Seattle Seahawks Trade Josh Wilson to Baltimore Ravens for Conditional Fifth-Round Pick
Am I angry? Yes I am angry.
Here's the skinny: Josh Wilson is a 25-year old corner and former second-round pick that has amassed in three seasons, and mostly on very poor pass defenses, more value than an average fifth-round pick amasses in their entire career. He is a ball hawk and an impresario of the pick six. In two seasons starting, he has six interceptions and three returned for touchdowns. Wilson has averaged 43.5 yards per interception.
2010 is his contract year. Wilson is due $550,000 on the back end of a four-year deal.
Josh Wilson was my second favorite Seahawk, for whatever that's worth. He is an excellent nickelback, a sound and sometimes punishing open field tackler (Wilson forced three fumbles in 2008) that has shown improving cover skills. His tools, minus his height, are off the charts. He ran a legitimate 4.39 forty at the 2007 NFL Combine. That showing bests all defensive backs in the 2010 class. Every single one of them. 58 of the very best talents in college football, including Eric Berry, Earl Thomas and Taylor Mays, and not one ran a faster forty than Wilson. He also flashed a 36.5 inch vertical, popped 20 reps on the bench and scored a 29 on the Wonderlic.
Seattle just turned what every team hopes a second-round pick can become into a fifth-round pick. The Seahawks secondary is young and deep. The recovery of Walter Thurmond and emergence of Roy Lewis means Seattle is dealing from a position of strength. That, Wilson's looming contract, and a narrow commitment to "building through the draft" is the justification for this move. A realistic evaluation of Wilson's talent and the true value of a fifth-round pick is the damning reality.
Seattle is worse today than it was yesterday. Much worse. And for what? Another Owen Schmitt, Will Herring, David Kirtman or Jeb Huckeba?
Good luck in Baltimore, Pistol.
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Q/PM has been playing ESPN Fantasy Football.
Per ESPN Fantasy on Seahawks defense
Conventional wisdom has it that while the Seahawks are moribund on offense, they’ve spent enough high picks on defense that they’re at least solid there. We don’t see it. Not to damn Aaron Curry for his entire career just because he had a poor rookie year, but his next impact play will be his first. Kelly Jennings was a bad first-round pick and Josh Wilson is even worse, so the team is still looking for someone to play corner opposite Marcus Trufant. (The Ken Lucas experiment didn’t work in 2009.) Lofa Tatupu is healthy, Leroy Hill is good, and rookie free safety Earl Thomas looks like a player, but Patrick Kerney retired, leaving huge pass-rush question marks. Shaky pass rush and questionable corners? Pete Carroll has his work cut out for him.
Another reason never to listen to ESPN Fantasy
A pointless dig at Pistol AND a backhanded compliment to the rest of the defense? Whoever wrote that is an asshole.
Here's the thing
I’d rather take a shot at trying to re-sign Wilson in the offseason than deal him for a fifth that might become a fourth if we’re lucky. If that’s the reason he was dealt, I’m annoyed. Now, if he was dealt because he wasn’t a Pete and John guy, I’m really annoyed.
Definitely some Gull channers around here.
All The Way, AIRBORNE!!!
by Airborne Hawk Guy on Aug 31, 2010 5:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Of course. The point was that there are some lurkers of /b/ that post here.
All The Way, AIRBORNE!!!
by Airborne Hawk Guy on Aug 31, 2010 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
This place will never become as bad a /b/
For many reasons, one of which is the completely lack of psychos posting child porn.
We’re all just venting harmlessly here; it’s cathartic.
That and our posts have our names on them.
All The Way, AIRBORNE!!!
by Airborne Hawk Guy on Aug 31, 2010 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Hey let's post Schnieder's address and phone number and email address
We would be total assholes….but we still wouldn’t be as bad as /b/.
I joined when Fearless was already on his way out. What was his deal?
by Anticitizen_One on Aug 31, 2010 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Aaron Curry raped his dog.
The rest is history.
Toronto FC - Where road games are forfeited and we STILL have no idea how to play from behind.
by SSreporters on Aug 31, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm actually someone interested to hear what he thinks about Carroll and Schneider.
Also as it’s not hear.
No one trolls you
You’re not a nazi like Brian is.
