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Who to watch: Cowboys

#23 Tashard Choice

One of the best backup running backs in the NFL.

#68 Doug Free

Free is set to replace Flozell Adams. It's a gamble, and an interesting one.

#36 Mike Hamlin

One of many fringe safety prospects that caught my eye during the dark days of Brian Russell.

#14 Terrell Hudgins

Hudgins has one of the greatest nicknames ever: Shakespeare.

#3 Jon Kitna

Boy was teenage me ever wrong about this guy.

#69 Sean Lissemore

One of the many intriguing defensive tackles in 2010's loaded class.

#35 Lonyae Miller

Stocky feature back type, built to rule the preseason.

#76 Sam Young

See if you agree that Sam Young is indeed awful.

Note: Akwasi Owusu-Ansah and Sean Lee are unlikely to play.

Who to watch: Bengals

#97 Geno Atkins

A single-gap tackle prospect I've tracked for going on three years. More potential than production.

#88 Dezmon Briscoe

Promising athlete but bulky and slow. He's young, and has a chance to reinvent his game.

#87 Andre Caldwell

One of my favorite receiver prospects from 2008, Caldwell is slowly earning a roll within the Bengals offense.

#80 Chase Coffman

Once upon a time top tight end prospect that has to contribute as a pro. This is a big preseason for Coffman.

#96 Carlos Dunlap

Will be interesting to see if Dunlap is this year's Calais Campbell.

#21 Brandon Ghee

Tools prospect at corner with emerging skills.

#93 Michael Johnson

Tools-goof end that is currently listed at linebacker.

#58 Rey Maualuga

#56 Roddrick Muckelroy

Skilled linebacker with so-so tools.

#30 Cedric Peerman

Speed rusher and return man devalued because of small hands.

#55 Keith Rivers

#11 Jordan Shipley

One of those receivers that could overcome so-so tools with exceptional skills.

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I am leaving in a few to housesit

And watch the game in glorious HD. Oh my heavens it rocks.

Nick Garcia is the Brian Russell of MLS but 10 times worse.

by SSreporters on Aug 8, 2010 4:56 PM PDT reply actions  

Caved and bought gamepass for the whole season

I gotta admit, at 280 USD that’s a great package for my European ass. Even got different commentary feeds in if you want em.

What’s that? Oh yeah

FOOTBALL

by Thomas Beekers on Aug 8, 2010 4:58 PM PDT reply actions  

TO is an asshole

The way Chad hesitated, I’m sure he was caught by surprise. He didn’t want contradict Owens after they’d just finished talking up their lovey-dovey teammate status, so he was forced to play along.

by Jason_D on Aug 9, 2010 8:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Errr

You guys do know Chad came up with the Batman and Robin moniker, and has been calling TO Batman from the start, right?

by Thomas Beekers on Aug 9, 2010 8:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Did not know

I stand corrected. I just thought Chad was awfully hesitant.

And the whole “Batman & Robin” thing doesn’t really fit— Chad is every bit as much an elite receiver.

And I can’t edit my post, so I guess I’ll just have to hope that Owens does something assholish to justify my name-calling. Don’t let me down, TO!

by Jason_D on Aug 9, 2010 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

John what do you make of this
According to SI.com’s Jim Trotter, “observers contend” that J.P. Losman is beating out Charlie Whitehurst to be the Seahawks’ No. 2 quarterback.
Whitehurst’s draft-weekend acquisition is already looking like a bust, and first-year GM John Schneider may draw the brunt of the blame. Either way, it’s become clearer and clearer daily that Matt Hasselbeck’s starting job is safe.

Seems from your reports that the opposite is true.

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by bluemax on Aug 8, 2010 5:19 PM PDT reply actions  

Here's a link

Link

49ers fans I know are sending this my way to mock Pete etc.

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by bluemax on Aug 8, 2010 5:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don't miss the commerical break-kickoff-another commercial break sequence

Way to ruin the momentum of good football, every TV network broadcasting NFL games.

by J.L. White on Aug 8, 2010 5:25 PM PDT reply actions  

It's much better with NFL Gamepass

They’ve been doing all sorts of screwy things with commercials. First not airing them, then airing them without audio, then with delayed audio. They’re back to mute now. It’s pretty funny.

by Sander on Aug 8, 2010 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bengals would have audibled in the regular season

That’s a good example of how the preseason is so different.

by John Morgan on Aug 8, 2010 5:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Footbaw!

