College Football: Open Thread
by John Morgan on Sep 25, 2010 12:27 PM PDT
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PrintEveryone is sour on Jake Locker. I'm totally cool with that. Locker tanking his senior season is one of a host of contingencies that could land Locker in Seattle. Another includes Ryan Mallett playing well enough to declare and well enough to overtake Locker as the top overall prospect.
Mallett and the Arkansas Razorbacks host the Crimson Tide. He had his worst game of the 2009 season in Tuscaloosa, completing 34.3% of his passes for 160 yards and throwing a pick. What does it say when Malett's worst game as a sophomore, a game played on the road against the future national champion, was a heck of a lot better than Locker's third game of his senior season?
It says the Locker Sweepstakes is alive and annoying.
Teams in need of a quarterback
Oakland Raiders (1-1): Oakland benched Jason Campbell. The Raiders might be wary of taking another splash with a first-round quarterback, but from a need perspective, they're still in the hunt. Even a serviceable season from Bruce Gradkowksi would be enough to discourage them from taking another high-risk, toolsy quarterback prospect.
Jacksonville Jaguars (1-1): David Garrard is struggling and the coaching staff and city seem to be losing faith in him.
Kansas City Chiefs (2-0): The Chiefs continue to improve but Matt Cassel is bad as ever. I think Todd Haley and Charlie Weis would prefer someone like Andrew Luck or Christian Ponder.
Cleveland Browns (0-2): Seneca Wallace is starting this week's game for the Browns.
Buffalo Bills (0-2): Buffalo wishes it was starting Wallace.
San Francisco 49ers (0-2): Alex Smith bounced back from his miserable showing in Seattle with a still pretty crappy showing against the Saints. Nevertheless, the bandwagon is back on and Smith is safe for now.
Arizona Cardinals (1-1): Derek Anderson sucks. The Cards see promise in Max Hall and the way I see it the less Hall plays the longer Arizona believes that. So suck less, Anderson.
Teams locked into a quarterback (that we should root against)
Detroit Lions (0-2)
St. Louis Rams (0-2)
Denver Broncos (1-1)
Atlanta Falcons (1-1)
New York Jets (1-1)
Tampa Bay Buccaneers (2-0)
Chicago Bears (2-0)
Green Bay Packers (2-0)
Where Seattle stands right now
Seattle is behind the Bills and the Browns.
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Criminey would it be stupid if the NFL locked out.
by John Morgan on Sep 25, 2010 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions
And yet I feel they will
At that point I’ll just watch the CFL. Yvenson Bernard was playing for Winnipeg last night.
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by SSreporters on Sep 25, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions
No he's still a RB. I also think Michael Bumpus was with BC.
Fullbacks are pretty much unnecessary in the CFL.
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by SSreporters on Sep 25, 2010 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Couldn't say as I didn't watch the whole game
Quick look up of his profile says he had 336 yards on 53 carries in 2009. He fumbled 4 times.
Lots of ex-Seahawks seem to hop over to the CFL. Kerry Joseph I think was a safety for us and now he’s playing QB.
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by SSreporters on Sep 25, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
The raiders pick belongs to new england
by Davis Hsu on Sep 25, 2010 4:28 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
The raiders pick belongs to new england
by Davis Hsu on Sep 25, 2010 4:28 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I think it depends on the situation, and the most likely favors him declaring
NFL analysts make a good point that there is two different types of lock-outs, the one that starts in March and the one that starts in September. Knowing that rookie salary caps/slotting is high on the owners desire to change list and has to be close to the top of the NFLPA concession list (face it, NFLPA’s first obligation is to their current members, not their future members) Luck is probably better to declare and sign a reasonable contract before the lock out is resolved. Because once the new agreement is in place, he will be stuck with the cap system. At least coming out this year gives a college player the chance at the uber payday
Stats are not a euphemism for tits
Crappy college lineup today outside of Bama/Arkansas
I’ll keep an eye on Mallett but holy crap I love me some Julio Jones.
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Sorry if this starts a sub thread but whats with the lockout anyways?
I really don’t know dick about how that would happen or even why. I know the players union is grumbling and owners are grumbling about something or other. Also would that affect the college season? Or just the pro season…..
7 picks for 7 quarterbacks in Draft 2011! EFF IT!
by Seatown_Sport_Head321 on Sep 25, 2010 12:40 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
But a boomstick is worse than a cannon.
by Coach Owens on Sep 25, 2010 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions
You'd rather wield a cannon than a shotgun?
by John Morgan on Sep 25, 2010 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions
No, but a cannon has much better range (aka arm strength) than a sawn-off shotgun.
by Coach Owens on Sep 25, 2010 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions
This is true
It’s not a literal analogy. Having fun with a cliche.
by John Morgan on Sep 25, 2010 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions
But the boomstick has better accuracy.
