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Updated 53 Man Roster Projection

Craig Terrill has held a roster spot for many seasons by being good enough. With Carroll's emphasis on competition and youth, good enough may no longer be good enough.

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Lots of shakeup. This roster looked solid a few weeks ago, but some young players have asserted themselves and some older players have squandered opportunities. How Pete Carroll and John Schneider handle this roster will test their commitment to playing young players.

Offense

Quarterback

Starter: Matt Hasselbeck

Backup: Charlie Whitehurst

Running Back

Starter: Leon Washington

Rotation: Justin Forsett

Rotation: Julius Jones

Fullback

Starter: Quinton Ganther

Backup: Owen Schmitt

Wide Receiver 1

Starter: Mike Williams

Backup: Ben Obomanu

Wide Receiver 2

Starter: T.J. Houshmandzadeh

Backup: Golden Tate

Slot Receiver

Starter: Deion Branch

Backup: Deon Butler

Receiving Tight End

Starter: John Carlson

Backup: Cameron Morrah

Blocking Tight End

Starter: Chris Baker

Backup: Anthony McCoy

Left Tackle

Starter: Russell Okung

Backup: Mansfield Wrotto

Left Guard

Starter: Ben Hamilton

Backup: Mike Gibson

Center

Starter: Chris Spencer

Right Guard

Starter: Max Unger

Right Tackle

Starter: Sean Locklear

Backup: Ray Willis

Defense

Star-divide

Leo

Starter: Chris Clemons

Backup: Dexter Davis

Backup: Nick Reed

Under tackle

Starter: Brandon Mebane

Backup: Quinn Pitcock

Backup: Kentwan Balmer

Over tackle

Starter: Colin Cole

Backup: Kevin Vickerson

Strongside end

Starter: Red Bryant

Backup: E.J. Wilson

Strongside Linebacker

Starter: Aaron Curry

Middle Linebacker

Starter: Lofa Tatupu

Weakside Linebacker

Starter: David Hawthorne

Backup: Tyjuan Hagler

Backup: Matt McCoy

Left Cornerback

Starter: Marcus Trufant

Backup: Walter Thurmond

Right Cornerback

Starter: Kelly Jennings

Nickelback

Starter: Josh Wilson

Backup: Roy Lewis

Backup: Cord Parks

Strong Safety

Starter: Lawyer Milloy

Backup: Kam Chancellor

Free Safety

Starter: Earl Thomas

Backup: Jamar Adams

Special Teams

Kicker: Olindo Mare

Punter: Jon Ryan

Long snapper: Clint Gresham

Other

Suspended: Leroy Hill

Bubble players: Craig Terrill, Chester Pitts, Jordan Babineaux, Steve Vallos, Will Herring, J.P. Losman, Brandon Jones, Ruvell Martin

Suspended?: Kevin Ellison

Practice Squad

Offensive Tackle: Jacob Phillips

Center: Jeff Byers

Defensive Tackle: Amon Gordon

Strongside End: Rob Rose

Tight End: Nick Tow-Arnett

Note: I expect Seattle to add talent cut from other teams to fill out their practice squad. That is, if they keep youth on the roster. Otherwise, you can shift some players to the practice squad like Cord Park and E.J. Wilson and replace them with Jordan Babineaux and Craig Terrill.

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Seems plausible.

I noticed Sando has us keeping 3 QB’s. Considering we haven’t seen Losman play for a while, I don’t really see that happening. I agree with you on the 2 QB idea; Losman isn’t any better than anyone else we could pick up as a backup off of waivers if Matt gets hurt. Why waste the roster spot? We could probably pick Losman back up in week 6 when it happens…I mean IF it happens, IF!

I think he also had us keeping Pitts. I like seeing how different writers determine their team-projections, and the players who make those projections.

I am really interested in who we can pick up from some of the deeper teams when they drop down to 53 man rosters.

I’m glad you got a new computer. There’s a new spring in your typing! I can tell.

by Chirp on Aug 30, 2010 2:05 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Keeping only two QBs is risky

That isn’t to say I think we should keep Losman, because we shouldn’t. But being where we’re at, having a 3rd QB might be a good idea.

The combination of a sketchy (and moderately injured) offensive line and an aging, injury-prone starting quarterback just kinda freaks me out.

But if it were up to me, it’d be two QBs. The search would be on like Donkey Kong if Matt went down, however.

"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM

by Nick Andron on Aug 30, 2010 2:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Its really rare to see the 3rd QB come into a game.

At that point we’re expecting to lose the game anyway so why waste the roster spot. Losman can be picked up almost anytime if someone goes down.

by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 30, 2010 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's not really why teams keep three QBs, though.

