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Player Sketches from Seahawks-Titans: Max Unger

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Max Unger is approaching structural failure. Rather, the Seahawks offensive line is approaching structural failure because one of its main supports, and one of only five, is consistently and totally stressed to his strength limit.

Unger lost ground on his first pass block. Three plays later, Jason Jones drove him into Julius Jones, shed and tackled Jones for no gain. In the second play of the next series, he was driven back again and lost his man. Jones was stopped after three on second and 17.

Unger struggled through three quarters and against mostly backups. Chris Spencer teams with Ben Hamilton to double the nose or one-tech tackle on most snaps. That leaves Unger alone to contain, drive back even, the three-tech or under tackle. One could argue that  he is assigned a more difficult responsibility than the one performed by Spencer or Hamilton. That established, he is failing at an alarming rate. He moves well and blocks well in space. He can contain many types of pass rush moves, but Unger is regularly beat back and shed against a simple bull rush.

Competition will only get better. Unger needs to step up and soon.

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Unger is the one player on our roster who has me worried for this season.

At this point, he looks the least capable of any of the 22 starters.

by Woodinville_12thMan on Aug 20, 2010 1:30 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

I'm worried about Clemons/pass rush,

but not as worried as some. I think that Unger’s performance directly marginalizes the play of the QB, and from all we’ve seen Unger has been pretty atrocious.

by Woodinville_12thMan on Aug 20, 2010 10:39 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Is it possible to switch Unger and Hamilton's responsibilities?

(Not positions on the line)

"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM

by Nick Andron on Aug 20, 2010 1:37 PM PDT reply actions  

As far as I know, the 3-tech usually lines up on the strong side

That’s to say, on the offensive right side. That pretty much dictates the LG has to take on the nose and the RG the under.

by Thomas Beekers on Aug 20, 2010 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

So what about switching Spencer and Unger?

Unger and Hammy aren’t big guys, but the two of them should be able to handle a NT.

"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM

by Nick Andron on Aug 20, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wrotto right?

Isn’t Mansfield the opposite of Unger? All strength?

by Moresoftness on Aug 20, 2010 1:52 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Manger Ungrotto.

Sounds like a Star Wars bounty hunter.

IG88
Bossk
Boba Fett
Manger Ungrotto

by djafrot on Aug 20, 2010 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Well done.

He’d fit in well.

And Boba Fett was always my favorite Star Wars character. Such a badass.

"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM

by Nick Andron on Aug 20, 2010 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Doesn't he pretty much have only one line?

“He’s no good to me dead…” Was always a fan of the Slave 1 as well.

Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...

by Cheddar28 on Aug 20, 2010 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Did IG88 ever make it into the movies?

I can’t remember.

"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM

by Nick Andron on Aug 20, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think he had a Cameo as Vader is giving his

pep talk on the bridge of the Executor.

Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...

by Cheddar28 on Aug 20, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe.

But he actually lives after that so it’s all good.

Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...

by Cheddar28 on Aug 20, 2010 11:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Pitts

and he can’t get healthy fast enough

"Football players are temperamental. That's 90 percent temper and 10 percent mental." - Doug Plank

by Stevo's on Aug 20, 2010 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

I was wondering about Pitts too.

Maybe move Unger to back-up LG and maybe take over for Ham-Fighter later in the season.

by Hawkhammer19 on Aug 20, 2010 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ham-Fighter is too important for Okung/ZBS, tho I guess it's feasible

I’d certainly hate to start Hamilton and Pitts. If we have to give up on Unger we’d basically have only Spencer and Okung as long-term answers of any kind on the line.

by Thomas Beekers on Aug 20, 2010 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Gogo gadget Super-Drafting Machine!

Wherein a 1st, 2nd, 4th, and 5th rounder from the upcoming year are manipulated in such a way as to provide us with two more young offensive linemen with a decent floor and high ceiling! Ala Davis/Iupati but less costly.

Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...

by Cheddar28 on Aug 20, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

How about Ray Willis

at guard? would that be feasible?

and i wouldn’t mind seeing wrotto on the field, besides his awesome name, he has a really mean mean mug

by Lock_down on Aug 20, 2010 2:36 PM PDT reply actions  

I've always had the feeling Unger was a reach in the second round

It was a very unpopular thing to say back in his rookie season, but I never saw much special about Unger on film at Oregon except for upper body strength and nasty attitude. He threw college D linemen around with his arms. That doesn’t work In the NFL.

It always seemed to me that Tim Ruskell reached for Max Unger while trying to make up for his Hutchinson fiasco. He wanted a strong nasty OG to give to us fans. Unger perhaps reminds me just a little of Hutch from the waist up, but his lower body never really looked like an NFL guard. He doesn’t have a solid base and gets unbalanced too easily. Wrotto or Willis might be a better pick to start at ROG, or hopefully Pitts if his knee ever recovers.

"Football players are temperamental. That's 90 percent temper and 10 percent mental." - Doug Plank

by Stevo's on Aug 20, 2010 2:51 PM PDT reply actions  

He picked Unger because he was a polished technician that was good at football.

Not because he was overly athletic, big or strong. Typical Ruskell pick.

"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM

by Nick Andron on Aug 20, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

ALWAYS COMPETE

  Seems to me that we have other ‘bodies’ for that position. I know that Pitts won’t be starting the season with us (most likely), but, what about Gibson, Vallos, Wrotto, Byers, and others?
  Willis is scheduled for surgery I believe. Unger has the same problem at Center, and that is why Spencer plays there, as Unger got pushed back a LOT. So, ALWAYS COMPETE sounds pretty reasonable to me.
  Are they going to put Willis and Pitts on the IR or PUP? And what exactly is the difference?

by BUSTINHEADS on Aug 20, 2010 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unger wasn't originally projected to be a OG.

He was drafted to be the C of the future in Seattle’s ZBS

Golden!

by Carl Shinyama on Aug 20, 2010 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

This

I think Ruskell planned on letting Spencer walk and having Unger play center.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Aug 20, 2010 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree that Unger

has been less than impressive thus far; that being said I hope Gibbs plays the best players and not just a guy because he was a second round pick.

by Flahawker on Aug 20, 2010 2:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Or for the sake of cohesion.

Even though there is some merit to that kind of decision.

Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...

by Cheddar28 on Aug 20, 2010 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Who sucked less at center last year: Spencer or Unger?

I remember a lot of ugly, with Spencer not being able to snap the ball and Unger getting rolled. Can Spencer not play G? He’s not listed anywhere but C…

by Mahk77 on Aug 20, 2010 10:10 PM PDT reply actions  

I seem to remember that Spencer & Unger switched positions one game

when Spencer’s thumb was banged up. Unger-center and Spencer-guard was no worse than the opposite arrangement, if my vague memories are correct.

Perhaps someone else can recall?

by Jason_D on Aug 21, 2010 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions  

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