Cutting Down to 53
by Thomas Beekers on Sep 4, 2010 9:44 AM PDT
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PrintWe'll keep this post updated with the latest roster cuts today. A final 53-man roster should materialize in the coming 6 hours. Will we see any surprising moves? Can you still call it surprise moves when that's really all your front office does?
Nick Reed went earlier today, and angels weep in his wake.
Schefter reports Losman has been cut, and doesn't expect us to add a third QB. Others report active interest in veteran QB Patrick Ramsey.
10:59 PST: Jay Glazer reports WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh has been cut.
12:27 PST: Danny O'Neil reports S Jamar Adams has been cut.
4:19 PST: Danny O'Neil believes we're keeping both LB Matt McCoy and S Kevin Ellison.
EDIT: confirmation has come that both Matt McCoy and Kevin Ellison made the roster.
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Is Ramsey in that Cutler mold Bates is looking for?
Pat White is also free now. SENECA 2.0
I don't think Ramsey is strong-armed
But he was Cutler’s back-up in DEN while Bates was QB coach, so there’s the connection.
"I'm tired of chasing after my dreams. I'll just find out where they're going, and catch up later." - Hedberg
Whatever Schnieder/Carroll are 'building' is a temple of lies.
You know, with the cutting of Nick Reed and all.
Interesting cuts:
Ten. cut Myron Rolle — We probably don’t have much interest. PC is focused on athletes the way Ruskell was focused on cerebellum use.
Dolphins release Pat White — Athletic QB who can rollout? No thanks.
Buc release Michael Clayton — Run blocking receiver.
Skin release Willie Parker — Nononononononononononononoooooooo………..
SBN isn’t letting me link. They were all to Schefter’s Twitter anyway.
“Oh Comely” is one of my favorite songs ever.
Texans released Chris Henry
That’s probably the cut that interests me the most. Great fit at RB if we wish to get rid of Julius Jones. Though he’s very unpolished.
by Thomas Beekers on Sep 4, 2010 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn't mind taking a flyer on Pat White as a third QB
by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 4, 2010 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
Pat White does have a noodle arm. But he is actually pretty accurate.
by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 4, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions
I would say that he looked completely lost playing for Miami last year.
Leinart has a noodle arm but we know that he is capable of running a Pro offense. Pat White we still aren’t sure.
by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 4, 2010 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I would...
Pat White as some talent, but I think he needs a system design around him in order to succeed. In this O, I would rather have someone who could develop into starter in a more standard system.
Question
Has Carroll brought to camp anybody with more than like five years in the league ? Wondering how strong is his desire for youth on the team.
Milloy out of retirement.
Sean Morey. Ben Hamilton. I wouldn’t be surprised if I’m missing one or five, but those are three good examples.
Brandstarter cut from Colts
They seemed to have liked him over here:
http://www.stampedeblue.com/2010/9/4/1669495/adam-shefter-colts-cut-tom#storyjump
Anyone know what mold this guy is after?
Ugh, Bronco fans were ridiculous about him.
They thought he was the next Brady, always called him Tom B.
He went to highschool near where I grew up.
So, I approve picking him up just so someone who grew up near me is on my team of choice.
According to Schefty:
Line-Art is in the same boat as Housh. (For the first and last time in his life).
Rhett Bomar cut as well
Rhett Bomar is toolsy, right?
Housh is cut...
No team is willing to take on his ridiculous contract, which is the same reason that we are cutting him. This uncapped year is a chance to rid ourselves of bad contracts and Housh’s is probably the worse we have on the team. We will need that cap room next year and beyond. I like TJ as one of the best possession receiver in the NFL but not at the expense of bringing in young talent in the next couple of off-seasons. It is the right move for this team’s future. Cleaning up after Ruskell again.
by TrueHawkForLife on Sep 4, 2010 11:00 AM PDT reply actions
They would suffer a cap-hit next year if they cut him though.
right?
by SgtSasquatch on Sep 4, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
No one really knows what the CBA will do next year
pre-emptive.
