Dear Aaron Curry
by SSreporters on Jan 13, 2011 5:21 PM PST
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I've been very patient with you for the last two seasons. With a big contract that comes with being the #4 overall pick you sure haven't lived up to it. I like your personality because you're always fired up and eager. Now can you please play football properly? Some time in the 1st half of the Saints game I declared you a bust after biting on play-action (again) and allowing Heath Evans to score the first touchdown. I still stand by that statement even with an improved 2nd half. Right now you definitely aren't the worst player on defense (Kelly Jennings is) but you're certainly a liability. The missed tackles, blown assignments, and offsides after offsides has pretty much taken its toll on me.
HOWEVER, this weekend the Seahawks play the Bears. In your first game against Chicago back in 2009 you recorded your first career sack and FF with the strip-sack of Jay Cutler. Seattle sadly was uninterested in touchdowns and while this turnover led to a 19-17 lead the Bears won the game through the arm of Jay Cutler and the brains of Seneca Wallace.
Fast forward to 2010, this time in Chicago, the Bears were driving in the 2nd quarter down 14-7 looking to tie the game, but on 3rd and 10 you hustled and notched a sack on Cutler that prevented a potential touchdown and limited Chicago to 3. Seattle would never relinquish the lead and they won 23-20.
It's a small sample size, but you've shown glimpses of greatness and two of those significant occasions came against Chicago. The Bears have the worst offensive line in the league and if anything has improved this season it's your ability to rush the passer. With that in mind, this weekend you have to perform competently. The QB is familiar, the stadium is familiar, but the stakes are higher. Seattle's best linebackers are David Hawthorne and Will Herring and that's sad considering the former was undrafted and the latter is a 5th round safety-turned-linebacker. Channel your infectious enthusiasm over mundane plays with meaningful aggression and intelligent play. Don't make John Schneider choose Von Miller and possibly end your brief Seattle career. I want to like you as a football player but you make it so difficult.
Help get the worst playoff team of all-time to the NFC CG.
Regards,
--SSReporters
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Also - Aaron Curry, please stop spamming twitter so much
by chrees on Jan 13, 2011 5:27 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Fucking seriously. If he keeps it up much longer I'm gonna have to unfollow him.
by BrettJMiller on Jan 14, 2011 12:14 AM PST up reply actions
It's both him and Raheem Brock.
“AMG I’M THE BIGGEST 12 THERE IS CAN I GET A RT!?”
“IT’S MY BDAY CAN I GET A RT?”
“I JUST BOUGHT YOUR FATHEAD #WAAAAAAAAAAAAARCRRRRYYYYYY can I get a RT?”
All. Day. Long.
What a freakin asshole!
I can’t believe he’d just piss on our fans like that.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Jan 14, 2011 9:30 AM PST up reply actions
The Seahawks are not the worst playoff team of all time
They entered the playoffs with the worst (non-strike year) regular season record of all time. But quite clearly, with a playoff win over the defending champs, they are not the worst playoff team ever.
Doesn't DVOA
establish us as empirically the THIRD worst playoff team ever?
The sun will shine on winter snow. And shadows fade In Excelsis Deo. GO HASSELBECK!!!
If you think playoff teams are defined by their regular season performances
Which is asinine. The “worst playoff teams” are the ones that go one-and-out. that’s how playoffs work.
by Thomas Beekers on Jan 14, 2011 10:12 AM PST up reply actions
Chiefs.
Boy did they shit the bed.
"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM
Author of The Seahawks Asylum: http://seahawksblog.wordpress.com
by Nick Andron on Jan 14, 2011 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah
but the Ravens are pretty bad ass.
Lonely like cheese and baloney only / I could've broke my sacroiliac
Silly grind, Billy Jack, illy nine milli black - MF DOOM
by Wayward Llama on Jan 15, 2011 4:07 AM PST up reply actions
i can understand why you'd falsely believe that
But no other sport can be impacted by Refs or bouncing balls the way football can. No other sport provides the hometeam with the kind of advantage the Hawks have when they play at home, and no other NFL team has that kind of advntage.
If 2 teams played eachother 100 times, theres a good chance that one of them would win a fair amount more than the other, so even though the worse team would still win sometimes, it doesnt make them better.
It also didnt hurt that the Saints were more injured than us.
Nate Silver argued that we were the 2nd or 3rd worst team to make the playoffs
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Jan 13, 2011 7:21 PM PST up reply actions
I saw that, but he ranked some pretty putrid teams "ahead" of us.