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I dunno
Fearless added a certain…ambiance?
by Thomas Beekers on Aug 31, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions
did Fearless Frog get banned?
we always thought he was funny over at Niners Nation. he tried to convince us that Lofa Tatupu was better than Patrick Willis. it was hilarious.
When life gives you fruit, add a bunch of sugar to it.
Yeah
Trying to convince Niners Nations users of anything tends to be pretty funny.
by Thomas Beekers on Sep 2, 2010 3:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Well that JM article didn't make me happier
Why was I hoping John would soothe the burn?
HA!!!
That was fucking awesome! Watch out…here comes big ben!
by bonecruncher on Aug 31, 2010 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions
6 interceptions in 2 seasons
3 returned for a touchdown, arguably our best corner blitzer…gone just like that.
Make me optimistic please. Our awful secondary just got a lot worse.
Toronto FC - Where road games are forfeited and we STILL have no idea how to play from behind.
The secondary wasn't awful this year. It was actually a strength of the defense based on what we've seen during the preseason.
But yes, you’re right, it got worse.
Golden!
by Carl Shinyama on Sep 1, 2010 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions
My theory
San Diego doesnt want to trade Vincent Jackson, so they demanded something ridiculous like a conditional 5th round pick from an AFC North team. Then bam. Surprise surprise, we get that pick.
Welcome to Seattle V-Jax!
For about 80% of teams
he is. Just because he may start several games for us is not reflective of his talent, but the lack of talent in the Seahawks organization.
BUT JOHN BUT JOHN YOU'RE FORGETTING RANDY MOSS WAS ONLY A WORTH FOURTH ROUND PICK ONCE!
by Anticitizen_One on Aug 31, 2010 5:42 PM PDT reply actions
Next draft we trade everything for one player
And when people ask him “what the hell are you smoking?” hell point to the Ricky Williams trade
by Thomas Beekers on Aug 31, 2010 5:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe the Seahawks are going to sign JaMarcus Russell next!
Also, no Seahawks fan wants to hear any kind of comparison to the dreaded Oakland Raiders. That’s poor form by Queen John.
Not why. It sounds more like justification.
He knew fans would think he got fleeced in that trade.
Golden!
by Carl Shinyama on Sep 1, 2010 8:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Just a reminder
Earl Thomas’ pick six was directly caused by JW’s talent.
Overwhelmingly bad form, Seattle. This is how you lose fans.
It is what it is...
Well said
You’re dead on. No way in hell Kelly Jennings makes that play.
by ErictheHawksFan on Aug 31, 2010 5:43 PM PDT up reply actions
What duh fuck?
Whatever the management is smoking they need to step away from the pipe
by southern oregon on Aug 31, 2010 5:42 PM PDT reply actions
Then mail it to me
Nothin quite like that Pacific Northwest weed…
half of Seattle is on this page right now
and they’re all mad as hell
Ghettoville here.
Columbia, SC. Hating this trade, and bewildered.
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
What the french, toast?
by Wayward Llama on Aug 31, 2010 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions
And a sliver of Ohio
It aint any better here for what its worth.
Still sucks.
by ChucklehutCynic on Aug 31, 2010 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Fayetteville, North Carolina checking in.
All The Way, AIRBORNE!!!
by Airborne Hawk Guy on Aug 31, 2010 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
And a lonely outpost in South Dakota
One of my top three favorite players is now gone. #1 used to be Tapp. I was devastated when he was traded
by Jackrabbit5683 on Aug 31, 2010 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Also Washington DC.
(and I’ll form the head!)
I'm in West Seattle right now,
but I was born in the CD and raised in Columbia City for a while, but I been living in Brooklyn for like 6 years now so
Central Area Columbia City Brooklyn represent!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZDUh9yboqI
Your culture is primitive; yet so funky!
by jubelthebear on Aug 31, 2010 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions
And little towns in eastern Washington that you've never heard of
But I count myself as madder than hell.
My thoughts are
That if one of Jennings or Pistol had to go the clear choice should have been the guy with no ball skilz. MEH.
Height wont help when you cant play the ball in the air, and the two things we know about Jennings, make that 3 are, cover is decent, size is paper thin, ball skills are non existant.
Pistol MADE PLAYS and added value for it.
We need play makers now more than we did 3 hours ago sadly.