I’m actually surprised that Matt is surviving all of this.
No but it is this year
If we waited until next year, we probably could still get out of it because it isn’t garanteed. The CBA defines the cap and how it functions. If we wait we risk his next year contract falling under the new CBA. At least that is my assumtion.
One word (probably misspelled): Accelerators
Signing bonuses are pro-rated over the life of the contract, up to 4 years.
So a 5-year contract at $2 million/year with a $5 million signing bonus would have the following cap numbers:
year 1 = $1.25 M (pro-rated bonus) + $2 M (salary) = $3.25 M
year 2 = $1.25 M + $2 M = $3.25 M
year 3 = $1.25 M + $2 M = $3.25 M
year 4 = $1.25 M + $2 M = $3.25 M
year 5 = $2 M
However, if you release the player, all of the unaccounted bonus counts immediately against that year’s cap. It doesn’t matter when it was actually paid or whether or not he gets any salary that year.
So if the above example is cut just before his second season, even with no guaranteed season 2 salary, his cap numbers look like this:
year 1 = $1.25 M (pro-rated bonus) + $2 M (salary) = $3.25 M
year 2 = $3.75 M (all remaining bonus) + $0 (salary) = $3.75 M
by Jason_D on Sep 4, 2010 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
And that's part of the salary cap rules,
it can’t be changed by the contract.
And it’s unlikely to change under a new CBA, as this isn’t really a player vs owner issue. Without accelerators, competitive pressure would force GMs to accumulate big cap deficits. Then you’d have high-cap-debt teams that everyone would know are going to suck for several years to come, which is bad for the NFL as a whole.
So, I only know what rotoworld tells me
Housh signed a five year, 40 million dollar contract with 15 million guaranteed including his first two seasons. His first two seasons total up to 15 million in salary. So if I’m reading that right and understanding it right, there was nothing prorated over the back end of his contract. So he could have been cut for free next season.
He had a small signing bonus
The contract details are here.
First, a correction: Signing bonuses are pro-rated up to five years of the contract (I erroneously said four in my previous post— I think that was an older CBA).
And you are correct, his salary is guaranteed for the first 2 years.
According to that source, Houshmandzadeh’s signing bonus was only $2 million, which pro-rates to $400K/year. That means Seattle would have taken a cap hit of $1.2 million ($400K x 3 remaining years) if they’d released him any time after the end of this season.
Instead, they take that hit now, and Housh’s cap number for 2010 is $1.6 million ($400K x 4 years) + $7 million (guaranteed salary) = $8.6 million. Which is meaningless, of course, because it’s an uncapped year.
Yeah, that looks like a paltry savings. But I guess Housh wasn’t in their long-term plans and they also wanted to clear space for a developing receiver.
-J
by Jason_D on Sep 4, 2010 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Matt is a free agent after this year
So the new CBA (whatever that will be) would have no effect on him, this season.
This year is the only year that's guaranteed correct?
by Hopefulmsfan on Sep 4, 2010 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions
Right, and since there is no cap this year
Cutting him now gets him completely off the books cap-wise.
by lemonverbena on Sep 4, 2010 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
That was my point
I think that if we kept him this year we would have been on the hook for him salary for 2011.
by TrueHawkForLife on Sep 4, 2010 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions
None of his 2011 salary was guaranteed. We wouldn't have had to pay him anything next year.
But it makes sense to do it now instead of waiting a year I guess.
by Hopefulmsfan on Sep 4, 2010 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions
Money, not a good fit, older, tends to sulk and bitch
by lemonverbena on Sep 4, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
Not money, we are paying him anyway.
But
“not a good fit, older, tends to sulk and bitch”seems like the most likely to me.