Like the ‘88 Leafs, who won 21 games in 80 tries. So take it with a grain of salt, y’know.
Just picture Randichitupu.
Right, it's not like a couple of lucky bounces or a couple missed FG's would have flipped us from 7-9 to 9-7, after all.
Just picture Randichitupu.
Actually.......
The Hawks lost almost all their games by a large margin.
In many cases, a 2TD difference wouldnt even be enough to change the outcome.
Worst regular-season record to make the playoffs: yes
Worst playoff team of all-time: no
by lemonverbena on Jan 14, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
"Terrible Seattle Seahawks Have No Chance In Hell Of Winning Playoff Game Again, Right?"
by lemonverbena on Jan 14, 2011 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
I did
Those things will write themselves if the Hawks keep advancing.
by lemonverbena on Jan 14, 2011 12:30 PM PST up reply actions
From their ticker...
Report: Saints Attempted To Trade For Marshawn Lynch During 67-Yard Touchdown Run
I'm just saying I disagree. There is no hard and fast, right or wrong answer.
We won because we played our best game of the season. It doesn’t detract from the fact that we had an awful regular season and still have mostly that same roster. And even if we win on Sunday, we’ll still be the worst playoff team ever. Again, only my opinion.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jan 14, 2011 11:35 AM PST up reply actions
My point is semantic, but it is a semantic worth arguing for
It sounds like you are saying that the Seahawks are the worst team to ever make the playoffs. I’m saying that they aren’t, but agreeing that they had the worst record of a team to do so. Winning playoff games contradicts an argument that they are the worst team, i.e. the squad taking the field this Sunday in Chicago, not their regular-season record or offensive/defensive rankings. Winning in the playoffs renders those measurements irrelevant for all but draft slots and almanacs.
by lemonverbena on Jan 14, 2011 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
I mean for "draft slots" to have a strikethough, so there ya go
Bottom line, we all hope the Hawks continue to render these arguments irrelevant.
by lemonverbena on Jan 14, 2011 12:33 PM PST up reply actions
Nate Dogg pretty much sums up my point. And I think I see what you're saying now.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jan 14, 2011 1:09 PM PST up reply actions
I'm not talking about record. They were worse than their record if anything.
Lemon, I’m trying to wrap this argument up!!!
by Kenneth Arthur on Jan 14, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
My point is, the team that is currently in the playoffs is not "the worst playoff team of all time"
The regular season is dead and gone.
by lemonverbena on Jan 14, 2011 1:52 PM PST up reply actions
Like Julius Jones average?
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Jan 14, 2011 2:03 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
As it turns out, not the greatest team ever!
by lemonverbena on Jan 14, 2011 2:05 PM PST up reply actions
I disagree
Their regular season record implies they were the best ever.
Umm....
The team that won against the Saints is the same team that went 7-9 in the regular season.
The playoffs are not a “mystical” place with the power to change the past.
The 2010 Seahawks were 7-9, and they lost most of those 9 games by a big margin.
In fact, in the 2nd half of the season the Hawks were THE WORST team in the entire NFL.
It just turned out that the worst team to ever make the playoffs ended up winning.
The best team in the NFL almost never goes 16-0, but according to your logic whoever beats the best team is actually BETTER than that team so you actually become the best team. That doesnt make sense.
Bad teams win games too sometimes, it doesnt mean they are actually better than the other team, it just means that on THAT DAY the bad team played a better game
Haha in your face
Aaron Curry knows he plays like Tim Curry and feels bad about it enough there is no way he reads fan posts. The joke is on you SS!! When he plays like we picked him fourth overall he might be able to visit fan sites.
by DKrottenhawk on Jan 13, 2011 7:18 PM PST via mobile reply actions
hey guys
i love underdogs why cant u go all the way anything possible
okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
u too
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okay i have cerebral palsy arthris and chronic fatigue as well i have a great life and loveing folks some days are better than other days i got a make-a-wish in 2001 and saw my favorite team the broncos it was the trip of a lifetime i wish everyone couild have gotten to enjoy that with me i know some of u hate the broncos and that okay but i bleed organ and bule for my mnr fans but i bleed orange and blue denver will rise again resident broncos fan for every blog resident broncos for stampede bule thanks shvd98z24 real name jeremy woodard nettleton high class of 02 yes i am a raider
Lmao
Maybe field gulls should send him a card that says that with all our signatures on it.
by DKrottenhawk on Jan 13, 2011 11:05 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
For some reason Curry's been more inspiring at DT than LB.