Poor Choice IMO
by ChucklehutCynic on Aug 31, 2010 5:45 PM PDT reply actions
I think what pisses me off more is not Wilson being traded
But the virtual guarantee Jennings is staying despite showing absolutely no improvement from year #1. I don’t care if it’s a scheme issue, he has no ball skills, and gets beaten easily in deep coverage.
You’re welcome, DeCosta.
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That is literally what I said when I read this
Sitting next to my Cowboys fan roommate, I read this post to him outloud as I held back tears. He thought I as joking and he doesn’t even know who Josh Wilson is. We got a 3rd for LoJack and a 5th for our second best CB?
Portland transplant to Boston.
We didn't get a 3rd rounder for LoJack
I wish. We got a 6th.
Outside of the draft, PC/Schneider have not made a single trade in which they have not been the losing party by a significant margin. ’cept arguably the Balmer trade, and that one was nothing special.
by Thomas Beekers on Aug 31, 2010 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Let me live
in my fantasy world please. You don’t wake a sleepwalker; you don’t correct a dillusionsal.
Portland transplant to Boston.
you guys definitely lost the Balmer trade.
us Niner fans were laughing when we got a 6th round pick for him. we were already sure he would get cut within a couple days and wind up in the UFL with JaMarcus Russell.
Kentwan Balmer is not a football player, he just looks like one on the street.
When life gives you fruit, add a bunch of sugar to it.
I lost it at the Favre pic.
Farewell.
"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."
Against Sanchez?
One pass.
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HA!
Nice! So true.
The ‘Dirty’ is gunna serve it up…
by ChucklehutCynic on Aug 31, 2010 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Pistol will intercept Sanchez as he tries to throw his bag onto the team bus.
All The Way, AIRBORNE!!!
by Airborne Hawk Guy on Aug 31, 2010 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
If this move was a football play...
… Pete Carroll would be getting his ass chewed beyond recognition in the film room.
Pete, you were supposed to be an upgrade over Mora and Ruskell. This is nothing short of a jackass deal.
/dick joke
If Mora was here
Spencer would be gone by now, possibly dead.
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Just posted by Danny O'Neil
We signed DE James Wyche
Ha
Yeah, that wasn’t supposed to be a great thing. I keep checking because of the rumor something big was happening. I hope this wasn’t the “something big”.
You mean with the press being told to wait?
I think that was just so PC/Schneider could make their little “we don’t really understand how the NFL works” speech.
by Thomas Beekers on Aug 31, 2010 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Lol'd. Rec'd.
All The Way, AIRBORNE!!!
by Airborne Hawk Guy on Aug 31, 2010 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Good point
I guess I can go back to smashing my myself in the junk with a hammer then.
We signed someone with a grand total of 1 tackle in his career!
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More meaningless roster churn
I have no patience for PC’s schtick right now.
by Thomas Beekers on Aug 31, 2010 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow, terrific.
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
What the french, toast?
by Wayward Llama on Aug 31, 2010 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Well boys and girls
I’m off to the razor blade and noose store. Have fun!
by ErictheHawksFan on Aug 31, 2010 5:51 PM PDT reply actions
What?!
Did we trade Mebane, Tutupu and Trufant for a Ryan Leaf and a conditional 5th too?
Portland transplant to Boston.
WOW
They Seahawks could have have a year of production and still received a better compensatory in 2012, strange trade
IMO
I think the main reason for the trade was to shore up a roster spot for someone else
Not saying t was a good trade, but I think that was the real motivation here.
Also true of course...
But I would think SOMEONE out there would have taken him? (Jennings) I mean we can’t be the only team that likes his skill set can we? But based on the evidence I guess I answered my own pleading.
Perhaps he’ll figure out the whole ball in the air thing sometime soon.
One can only hope.
Puzzling thing was Schneider was quoted as saying this was an aggressive Ravens approach to get Pistol. How does that + added value he brought equal 4th or 5th value?
Just don’t get it.
by ChucklehutCynic on Aug 31, 2010 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Jennings probably is worth cutting outright
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This should be how we do all of our trades...
Schneider: “Who would you rather have, Josh Wilson or Kelly Jennings?”
NFL team: “Josh Wilson, of course.”
Schneider: “Thanks. Only Kelly Jennings is available then.”
by biju on Aug 31, 2010 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Excellent Point
Weird.