Contract next year
He wasn’t going to renegotiate.
by lemonverbena on Sep 4, 2010 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
I think that depends on the CBA
I know that we would never have to give him cash next year. But, we may have still taken a cap hit – depending on how the CBA and his contract were structured.
shrugs
No reason to wait if they didn't want him long-term
As demonstrated by other moves, they would rather give the roster spots and targets to other guys to develop them in the system. And they can project their post-2010 budget if they pick up Vincent Jackson or someone else.
by lemonverbena on Sep 4, 2010 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions
A reason to keep him
I actually think that there was a good reason to keep Housh this year: We are better this year with him than without him.
To me, the question is a long-term one. If keeping him this year forces us to cut talent that we want to develop, or take a cap hit, etc. – that may justify this move.
So, there is still a reason to keep him around in the short term – I just can’t speak to whether that value outweighs the potential negatives.
Not this year
But a BIG-TIME savings over the next three seasons.
by TrueHawkForLife on Sep 4, 2010 11:01 AM PDT reply actions
I think he'll end up with the Giants
Jim Sorgi is out for the year, so they could use another QB (especially since they just cut Bomar today). He’d probably chill out there for a year on the bench, and see if he can catch on with another team next season.
Nice to see this place finally picking up Twitter
Love it or hate it, theres no arguing that it’s the best breaking news source on the planet!
"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM
by Nick Andron on Sep 4, 2010 11:18 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I have my twitter account forward a text to me
Twitter has the ability to text message you whenever someone tweets, and it’s a case by case setting. I have John Morgan, Eric Williams, Mike Sando, Danny O’Neil, Hasselbeck, Tate, Okung, Forsett, all set to hit my phone when they tweet.
I wind up getting big news four times, but if it’s big news, I’d rather get it four times than none.
Oh, and @JForssett is in Beaverton today, and says the Nike store is packed :)
The best over the off season has been watching Tate’s tweets. Never “Me and my posse headed to the club to tear it up!”, but more of, “Me and little bro going bowling toady!” Nice to see him NOT making headlines!
In fact, O'Neil just tweeted
that he has been told that the Hawks are “still considering pursuit of Vincent Jackson.”
No, please don't
I would rather overpay for Jackson than give Bradford a shiny new toy for years and years.
Just took a look at Tate's twitter
Made me laugh a few times, good stuff.
Looks like we could pick Reed back up once he's healthy
Maybe his legacy in Seattle is still alive
Reed will sign with Detroit
and we will trade a draft pick to get him back.
by Tigloki on Sep 4, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Is it just me
Or is the Rams moving Bradford to QB1 for week 1 kind of a bad move. It’s not like they’re playing to win, and their O-line has been fluid all off-season. Why not wait until your O-line starters gelled and then move him in? It’s not like he’ll learn much running for his life.
He is a decent size guy and can probably take the beating that will come
But I tend to agree with you
The backup is AJ Feeley
What are they going to do?
Mo Johnston is what John Schneider could be in 4 years.
Play AJ Feeley?
Do you really think they’ll win more games with Bradford under center? Even if they do, will it matter?
by Thomas Beekers on Sep 4, 2010 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions
That was one of the best wins I've ever witnessed
Even though Holmgren and Shaun made it as hard as possible.
Mo Johnston is what John Schneider could be in 4 years.
2007 really could've been an outstanding team
I think 4 of our 6 losses were by 3 points.
Mo Johnston is what John Schneider could be in 4 years.
@ARI, @CLE, @CAR and @ATL were all close
Although that last one was a glorified preseason game; most of the starters barely played.
@ ARI we should've won but Mack blew his block
@ CLE Holmgren lost his marbles.
@ CAR well….I have no idea why we played Shaun so much but that was annoying.
@ ATL was a preseason game.
Mo Johnston is what John Schneider could be in 4 years.
That Carolina game was SO frustrating
It featured a rookie Matt Moore looking really suave and accurate against a Seahawk defense that just a week prior shut down Kurt Warner. We were looking past that Panther team, methinks.
The fact we couldn't get any pressure
And MoMo wasn’t getting any carries made that a very puzzling loss.
We could’ve easily gotten a first round bye that year.
Mo Johnston is what John Schneider could be in 4 years.