I’d be tempted to just bulk him up over the offseason and stick him there.
Alternately, he could wise up and play smarter. I’m not writing him off yet, but next year is do-or-die. Please, Aaron, I beg of you—show me progress. I really don’t want Fearless Frog getting the last laugh.
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
Speaking of which--if Curry does bust, I say we un-ban FF as penance.
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
Since his Curry hatred is completely irrational and largely irrelevant to what Curry does or will do
Let’s not.
Curry would have to torch an orphanage and punt a puppy over a bridge for FF to be right about him.
by MT Olson on Jan 13, 2011 10:50 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
thats not fair
If someone is right, he’s right.
On the espn Hawks board i have been telling everyone Curry would be a bust since the beginning of his rookie season.
A lot of people accused me of having an irrational hatred for the guy, but in reality i was just REALLY REALLY REALLY mad that we wasted the #4 pick in the draft on “The Black Boz”.
If Fearless Frog predicted that Curry would end up being a bust, and you guys disagreed with him, then you guys are wrong and he is right.
Not really. Because he'd continue it after release
And he thinks Ruskell is the worst GM of all time pretty much.
Seahawks 41 Saints 36: Beast Mode.
Ken Norton needs to coach him up.
This has been the longest week ever.
I wish we had another Saturday game.
Texas A&M - LB (Joker) & Butkus Award winner
Highest rated LB in this years draft.
by Trojan Knight on Jan 14, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
I know who Von Miller is
He’s a pure pass-rusher guy, he comes from a 3-4 OLB spot. He can’t cover for dang because that’s not his job. Replacing Curry with him makes absolutely no sense, schematically.
by Thomas Beekers on Jan 14, 2011 6:44 PM PST up reply actions
Correct
Many people thought Curry was the best LB in many years, but it turns out he might not even be the best LB from Wake Forest in the last few years…….
I believe Von Miller would be more successful than Curry, but he doesnt fit our system and he wouldnt live up to 1st round expectations with us.
But Miller will be taken before we pick so we dont have to worry about it.
I'm curious since I wasn't on Field Gulls at the time, how many people wanted them to draft Curry.
I did at the time because of all I heard about him, but I had never seen him play before.
I don't think he was number one on too many peoples' lists
and he certainly caused some people to lose their god damned minds. But most people accepted it, the writing had been on the wall for a little while and he was talented, at the time probably thought to be the best player available.
Here's a thread about his signing, care of FF
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Jan 14, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
Well, I'm not sure I've seen him on Sportscenter since he signed that contract.
by Kenneth Arthur on Jan 14, 2011 1:44 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, he's definitely unperformed so far
Typical Ruskell 1st-round whiff. I can’t understand that at all. Ruskell knew LBs inside and out.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Jan 14, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
I wouldn't say he whiffed on Spencer
It just took him a few years to finally develop, which isn’t uncommon with centers.
by SmartAssCoug on Jan 14, 2011 2:03 PM PST up reply actions
We still don't know if Spencer will be a Seahawk in 2011
From what I understand, Ruskell didn’t like to take OL high in the draft and Spencer was rawer than a lot of 1st-round Ruskell picks, so he may be something of an outlier. To be fair to Ruskell, though, Holmgren was making sure that Ruskell was picking late in every round.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Jan 14, 2011 2:10 PM PST up reply actions
I miss FF.
Lonely like cheese and baloney only / I could've broke my sacroiliac
Silly grind, Billy Jack, illy nine milli black - MF DOOM
by Wayward Llama on Jan 15, 2011 4:09 AM PST up reply actions
I think we all do.
Mostly the mods because the banhammer has been very quiet this year.
Seahawks 41 Saints 36: Beast Mode.
I did not want Curry
LB was not a position of need, so I was hoping the Seahawks would trade down and take a guy in a need position, like say, Josh Freeman.
by lemonverbena on Jan 14, 2011 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
LB became a position of need as soon as we traded away Julian Peterson
but it might have been a position we could have filled with a later draft pick.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Jan 14, 2011 1:43 PM PST up reply actions
In retrospect, yes
After the 2008 season, though, I think you could have made an argument that our down year was more about freak injuries than decline and that our championship window was still open. If Ruskell had picked a QB in the first, instead of building around the core, I think that would have signalled a rebuilding.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Jan 14, 2011 1:54 PM PST up reply actions
Yes, instead it signaled Ruskell's last desperate gasp
by lemonverbena on Jan 14, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
Fixed
it signaled Ruskell’s last desperate gasp
by lemonverbena on Jan 14, 2011 2:09 PM PST up reply actions
Only fans who always assume the best
thought that our championship window was still open.