My theory is:

1. Starting caliber QB – franchise guy that wins and stuff
2. Capable backup – likely has some experience; able to step in and win if need be
3. Developmental guy – guy you hope to be #1 in a few years

In our case, Whitehurst is both #2 and #3.

My only deal is that our o-line hasn’t looked good at moments, and I only worry that if it comes down to Whitehurst, and he’s starting games with Matt out hurt … what happens when Whitehurst tweaks an ankle and needs to go out for a few series?

Granted I don’t think it’ll get that far – I see us picked up another QB if Matt goes down. But still.

"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM

by Nick Andron on Aug 30, 2010 2:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

If Hass went down and we immediately didn't pick up another QB

Well…. honestly, it’s not even worth talking about since there’s a 0% chance that we would go into a game with Whitehurst as our only QB.

If Hasselbeck and Whitehurst both go down in the same game, then, unless things have changed from previous years, Branch would be our emergency QB.

by chrees on Aug 30, 2010 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

3rd string as developmental guy

That’s they way I’ve long thought of that roster spot as well. But I wonder how often third stringers actually go on to be productive starters. I think Hass was third string for a time at GB. I’m sure there are other examples. But given the value of each roster spot, it’s a lot of resources to put into a developmental person who won’t see the field this year and may have very little chance of ever being a productive player.

I know you’re not arguing that it’s right or applicable for this team right now. I’m just musing about the concept in general.

by jeager on Aug 30, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

That's an interesting statistic to research.

Average time at depth chart position (3rd or 2nd) before attaining “starter” status (and keeping it).

"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM

by Nick Andron on Aug 30, 2010 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Perhaps Losman would move on to Arizona and start...

Seems pretty sketchy at QB in the desert.

Red Bryant: surprise us!

by Misfit74 on Aug 30, 2010 11:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Probably pretty accurate..

Some quick thoughts:

For some reason, don’t want to lose Babs (botched snap alone), as he seems to be somewhat of a staple/mascot in recent memory. Is Jamar Adams really that much better?

Really hoping Anthony McCoy sticks…Rooting for the guy to be a stud.

Chancellor will be an absolute beast (at least I’m hoping).

I think Carroll has made it pretty clear that Hass and Whitehurst will be the only QB’s on the final roster.

No way Pitts doesn’t stick. He’s too valuable to pass on, given his familiarity (and success) with the system and leadership as a veteran.

Was hoping Ellison would have shown SOMETHING. Is our secondary really that good overall, or is he just not doing anything to stand out?

That is all.

Ka-Kaaa!

by JerryNice on Aug 30, 2010 2:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Really haven't seen Ellison play much at all.

That and you really can’t say that about Pitts. It’s likely the guy never plays another snap of football.

"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM

by Nick Andron on Aug 30, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I hope Babs is kept

Although we can only accept “right place, right time” so many times when it’s interspersed with blown run support.

Toronto FC - Where road games are forfeited and we STILL have no idea how to play from behind.

by SSreporters on Aug 30, 2010 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Adams can hit

At least Adams is an enforcer and he is younger with size and speed, every other play that the D get beat Babineaux just happens to be in the mix call it bad luck if you want but I have always seen him as below average. Ill take Adams just based off of potential, and physical ability. Plus if we ever play Tebow in a real game we needs Adams to lay down the law.

Fly Leon! Fly!

by BleedGreenandBlue on Aug 30, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Windows or Mac?

I assume you’re not a penguin.

inside of a dog it's too dark to read.

by shams on Aug 30, 2010 2:38 PM PDT reply actions  

I have not tried Ubuntu

I’ll have to look into that. This has Win 7, which, so far, I have no complaints about.

I love ThinkPads. Price, performance and durability, those are my selling points.

by John Morgan on Aug 30, 2010 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ubuntu is probably the best Linux distro

Once you learn the basics of how the OS works everything else is simple.

Toronto FC - Where road games are forfeited and we STILL have no idea how to play from behind.

by SSreporters on Aug 30, 2010 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

I use Linux for everything

Prefer the GNOME desktop and it’s very easy to maintain. Unix is a very sturdy system and the other great part about Linux is most distros can work very well on old computers (such as mine).

Toronto FC - Where road games are forfeited and we STILL have no idea how to play from behind.

by SSreporters on Aug 30, 2010 3:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reply fail?

Toronto FC - Where road games are forfeited and we STILL have no idea how to play from behind.

by SSreporters on Aug 30, 2010 5:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Eh

It’s clear within the stream.

by John Morgan on Aug 30, 2010 5:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

I've had a ThinkPad here at work for 2.5 years now.

And I still love it. Freaking great work computers.

For home, however, I rock the Macbook Pro. Love my mac!