Only if we swept the last 3 games AND the Cowboys or Packers lost 2 of 3
And neither of them did; even if we had won out the Seahawks would have been the #3 seed that season (although there was still a chance of getting that bye during the Panthers game, but it was pretty unlikely).
I'm talking collectively
With all of the close games we lost.
After the Packers game I was hoping Dallas would win because I wouldn’t face the reality that had we won we would’ve hosted the Giants at Qwest for the NFCCG.
Mo Johnston is what John Schneider could be in 4 years.
Yeah, Holmgren riding Shaun's decaying corpse cost us some wins that year
And if things didn’t end up where we were playing the Packers in a snowstorm…things could have ended up very different for the Seahawks that season.
Holmgren and Stump Mitchell were responsible
For running Shaun over and over again.
Holmgren’s asinine playcalling really cost some games. His meltdown against Pittsburgh, calling a draw play with no timeouts against Cleveland, and that entire 2nd half against the Saints.
Mo Johnston is what John Schneider could be in 4 years.
That team could have been 12-4, and Holmgren could have screwed things up worse, and we could have gone 7-9
Very little separated success from total disaster that year.
We had some individual disasters on the team
Stutz, Marcus Pollard, the first year of B-Russ, and Chris Gray was pretty bad as well.
Mo Johnston is what John Schneider could be in 4 years.
I'm not trying to GNN about Housh...
But honestly, I was disappointed with his attitude since he came to town, I guess having Ochocinco across from him made him look someone sane. As much as giving up something for nothing (Or, well, 7 million dollars for a roster spot…) his attitude was beginning to grate on me almost as much.
My first choice would be only 2 QBs on the roster
but, yes, my second choice would be Leinert. Much better prospect than Losman or Ramsey.
So Carroll can be hassled with Hasselbeck/Whitehurst/Leinart questions at every press conference?
I don’t see it.
by lemonverbena on Sep 4, 2010 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm sure PC can take it
Plus I like the idea of taking in a QB from a division rival, especially one very mad at getting benched. Definitely would add a layer of intrigue to the two games we play with them.
If he's mad at getting benched, getting signed to be a #3 isn't going to make him feel better
by lemonverbena on Sep 4, 2010 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
I think Leinert has figured out he isn't going to start for ANYBODY this season
If he did sign here, he’d know coming in he’d be #3. I think after sitting behind Warner in Arizona for so long, only to get beaten out by Derek fucking Anderson was the last straw for him there.
Jon Jansen Cut by Lions
Anybody know if he still any good? Washed Up? He is a former pro bowl RT. He can’t be any worse than Locklear.
I'm not sure if that's fair.
An errant gust of wind might cause Matt’s next debilitating injury.
He was terrible last year at LT
I thought that moving him back to RT would enable him to return to being decent again. However, he has looked like one of the worst starting tackles in the league this preseason,
I watched the first preseason game to see Okung
And all the pressure I saw was coming over the right…not good.
Just mediocre.
And getting worse every season. He looked completely inept at times this preseason.
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
Here's hoping this is the offseason that Craig Terrill is finally released.
by Wayward Llama on Sep 4, 2010 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions
29 isn't too old for an OT, I thought.
Agree about the litany of injuries though.
by SgtSasquatch on Sep 4, 2010 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Considering VJax is all but certain to sit out the first 10 games, I think the Chargers may be asking for less in a trade
There are plenty of scenarios were a trade for Jackson looks very, very appealing.
3 minimum, 6 maximum as I understand it.
I think it’s the money, not the trade that stands in the way.
Then maybe that was the real reason the Seahawks cut TJ
If VJax is willing to take less money than the previous demands, then the Seahawks would replace one big salary for another (and a younger player, to boot).
I just want to get this out of the way
I don’t want to trade for Vincent Jackson. At first I was all for it but now I think that it makes no sense to do it short term and unless this team has a reliable QB it won’t work long term either.
Also, AJ Green and Julio Jones are in the 2011 draft.