I mean comparatively. If we’re talking accuracy, we’ve got to be able to do better than a shotgun and a cannon.
Assuming it has to be weaponry
and a projectile rather than a rocket, something with rifling would be best. Something like this.
Sub. Ject. Line.
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by SSreporters on Sep 25, 2010 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Ryan Mallett has the tools
But is he raw?
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No idea.
Just heard it mentioned. QBs that tall are very rare and when they have made the NFL they have not been good. Likely says more about the player (see: Dan Mcgwire). I’m not sure how it could affect his mechanics.
Bottom line is I’m looking for what may be ‘wrong’ with this guy and can’t find much.
I find the difference in how the QB rating stat is calculated in college and in the pros irritating.
Even so!
It’s probably like OCD or something.
by Coach Owens on Sep 25, 2010 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
Arizona should be completely and utterly screwed with their October schedule
If we’re anything but 1-3 at the bye I’d say we should be favorites to win the division.
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I wonder, if the Seahawks are not kind of bad, or mediocre, didn't back their way into the playoffs
but were a historically bad playoff team, would that be preferable a losing season?
preferable over a losing season you mean?
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I disagree with your sig.
I laid out in my fanpost all the reasons Michael Robinson should start. It’s foolproof.
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by SSreporters on Sep 25, 2010 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Basically.
Better to be an embarrassing playoff team or a regular loser, with the included draft position?
I'd rather be a regular loser if it means building a contender
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@ Chargers, vs. Saints, @ Seahawks, vs. Bucs
I’m thinking 0-4 for Arizona.
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Anyone watching the USC-Wazzu game?
I can’t tell if Wazzus D is playing really well or if Matt Barkley just sucks.
7 picks for 7 quarterbacks in Draft 2011! EFF IT!
by Seatown_Sport_Head321 on Sep 25, 2010 1:01 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Bills look like an 0-16 quality team.
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Boom.
Ingram reminds me of Shaun.
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Anyone in this game that would be interesting prospects for the Sehawks, John?
(Besides Mallett of course)
You know what's worse than rooting for a rebuilding team?
Rooting for one repeatedly rebuilding for 4 seasons running.
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Rebuilding is a lie
Especially when a team has made little to no progress towards acquiring a new franchise quarterback.
I wasn't talking about the Seahawks
Talking about my favorite MLS team (Toronto FC).
We’ve been rebuilding for 4 seasons and we have some — Seahawk-like tendencies.
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But similarly we've made little to no progress acquiring a franchise forward
We don’t play from behind, we rarely win on the road, and we have tons of defensive liabilities and our offense is boring.
Hmmm.
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I really hope they don't move to Toronto
Both for Canada’s sake and Bills fans. I just refuse to accept this whole “globalize the NFL” idea.
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Pure awesome.
Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...
Forced that throw for no reason.
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I totally forgot Stanford/ND was on
Time to watch some Luck.
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How ironic if he loses the game for Stanford.
I can see the headlines in the Indiana papers tomorrow morning.
Richardson may be the best RB on Alabama.
But I’d love to have either him or Ingram. Richardson in 2012 after our new QB in 2011. ;)
Michael Robinson can play 4 different positions.
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Okung, Robinson, Mare, Carlson, and Mebane
Could be a Super Bowl team.
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I could just imagine the Bills taking Ingram with their first rounder.
Man, they could use some other players, but why not stick with RB, RB, RB, RB? A whole offense of RB’s has got to be confusing for the defense!
Wow, UCLA just intercepted Texas in their territory.
It could very well be 20-3 UCLA here in a couple seconds.
Kevin Prince usually is ripe for some interceptions of his own.
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On cue he fumbles
Close enough.
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6 turnovers in a half of football
Amazing.
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Theyre really high on the kid behind T Jack
Joe Webb I think his name is.
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
On the one hand, it's beautiful outside and I need to go dig up a stump
on the other, this is starting like a game of the year.
49ers are (0-2)
not (1-1)
Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...
This is embarrassing for Texas.
UCLA is not without talent, but Rick Neuheisel has been nearly clueless as a coach. After a promising start to Gilbert’s career in the bowl game last year, he sure does look rough.
At one point ucla had run the ball 17 straight times
They have no passing game to speak of and they’re taking it to Texas.
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
There defense was always supposed to be good
Not sure what all went wrong in their first two games.
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
But they have the self proclaimed best staff in the land!
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
Moses supposes his toeses are roses
but Moses supposes erroneously.
Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...
But he hasnt lost since middle school!
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
The only game I lost in middle school
was the city championship game. We also tied one game in 8th grade I think.
