-lineman that threatened the play, was the guy that Okung picked up.

The play worked because of two things, Butler got separation and a step on his man via the misdirection of the play (he crossed routes with Williams – Williams was a decoy) and Whitehurst’s ability to get the ball off in a timely manner. Whitehurst showed his ability to make reads and go through his progressions on this play. I saw him read his receivers on the right before finding Butler. He has the makings of a fine QB.

On Whitehurst’s second TD, this was simply a matter of him recognizing the defense and knowing pre-snap who was going to be open. All he had to do was execute it. He did not need to go through a progession, being that he knew his that it was a quick pass play. It looked as if Whitehurst had two options based on who was going to be open: The Te or the RB. The play worked because Forsett drew out the LB with his route outside, leaving all that space for Anthony McCoy. Whitehurst, knowing this would be the result, simply fired the ball to McCoy.

And… YAY for Chancellor’s interception!!

Golden!

by Carl Shinyama on Aug 15, 2010 12:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Good analysis.

I saw many of the same things. The next game should give the coaches and fans a better idea of where all three QB’s are going in camp (and in preseason). Hass looked so-so, but he only got a few snaps against some first team guys, but had little time to get any rhythm. Whitehurst looked good, and you have to like that he showed something (even against middle of the road talent). Losman may play himself off the team if he plays another game like that (or has some bad camp days).

The running game still needs some help. The O-line is still so-so until they get some time together. The WR and TE’s looked good, so the offense has some good and bad.

The D-line looked ok at best. They need some consistent pressure or teams will carve them up (like the Titans O did). The DB’s looked good playing a vanilla game, and the Lb’s played well without Lofa and Hill.

Alot to do before the start of the season.

by JustinWF on Aug 16, 2010 11:13 AM PDT reply actions  

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