Mo Johnston is what John Schneider could be in 4 years.
Oooooh!
Is he that kid who couldn’t take a hit from Al Afalava? I remember now. Yeah, he seems okay.
But also tamed a wild coyote and now keeps it as a pet.
by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 4, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait a tic, isn't that kid still in college?
Seems weird talking about someone in this thread who isn’t even eligible to play in the NFL this season.
(I am really sick of hearing about Jake Locker.)
CBS College Sports
If you have the sports tier on a cable/dish package, you have the channel.
by lemonverbena on Sep 4, 2010 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of which... what channel
I’m in Canada, but it looks like I’m not getting the Huskies game.
CBS College Sports here
It’s a subscription channel so you’re out of luck and so are most of us.
Mo Johnston is what John Schneider could be in 4 years.
Believe or not it's on the basic package for Cablevision in the NE
So if you’re NY/CT/NJ, you’re in luck. Like me!
It's official
Leinart’s been cut.
Vince Young > Matt Leinart for all eternity
Mo Johnston is what John Schneider could be in 4 years.
Who have thought, only 14 months ago, that Young would better right now than either Leinert or Cutler?
And Mario Williams being (perhaps) a better player than Reggie Bush…that 2006 Draft was weird.
I was a huge Vince Young fan during his Texas days
And I hate USC. I hate them a lot. Probably explains my apprehensiveness with PC.
Mo Johnston is what John Schneider could be in 4 years.
Yeah that "lateral" was bogus
But Vince was clutch and Leinart wasn’t.
Mo Johnston is what John Schneider could be in 4 years.
so is the cutoff 1 PST?
Don’t get the point of all the procrastination. Tell me the results!!!
It's actually 3 PST
I think La Canfora created some confusion earlier this week by saying it was 4 PM Eastern or something like that, but it’s 6 EST/3 PST
And now, an official announcement regarding Mike Williams:
He’s on all three of my fantasy football rosters.
Seahawks Fans Cannot Be Cured
meh, Babs is alright for depth
back up to young guy who probably wont get hurt, and can play CB in a pinch so they can put Roy Lewis on the PS and have an extra roster spot
This was our offseason
Trade Tapp for Clemons – FG goes in meltdown mode.
Trade down in the 2nd to get Whitehurst.
Have kickass draft netting us Earl, Okung, Leon, and Golden – FG rejoices.
Cory Redding let go to the Ravens.
After a “quiet” period consisting of trading draft picks for people we don’t know about, Pistol, Nick Reed, and Housh are all gone.
Mo Johnston is what John Schneider could be in 4 years.
...and other stuff that happened with the front office and coaching staff
Seahawks Fans Cannot Be Cured
That's low-balling
The last number I saw was 130 roster moves under Pete Carroll. I’m not even joking.
by Thomas Beekers on Sep 4, 2010 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I'd put Vickerson in that draft day discussion.
Dude looks like a beast, even with all the time he missed nursing a knee. Also Thurmond.
Oh my
From Lombardi:
michaelombardi
Denver traded DC ASmith to Detroit for Gronkowski and Pick
Denver just traded away their de facto 14th overall pick from this year. Alphonso Smith, we hardly knew ye.
PS: AHAHAHAHAHA
Since Smith was drafted with our 2nd round pick (which we traded to Denver), is it no surprise he ended up in Detroit?
The Seatroit Sealions strike again!
Colt Brennan cut by the Raiders
I’ve always been mildly intrigued. He played pretty well in the preseason with the Redskins last year, I think.
Ian Johnson, the former Boise State Bronco
Has been cut by Minnesota. Anyone “Propose” we sign him?
p.s. yes, this was just awful. Work is eating my brain today.
by ErictheHawksFan on Sep 4, 2010 12:58 PM PDT reply actions
he's from Minny isn't he?
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
I apologize for not keeping up with the class, but we're only likely to see cuts today?
The signing of cut players probably won’t begin until tomorrow or later?
