In the sense that it’s clear the Chargers want out, not in the sense of the player being underrated.

Anyone want to wager a guess? 2nd? 3rd and a 6th?

I would not go any higher than a single 2nd round pick. Especially considering it’s likely to be in the top half of the 1st round.

John’s comments a few days ago about how people tend to put all picks from each round in a buck even though two picks in the same round can have very different values, or picks from two adjacent rounds can have very similar value, has got me thinking.

Why don’t we see more traded picks in the NFL “lottery” protected like in the NBA? There is no way I’d give a straight up 1st for Jackson, but maybe offer them the 17th through 48th pick. No matter what we’re gonna have a pick somewhere in that range in either the first or second round, but we don’t risk giving up a top 15 pick this way. You could really do this for any rounds, because sometimes there are players where a 2nd seems to valuable to give up for them, but a 3rd seems kind of cheap.

If we take a look at the players that the Seahawks have drafted in the second round recently (04 – Michael Boulware, 05 – Lofa Tatupu, 06 – Darryl Tapp, 07 – Josh Wilson, 08 – John Carlson, 09 – Max Unger, 10 – Golden Tate), I think that Vincent Jackson is quite a bit better at his position than those players are at their respective positions, save for Tatupu and, perhaps, Carlson and Tate (the jury is still out on them). Since the NFL Draft is such a crapshoot, why not?

But to have 2 missing picks, that hurts. I don’t get how Carroll and Schneider could be markedly good at the draft and yet questionable in trades and free agency, and it seems like results-based analysis on a small sample for people to speculate that they are. But if they are, maybe we should be wanting them to hang on to those picks.

It would bring a whole new meaning to a “trips” set. I like this idea. Get this deal done Schneider!

landing VJ is more than just this upcoming season – it’s a stud WR for the next 3-4 years at least, when presumably CW (or a drafted QB with an arm) will be starting

Failmode

I doubt they have a deal in place but they’re probably pretty confident they can get something done if they can come to terms with Jackson.

I would think Z, split end, but that’s presuming the roles and requisite strengths of each position are the same under Shana-Bates as under Holmgren.

That’s where he played with the Chargers, and it’s where featured receivers usually play no?

And with either of them, a 4th sounds low. Sounds high to include them with a 2nd, but that’s about where I think this is.

But do you really believe that Matt will play the entire season?

based on how most trades have gone this year (yes, I know, we can’t judge those prematurely). The upcoming year is going to be another important draft and I don’t want it gutted for the sake of older players.

He would still yield a a late 3rd round comp pick in 2011

If there is one role our team needs filled on offense it’s TJ’s. Butler: no. Branch: hell no. Big Mike – not sure. Ruvell Martin? Muwhahahahahahaha. See what I’m gettin’ at? We really have no other move-the-chains guy.

Or we can give them the 2rd round pick straight up and throw in Branch/ Butler for a 3rd

:(

That said, the smaller the contract, the better :)

The same sources said the asking price from the Chargers is a second-round draft pick, which is not believed to be an issue at this point.

At least three other teams have expressed interest in Jackson, though Seattle is the only one to get permission from the Chargers to formally negotiate with agents Neil Schwartz and Jonathan Feinsod.

I would have to believe that the reason the Seahawks are the only team to be granted permission is because they are probably the only ones willing to offer a 2nd round pick.

Not sure Flozell was better than one of their backups at his age. Maybe he retired because he wasn’t going to make the team or wasn’t going to start for whatever reason.