- Not enough hashmarks on the field in Canton
- Even in the preseason I hate the fucking Cowboys
- Hope nobody gets hurt in this, the most meaningless of games
- A frozen train carrying only Coors Light would suck

by lemonverbena on Aug 8, 2010 5:31 PM PDT reply actions  

Carson Palmer <3 TO

Florio is breaking out in cold sweat imagining all the nonsense stories that can be made out of this

by Thomas Beekers on Aug 8, 2010 5:42 PM PDT reply actions  

Why talk about Dez Bryant

Does anyone really think that he didn’t know that carry pads was a standard hazing exercise? Really, you didn’t know? Seriously.

by stufr on Aug 8, 2010 5:51 PM PDT reply actions  

Would it be weird if Zimmer had a huge smile on his face when Michaels & Collingsworth were talking about his dead wife?

I mean, it’s not like he knows that they his dead wife was being discussed right at that moment, or anything.

by J.L. White on Aug 8, 2010 5:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Holy shit.

Randy Johnson looked relaxed.

by John Morgan on Aug 8, 2010 5:59 PM PDT reply actions  

I love that add

Not as much as the drill sgt one, but its still good.

by stufr on Aug 8, 2010 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Aborted roll out

Preparing to see a lot of that.

by John Morgan on Aug 8, 2010 6:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Tez > Randle

No disrespect to the former Seahawk and new HOFer, but that’s the first thing I think about when I see him.

by J.L. White on Aug 8, 2010 6:03 PM PDT reply actions  

That intentional ground call was baffling.

He was a good 5 yards out of the pocket.

"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM

by Nick Andron on Aug 8, 2010 6:08 PM PDT reply actions  

He always seemed mediocre in college

the few times I watched him. Usually when aTm was losing to Texas.

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by bluemax on Aug 8, 2010 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

But then it would be a 100 pound coach

A little coach with little hands. Doesn’t that frighten you?

by stufr on Aug 8, 2010 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE A MIDGET COACH

Ahem…I mean “little person” coach. But it sure would be funny to see a little guy trying to coach a huge offensive lineman.

by J.L. White on Aug 8, 2010 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

What could a little person do to you? Stab your ankles?

I love the idea of a little guy running down the sidelines and yelling at a ref, or standing one a milkcrate during a press conference. There are dozens of hilarious possibilities here folks!

by J.L. White on Aug 8, 2010 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Have you seen pet cemetary

It may have been a reborn devil kid, but he cut the guy’s achillies

by stufr on Aug 8, 2010 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nope

I guess I’m not sufficiently traumatized to be afraid of little people. Bummer.

by J.L. White on Aug 8, 2010 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

great movie

you will never walk next to a bed again though

by stufr on Aug 8, 2010 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Rent "Leprechaun".

Trauma will find you. And not just because of pre-nose job J. Aniston.

inside of a dog it's too dark to read.

by shams on Aug 8, 2010 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great movie

though the third one is the best with the limric kills.

by Built2Spill on Aug 8, 2010 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

Totally.

Skip the even numbered Leps and you’re gold.

inside of a dog it's too dark to read.

by shams on Aug 8, 2010 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

"The good in you is better than the worst in most"

That says nothing.

inside of a dog it's too dark to read.

by shams on Aug 8, 2010 6:16 PM PDT reply actions  

great run

That took almost no skill from the running back

by stufr on Aug 8, 2010 6:26 PM PDT reply actions  

I would say that is the biggest factor in our season right now

I think we are within a competitive margin of margin of AZ and SF. Injuries will be the biggest factor.

by stufr on Aug 8, 2010 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its fine if the cut down to 2 preseason

You just sacrifice some of the fringe guys who could win spots on the team

by stufr on Aug 8, 2010 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right.

But that’s a bad thing. No?

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Aug 8, 2010 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah

how many games during week 16 and 17 matter?

by stufr on Aug 8, 2010 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Depends.

How many are trying to win the wild card?

I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul - Invictus

by EequalsMc2 on Aug 8, 2010 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

someone should look it up

I’m guessing about one or two teams a year

by stufr on Aug 8, 2010 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

What?

Tons of teams are usually within spitting distance.

by MT Olson on Aug 8, 2010 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

It feels like that

But how many are really within a realistic chance against teams that are still playing their starters.
I think it will just shift the week when the season starts. The end will be the same.

by stufr on Aug 8, 2010 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

There are 4 wildcard spots.

Last year both AFC spots were won by 9-7 teams, with 6 teams within two games of that.

The NFC was much neater, with only 1 team within two games of the two wildcard spots at 11-5.

It depends on the year, obviously, but it’s safe to say that 2 games could make a very realistic difference.

by MT Olson on Aug 8, 2010 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

very true

seeding would definitely be effected. I think it would just shift when we knew who made it in. Similar outcomes.

by stufr on Aug 8, 2010 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, give it a few years and I doubt we'd even know the difference.

I think the transition might rough though. I’m imagining a team in 1st place losing their last two games and missing the playoffs in that first year, then raising a shitstorm because in every other year they were very clearly “in”.

by MT Olson on Aug 8, 2010 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah; is there really much of a difference between 16 regular season games + 4 preseason games with 18 + 2?

