Bill Leavy apologizes to the Seahawks for Super Bowl XL
I still want your entire family to die of Multiple Sclerosis. On your birthday. In your favorite restaurant.
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Holy shit.
How am I going to continue to vilify someone who apologized so profusely?
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Nope, it’s still there.
by DJ C-Raig on Aug 6, 2010 8:45 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Just blogged about this...
“I kicked two calls in the fourth quarter and I impacted the game and as an official”
Somehow, this has made me EVEN ANGRIER about XL…
"I hate to break it to you, but there is no big lie, there is no system, the universe is indifferent." -Don Draper
by Johnny Peel (DKSB) on Aug 6, 2010 8:50 PM PDT reply actions
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Nick Garcia is the Brian Russell of MLS but 10 times worse.
by SSreporters on Aug 6, 2010 9:16 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Same typical Steeler fan comments
Blah blah blah Steelers played great blah blah blah calls didn’t make a difference. The calls always make a difference, if the Phantom PI wasn’t called, we’re up 7-0. Or if the Phantom Holding wasn’t called, there is no INT and “illegal block” call on the next play, and no gadget play following that.
I don't think that Steelers fans are saying that the calls had literally no effect on the game
by DrunkAmerican on Aug 7, 2010 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I am guessing you haven't talking to many Stealers fans over the years.
OOOOOH!!!!! That was NASTY!!!!!!!!
You're probably right about that
But I find it immature to write other fans off as being incapable of understanding basic facts.
by DrunkAmerican on Aug 7, 2010 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions
In the face of how many data points?
It’s not just fans, it’s everyone. People are dumb, Drunky, I need hardly tell you.
inside of a dog it's too dark to read.
Thing is, nobody who hasn't had a game of that magnitude taken from them by poor officiating
will ever understand what it feels like to be in that situation. Utterly helpless and frustrated, then devastated in the aftermath. I posted the story on my Facebook, and a friend of mine (a reformed Steeler fan) basically said “I would tell you to get over it, but then I remember the Bucs [his other team] got jobbed in ’99, so I know the feeling.”
I don’t think anything short of a Lombardi trophy is going to heal this wound. And who knows how long that’ll be.
FG's second favorite football-illiterate semi-troll.
I think I'm finally ready to stop talking about this now
People try to perform their jobs at the best of their ability, and inevitably there will be failures. Sometimes those failures don’t matter in the grand scheme of things, and sometimes they have undue influence on the outcome of a championship. What else can you say beyond “fuck the universe and the football gods for letting this happen to us and not someone else”?
This admission of guilt is a day late, a dollar short, and more than a little unspecific. But it’s the closest thing to an asterisk that we’re going to get attached to the Steelers’ XL victory. With that realization, I’m going to stop dredging this up. This is sorrow I will now bear in silence.
"Have a good time all the time" - Viv Savage, Spinal Tap
by HawksFanHernandez on Aug 8, 2010 10:40 AM PDT reply actions
I think it's about as much as we're going to get.
And a fitting quota as this team appears to finally be turning the corner.
It was the second play in a row that he was either offsides or close.
I remember thinking I was the only one who saw that. No one said anything on TV, no one I read online noticed it.
I'll just leave this here...
As opposing quarterbacks crouched under center, Lambert pumped his legs up and down, thumping the turf like a war drum. He mouthed threats to opposing running backs that would make even the most hardened Catholic nun weep for humanity. He fulfilled those threats with coldblooded suplex tackles. He may or may not have chain-smoked at halftime, depending on who you ask.
For sixty minutes each Sunday, Jack Lambert was a demon.
That's an impressive neon green line.
But what am I looking at here?
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Aug 11, 2010 3:37 AM PDT up reply actions
A picture of a pretty damn obvious NOT offsides Clark Haggans
Oh yes, watch the video just up there. Actually here, wait, I’ll repost it here, so you don’t have to scroll up.
This^ is the “phantom” holding call. Locklear is BEHIND Haggans. I’m not sure where you boys are looking, but that damn sure looks like a hold to me.
Thank you for posting that, Robert (original poster/commenter). Now we can see for sure that it was, in fact, the proper call, and you should not have been 1 yard from a TD.
As opposing quarterbacks crouched under center, Lambert pumped his legs up and down, thumping the turf like a war drum. He mouthed threats to opposing running backs that would make even the most hardened Catholic nun weep for humanity. He fulfilled those threats with coldblooded suplex tackles. He may or may not have chain-smoked at halftime, depending on who you ask.