Wonder if they even thought of that in the FO?
by ChucklehutCynic on Aug 31, 2010 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Waiting until 2012 is risky because of that whole Mayan thing
by lemonverbena on Aug 31, 2010 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
How many weeks before we realize that in this league...
you can never have too many good cornerbacks?
As a self-proclaimed lurker......
I’m so outraged that I will come out of my mobile-internet-phone cave, and cry with my fellow fieldgull flockers :`(
7 picks for 7 quarterbacks in Draft 2011! EFF IT!
by Seatown_Sport_Head321 on Aug 31, 2010 5:54 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Welcome to the Light....
Not fun right now…but welcome.
by ChucklehutCynic on Aug 31, 2010 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Same here...
so I’d better make this post good. Let’s see…aha! I know! (ahem)…FUCK.
by Sullitron on Aug 31, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
The Pats put Leigh Bodden on IR today.
I wonder if they’d be interested in Marcus Trufant and the Ravens 5th round pick for their 6th round pick?
I think by week 1 this will be our starting defense
Defensive Line: Chris Clemons, Kevin Vickerson, Colin Cole, Lamar King
Linebackers: Chad Brown, Will Herring, Leroy Hill
Defensive Backs: Terreal Bierria, Kelly Jennings, Brian Russell, Etric Pruitt
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I almost
pissed my pants laughing when I read Brian Russell. Thank you for brightening a dark day.
by 12th_man_syndrome on Aug 31, 2010 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions
Front office decided to take the heat off of British Petroleum.
by Anticitizen_One on Aug 31, 2010 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Im down with mosques
and having Wilson on the team.
by 12th_man_syndrome on Aug 31, 2010 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn! Why didn't you offer him to Detroit first?
We are very desperate for Cornerbacks. We are in the process of converting our third round pick of 2010 [Amari Spievey] into a Safety because he was not cutting it at corner. I can’t believe we would not have given you a fourth rounder for him. Our fourth rounder would have been in a better position than Baltimore’s. I wish that does not turn out to be true but I am a realist.
Maybe the NFL has a rule restricting how many trades two teams can make with each other?
by NorthLeft12 on Aug 31, 2010 6:00 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
The Sea Lions should have been first on the list.
All The Way, AIRBORNE!!!
by Airborne Hawk Guy on Aug 31, 2010 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't worry, we like to keep the Seattle-Detroit pipeline stocked.
I’m sure you got someone really good for that mid-tier offensive lineman.
by Anticitizen_One on Aug 31, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
"Maybe the NFL has a rule restricting how many trades two teams can make with each other?"
Ahahaha that honestly made me laugh.
To answer your question: well, when Schneider is approached and made an offer he can’t say no, because that’s how the market works.
Dooyyyyy
by Thomas Beekers on Aug 31, 2010 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I know... what a backwards anology huh?
Moss was damaged goods, and it’s not like the Pats were desperate.
The Ravens WERE desperate.
Ok... ok... I think I might be getting over this
ahhh hell… who am I kidding….. whaaaaaaaaattt thee fuuuuuuucckkkk???
Time for someone to post a 'Hitler Downfall' video
…of the Fuhrer busting an aorta over this godforsaken trade.
/dick joke
Jeff Sullivan with the answer.
There’s only room in this town for one RT @gregjohns1 Adam Schefter of ESPN is reporting Seahawks traded CB Josh Wilson to Ravens
I would have broken the knee of the other Josh Wilson to keep Pistol in town
Would’ve totally Kerrigan’d that guy, I swear!
Watched it...
More confused than ever. I could be a GM….I could get a better return than a 5th rounder for Wilson. No doubt.
What are they doing.
Well the good news is:
This move gave me full blown aids.
by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 31, 2010 6:10 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
only a couple hundred a month to keep you alive
it’s a worthy investment
John... can we get a play by play breakdown of Josh Wilson awesomeness?
I’m kind of a glutton for punishment
i just dont think josh was a big enough dirtbag.....
A damn shame really.
7 picks for 7 quarterbacks in Draft 2011! EFF IT!
by Seatown_Sport_Head321 on Aug 31, 2010 6:11 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
.
“The 100 Things Seahawks Fans Should Know & Do Before They Die”
- - Did you know Josh Wilson was traded for a 5th round draft pick? What you should do is strangle a puppy and commit seppuku.