They could sign immediately, I guess
But teams have to STAY at a 53-man roster here on out, so if they sign anyone new they also have to cut/trade another player. Many teams probably won’t be making any more moves for this reason.
This has been addressed about ten times in this and other posts.
But, the issue is that someone posted the wrong time at some point. The vast majority of citations say it is 3PM Pacific, 6PM Eastern.
Housh signs with the vikings
according to rotoworld.
If true, good for Housh
I have no ill will there
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
He all of a sudden became a way better fantasy option.
by Scruffy Lefty on Sep 4, 2010 2:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Monday's headline for this season: 'Housh angry he's not getting enough passes from Farve"
"Football players are temperamental. That's 90 percent temper and 10 percent mental." - Doug Plank
Another cut player who could be interesting.
Jeremiah Johnson as a RB for the Seahawks? Depending on injury, anyway.
.
http://twitter.com/Adam_Schefter/status/23008013333
Mo Johnston is what John Schneider could be in 4 years.
From bad to worse
As tweeted by Adam Schefter, Gibbs has abruptly resigned. Is there going to be anyone left when the season starts?
WHAAA?
This seems to indicate that the church is on fire IMO.
Another possibility
is that Hamilton is getting cut, and Gibbs wanted no part in it. At least, that’s what Mike Sando is suggesting.
That's what Sando thinks
Maybe said cut ignited an argument between Gibbs and Carroll, or something.
not "retire". quit.
"Football players are temperamental. That's 90 percent temper and 10 percent mental." - Doug Plank
aaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
No, just our quarterbacks.
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
Here's hoping this is the offseason that Craig Terrill is finally released.
by Wayward Llama on Sep 4, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
?????
What the fuck
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
Here's hoping this is the offseason that Craig Terrill is finally released.
by Wayward Llama on Sep 4, 2010 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions
The pussy.
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
Here's hoping this is the offseason that Craig Terrill is finally released.
by Wayward Llama on Sep 4, 2010 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions
And here's a Tweet to prove it.
LaCanfora:
Seahawks acquire Stacy Andrews from Eagles. More details to come
I can't wait to see what the price was. Boy did we need a guard after shipping Sims out for a 5th.
Let’s see what it cost to replace him!
Is this move connected in any way to Gibbs resignation?
Maybe Q/PM had expressed dissatisfaction on how the o-line was playing so far. Could the team be moving away from the ZBS?
This mean we're abandoning Zone Blocking?
Stacy doesn’t seem to fit, and with Gibbs sudden retirement
it's got to be a clash with Carroll/Bates
You can’t expect to get your personnel set in at the starting year of a rebuild. They even gave him Okung
Did Gibbs quit, or was he cut?
Maybe the lack of run game was laid at his feet rather than blamed on o-line or RBs?
Pete clashing with a respected offensive genius?
This is completely unprecedented!
/sarcasm
[DELETED ZOMG NO POLITICS]
this line could do that to a guy...
Gibbs and Mike Solari are probably headed out in a fishing boat somewhere to get good and drunk and tell the league to go f themselves.
"Football players are temperamental. That's 90 percent temper and 10 percent mental." - Doug Plank
He's saying Seattle plans to use Andrews at OT
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
I wouldn't be suprised if he came back as a consultant.
I kinda buy that he doesn’t have it in him to work a full season. He’s been a consultant that past couple years anyway no?
Is Andrews any good? Seeing a lot of negative press about him.
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
Here's hoping this is the offseason that Craig Terrill is finally released.
He tore his ACL in 2008
And his brother hasn’t been healthy either, hence he was cut.
Mo Johnston is what John Schneider could be in 4 years.
Lovely.
Either way, I’m sure he’s better than Hamilton.
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
Here's hoping this is the offseason that Craig Terrill is finally released.
by Wayward Llama on Sep 4, 2010 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions
He was also benched last season in week 2
Because he’s a lousy pass blocker.
Mo Johnston is what John Schneider could be in 4 years.
Alright, so how about those cuts?
It's Great to be a Florida Gator!
