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*Moon, Menefee and Mayock

A couple weeks back I was considering writing a piece defending, praising even, Warren Moon and Daryl Johnston. Both Moon and Johnston are better this season. Better. Both are likable and bumbling and down home and incompetent enough that you kind of root for them like you root for any underdog.

Moon is making fewer "Earl Cooper" slip ups this preseason. He has sounded impatient with Curt Menefee at times, as if the trained broadcaster is the weak link. That's intolerable on Menefee's part. Moon retired into the position of broadcasting; Menefee is theoretically the best of the best. He is a professional broadcaster and among the most successful professional broadcasters in America. Moon is a Hall of Fame enshrined quarterback. He gets by on reputation alone.

I did not write that post because why bother? At best it would be halfhearted. At best it would be a forum for others to rag on Moon and Menefee and Johnston's glaring incompetence. Why bother?

In that sense, there is not much more to say on the subject. Broadcasters routinely misapply credit or blame and mess up names and prattle to the point of being a distraction, but the subject is dead because the worst are not much worse than the normal, and when the normal is terrifically bad, terrifically bad is the standard. Is Menefee much worse than Joe Buck? Is Joe Buck not paid millions for whatever it is he does? Is there reason to remind you that TV is crappy, life unfair and money changed hands among the moneyed?

Which is why I implore you to find a broadcast with Mike Mayock in the booth. He worked the Vikings half of the broadcast and I downloaded a copy just to hear him color commentate. He is taking on the same gig for Notre Dame this fall and though the Irish play curdlingly bad football, find ways to tune in. Yes, the cult of Mayock grows tiresome, and, no, everything he says isn't spun gold. Eventually, if he continues as a draft expert, he will amass a list of famous failures and be lumped in with Kiper and McShay.

It doesn't matter.

Mayock is knowledgeable, incisive and able to communicate complex ideas in simple language. I may not need the Cover 3 explained to me, but when a commentator can apply the concept of a Cover 3 onto an actual play, describe the coverage's strengths and weaknesses and different players' assignments and responsibilities in real time, it enriches the broadcast.

Aye, enriches the broadcast--isn't that what commentators are supposed to do?

Supporting Mayock is supporting intelligent analysis. Mayock is such an outlier among his peers that you can understand how people kind of flip out about him. He is to commentating what The Simpsons was to sitcoms: proof that something meaningful and intelligent can be done within a form that has grown stale, stupefying and stultifying.

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I like Johnson for the reasons you list, and Mayock for the same over again...

But my favorite is John Lynch. Yes, he still has many of the shortcomings any other commentator does, but he is a hybrid of Mayock & Johnson to me. Former player, comfort food-esque commentary, but knowledgable and has not yet had enough of the Broadcasting Kool-Aid to deactivate his ability to say “Are you kidding me? That was horrible coverage.” or “Whew! I love seeing hits like that, let’s watch this again.”

by DJ C-Raig on Aug 31, 2010 2:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Awesome ending analogy.

But I’m a Homer (Matt Groening went to school in the Seattle area).

I really enjoyed listening to Mayock for the actual draft coverage. Didn’t realize that was him on the Vikings broadcast but man it was refreshing re-watching the game that way after hours and hours of Menefee’s mis-speaks, redundancies, and awkward pauses.

Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...

by Cheddar28 on Aug 31, 2010 2:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Menefee is one of the worst play-by-play guys I've ever heard

Example #1 (3:00 in): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXBlcEQSWqY

As far as announcers I know week 1 we’re getting Sam Rosen and Tim “Matthew Hasselbeck” Ryan and for week 3 on CBS it’s Ian Eagle and Dan Fouts.

I just hope we avoid Stockton and Mora. Billick as well.

Toronto FC - Where road games are forfeited and we STILL have no idea how to play from behind.

by SSreporters on Aug 31, 2010 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Within the context of John's point that even the normal is terrifically bad,

Tim Ryan is one of the best color guys IMO. Haven’t heard him on a Seahawk game in at least 2 years, I’m sure, and I don’t know if he’s always as good as he’s come across to me the 4 or 5 times I’ve heard him, but relatively speaking he’s pretty good.

by jacobstevens on Aug 31, 2010 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

He didn't do any Seahawks game last year

According to historical records he last did a game in 2008 (Dolphins + Brian Russell 21 Seahawks 19).

Toronto FC - Where road games are forfeited and we STILL have no idea how to play from behind.

by SSreporters on Aug 31, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

Billick is the worst. He's that horrible combination of high horsed and ignorant.

He talks to the audience like they’re a child while calling Karlos Dansby “Karl Dansburry”. I wasn’t going to complain about broadcasters because like John said, why bother, but oh my god Billick is SO BAD.

by Nate Dogg on Aug 31, 2010 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sugar huddle.

Kurt Leinart. Josh Grant. Verbiage.

Toronto FC - Where road games are forfeited and we STILL have no idea how to play from behind.

by SSreporters on Aug 31, 2010 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

The phrase "sugger huddle" still makes no sense to me

What is this supposed to mean? Did he use terms like this when coaching? How the hell did he win a Super Bowl?

Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?

by Benne on Sep 1, 2010 7:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I honestly don't pay much attention to the quality of the announcers.

But recently, watching a bunch of Moon has been, well, painful.

WHY do networks insist that we listen to guys that might know football but can’t talk properly? There have to be a zillion broadcasting grads out there that can be less grating than half the people commenting on NFL games.

by djafrot on Aug 31, 2010 2:53 PM PDT reply actions  

Mayock?

Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me?

Go 'Hawks.

by JimAK on Aug 31, 2010 3:45 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm not sure who it was,

But whoever was broadcasting the raiders game the other night was the worst i’ve ever heard. His voice was absolutley killing me. Its the first time i’ve ever muted a game specifically because of the broadcast team.

by TS6 on Aug 31, 2010 3:59 PM PDT reply actions  

The absolute worst combo has to be Joe Buck and Troy Aikman

I think they must have a disease that prevents them from giving fair commentary. They are always so obviously favoring one team over the other that you can’t even watch. We mute the TV and listen on the radio when those guys are in the booth.

My favorite has to be Jon Gruden (or Jahn Grood’n as he would pronounce it). His accent is tolerable and he watches and comments on games like a coach in a film room (“Ya can’t be doin’ that son. If ya go for the big hit instead of the form tackle on a guy like that you’re just gonna bounce off. Wrap ’im up and take ’im down!”) . He did a series right before the draft with Clausen, Tebow, and Bradford that was absolute gold.

Another of my favorites is Tony Siragusa, even if ALL of his sentences end with the phrase “down here guys”. For example, “It’s pretty cold on the field down here guys.” Or “I think I’m gonna need another hot dog down here guys.”

by Jackrabbit5683 on Aug 31, 2010 6:42 PM PDT reply actions  

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