"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM

by Nick Andron on Aug 30, 2010 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Craig Terrill is a hard, hard cut to make

And I applaud any NFL roster projectionist for having the stones to call for him to be cut. He’s a coach’s dream in terms of work ethic, locker room presence, and he’s a reasonably effective backup a majority of the time. I want Pitcock to make this team. Pitcock is about our future. Balmer… I could really go either way on. If he does not play against the Raiders this Thursday, I say he’s gone 6th round pick be damned. How do you keep a guy around who’s shown virtually nothing over a guy who’s busted his balls?

by Catoblepas on Aug 30, 2010 3:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Young, untapped potential.

And an investment made by this front office. That’s how you keep him.

I would be sad to see Babs go, as a utility guy and more for the fact that I have great memories of the “Big Play Babs” who seems to always show up in the clutch.

by Woodinville_12thMan on Aug 30, 2010 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

My view:

small dropoff from Terrill to Pitcock, but Pitcock has upside.

by jacobstevens on Aug 30, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Terrill is the devil you know.

Balmer is the devil you don’t.

I’d rather keep Balmer.

"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM

by Nick Andron on Aug 30, 2010 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

When faced with a choice between two evils

I always go with the one I haven’t tried before.

— Mae West

by The Ancient Mariner on Aug 30, 2010 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sando lets us know who got cut to 76:

Looks like nothing surprising yet.

The Seattle Seahawks reduced their roster to 76 players by releasing pass-rusher Ricky Foley, guard Gregg Peat, receiver Kole Heckendorf and kicker Clint Stitser.

That means Seattle must clear one roster spot by the 75-man roster deadline Tuesday.

Seattle also placed defensive lineman Jonathan Lewis on injured reserve.

by Chirp on Aug 30, 2010 3:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Some odd calls on that list.

I’m guessing:
Quinn Pitcock over Craig Terrill? No.
Matt McCoy over Will Herring? No.
Tyjuan Hagler over Leroy HIll? No.
Tyjuan Hagler over Matt McCoy? Yes.
Jamar Adams over Babineaux? Maybe
6 CBs? No.
2 QBs? No.

"Football players are temperamental. That's 90 percent temper and 10 percent mental." - Doug Plank

by Stevo's on Aug 30, 2010 4:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Maybe because everyone's so used to "Seneca and someone else"

Pro Football Weekly has a nice article suggesting that new rules protecting the QB have led more teams (though still a minority) to keep 2 QBs.

by yuniform on Aug 30, 2010 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I dunno. It makes sense to me.

Losman is not a “developmental quarterback”. If we were going to keep a third guy around he’d be much younger and probably significantly more unknown.

by djafrot on Aug 30, 2010 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Practice squad QB

We could pick up a young QB that gets cut by another team and put him on our PS. Couldn’t be much worse thaan Losman

The future is looking better

by eohawkfan on Aug 30, 2010 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

because most teams use the #3 QB to run the scout team

while the #2 QB studies the game plan along with the #1. There’s a method to it. If you only have 2 QBs, then your #2 is too busy being scout QB to practice the game plan.

But of course, its a new regime this year, so who knows.

"Football players are temperamental. That's 90 percent temper and 10 percent mental." - Doug Plank

by Stevo's on Aug 30, 2010 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love the list

I would be bummed to see Heller go, but McCoy has looked good, as has Hagler.

It is what it is...

by kidder95 on Aug 30, 2010 5:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Heller's with the Lions

I assume you mean Herring?

Toronto FC - Where road games are forfeited and we STILL have no idea how to play from behind.

by SSreporters on Aug 30, 2010 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yup.

Cut down day is always sad for me. I do love the pre-season.

It is what it is...

by kidder95 on Aug 30, 2010 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oops. Heller left a long time ago. Herring.

There. That’s better. I’m impressed with the loyalties on this site. Time to let youth sink or swim.

It is what it is...

by kidder95 on Aug 30, 2010 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just took a closer look at the highlight plays on nfl.com.

Will Herring had a very bad game. McCoy kind of had a Lofa feel, though I didn’t see him do anything, if that makes any sense.

by jacobstevens on Aug 30, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Completely off topic but every time I look at the roster, draft results or see a Titans game

I am left with the feeling that I wish Seattle would have drafted Blunt in the 7th instead of Konz- I think he would have made the roster in place of Ganther or Jones…but coulda shoulda woulda….

by sdoebele on Aug 30, 2010 9:37 PM PDT reply actions  

Blount

of course….forgot a letter

by sdoebele on Aug 30, 2010 9:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Blount Punches Puppies and likes it

Its cool to want a big Bruiser but I want our players to play with out the possibility of being assaulted if they piss him off… just sayin

Fly Leon! Fly!

by BleedGreenandBlue on Aug 31, 2010 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

D'oh!

One draft mistake :(… Okay that was sarcasm but yeah I feel ya. So many exciting running backs that we’ll probably never get on our roster.

Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...

by Cheddar28 on Aug 31, 2010 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

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