For sixty minutes each Sunday, Jack Lambert was a demon.
Once again...
As opposing quarterbacks crouched under center, Lambert pumped his legs up and down, thumping the turf like a war drum. He mouthed threats to opposing running backs that would make even the most hardened Catholic nun weep for humanity. He fulfilled those threats with coldblooded suplex tackles. He may or may not have chain-smoked at halftime, depending on who you ask.
For sixty minutes each Sunday, Jack Lambert was a demon.
You do know that the D can move all they want
As long as they don’t cross the line of scrimmage before the ball moves, right?
That still is a nanosecond before the ball is snapped. It’s almost like he and Hampton knew the snap count.
As opposing quarterbacks crouched under center, Lambert pumped his legs up and down, thumping the turf like a war drum. He mouthed threats to opposing running backs that would make even the most hardened Catholic nun weep for humanity. He fulfilled those threats with coldblooded suplex tackles. He may or may not have chain-smoked at halftime, depending on who you ask.
For sixty minutes each Sunday, Jack Lambert was a demon.
So let me get this straight...
A neon green line which is not parallel to the actual position of the ball is supposed to exonerate someone of a wrong doing?
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Aug 11, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
A yellow circle can prove somehow of a wrong doing though...
Oh momma I'm in fear for my life from the long arm of the law
Lawman has put an end to my running and I'm so far from my home
Oh momma I can hear you a'crying you're so scared and all alone
Hangman is comin' down from the gallows and I don't have very
long
If Troy, Harrison and Woodley are on top of their game, that is good for 9 wins right there, regardless of what is going on with their offense. - Mr MaLoR 28/6/10
by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Aug 11, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, except that's not at all what we're talking about in this subthread.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Aug 11, 2010 11:32 PM PDT up reply actions
true, but I thought it was appropriate to point this out to you guys...
Oh momma I'm in fear for my life from the long arm of the law
Lawman has put an end to my running and I'm so far from my home
Oh momma I can hear you a'crying you're so scared and all alone
Hangman is comin' down from the gallows and I don't have very
long
If Troy, Harrison and Woodley are on top of their game, that is good for 9 wins right there, regardless of what is going on with their offense. - Mr MaLoR 28/6/10
by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Aug 12, 2010 12:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Did he say specifically?
I thought he just said that he “kicked a couple” of calls in the fourth quarter. I didn’t think he said anything in particular.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Aug 15, 2010 11:43 PM PDT up reply actions
He said two fourth quarter calls.
One of which is without a doubt the low block call because holy what the fuck? The holding call is likely the other, but you’re right he doesn’t call it out specifically.
Found him
Come now, that was hardly a challenge. Expect more next time.
by Thomas Beekers on Aug 15, 2010 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Can you see the nose of the ball there where the green line is?
Go ahead and get out your ruler and measure both ends of the line. Match it to the 20 yard line, which is clearly visible on both left side and the bottom of the picture. It is a straight line, running in front of the nose of the football.
As you can plainly see, Haggans is still behind the line when the ball is snapped. Therefore, no offsides, no neutral zone infraction, no encroachment, nothing.
Haggans got a good jump on the play, Locklear couldn’t block him, and so had to resort to holding. Which, in turn, demands a 10 yard penalty, and a replay of the down.
I don’t get why this is so hard for you to understand…
As opposing quarterbacks crouched under center, Lambert pumped his legs up and down, thumping the turf like a war drum. He mouthed threats to opposing running backs that would make even the most hardened Catholic nun weep for humanity. He fulfilled those threats with coldblooded suplex tackles. He may or may not have chain-smoked at halftime, depending on who you ask.
For sixty minutes each Sunday, Jack Lambert was a demon.
You're trying to apply a two dimensional special effect to a three dimensional image.
And at a weird angle. A sideline shot would be more helpful.
The line also is not even remotely parallel with the yard lines. Tilt your head slightly and tell me that thing is meeting the same two points along the same plane.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Aug 11, 2010 11:33 PM PDT up reply actions
It's an optical illusion
Lay a ruler along the line. It’s straighter than Broadway on Capital Hill. Well, from the college to down a little past Dicks’ Burgers, anyway.
