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Around SBN: 2011 In Extreme Home Runs

Are you sure you don't mean Kelly Jennings, Mr Schefter?
Please mean Kelly Jennings.
The mind boggles.

EDIT: Seahawks have indeed confirmed the move. Word is it's a 5th rounder that can become a 4th rounder. If anyone can make any sense of this incineration of value then feel free to help us out, I can't make heads or tails from it.

It does look like the team likes Walter Thurmond (and Roy Lewis, presumably), and that's fine. Pete, you inherited this roster and we get that not all the players are off your choice. What I don't get is:
a) unlike Tapp and Jackson, there's nothing wrong with Josh Wilson playing in this defensive system, he fits it fine.
b) if you have to get rid of players, can you really, honestly do no better than this piddling return from a team desperate for cornerbacks? Ozzie Newsome expects Wilson to start W1. A starter for a 4/5th rounder? On what planet is that a reasonable trade?

EDIT: Pete Carroll and John Schneider held a press conference to explain the trade but offered no real explanation. From Doug Farrar's twitter:
Press conf. with Pete Carroll and John Schneider just wrapped up -- they discussed the Josh Wilson trade. Carroll said that the play of rookie Walter Thurmond was a deciding factor -- they're confident enough in their depth guys & Kelly Jennings. But Thurmond was the primary reason. They love his quickness, his ability to man up into contact and his range.
Trade was also affected by Trufant's excellent play this preseason. Slightly less of a need to keep a higher depth chart on roster now. Re: the value, Schneider brought up that Randy Moss was traded for a fourth -- "that's what the market was."

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What?

Why in the world would we do that?

by Cannonater on Aug 31, 2010 3:57 PM PDT reply actions  

NOOOOOOOOOOOO!

This can’t be true….WHAT?!?!?

Ka-Kaaa!

by JerryNice on Aug 31, 2010 3:58 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm pissed.

I’m very, very pissed.

by biju on Aug 31, 2010 3:59 PM PDT reply actions  

This can't be true

Please say it isn’t true.

[DELETED ZOMG NO POLITICS]

by bluemax on Aug 31, 2010 3:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Boooooooooo!!!!

Bullet! Nooooooooooooo!!!

Fly Leon! Fly!

by BleedGreenandBlue on Aug 31, 2010 4:00 PM PDT reply actions  

all that goodwill was building up fast

didn’t take long to lose it.

From The Hawks Nest

by Hancock.Brett on Aug 31, 2010 4:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Foley to the Jets?

Shefter also says that Foley was picked up by the Jets on Waivers

Fly Leon! Fly!

by BleedGreenandBlue on Aug 31, 2010 4:02 PM PDT reply actions  

That would be correct

But Foley sucked and was cut because of it. Good for him that he landed elsewhere, but we’re currently in full GNN mode.

by Thomas Beekers on Aug 31, 2010 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Its still shocking that another NFL team is giving him a shot, nothing against Foley but he didnt show any talent for us during games.

Fly Leon! Fly!

by BleedGreenandBlue on Aug 31, 2010 4:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, Jesus God, no...

…that just doesn’t sound right. Tell me that’s not right.

"Have a good time all the time" - Viv Savage, Spinal Tap

by HawksFanHernandez on Aug 31, 2010 4:03 PM PDT reply actions  

You've gotta be kidding me

How the – ? What the – ? Stunned. Pissed. Dear God this is dumb. I’ve been supportive up until now but this is god damned ridiculous.

by ErictheHawksFan on Aug 31, 2010 4:04 PM PDT reply actions  

ONLY a 5th rounder too?!?!?

That can’t be right. The guy plays like the 2nd rounder we drafted him with, and has more upside than most young corners in the league..

This can’t be right!!!!!!!!!

Ka-Kaaa!

by JerryNice on Aug 31, 2010 4:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Maybe he means the M's utility superstar Josh Wilson

Because if it’s the cornerback Josh Wilson, and for a FIFTH ROUNDER, then rage will ensue.

by Postureduck on Aug 31, 2010 4:05 PM PDT reply actions  

They must love Roy Lewis

and this means Babs is even more likely to stay on the roster.

by PattyB on Aug 31, 2010 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

thats a bad move

Babs is not a better player then Wilson

From The Hawks Nest

by Hancock.Brett on Aug 31, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Not by a damn sight. It’s not even close.

by ErictheHawksFan on Aug 31, 2010 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Okay, I quite quit now...

