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2007 draft class, how did we do?

It's said it takes three years to find out how the draft class succeeds, although this years seems to be very nice..

So, what was at 2007?

2 55 Josh Wilson DB 03/11/1985 Maryland
3 85 Brandon Mebane DT 01/15/1985 California
4 120 Baraka Atkins DE 08/28/1984 Miami
4 124 Mansfield Wrotto OG 10/12/1984 Georgia Tech
5 161 Will Herring LB 08/28/1983 Auburn
6 197 Courtney Taylor WR 04/07/1984 Auburn
6 210 Jordan Kent WR 07/24/1984 Oregon
7 232 Steve Vallos OT 12/28/1983 Wake Forest

 

and the 1st was traded for Branch.. (he's done quite ok, although Pats traded the pick further for 49ers for 4th rounder 2007, which was used to get Randy Moss, and 10th overall 2008, where they picked Jerod Mayo. SF picked LT Joe Staley)

Counting Branch in, there are:

3 starters (assuming Pistol starts), Mebane maybe even pro bowl caliber

3 backups

2 in other teams: Atkins now a Bronco, though he did have 6 sacks in his first season, more than any1 for us last year and Kent at Rams

1 out of the league

Not that bad, after all.

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Yeah, looks like he has 2 career sacks.

Maybe in his first preseason? Although I don’t ever remember him catching fire in the preseason.

by Mind of no mind on Aug 19, 2010 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

not sure of preseason stats

I just confused stat line numbers, they were not on straight line with the headers.

by FinnHawk on Aug 19, 2010 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Success: Wilson, ME! BANE!

Decent-to-good depth: Herring, Wrotto

Bad: Vallos

Out of the NFL: Taylor, Kent

I thought we did quite well.

Nick Garcia is the Brian Russell of MLS but 10 times worse.

by SSreporters on Aug 19, 2010 12:43 PM PDT reply actions  

I certainly wouldn't consider Vallos a bad pick at all.

He’s not very good, but he’s serviceable depth that can back up almost any position in a pinch. Pretty good for a seventh round pick.

by djafrot on Aug 19, 2010 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd say Herring is a very successful 5th rounder.

He has starting experience and is a value. And considering the spot he was taken in, Vallos has proved to be a good pick as well. He’s at least been partly serviceable and has been called on to start.

by Woodinville_12thMan on Aug 19, 2010 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Very well considering the 1st really was lost

Just well if you have to include Branch in as the first. He has overall disappointed. Mostly because of injury, but still disappointing.

by stufr on Aug 20, 2010 4:27 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm happier with Branch

than with Jennings or Jackson. I sooo hope Curry pans out…

Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...

by Cheddar28 on Aug 20, 2010 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes

But if you consider just this draft and count the actual production of Branch, it kinda takes the shine off of it.

by stufr on Aug 21, 2010 4:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

Branch was a bust for Seattle lets just be honest.

Never earned that 1st round value.

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by RolloTomasi on Aug 25, 2010 7:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

Sigh.

This? Again?

Thank you, Walter Jones.
Thank you, Ken Griffey Jr.

by thebyron on Aug 25, 2010 8:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

It goes back to the wonderful discussion of how do you judge a bust, by the process or the result

It was a great process since we definitely got 1st round talent for our first round pick. Results wise though it was a bust. You can’t blame the FO or the process for it being a bust, so it was a good process, but results wise it was.

by stufr on Aug 26, 2010 4:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

the result trumps all

Branch was a bust.

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by RolloTomasi on Aug 26, 2010 2:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

The can of Sprite was delicious.

Thank you, Walter Jones.
Thank you, Ken Griffey Jr.

by thebyron on Aug 26, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

How do you grade your straight and flush draws?

Hopefully not by whether you make your hand or not.

inside of a dog it's too dark to read.

by shams on Aug 26, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

cards? really?

it’s not even close to the same thing.

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by RolloTomasi on Aug 26, 2010 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not a perfect comparison, but it's a serviceable analog.

Anyway made my point with more pith.

inside of a dog it's too dark to read.

by shams on Aug 26, 2010 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Make that

thebyron made my point.

inside of a dog it's too dark to read.

by shams on Aug 26, 2010 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sprite?

I don’t get it?

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by RolloTomasi on Aug 27, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's a line from, I think, Dave Henderson

If memory serves: you can trade Ichiro for a can of sprite, but even if Ichiro breaks his femur and that sprite tastes really good, that doesn’t mean it was a good trade.

inside of a dog it's too dark to read.

by shams on Aug 27, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

WR stats don't lie,

2006: 53 rec. 725 yards 4 TD
2007: 49 rec 661 yards 4 TD
2008: 30 rec 412 yards 4 TD
2009: 45 rec 437 yards 2 TD

c’mon that’s not 1st round material….
Bust

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by RolloTomasi on Aug 27, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually it is.