Is Dicks’ Burger joint still there? I always found it fun to walk down the gay street and yell out “Man, I think I smell Dicks!” or, “Boy, I’m really hungry for some Dicks right about now!” There was another one too…Down 45th, from University Avenue, if I’m not mistaken…
As opposing quarterbacks crouched under center, Lambert pumped his legs up and down, thumping the turf like a war drum. He mouthed threats to opposing running backs that would make even the most hardened Catholic nun weep for humanity. He fulfilled those threats with coldblooded suplex tackles. He may or may not have chain-smoked at halftime, depending on who you ask.
For sixty minutes each Sunday, Jack Lambert was a demon.
The optical illusion is that it's straight.
Dick’s still exists. Though I wouldn’t know. I don’t live in Seattle.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Aug 12, 2010 3:42 AM PDT up reply actions
I disagree
Dick. :)
As opposing quarterbacks crouched under center, Lambert pumped his legs up and down, thumping the turf like a war drum. He mouthed threats to opposing running backs that would make even the most hardened Catholic nun weep for humanity. He fulfilled those threats with coldblooded suplex tackles. He may or may not have chain-smoked at halftime, depending on who you ask.
For sixty minutes each Sunday, Jack Lambert was a demon.
Hi guys.
Please don’t troll other blogs. It doesn’t really matter how passive it might seem, we don’t need to do that. Thank you.
by BrianL on Aug 9, 2010 11:25 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Seriously, time to let it go...
I am caught between two worlds on this one. Let me apologize for the length before you read, and explain. I grew up in Pennsylvania, where my Dad was a die-had Penn State fan. So, even though we lived outside of Pittsburgh, the Nittany Lions were his team. I liked the Steelers, especially Franco Harris because he was like us, part Italian and part another nationality (his other was African, mine Russian). My favorite player from Penn State was Curt Warner. Oh how I loved Curt! He killed all the over hyped Heisman backs head to head, MIke Rozier, Marcus Allen and Herschel Walker (when PSU won the National Title!)
So, when Seattle drafted Warner, I became a Seahawks fan. Like automatically. I made my Dad (much to his dismay) order me a # 28 “jersey” from the Sears catalog, along with a Seahawks painter cap (that looked like the helmet, you know the one!) People in PA thought I was…weird. The next season the Steelers released my favorite player, Franco, and of course he signed with Seattle. It was done. I was a fan. I followed Kenny Easley, Jacob Green, Dave Krieg (one of my favorites), John L. Williams, Dave Brown and of course Steve Largent. What I’m trying to illustrate, I have been a fan for awhile. Regardless of being (at the time) 3,000 miles away.
In the 90s, when I eventually attended Penn State, I started following the Steelers more seriously, because as I did my laundry they were the only team we got in the student lounge without cable. But I couldn’t escape Seattle. Many of my favorite ex-Steelers, Chad Brown, Levon Kirkland and Willie Williams, went there.
So, when SB XL happened, I was actually upset! I wanted the Steelers to win, but then here were Seattle, who never had been this close, except in 1984 when they lost the AFC Championship in LA. I felt whomever won, it would be alright.
Then, that Steeler hater, fat Madden (and do not even try to deny that one) kept pointing out ticky tacky calls. A push off that was indeed that. An offsides that was that as well. F#ck!ng Madden, I kept cursing! The Ben TD? Sure, it more than likely WAS NOT a TD, but they reviewed it. What more can you ask? I know before Big Rapist threw that nearly pick six, Pittsburgh should have been up 21-3, game over. HE made it 14-10 after that pathetic pick. Thing is, Willie Parker was UNTOUCHED on that TD, the trick play was legit, as was the INT by Hasselbum in the endzone. Plus, Holmgren’s time management was a JOKE that game, before both halfs. So, thing is, there were bad calls (the “clip” by Hasselbeck, and sure, the Ben TD). But in the end, Alexander was a no show, big mouth Stevens dropped damn near everything thrown his way and Hasselbeck (shock) threw a game killing INT.
That’s my honest take. Worst, sloppiest SB ever played? Worst one I ever watched. I hear SB V sucked, but I was not born yet. Did Seattle get hosed? Sure, to an extent. Did they deserve to win? No. Sorry, and that is from a fan that is more emotionally removed because of coastal duality.
Not for naught, my wife and I moved to Washington state (where she is from) briefly in 2007, and are now here again (hopefully to stay). I have been to Qwest, the Pro shop for signings (got my Bobby Engram autos-Penn State!!) and went to training camp this year (Deon Butler, baby-Penn State!!) I do indeed love the Hawks, from their classic logo and uniforms to the new, funky lime green accented ones. I also can no longer root for a team that employs a serial rapist, sorry.