If life gives you lemons, keep the receipt

by Bramlet A. on Aug 31, 2010 4:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Walther Thurmond is rad

but I mean really? FUCK (just had to get that out).

From The Hawks Nest

by Hancock.Brett on Aug 31, 2010 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

They are the only reasoning behind it.

That whole “Ravens actively in the market for CBs & linemen” thing, if they wanted something higher than roster trimmings, I would have expected a better return.

I wonder if these guys value height at CB as well, given the whole WR thing. This sucks.

by jacobstevens on Aug 31, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Baltimore is a contender looking to win this year

with a huge weakness at CB. This move sucks my ass.

inside of a dog it's too dark to read.

by shams on Aug 31, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

But that's just it. Could we have possibly been actively shopping for a suitor to pick up Wilson?

This has to have originated from Baltimore. They already publicly stated they’re looking for a CB. Wilson was a working-class hero over there for the Terps.

They can have roster trimmings, or they can have something substantial, if someone is willing to give up a substantial piece of their team right before the season. Which is an outright rarity. Leverage should have been ours.

by jacobstevens on Aug 31, 2010 4:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

UPDATE

From the TNT blog:

UPDATE: The Seahawks just confirmed the move, stating the team had traded Josh Wilson to Baltimore for a conditional 2011 choice. It’s being reported the pick is a fourth or fifth rounder.

by PattyB on Aug 31, 2010 4:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Potential 4th

Softens the Blow a little but not much

Fly Leon! Fly!

by BleedGreenandBlue on Aug 31, 2010 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

No 4th rounder is as good as him

Unless they’re stocking picks to bombard someone for a nice 1st rounder to get a QB – I hate this move.

by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 31, 2010 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Height

The only thing I can think is that the regime likes taller players and Wilson doesnt fit the mold they are looking for…. I have no idea.. I would have expected Jennings to go for this price not Wilson…..

Fly Leon! Fly!

by BleedGreenandBlue on Aug 31, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

they should value good players

Jennings is not, Wilson is. Fuck height. I’m not trying to be dismissive of your argument just venting, I agree though they must value height a lot.

From The Hawks Nest

by Hancock.Brett on Aug 31, 2010 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Denial

Im going through the stages of grief, maybe im bargaining right now I dont even know…

Fly Leon! Fly!

by BleedGreenandBlue on Aug 31, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I usually skip the other stages

and settle on anger. It worked for the Tapp and Whitehurst trades. It will work for this to god dammit!

From The Hawks Nest

by Hancock.Brett on Aug 31, 2010 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

THURMOND BETTER BE AMAZING

or this piece of hog shit transaction will sting for a while.

From The Hawks Nest

by Hancock.Brett on Aug 31, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thurmond > Jennings

But not better than Wilson. Not right now. There’s little positive about this but at the very least there’s some hope that Carroll will recognize that Jennings is terrible.

by ErictheHawksFan on Aug 31, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

What.

The.

Fuck.

This is a clear example of how even though a fanbase can be totally in love with a player, the organization can have totally different feelings.

by djafrot on Aug 31, 2010 4:12 PM PDT reply actions  

I was "meh" on Sims. But Wilson was fun to watch.

Admittedly, he’s a little small, which limits him somewhat. But he’d be great long-term at the nickel spot.

by djafrot on Aug 31, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not to mention an average return of 43.5 per INT.

I just don’t see how we can realistically hope to get a player as good as we’re giving up in this trade with the pick we got.

by Mind of no mind on Aug 31, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

if they trade Mebane

I’m burning down VMAC, fuck that tainted ground.

From The Hawks Nest

by Hancock.Brett on Aug 31, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

And salt the earth, man

Make sure nothing grows there, ever again.

by Buster! on Aug 31, 2010 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd build a statue of Mebane

gauging Pete Carroll’s eyes out.