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
Gault Gazelles baby!
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
Anyone watching UNC vs. Rutgers?
The Tar Heels pass rush is looking awesome.
Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...
Rutgers is kind of bad
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
Oh.. nevermind.
Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...
Ignorent question cuz I'm out of time to watch:
is Mallett very mobile? I’m just curious if he would be a Bates’ scheme fit.
Though they sink through the Sea, they shall rise again...Death shall have no dominion...
I love it when games live up to their hype
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Kinda surprised at how little Stanford has scored on Notre Dame
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
Ruh roh
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
Yeah he has an eternity to finish it off.
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
They're probably optimistic Mallett will throw another INT
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How long until someone starts running the Pistol in the NFL?
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
Ah
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
Still a weird trade
But I guess they had a shift in management so that probably accounts for it.
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
Game over
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
Wow, thanks Ryan
Way to make me look like a dick.
Obviously trying to draw them off
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Too early in the season
Also theyre on the road
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
Interesting
Moore only completes about a third of his non play action passes. Wonder if that is true about a lot of other QBs?
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
With Alabama's defense loosening up this year, I think they could hang in.
BSU is stout enough defensively to not allow what Arkansas allowed today. Just drill McElroy.
This field was not designed with the idea of televised games.
I wonder if OSU players are getting popped by guys they can’t see. Like Predator.
That was a nice punt return.
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
Yes
But so did Childs’ injury in the Ark/Ala game earlier and he came right back.
Upon further reflection, you're right
This one his knee buckled and then he collapsed untouched. Bad news.
Well, never mind, he is ready to come back in
I guess he’s okay
Announcers call that good coverage
short of dropping a route, a receiver’s not going to get much more open. He had beat the safety ten feet into his route. He was open and open and slowed to catch the pass. Then, the safety recovered.
Im not sure how Herbstreit can say that was more ucla beating Texas
than Texas losing. The bruins had 27 yards passing!
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
I try not to be a hater, but whatever this "This is the Sound" POS bumper song ABC is rolling with should
bring ruin to all associated with its production.
I could see them getting shots as returners
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
I do feel like they owe a lot of their name recognition
to a poorly coached Pete Carroll defense that failed to make adjustments.
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
Oklahoma on upset alert
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
Why?
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
Ouch
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
That about wraps it up.
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
Im kind of surprised it isnt
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
Oh Woods
Did you catch his fumble as he neared the end zone in the first half during a 73-yard catch? He was at the 6 and had the ball punched out from behind. This is not his game.
That hit looked like it caused some brain damage
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
So how about Marcus McNeill making a statement with his holdout?
All he did was cost himself $2+ million dollars, leverage for next year, and respect. No biggy.
Everyone can talk about Locker and Mallet and Luck and Ponder and Callaros
but Cam Newton will be the one who leads Seattle to a Lombardi trophy.
Hes got a criminal record
he will never start a game for a Seattle team.
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
First non play action touch down pass for Moore this season
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
Yikes
James Rodgers trying to get back in the game despite a concussion. Sounds like the team is being smart and not letting him back in.
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
That play was so crazy
Im not invested in either team and I yelled out loud at that.
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
Auburn about to put away USCe
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
Boise State are a bunch of fucking philistines.
They aren’t super high on my hate list, but they are gaining.
I really dont want them to make the MNC game
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
Alabama Vs Arkansas today
Im not sure if I like Mallet any more, my reasoning is kinda stupid.. he reminds me of a whiny Ryan Leaf.. throwing those three picks and then everytime he got barely touched it was like someone hit him as hard as they could…
Fade routes to Deion Branch only work against Kelly Jennings
by BleedGreenandBlue on Sep 25, 2010 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions
sorry DJ not meant as a reply
Fade routes to Deion Branch only work against Kelly Jennings
by BleedGreenandBlue on Sep 25, 2010 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Funny, they are at the top of mine
It’s at the point where I can’t decide if World Peace or Boise State losing every game for the rest of their existence is higher on my wish list.
Stats are not a euphemism for tits
Oregon tops that list...by 5 parsecs.
I’m not generally a “hater”, but I am for Oregon. I want them to lose everything they ever attempt. I always go for Pac-10 over everything…EXCEPT Oregon.
Was probably Hout
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
Im guessing everyone else is spent
but this Oregon ASU game is getting really good.
To improve, they should try to become the musical southern cal of the west. - bRuins Nation poster on the Stanford band.
Yeah it is.
Where’d this ASU passer come from? Kid has some talent.
inside of a dog it's too dark to read.
No one should ever want Mallett.
I’ve watched him last year, and no, he doesn’t have the skills that will translate to the pros. Tools? Yeah. He’s got it all. Skills? Not so much.
Golden!
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