So, blast me if you want, it’s OK. I am being impartial here. Games are not well officiated, which is a shame. Things happen, but five years after the fact, and most of the country perceives you as bitter and whiny. Sorry, it’s the truth. Please, Seattle, we are great fans, and better than this. I know it hurts, because it took so long to get there, and then it felt like it was stolen. But truth is, the team’s play lost the game, not the refs.
We're going to get the ball, and we're gonna score...
by DeonButler_WE ARE_PENN STATE on Aug 11, 2010 2:01 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
RE: Seriously, time to let it go...
WE DID… for the most part. Then this jackass comes along and APOLOGIZES for it. You see, before this, we could make the conspiracy theories and groan about it all we want, but we knew that there was a huge possibility that it had nothing to do with the refs and we were just fooling ourselves.
But Leavy admitting mistakes takes the speculation and the fooling of ourselves completely out of the picture. Even the most ardent defender of the refereeing now looks like an imbecile because of this. Hatred has been rekindled when most of us had moved on.
BURN THE WITCH!
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Aug 11, 2010 3:41 AM PDT up reply actions
RE: Serial Rapist
Don’t want to rehash this too much but:
- Ben has never been charged of rape
- Ben has been accused of rape once, that doesn’t make him serial.
Serial accused sexual predator = yes
Serial rapist = no
Oh momma I'm in fear for my life from the long arm of the law
Lawman has put an end to my running and I'm so far from my home
Oh momma I can hear you a'crying you're so scared and all alone
Hangman is comin' down from the gallows and I don't have very
long
If Troy, Harrison and Woodley are on top of their game, that is good for 9 wins right there, regardless of what is going on with their offense. - Mr MaLoR 28/6/10
by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Aug 11, 2010 5:03 PM PDT up reply actions
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How Much Did Super Bowl XL’s Officiating Affect The Outcome?
Whether you believe any or all of these calls were bad is a mostly matter of opinion. But the assertion that had the calls gone the other way, the outcome of the game would have been unaffected or only slightly affected is grossly mistaken.
The fact that SEA was even in position to take the lead in the 4th quarter was remarkable. Early in the 3rd quarter, PIT had a 14-3 lead with a 1st down on SEA’s 11 yard line. SEA managed to force a turnover, score a TD, then get the ball back to take the upper hand early in the 4th quarter. Had they managed to win, it would have been one of the most improbable comebacks in Super Bowl history.
However
were they in fact bad calls?
I can think of a fair few that went against the Steelers that day…
Oh momma I'm in fear for my life from the long arm of the law
Lawman has put an end to my running and I'm so far from my home
Oh momma I can hear you a'crying you're so scared and all alone
Hangman is comin' down from the gallows and I don't have very
long
If Troy, Harrison and Woodley are on top of their game, that is good for 9 wins right there, regardless of what is going on with their offense. - Mr MaLoR 28/6/10
by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Aug 11, 2010 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Not a Seahawks fan.
Gonna say yes, having seen the game more than once. I don’t know that the Seahawks win if the game is fairly called, but they have a better chance. Whoever won that game I don’t think would have won a legitimately called championship game, but the Steelers had less horribleness to overcome.
Well this comment thread is a clusterfuck.
Thanks, Bill Leavy.
Where'd my present go?
Not trying to cause offence with it, I didn’t make it. I just happened to find it funny and it was relevant.
I’m not saying the 05 Steelers were unbeatable but we played better than you on the day, we made more splash plays and in the end scored more points than you. Officiating will always be a hot point in football and every team receives it’s fair share of bad calls (apart from the pats).
Xbox Live Gamertag - IMIeursault currently MW2 and Madden 11.
If Troy, Harrison and Woodley are on top of their game, that is good for 9 wins right there, regardless of what is going on with their offense. - Mr MaLoR 28/6/10
by Josh Roberts (ESGB) on Aug 12, 2010 12:38 PM PDT reply actions
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Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Aug 12, 2010 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it's about time to close this thread entirely.
Since all it’s done is invite people to attempt cross-blog arguments that haven’t gone over very well.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Aug 13, 2010 2:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh Robert...
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Aug 15, 2010 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
Seriously, are we still talking about this?
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What the french, toast?
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