From The Hawks Nest

by Hancock.Brett on Aug 31, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Good God man, don't mention Mebane's name

No more articles written about how much we love him. Don’t jinx him. Don’t say his name in public, or even when you think you’re alone at night.

by biju on Aug 31, 2010 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks, Nate. I needed that laugh to cool my murderous rage

"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM

by Nick Andron on Aug 31, 2010 5:37 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ozzie Newsome just called Wilson depth

So fucking annoyed. Unless they got a Revis trade set up this makes no fucking sense

by G-Mo on Aug 31, 2010 4:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Wilson was as popular a Terp over there as he was a Hawk over here.

They have to be loving this so hard. Also loving the cajones of Ozzie to go all in for this year, the Ray Lewis swan song.

by jacobstevens on Aug 31, 2010 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUU

Goddamn, this organization hates Ruskell’s draft picks.

by aerozeppelin on Aug 31, 2010 4:19 PM PDT reply actions  

ugh

my initial reaction to that was “you’re crazy”, but after today I’m not so sure.

From The Hawks Nest

by Hancock.Brett on Aug 31, 2010 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I WILL FUCK THEM UP!

And it will only be the warm-up act, Robert will be the headliner of vengeance.

Thank you, Walter Jones.
Thank you, Ken Griffey Jr.

by thebyron on Sep 1, 2010 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

WHY THE FUCK?!?!?!?!?!?!?

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Semper Fi'
WatchKalibRun.com
Pain don't hurt...

by RolloTomasi on Aug 31, 2010 4:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Every time Jennings gets beat this season...

and he will, with his usual regularity, fans will be saying, AND RIGHTLY SO, why get rid of Josh Wilson?

And if Jennings, Lewis, or Thurmond go down for any length of time with injury, this move will look even more boneheaded.

Though, as I think about it, if a team wanted to throw against Kelly Jennings, Josh Wilson’s presence as a starter wouldn’t necessarily have kept that from happening. All they would have had to do is draw out our nickel or dime package.

by rymong on Aug 31, 2010 4:22 PM PDT reply actions  

Calabro is on the radio

Praising the churning of the roster. I agree to a point, but not Pistol, good God…

by ErictheHawksFan on Aug 31, 2010 4:22 PM PDT reply actions  

i really thought it was going to be babs...

…and that it’d be to the sealions.

this hurts in the belly.

by roddychops on Aug 31, 2010 4:23 PM PDT reply actions  

I can only assume Morgan hasn't said anything because he through his new laptop out a window

I guess they decided they were letting him go when his contract was up and figured they might as well get something before that

by G-Mo on Aug 31, 2010 4:25 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

This is what your dog feels like

on the ride back from the vet shortly after being neutered. You know something valuable has been taken from you but you don’t quite know the outcome yet. But there certainly is a missing feeling.

by biju on Aug 31, 2010 4:25 PM PDT reply actions   3 recs

God,

Fucking.
Damnit.

Lets lose more playmakers in our secondary. That will ensure victory.

by NViera on Aug 31, 2010 4:25 PM PDT reply actions  

Um... WHAT.THE.FUCK?!?!

Unless he’s about to get popped for felony coke possession, this is fucking ridiculous!!

Karma police, arrest this man.

by wyte_lightning on Aug 31, 2010 4:26 PM PDT reply actions  

I just read the news less than 5 minutes ago, but am I the only one not SO bummed out about this?

I hate the trade, don’t get me wrong; maybe I didn’t view him as a cornerstone of the franchise. He was always a bit of a ’tweener, right? Not really good at man coverage, not a big enough hitter to play safety.

Although, the more I think about it, and the more I consider his likely improvement going into this season, and our current depth at corner…..okay, I’m ready to GNN now.

FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!!!!!!!!

by J.L. White on Aug 31, 2010 4:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Going Field Gulls in effect.

GFG: the antithesis of GNN.