20 games is still 20 games. For the record, I’m split on this issue and would be okay with the change just as much as keeping things the way they are.

by J.L. White on Aug 8, 2010 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh, I think so.

It changes the season’s dynamic, IMO. Regular season games are played differently, right? Take tonight’s game vs. what we’ll see once September gets here.

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Aug 8, 2010 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

The 18-game season is coming, good idea or no

There is no way the owners voluntarily give up the revenue they get from having 10 home games, regardless of whether one or two of them are pretend games.

by lemonverbena on Aug 8, 2010 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

1 preseason + 9 regular

I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul - Invictus

by EequalsMc2 on Aug 8, 2010 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

10

Counting preseason

by stufr on Aug 8, 2010 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Right now there are 16 games plus 4 pre-season

thats 10 home games. They charge the same no matter if they count or not. This is their way of justifying ticket price for games that really don’t matter.

by stufr on Aug 8, 2010 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

And thus, by changing 2 of those preseason games to regular season games

More fans would buy more tickets because those are the games that can possibly matter more than just where backups play half the game.

I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul - Invictus

by EequalsMc2 on Aug 8, 2010 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think if the League is smart

they’ll throw the players a bone and add another bye week for all teams. It won’t reduce the risk of big injuries in those two extra games, but it’d cut down on the wear and tear a bit.

Thank you, Walter Jones.
Thank you, Ken Griffey Jr.

by thebyron on Aug 8, 2010 9:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

And I'm back

Oh how I missed watching JT O’Sullivan play football.

Nick Garcia is the Brian Russell of MLS but 10 times worse.

by SSreporters on Aug 8, 2010 6:54 PM PDT reply actions  

Wonder what it will take to get Marv canned

I thought the playoff loss should’ve done it.

Nick Garcia is the Brian Russell of MLS but 10 times worse.

by SSreporters on Aug 8, 2010 6:58 PM PDT reply actions  

Getting the Bengals into the playoffs might have actually earned him an extension

Not saying he deserves it, but it’s not like the Bengals make the playoffs as easily as the Colts, or anything.

by J.L. White on Aug 8, 2010 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the Bengals overachieved last year

They’re like the 2006 Seahawks only the Bengals had a strong running game and a so-so to mediocre passing attack.

After the playoff game I was fully expecting Cincy to draft a QB.

Nick Garcia is the Brian Russell of MLS but 10 times worse.

by SSreporters on Aug 8, 2010 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Forget T.O. and Ochocinco

That team has a rap sheet a mile long. I can’t imagine he’s able to keep it together again.

I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.

by Dukeshire on Aug 8, 2010 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

God have mercy on your soul, Carson

I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul - Invictus

by EequalsMc2 on Aug 8, 2010 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Andre Smith must be giving them major headaches

It’s amazing how he’s snowed under in Team Misfit.

by Thomas Beekers on Aug 8, 2010 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd love to be Michael Cera

He gets to play the same character in every movie he’s in.

Sort of like Lee Ermey from Full Metal Jacket.

Nick Garcia is the Brian Russell of MLS but 10 times worse.

by SSreporters on Aug 8, 2010 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

And he fucked Ellen Page; Success!

I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul - Invictus

by EequalsMc2 on Aug 8, 2010 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh jeez, he's just so gosh-darned modest and shy

He’d hate to overshadow the other actors by actually being good.

by J.L. White on Aug 8, 2010 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or Kevin Costner

In every movie he has ever been in

by stufr on Aug 8, 2010 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lee Ermey wasn't acting

He is just being him
Except when he kissed Jack Black. that was just wierd

by stufr on Aug 8, 2010 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

He actually played my grandpa

It was awesome
I know some people connect with private pile or some of the others, but I had hear most of the statements by the drill sgt by the time I was 12

by stufr on Aug 8, 2010 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Steve Carell, Will Farrell...

There are a few actors that get away with this because they’re niche is awesome.

by MT Olson on Aug 8, 2010 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Will Farrell is a genius

Zoolander
thats all I have to say

by stufr on Aug 8, 2010 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Um...those guys are actually talented comedians/comedic actors

Don’t downgrade their talent just because some/most of their choices in roles have been shitty.

by J.L. White on Aug 8, 2010 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Office.

That’s all I have to say

I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul - Invictus

by EequalsMc2 on Aug 8, 2010 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I did call them awesome.

And they are exceptional at what they do. But that does tend to be the same thing on repeat.

by MT Olson on Aug 8, 2010 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'd say Robert Z'Dar

Or, dare I suggest it…

Pierre Kirby?!

by Thomas Beekers on Aug 8, 2010 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

SIGN COUTU!!!!

He needs the money.