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Fail. It was supposed to say #5.
Toronto FC - Where road games are forfeited and we STILL have no idea how to play from behind.
seppuku?
7 picks for 7 quarterbacks in Draft 2011! EFF IT!
by Seatown_Sport_Head321 on Aug 31, 2010 6:17 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Ritual form of suicide in Japanese history
A way to retain your honour when committing suicide, basically.
by Thomas Beekers on Aug 31, 2010 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't know what "Seppuku" is...
But at this point it might be less painful than watching this trade go down
Look it up on Google.
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Not to be confused with bukkake.
All The Way, AIRBORNE!!!
by Airborne Hawk Guy on Aug 31, 2010 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions
We do that when Nick Reed sacks someone.
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Good lord.
I still lol’d though.
All The Way, AIRBORNE!!!
by Airborne Hawk Guy on Aug 31, 2010 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions
It's time.
We just need to secede from the NFL. A litany of laughingstock moves has us destine for opprobrium anyway.
CFL Anyone? We can get our asses kicked up north, eh?
/dick joke
We lost a 3rd and 6th (Whitehurst and Balmer)
And have gained a conditional 7th (Wallace), conditional 5th (Wilson), a 6th (Jackson) and a 4th (Tapp)
So we have: 1, 2, 4, 4, 5, 5, 6, 7, 7
Off the top of my head
by Thomas Beekers on Aug 31, 2010 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions
We probably gave a 7th to Detroit for Polumbus
Prolly some other stuff I’m forgetting
by Thomas Beekers on Aug 31, 2010 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Sure it's not a 2nd or 3rd?
Isn’t that how our FO rolls?
by bonecruncher on Aug 31, 2010 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions
It was actually 4 Firsts
2011 through 2014, along with alternating seconds and thirds through 2024
We could be happy for Pistol
He may have just found himself on a SB-caliber team.
Still, all in all, I’d rather rant.
We should get a better pick if it conditional...shouldn't we?
by bonecruncher on Aug 31, 2010 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions
No
actually the deal was set up that if Wilson starts we get a 6th, if they make the playoffs it becomes a 7th, and if they win the Superbowl we give them fucking Trufant. That’s how Schneider rolls.
by 12th_man_syndrome on Aug 31, 2010 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
LEROY HILL
restructures his deal in a no salary cap year….and will now be a Free agent at the end of the year.
So we can use the 5th rounder for a LB to replace hill.
Dude.
You have the same name as a well regarded & talented DJ/bandleader!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZDUh9yboqI
Your culture is primitive; yet so funky!
by jubelthebear on Aug 31, 2010 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Daft Punk
is not playing at your house :-(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZDUh9yboqI
Your culture is primitive; yet so funky!
by jubelthebear on Aug 31, 2010 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Farrar makes it sound as though Schneider was doing the Ravens a favor
Josh is a great kid, and this is a team that really came after him. It happened very quickly."
“[Baltimore] has a situation where they have a strong need,” Schneider said. “It was one of those deals that comes along, and we felt we couldn’t pass it up.” The Ravens have been desperately looking for help at the cornerback position since losing Domonique Foxworth(notes) for the season to a torn ACL. It’s a great deal for a Super Bowl contender, which the Ravens are and the Seahawks are not.
/dick joke
Is that not the reason to steal from the other team?
Don’t you rape the other team, the one in dire need.
This quote pisses me off so much.
If you’re going to do that demand return commensurate with the circumstances.
The Ravens have loads of talent we could’ve gotten.
Toronto FC - Where road games are forfeited and we STILL have no idea how to play from behind.
I hope we surprise everyone and play the Ravens in the SB
Only to have Josh Wilson have a Pick 6 to win it for the Ravens
by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 31, 2010 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Can we deal for season tickets with the head office?
Because I need tickets bad. Wonder if they would trade for some cotton candy and a slurpee.
by bonecruncher on Aug 31, 2010 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions
gee golly that makes it better.
I’m glad we’re so NICE maybe we should just let other teams win since we aren’t competitive………DIRTBAGS!
7 picks for 7 quarterbacks in Draft 2011! EFF IT!
by Seatown_Sport_Head321 on Aug 31, 2010 7:00 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I've tried to take a little time since hearing this news to let it sink in
I did the same with the Tapp trade then never ended up posting.