All The Way, AIRBORNE!!!

by Airborne Hawk Guy on Aug 31, 2010 4:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Wilson is a very good player who was young

The front office has established a pattern of doing this and it may come back to bite them square in the ass. If this “regime” doesn’t work out it will doom the franchise because we will be forced to rebuild again. They are all we have at this point and they keep trading my favorite players :(

From The Hawks Nest

by Hancock.Brett on Aug 31, 2010 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Way to GFG, buddy!

Kind of overreacting, but not really; all the while remaining poised and thoughtful. Kudos!

by J.L. White on Aug 31, 2010 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

My thoughts exactly.

Classic GFG.

All The Way, AIRBORNE!!!

by Airborne Hawk Guy on Aug 31, 2010 4:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

It's actually an interesting point that hadn't occurred to me, to that level

But these roster moves really do lock us into this regime in to an extreme level. He’s purging everything that doesn’t fit his system. So either we stick with the system, or we sink.

by Thomas Beekers on Aug 31, 2010 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Q/PM have been TERRIBLE other than draft day.

That’s it, one good day that they’ve had. What a fucking roller coaster ride.

by SPENCEMAN on Aug 31, 2010 4:38 PM PDT reply actions  

*dring dring* *dring dring*

Ozzie: Hey, John? Look, let me be honest with you because you know what’s going on. We’re in win now mode but we need that final cornerstone. We think Josh Wilson is it, he could start for us week 1.

John: I see.

Ozzie: What I’m saying is, we want this kid.

John: Ok, but we can go no lower than the 7th round!

Ozzie: …what?

John: Ok, a 6th rounder, but that’s my final offer.

Ozzie: I’m not sure you understand how this works. I approached you, you’re supposed to bend me over the barrel.

John: Look, I’m just saying, a 5th is the most we can ask.

Ozzie: But we’re talking about a starter here. I’m serious, a week 1 starter. Shouldn’t you be asking for a 2nd rounder, if not a 1st?

John: FINE. 5th rounder, conditional to a 4th!

Ozzie: Oh fuck it. Deal.

by Thomas Beekers on Aug 31, 2010 4:39 PM PDT reply actions   3 recs

"After preaching competition and being aggressive...

…the Seahawks have traded the corner who should have won the CB2 competition and exemplifies competition and aggressiveness at the corner position."

by NViera on Aug 31, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Unless they plan on leaving 3 LB's on the field at all times

they can shove that “doesn’t fit our scheme” bullshit up their ass.

You couldn’t create a better nickel back than Josh Wilson.

by Culter on Aug 31, 2010 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

UPDATE

Reporters were told to stick around the VMAC. Apparently something else may be in the works.

by ErictheHawksFan on Aug 31, 2010 4:43 PM PDT reply actions  

YEA! SOMETHING ELSE!

Should I be excited, or piss-my-pants scared?

by J.L. White on Aug 31, 2010 4:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

It had better be the former

I don’t think we can deal with another pissed off thread today.

by ErictheHawksFan on Aug 31, 2010 4:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great

We traded for Matt Leinart – just kidding but based on the history nothing would shock me. FUCK ME FUCK YOU

by m_b on Aug 31, 2010 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying I have a bomb.

But, I can get one really fucking fast.

"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."

by the other side on Aug 31, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not funny.

inside of a dog it's too dark to read.

by shams on Aug 31, 2010 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm getting the feeling that Pete just waits for everything to calm down and get boring.

Then WHAM. Betcha didn’t see that one coming motherfuckers!!!

"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."

by the other side on Aug 31, 2010 4:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Ugh, fucking hate this.

Just because you don’t agree with every Ruskell pick doesn’t mean you have to give them all away. I was starting to warm up to Schneider and Carroll after the draft, but now I’m back to cold. I want Ruskell back.

by MFAN on Aug 31, 2010 4:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Not GNN (Actually, not sure what that even is,heh)

I was never big on Ruskell leaving in the first place and outside of a couple moves I’ve disliked a good portion of what Schneider and Carroll have done.

by MFAN on Aug 31, 2010 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

GNN

Example: “YEAH! FUCK PISTOL! HE WAS WORTHLESS ANYWAYS! JENNINGS IS WAY BETTER! WE’RE GOING TO THE SUPER BOWL NOW!!”

by ErictheHawksFan on Aug 31, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

GNN

is short for “Going Niners Nation”

by ErictheHawksFan on Aug 31, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ahh, got it. Thanks.