Nick Garcia is the Brian Russell of MLS but 10 times worse.

by SSreporters on Aug 8, 2010 7:08 PM PDT reply actions  

This game is absolutely riveting

Welcome to the football season.

Field Gulls: my anti-PFT.

by PRIDEin253 on Aug 8, 2010 7:14 PM PDT reply actions  

I'm just glad football is back

The World Cup ending began my NFL withdrawal.

Nick Garcia is the Brian Russell of MLS but 10 times worse.

by SSreporters on Aug 8, 2010 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wish he was still with San Francisco

He gave Pistol his first pick 6.

Nick Garcia is the Brian Russell of MLS but 10 times worse.

by SSreporters on Aug 8, 2010 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Heh

Remember when he was actually being hyped as a possible future answer at the QB position for the Niners, before the 2008 season?

by Thomas Beekers on Aug 8, 2010 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I remember that

Then we gave the Niners false hope by allowing him to beat us that year before he could show he sucks again.

Nick Garcia is the Brian Russell of MLS but 10 times worse.

by SSreporters on Aug 8, 2010 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

He is the answer

for any kitschy chain restaurant with goofy shit all over the walls that is looking for a name.

Field Gulls: my anti-PFT.

by PRIDEin253 on Aug 8, 2010 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

I find myself dozing off

Before Jordan Palmer wakes me up by converting 3rd & 17.

Wait whaaaa?

by Thomas Beekers on Aug 8, 2010 7:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Whoa you're an author now?

Awesome. We’ll hate you forever if you ever ban Robert.

Nick Garcia is the Brian Russell of MLS but 10 times worse.

by SSreporters on Aug 8, 2010 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks

Joined DJ C-Raig to keep the latest news up on the FG front page. Couldn’t ban people if I wanted to (which I don’t :P)

by Thomas Beekers on Aug 8, 2010 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

Jesus Christ

That PFT commercial with Mike Florio makes me want to hang myself

Field Gulls: my anti-PFT.

by PRIDEin253 on Aug 8, 2010 7:37 PM PDT reply actions  

I don't think NBC Sports reads PFT

They seem to think Florio does analysis. I’ve never seen him analyze anything. Milk it for drama, sure, but analyze?

by Thomas Beekers on Aug 8, 2010 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ugh

Fumble frenzy tonight. Preseason at its finest.

Nick Garcia is the Brian Russell of MLS but 10 times worse.

by SSreporters on Aug 8, 2010 7:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Haww, I was just thinking the same

“Man, that effort may have won them the game! … Wait, who cares if they win the game?”

by Thomas Beekers on Aug 8, 2010 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey an actual touchdown!

Palmer seemed ripe for another pick.

Nick Garcia is the Brian Russell of MLS but 10 times worse.

by SSreporters on Aug 8, 2010 7:51 PM PDT reply actions  

A touchdown?!

I almost feared I would grow old and die before that happened.

Great ST play sets up for an easy runback.

by Thomas Beekers on Aug 8, 2010 7:52 PM PDT reply actions  

Call me an optimist

But I think Seattle can go 3-1 before the bye week.

Nick Garcia is the Brian Russell of MLS but 10 times worse.

by SSreporters on Aug 8, 2010 7:56 PM PDT reply actions  

It's not unpossible

Rams and a crippled Broncos teams makes 2 wins well possible.

I’d love to see us beat the Niners in week 1. I’ve never felt much divisional rivalry in the NFC West but I’m starting to foster some delicious animosity towards the Niners.

by Thomas Beekers on Aug 8, 2010 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm glad we're getting into Washington state geography here

“Eastern Washington is in the Palouse, right?”

Field Gulls: my anti-PFT.

by PRIDEin253 on Aug 8, 2010 8:02 PM PDT reply actions  

Jordan Shipley is such a weird athlete

I don’t think he could do that in the regular season, but I think he could make a good receiver.

by John Morgan on Aug 8, 2010 8:16 PM PDT reply actions  

Ooooh Vikings/49ers

Let’s see how many times Smith gets sacked during his 3 series.

Nick Garcia is the Brian Russell of MLS but 10 times worse.

by SSreporters on Aug 8, 2010 8:19 PM PDT reply actions  

"I'd like to touch his hair."

Thanks Collinsworth for creeping me out.

Nick Garcia is the Brian Russell of MLS but 10 times worse.

by SSreporters on Aug 8, 2010 8:20 PM PDT reply actions  

HAWKS!

Thank you, Walter Jones.
Thank you, Ken Griffey Jr.

by thebyron on Aug 8, 2010 9:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know I'm late to the party, but just wondering if Caldwell ever earned his roll.

I mean, how long before he just goes down to the bakery and gets one himself? Maybe he should ask Tate for advice.

by djafrot on Aug 8, 2010 11:33 PM PDT reply actions  

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