I did the same with the Whitehurst trade then never ended up posting.
In these two cases it was because, as much as I saw the argument that neither trade represented great value, I could see that the FO were trading for players they obviously liked (Whitehurst and Clemons) for either a high-ish draft pick or a player they saw less value in. Time will tell whether or not these players are worth the price they paid. Talent is in the eye of the beholder, and personally I still don’t think we outrageously overpaid in either case.
To me, this is different.
1) There is no way anyone can convince me Josh Wilson has performed at a worse level than you’re average 4th round pick (the best we will receive next year). In fact I think he’s been pretty good for the late 2nd rounder he was. This cannot be good value, it just cannot. Basically, we just traded our best DB last year for a 5th. If that 5th turns out to be Jerry Rice V2, then we should have drafted him in an earlier round – it doesn’t make trading Josh Wilson for a 5th good value.
2) How does this make us better in the short/medium term? I don’t understand. They love Thurmond and want to start him at CB2. Fine. Wilson is as good a nickel CB as you’ll find anywhere in the league. Wilson has performed at a better level than Jennings since the day he stepped on the field – the stats are too damning and lopsided for anyone to tell me otherwise.
3) Baltimore wanted to trade for him. Again, Eric De Costa and Ozzie Newsome thinks one of your defensive players has talent and they want to trade for him. Talk about a warning sign.
4) The only way I can remotely validate it is to make stuff up in my head – “He’s been sleeping with Mrs Schneider.” “He’s got drunk, called up the commish and left an answer phone message informing him that Pete Carroll calls him ‘that ginger prick’..” “They just took him out of hospital where he nearly died by overdosing on HGH” etc etc
5) He made the same amount of cool plays as Nick Reed, but in actual regular season games and against opposition we weren’t beating by 30+ points at the time.
6) Aside from the players we drafted or traded for with higher picks this year, I would only be more against trading these players for a 5th right now. Carlson, Mebane, Tats, Curry and Trufant. Of the others, there are quite a few I would hate to trade for a 5th, but none more than Wilson.
7) Foilhat’s excellent point regarding the 2012 compensatory pick above invalidates any argument with relation to this being the last year of his contract.
That’s 7, and that’s enough. Sorry for the mini-post rant. Thanks for the Jets-in-the-snow-Holmgren-farewell-to-Quest game in particular Josh. Best of luck in Baltimore.
by JamesMurphy on Aug 31, 2010 6:33 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I'm going to sell all my shares of Quest Software stock in anger
Granted that wouldnt affect the Seahawks at all, and it’s not even the same Qwest that appears on our stadium, but my decision makes about as much sense as this trade.
When I saw the headline that we had traded Wilson to the Ravens, I was anxious to see what we got in return.
aaaannnnddd FUCK. Couldn’t they at least have thrown Willis Mcgahee out of sympathy?
I would have taken 50 pounds of Terrence Cody's ass fat
instead of a conditional fifth round pick. At least we could feed the fat to Terrill and hope he either bulks up or dies.
I think this best describes how I feel
by Scruffy Lefty on Aug 31, 2010 6:35 PM PDT reply actions 15 recs
Yep thats it exactly.
"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."
by the other side on Aug 31, 2010 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions
This is incredible.
Rec’d.
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Rec'd
for accurately showing what happened to us
by ErictheHawksFan on Aug 31, 2010 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions
rec'd
for empathic accuracy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZDUh9yboqI
Your culture is primitive; yet so funky!
by jubelthebear on Aug 31, 2010 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Someone over at Baltimore Beatdown made it even more appropriate
by sticking a Ravens logo on the guy’s head.
Thank you, Walter Jones.
Thank you, Ken Griffey Jr.
Pardon if incorrect form for an outside link....
But here:
Is another look at the deal with a bit of new info.
I’m sure we’ll all be ‘pumped’ after reading it.
by ChucklehutCynic on Aug 31, 2010 6:37 PM PDT reply actions
Just Doug Farrar writing out the bits already quoted in the fanshot below
It was stupid in condensed form it’s still stupid now.
by Thomas Beekers on Aug 31, 2010 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I see now....
It was previously posted.
Apologies.
by ChucklehutCynic on Aug 31, 2010 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Still Dumb
If thewy need him so Badly you get a 2nd or at least a third….not a 5th.