Brian Westbrook and Gore, 1,000 yards each!

by MFAN on Aug 31, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Make it 2000!

And Alex Smith passes for 6000 yards! 3000 to VD, 3000 to Crabtree! 40 TD’s Each! Defense never allows a point of a first down!

by ErictheHawksFan on Aug 31, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

An open letter to Walter Thurmond's knee:

Please stay healthy o’ completely rebuilt critical joint. We need you now more than ever.

XOXO,
Field Gulls

All The Way, AIRBORNE!!!

by Airborne Hawk Guy on Aug 31, 2010 4:47 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

He could be the next Revis

and we still wouldn’t have a nickel back that was worth a damn.

by Culter on Aug 31, 2010 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Wow.

I was very close to buying a Wilson jersey this year. Glad I didn’t do that.

Unbelievable move. Fuck.

It's Great to be a Florida Gator!

What the french, toast?

by Wayward Llama on Aug 31, 2010 4:49 PM PDT reply actions  

I am so devastated right now...

like, my heart physically hurts. My favorite Seahawk = gone.

Field Gulls: my anti-PFT.

by PRIDEin253 on Aug 31, 2010 4:49 PM PDT reply actions  

As a point of reference,

Ellis Hobbs is a similarly built CB (5’9") with just one more season than Wilson at the time of trade, but the Pats got two 5th round draft picks. Q/PM is really terrible at trades.

by aerozeppelin on Aug 31, 2010 4:50 PM PDT reply actions  

I have been such a homer that I've given Schneder and Carrol......

the benefit of the doubt on everything they have done. But this is just beyond “WHAT THE FUCK”.

by coug111 on Aug 31, 2010 4:52 PM PDT reply actions  

This is unbelievable fucking bullshit. Incredible ineptitude.

Wilson is a dangerous pick 6 playmaker. And they give him away for
a fifth. Fucking ineptitude. And I don’t use obscenity in my posts.

by broadbill birdwatcher on Aug 31, 2010 4:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Looking at my Seahawks list from Twitter, so have most of the media.

Brock&Salk, Doug, Ray Roberts, everyone thinks it’s stupid, it’s baffling….

by jacobstevens on Aug 31, 2010 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

You were wondering why people like Brock and Salk?
Looks to me like Seahawks have now traded two best players on last year’s defense: Josh Wilson and Darryl Tapp. Don’t get it.

by Nate Dogg on Aug 31, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Brock and Salk is the best sports radio show in the area.

Granted, low bar to clear, but they’re good. Well, at least Mike Salk is. Brock should never be allowed to talk baseball. Or basketball. And never, ever soccer.

by BrianL on Aug 31, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like em, too. I just never understood the great disparity.

I really enjoy Calabro’s show, and the only time I’ve ever heard him mentioned here it’s with scorn.

by jacobstevens on Aug 31, 2010 5:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I like the Calabro show too,

but Jim Mor or whatever his name is, can be pretty painful to listen too. Whenever they interview someone, he always asks at least one awkward question that makes me cringe.

Also, as someone who listens to everything on podcast, there just usually isn’t enough time in the day to listen to more than one show, unless Calabro gets someone on the show that I really want to listen to.

by Mind of no mind on Aug 31, 2010 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

Deal with it.

Sooner you realize it as a reality the sooner you can prepare for the heartbreak this season will be.

by SPENCEMAN on Aug 31, 2010 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

YOU PLAY IN ST LOUIS

"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."

by the other side on Aug 31, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Spenceman or Doucheman

Go Back to the Rams blog and let us Hawks fans Lament in our Lose, dont throw salt on the wound.

Fly Leon! Fly!

by BleedGreenandBlue on Aug 31, 2010 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

:(

your first post wasnt indicative of that but I get it now

Fly Leon! Fly!

by BleedGreenandBlue on Aug 31, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cool nickname bro.

Did you think that up yourself?

by Cannonater on Aug 31, 2010 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Clicking on the user's name can be helpful.