Branch has exceeded what should be expected of receiver drafted with the pick the Hawks traded.

What do you mean when you say bust? Jamarcus Russell, Jarvis Moss and Craig Davis are busts. Branch has been a decent player.

by Nate Dogg on Aug 27, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I read that article

but I don’t agree.

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by RolloTomasi on Aug 27, 2010 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Think about it...

Why would we need to use that pick on a WR?
It’s a draft pick, we could have used it on an O-Lineman, a DE, anything.

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by RolloTomasi on Sep 1, 2010 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

Then you're not really comparing him to anything but "what might have been."

That makes your judgement of “bust” purely arbitrary and indefensible.

Thank you, Walter Jones.
Thank you, Ken Griffey Jr.

by thebyron on Sep 1, 2010 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

dosen't mean it's not true...

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by RolloTomasi on Sep 1, 2010 9:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually

“Purely arbitrary and indefensible” would mean, quite literally, “not true”.

The whole thing really comes down to whether you believe someone is a bust when he’s not a moderate success. Branch did ok. Hence he’s not a bust. The bust label really is pulled out right quick.

by Thomas Beekers on Sep 2, 2010 5:19 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not entirely accurate, Vasilii.

A statement can be arbitrary and indefensible and still be true. “There are two moons of Saturn that humans have not yet discovered” is a possible example. I don’t know whether it’s true or not, but it certainly could be. The question is whether a statement can be arbitrary and indefensible yet true and known to be true by the person making it.

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by thebyron on Sep 2, 2010 6:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

bust

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by RolloTomasi on Sep 2, 2010 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

It means you can't back it up.

Arbitrary and indefensible makes for weak arguments and uninteresting discussion.

Good: “Hasselbeck is declining; his ANY/A last year was his lowest since 2001 (excepting his vastly shortened 2008 season) and his INT total and Y/C were career worsts.”

Bad: “OMG Hasselbeck totally sucks, dude is done!”

Thank you, Walter Jones.
Thank you, Ken Griffey Jr.

by thebyron on Sep 2, 2010 6:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Average, huh?

Would that be average including busts? The average career yardage for the 1st WR taken is about 580 according to that chart. Would you then argue a WR taken in the top-10 is not a bust if he averages 580 yards over his career?

Reggie Williams produced 460 yards per year for the Jacks, he was the 3rd WR drafted. By JM’s logic in that article, he is not a bust.

The argument is not that well-rounded. I wouldn’t use it as a crux to make Branch out as a non-bust. I wouldn’t call him a bust simply because he produced when he played, but the usage of averages in this argument is really, REALLY weak.

by Thomas Beekers on Aug 31, 2010 12:35 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

It's actually a touch over 600 yards and thats per year, with the average first receiver taken averaging 5.7 years starting.

And yes, by the numbers laid out by Brian Burke, not John, Reggie was not a bust. He was a pretty perfect example of Burke’s numbers actually, coming out at pretty much exactly average for where he was taken.

Which shouldn’t be a huge surprise because while Reggie wasn’t what the Jags were hoping for he wasn’t terrible either. People confuse “not as good as I thought he might be” for “BUST” way too much.

by Nate Dogg on Aug 31, 2010 9:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pistol and Mebane alone make that a worthy draft.

Not bad for not having a 1st-rounder.

Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?

by Benne on Aug 20, 2010 1:49 PM PDT reply actions  

I hated this draft more than any draft ever.

I Felt we needed a Guard or a tight end. We had lost Hutchinson in 2006 and Alexander was falling apart. We ended up getting a wide receiver and a 180lb CB. Wilson has proven to be quality player but I hated the pick at the time and watched # 26 chasing a wide out more than twice into the end zone the next year.
 In retrospect Branch, Wilson, Mebane, Wrotto, Herring and Vallos are all still contributors on this team and I saw Atkins make a sack for someone in a preseason game this weekend. So all in all no standout home runs but a bunch of football players who are still playing. The 7th rnd pick Steve Vallos may be our starting left tackle early season.

yea dude

by dirtyktm on Aug 23, 2010 1:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Mebane

He should be considered a “standout homerun.” Picked in the third and one of the best young DTs in the league. I haven’t gone back and done the homework, but I bet Brandon is better than quite a few DTs taken before him in that draft.

by jeager on Aug 23, 2010 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

NO!!!
Steve Vallos may be our starting left tackle early season.

You shut your filthy mouth! Okung will be fine and the Hawks are goin’ all the way
19-0!!!!!!!

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by RolloTomasi on Aug 25, 2010 7:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

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