Here's hoping this is the offseason that Craig Terrill is finally released.
HA! Sando is funny!
Via Twitter: “espn_nfcwest Glen Coffee presumably supportive of Alex Gibbs’ decision.”
by Tigloki on Sep 4, 2010 3:54 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Jacksonville State takes Ole Miss to OT
J State just got ass raped by the officials on an obvious hold by Ole Miss on 4th and goal to tie.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Off Topic -- sorry
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
J-State pulls off the upset 49-48 in 2 OTs
holy crap
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Welp, time to stock up on some purple drank
I don’t think I want to remember this season
Now can we complain about the Front Office?
Because this is clearly indicative that all is not right in Hawktown.
Well I'm going to give them 3 before I start openly questioning how smart they are.
I’m giving them the benefit of the doubt until then.
3 seems kinda arbitrary tho
You can lose or win 3 on dumb luck. I tend to prefer just giving them the season since, hell, we’re stuck with them anyway.
by Thomas Beekers on Sep 4, 2010 4:39 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Well I'm just talking about questioning their decision making (some people are already there).
With the exception of the J Wilson move, I’ve kind blindly supported the moves. You’re right about dumb luck, but I’m guessing after 3 games or so we’ll have some idea of how well the team has been constructed.
I’ll give them a year before I call for heads.
If McDaniels can somehow lead the Broncos on a 8 game winning streak after an entire offseason of incompetent moves
Then I don’t see why Carroll can’t after a week of them
We at the very least had a competent draft
Whereas they, uh, did not. See: Alphonso Smith
by ErictheHawksFan on Sep 4, 2010 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
It would be a minor miracle if Seattle makes the playoffs
And I hardly think it would be a direct result of these offseason moves.
Mo Johnston is what John Schneider could be in 4 years.
Well, minor miracles have happened before now.
Just not in Seattle.
(There is a first time for everything right?)
I'd say the '95 Mariners were a minor miracle
and they would have been a major one if they had won the World Series.
Here they come.
#Seahawks waive: DT Quinn Pitcock, RB Louis Rankin, DE Rob Rose, T Joe Toledo, TE Nick Tow-Arnett.
Some suprises
Veterans terminated: DT Amon Gordon, LB Tyjuan Hagler, WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh, WR Brandon Jones.
#Seahawks veterans terminated
#Seahawks veterans terminated: QB J.P. Losman, WR Ruvell Martin, DE James Wyche.
Via Seahawkaddicts.
Waived: S Jamar Adams, CB Marcus Brown, C Jeff Byers, G Mitch Erickson, CB Cord Parks, LB Joe Pawelek, T Jacob Phillips, DT Quinn Pitcock, RB Louis Rankin, DE Rob Rose, T Joe Toledo, TE Nick Tow-Arnett,
.
Waived:
S Jamar Adams
CB Marcus Brown
C Jeff Byers
G Mitch Erickson
CB Cord Parks
LB Joe Pawelek
T Jacob Phillips
DT Quinn Pitcock
RB Louis Rankin
DE Rob Rose
T Joe Toledo
TE Nick Tow-Arnett
Terminated the following vested veteran contracts:
DT Amon Gordon
LB Tyjuan Hagler
WR T.J. Houshmandzadeh
WR Brandon Jones
QB J.P. Losman
WR Ruvell Martin
DE James Wyche
Terminated vested veteran from Reserve / Injured with Injury Settlement:
DT Jonathan Lewis
Waived with an injury settlement:
DE Nick Reed
Placed on Reserve / Suspended by the Commissioner:
LB Leroy Hill
Mo Johnston is what John Schneider could be in 4 years.
I would rather they pick off some discarded young fast RB then stick with Jones
Rather go with the evil we don’t know
Go Jeremiah Johnson!
He’s got a cool name. He had a good preseason. He’s got, like, Northwest connections. And he’s not Schmidt or Jones. Nick Reed willing, he will be mine.
Now would've been the time to release Branch if we were gonna
Carroll I am dissapoint
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