Thank you, Walter Jones.
Thank you, Ken Griffey Jr.

by thebyron on Sep 1, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heartbreak?

Anything above 0-16 will probably qualify as “not a heartbreak” for a team intent on burning away its young, talented core.

Drafted players are fine and all but they won’t contribute from the bat. It is what it is.

PS: lay off guys. Keep your anger focused where it belongs, at the queen and prime minister. And Ozzie Newsome for abusing their ineptitude

by Thomas Beekers on Aug 31, 2010 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Reed forbid!

Thank you, Walter Jones.
Thank you, Ken Griffey Jr.

by thebyron on Sep 1, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Un-fucking-believable

Every time I think being a Mets fan is the worst thing in the world, the Seahawks pull some stupid shit like this to make me even more depressed.

by Steeeve on Aug 31, 2010 5:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Wake up

This is exactly how the Patriots have built a winning organization.

We have more corners than we can use. We’ll keep Tru-Jennings-Thurmond-Lewis and put Pinkard on the PS.

Lewis + draft pick is worth more than Josh Wilson.

A year from now, this 4th round pick will turn into a valuable player.

Go 'Hawks.

by JimAK on Aug 31, 2010 5:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Way off

The Patriots dump players with contract issues or that are old for high value picks.

We just drafted a young player with no issues for a low value pick.

“Accruing picks” is not a binary process, you don’t either do it or not do it. You can do it well, like the Pats do, or way wrong, like the Hawks.

by Thomas Beekers on Aug 31, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well I wouldn't say

Way wrong, but certainly they’re not doing it as well as the Pats do it. Perhaps all these picks are stocking up for the draft? Maybe…?

Okay, never mind, that’s a bullshit excuse.

by Cannonater on Aug 31, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

pass the good shit my friend

stop smoking it all

From The Hawks Nest

by Hancock.Brett on Aug 31, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lewis + draft pick < Lewis + Wilson

Lewis -Lewis
-
—————————————————-
          Draft pick < Wilson

Thank you, Walter Jones.
Thank you, Ken Griffey Jr.

by thebyron on Sep 1, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

Damn you, autoformatting

Second line of my proof should be subtracting Lewis from both sides of the inequation.

Thank you, Walter Jones.
Thank you, Ken Griffey Jr.

by thebyron on Sep 1, 2010 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Strange move

If one was to look at it another way, we’re so set with our corners that we can dump the weakest guy. Who didn’t appear to be weak at all but maybe, just maybe, all our other guys rock.

I might be grasping at straws.

by Great Sergios Ghost on Aug 31, 2010 5:02 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't care if it is half full.

I just want to know where the other fucking half went.

"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."

by the other side on Aug 31, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

To teams

who will almost certainly have a better record than us.

by ErictheHawksFan on Aug 31, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

the glass is half full

but it has a fucking hole in the bottom

by coug111 on Aug 31, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

IT WAS COMPLETELY FULL BEFORE THIS TRADE! NOW THE GLASS IS ONLY HALF FULL!!!

We have exactly 50% less water in that glass now….I’m not sure what it means, but I think it has something to do with Pete Carroll being the devil.

by J.L. White on Aug 31, 2010 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Kelly. Fucking. Jennings.

That would be the worst corner in an otherwise very talented group. We gave up the second best out of that very good group, which happens to make this group not very good.

by Fightfightfight on Aug 31, 2010 5:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Please stop

I don’t want to hear Locker’s name (outside of a UW-related thread) until after the season. He doesn’t play for this team, and he might never play here at all.