So what happens when jennings get hurt on the first play from scrimmage. Now you have no depth with experience.
yeah
if we’re replacing him with a 4th rounder, why not a 4th round pick in return? This seems like it was more to just get rid of a veteran taking up cap space.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZDUh9yboqI
Your culture is primitive; yet so funky!
by jubelthebear on Aug 31, 2010 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions
One can just hear Schneider
“Oh, yeah, that’s right! No cap this year! Well, golly, I guess Baltimore really got a good deal!”
they better
be making room for Revis goddamit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZDUh9yboqI
Your culture is primitive; yet so funky!
by jubelthebear on Aug 31, 2010 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
naw shyunn!
we don’t know how the CBA is gonna go down.
I got two questions:
1. if it was about cap; then how much was Jennings making or stood to make juxtapose?
2. Who has more interceptions, passes deflected, sacks, pick sixes…etc. Jennings or Wilson?
… fuck…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZDUh9yboqI
Your culture is primitive; yet so funky!
by jubelthebear on Aug 31, 2010 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions
But....
I did think it was interesting from the point of view that it was a non beat writer at the VMAC when it happened. Didn’t see some of the quotes from PC or JS in other locations so thought it was worth a post.
by ChucklehutCynic on Aug 31, 2010 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions
This trade is still stupid.
Toronto FC - Where road games are forfeited and we STILL have no idea how to play from behind.
by SSreporters on Aug 31, 2010 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why yes.....Yes it is
The trade makes no sense for anyone except the Ravens.
by ChucklehutCynic on Aug 31, 2010 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions
This one is hard to swallow..
This just seems downright unjustifiable to me, admittedly I don’t have a football IQ of John Morgan but I don’t think it takes a wiz to see this one stinks.. I’ve been mulling it over for a few hours now and i just can’t see the logic or any redeeming part to this. You’re right Mr. Morgan, the Seahawks just got a lot worse, and alienated more than a few fans
by CurryInAHurry59 on Aug 31, 2010 6:42 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Wilson! ***cough***

WILSOOOON!!!
I’m SORRY!
I’m sorry Wilson
Wilson I’m sorry
I’m sorry!
WILSON!
I can’t
WILSON!
WIIIIIIIILSOOOOOOOON!!!!
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6ig2z_cast-away-lost-wilson-the-movie_shortfilms
/dick joke
by Bloof on Aug 31, 2010 6:48 PM PDT reply actions 7 recs
Cried my ass off at that scene.
But, uh, MINOR SPOILER ALERT…
"Josh Wilson Traded to Baltimore"

by ErictheHawksFan on Aug 31, 2010 6:48 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Saw this on CBS fantasy feed Maybe Hasselbeck and 2 firsts for Leinert
Report: Leinart on trade block
Matt Leinart, QB ARI
News: FOX Sports is reporting the Cardinals have been contacting teams on Tuesday trying to trade QB Matt Leinart, who is losing a battle for the starting QB job to Derek Anderson. It is unknown, however, what Arizona wants in exchange for Leinart.
We don't have two firsts
And there is no reason to trade for Leinart.
Toronto FC - Where road games are forfeited and we STILL have no idea how to play from behind.
We do have 2 first one in 2011 and one in 2012
Sorry you missed the total sarcasm in the original post
I know the sarcasm but we don't have 2 first round picks in 2011
Unless I missed something.
Toronto FC - Where road games are forfeited and we STILL have no idea how to play from behind.
dear god i hope you mean we get two firsts.
7 picks for 7 quarterbacks in Draft 2011! EFF IT!
by Seatown_Sport_Head321 on Aug 31, 2010 7:19 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Two fists actually
Q/PM will personally go to each season ticket holder and give them to ’em. Dry.
Why not?
That would be perfect. Why not sign a guy who couldn’t beat a grocery bagger out of a QB spot? At least he can throw interceptions farther downfield than Hasselbeck – far enough that it would help us keep from utilizing the talents of Jon Ryan.
Fakking perfect. Let’s see if we can get Jamarcus Russell while we’re at it.
/dick joke
I've gone from cautious dread to open dislike.
Congratulations, Schneider and Carroll, on proving your inability to value assets.
Seriously. Upon hearing the news I just went out and ranted at my roommate.
Then subsequently congratulated him for having a good, smart front office for his team (Miami). It seems Schneider and Carrol think they’ll be able to have some sort of stud team after just a few drafts. Which just isn’t doable.
by ungoreatstefan on Aug 31, 2010 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions
Daaaaaamn!
Should have included McGahee with that conditional 5th-rounder. WTF!
Red Bryant: surprise us!
It all makes sense now... Q/PM just couldn't get over those 2 inches...
“One additional factor is that while Wilson is 5-foot-9, Trufant, Jennings, and Thurmond are all 5-foot-11. Former Seahawks GM Tim Ruskell favored smaller cornerbacks, but Schneider comes from Green Bay, where larger defensive backs are the norm.”
It's happened
this team finally broke my brain.
by John Morgan on Aug 31, 2010 7:27 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
I know... it just doesn't make sense
but hey… we did the Ravens a favor… we should feel good about that
Can't we just trade your brain for a 6th?
Toronto FC - Where road games are forfeited and we STILL have no idea how to play from behind.
If he had a bottle of bourbon...
We would be effectively trading it for a fifth
/dick joke
by Bloof on Aug 31, 2010 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Gotta be kidding me....
Schneider:
This was a team that was very aggressive in coming after Josh.
How in the BLOODY HELL is a 5th round pick “very aggressive”, and why the hell did Schneider not smell blood in the water and ask for more?
Did they show up at his doorstep with donuts this morning, or what?
/dick joke
That is how I feel
Maybe they had Maple bars…and Golden Tate was in the office.
Apparently Ozzie Newsome has magical hypnotic powers
From the BaltimoreBeatdown forum:
I honestly think other GM’s are intimidated by Ozzie. He calls them and gives them the info and I feel like guys can’t say no to him. Like the Boldin trade and so on.
By the way, Boldin went for third- and fourth-round pick. And he’ll be 30 in October. And he was in the final year of his contract, too.
I may have sunk the entire Florida peninsula with my unfocused rage
I don’t see why when Baltimore came with their sob story about their decimated secondary that Schneider didn’t counter with how sorry our O-Line is, and by the way, how are contract negotiations coming along with Jared Gaither?
Throw Gaither in with a 4th a maybe I could understand.
A head-case, back-spasmy Gaither is still probably better than 3/5ths of our line right now.
I have to think the coaching staff wants to get bigger at the position.
And felt they would not be willing to pay out a significant contract for a nickle-back – however good he is. I love(d) him, too, but I can understand the move. Even if I don’t want to accept it right now…
Anyone know the ‘conditions’?
Red Bryant: surprise us!
But we still have Kelly Jennings.
Kelly Jennings.
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
What the french, toast?
by Wayward Llama on Aug 31, 2010 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions
This is Kelly, right?

Toronto FC - Where road games are forfeited and we STILL have no idea how to play from behind.
I guess we know he is not returning kicks now
So who is?
Golden? Leon? hopefully not Butler
Craig Terrill!
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
What the french, toast?
by Wayward Llama on Aug 31, 2010 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I hope Pistol fails the physical
Quick, someone hand me a baton.
Toronto FC - Where road games are forfeited and we STILL have no idea how to play from behind.
I like how you think.
"Oh, the usual. I bowl. Drive around. The occasional acid flashback."
by the other side on Aug 31, 2010 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I shall sacrifice short-term injury for long term success
I’m harming him for the good of the team!
Toronto FC - Where road games are forfeited and we STILL have no idea how to play from behind.
Maybe they are just TRYING to lose as much as possible so we can get Locker
I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul - Invictus
Locker
That’s the good news about this trade. We just became front runners in the Jake Locker sweepstakes. Now we just need to trade Mebane for a conditional 6th round pick.
Losing a nickel corner
means we are now the worst team in the league? We must have been damn close before this trade then.
At least we got Thurmond....right?
Right?
I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul - Invictus
Brutal
Just when I am trying to convince myself that the new management isn’t as crazy as I think they are… they go and do this! Hopefully they know something we don’t….. that would make it better………….
from wisconsin,
I think I am going to pull for baltimore this year.
This is exactly why
San Diego would only let the Seahawks talk to VJax. It is obvious that the Hawks can be easily worked.
Without
a doubt the dumbest, most brain-dead idiotic mother****ing trade made by this team in recent memory.
What? No SOUL?

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