I still think that: Rooting for the Seahawks to draft Locker = Rooting for the Seahawks to lose.

by J.L. White on Aug 31, 2010 5:10 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Sarcastic tweet sent to carrol

“@PeteCarroll wow I hope Jennings develops some ball skills. Why not trade Carlson for a sixth while you’re at it?”
I’m sure whoever reads his tweets will pass it along.

by Moresoftness on Aug 31, 2010 5:09 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

What if

the thought had not crossed his mind until you said something. If that happens I will hunt you down.

by 12th_man_syndrome on Aug 31, 2010 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

Haha

Carroll: "Hmm, there seems to be a lot of angry tweets here. Wait, what’s this? Carlson for a sixth rounder? By jove I never thought of that! Farnsworth! Get the queen on the phone!

by Moresoftness on Aug 31, 2010 8:19 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

Thank God for Beer

otherwise I don’t there is going to much reason to go to the game this year.

by coug111 on Aug 31, 2010 5:10 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

"I don't drink"

Good god. I am so sorry. There’s always …?

by paul2 on Aug 31, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Alcohol allergy

Wish I’d known about it earlier. Good god, those hangovers…

by Buster! on Aug 31, 2010 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Do yourself a favor, guys in the Pacific NW

Get some Rogue Imperial Chocolate Stout. 10% ABV and enough delicious stuff to keep you warm even on a winter day at Qwest.

by Steeeve on Aug 31, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some confimation per Twitter
Carroll said that the play of rookie Walter Thurmond was a deciding factor — they’re confident enough in their depth guys & Kelly Jennings
But Thurmond was the primary reason. They love his quickness, his ability to man up into contact and his range.

Per Doug Farrar’s twitter

by ErictheHawksFan on Aug 31, 2010 5:12 PM PDT reply actions  

If you love Thurmond so much

Make him the starter and put Wilson at Nickel CB where he’s best. This trade still makes no sense.

by Steeeve on Aug 31, 2010 5:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm excited to attend the Farrar/Thurmond nuptials

It should be a lovely affair; Doug will look so stunning in his white dress. That must mean he and Walter decided to wait until the honeymoon! How romantic!!!

(just kidding)

by J.L. White on Aug 31, 2010 5:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh Good GOD...

Also per Farrar:

Re: the value, Schneider brought up that Randy Moss was traded for a fourth — “that’s what the market was.”

by ErictheHawksFan on Aug 31, 2010 5:13 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm starting to think Schneider doesn't understand that if the market value of your player is less than his value to your team, you just KEEP HIM.

It’s like he’s deciding “I’m going to trade this guy,” and then just taking what he can get, rather than saying “Let’s see if I can get a good deal for this guy” and then deciding whether or not to trade him based on the offer.

by sev79 on Aug 31, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hell yeah!

"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."

by the other side on Aug 31, 2010 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh god let the power be real.

Franklin is my favorite non Pineda prospect in the org.

by BrianL on Aug 31, 2010 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh by far

He had a lot to live up to in regards to many people’s dismay over that pick. Holy shit has he. The future has rainbows, many, many rainbows.

"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."

by the other side on Aug 31, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

WE'RE GETTING RANDY MOSS!!!

Thank you, Walter Jones.
Thank you, Ken Griffey Jr.

by thebyron on Sep 1, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

So there was a press conference to explain the trade

It doesn’t look like any sensible explanation was given. String-copy:
Press conf. with Pete Carroll and John Schneider just wrapped up — they discussed the Josh Wilson trade. Carroll said that the play of rookie Walter Thurmond was a deciding factor — they’re confident enough in their depth guys & Kelly Jennings. But Thurmond was the primary reason. They love his quickness, his ability to man up into contact and his range.
Trade was also affected by Trufant’s excellent play this preseason. Slightly less of a need to keep a higher depth chart on roster now. Re: the value, Schneider brought up that Randy Moss was traded for a fourth — “that’s what the market was.”

by Thomas Beekers on Aug 31, 2010 5:13 PM PDT reply actions  

"thats what the market was"

then, I don’t know, don’t TRADE?!!"
Sheftered all over again.

by paul2 on Aug 31, 2010 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Market is really a stupid reason

The housing market sucks now but I’m being forced to sell anyway. I dont think the Seahawks are under the same kind of pressure. I doubt the bank was going to foreclose on Josh Wilson if they didnt trade him.

by Steeeve on Aug 31, 2010 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Are you listening to yourself!?

These words coming out of your mouth. They make no sense.

by BrianL on Aug 31, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Doug Farrar again on Twitter
FO_DougFarrar
Kelly Jennings is the starter opposute Trufant, but it sounds as if this is Thormond’s job to lose.

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