Our OL fell apart, Alexander was a product of the OL, Hass is one of the worst QB in the NFL without an elite OL.
Right there, in one sentence, i already gave a simple and correct reason why our window had already closed and should’ve been obvious.
2008 and 2009 should’ve been the beginning of a rebuild, instead they were both wasted by trying to hold onto a level of success that had left years ago.
This was not 20/20 hindsight, i’ve been calling for a FULL rebuild since 2008.
Cushing, Matthews and Lauranitis
all had more question marks than Curry coming into the draft (but have all outperformed him since then).
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Jan 14, 2011 8:28 PM PST up reply actions
Especially Lauranitis
He’s been surprisingly good.
Lonely like cheese and baloney only / I could've broke my sacroiliac
Silly grind, Billy Jack, illy nine milli black - MF DOOM
by Wayward Llama on Jan 15, 2011 4:13 AM PST up reply actions
Exactly.
Drafting a LB with 4th overall? Dude better be a world-destroyer.
Curry…not so much.
Lonely like cheese and baloney only / I could've broke my sacroiliac
Silly grind, Billy Jack, illy nine milli black - MF DOOM
by Wayward Llama on Jan 15, 2011 4:12 AM PST up reply actions
Didnt want him
I wanted the Hawks to trade down because i didnt think there was ANYONE worth the risk, considering how much money the #4 pick would make.
We had offers from ATLEAST the Jets, and i would have made that trade in a heartbeat. There was absolutely no droppoff in talent from picks 1-10 and picks 10-20, in fact 10-20 might be better.
I knew it was a wasted pick, and i was disgusted to see him get a $60M contract. Only Ray Lewis in his prime is worth that much as a LB.
I don't think I can go along with this attitude
Curry was supposed to be ready to play off the bat. He hasn’t. He has, however, shown a capability to play, and while sometimes a liability he also has shown the ability to be a playmaker. You point out as much yourself.
Unless a player is removed from the league or a constant liability in his second year, how can he be a bust? I know expectancies are always high for highly drafted player but “bust” is a misnomer here. Aside from the golden rule that a 3-year buffer is needed to make real, accurate judgement calls, he’s also still the starter with no immediate danger of losing his job.
I’m not saying I’m particularly excited about Curry, nor would I say he lived up to his “can’t miss” draft status, but eesh, give the guy a chance.
4th overall pick doesn't mean Hall of Famer either.
What if Curry develops into being a somewhat decent linebacker over his career? Not a Pro bowler, but not a liability either. Kind of like Terrence Newman from the Dallas Cowboys. He was drafted 4th overall (I think) and he hasn’t quite been the play-maker he was expected to be. But he certainly hasn’t been bad…
Correction
Newman was drafted 5th overall in 2003.
Actually
If you pay attention to Curry and compare him to LB on other teams (not just Pro Bowl LB) then you would see he is BELOW average.
The AVERAGE LB is better than Aaron Curry right now.
He’s not the worst starting LB in the league, but he is in the bottom 1/3.
He can’t drop back into coverage, he makes fewer plays as a pass rusher than what you expect from a starting OLB, and he has been average AT BEST against the run.
2/3 areas he is significantly below average, and 1/3 he is below average to average.
BUST
Where are your stat's?
Is this a subjective or objective comment?
by bonecruncher on Jan 21, 2011 8:54 PM PST up reply actions
According to your definition
Almost no one would be a bust.
Also, Curry HAS BEEN a liability. The problem is that the Hawks don’t want to pay $10M for a player to just sit on the bench, and they are on the hook for another $14M or so, and they hope to get SOME return on their investment in 2011 (Aaron Curry’s last year as a Hawk, just to let you know) so they let him play. They also couldnt afford to pay for other LB because of his huge contract so there isnt much else on the team.
Being the starter doesnt mean you are good at your job. If you are paid too much money for the team to afford a 2nd option, then it means they are STUCK with you whether they like it or not.
And yes, he is in very real danger of losing his starting job in the offseason. The average LB is better than Curry and we could easily upgrade.
Oh, and we did give him a chance. He has had 2 years and he has shown us less than what most people would expect from a 3rd rounder. He has played like a 7th rounder at best
BUST
I wouldn't call him a bust yet...
but he is the 3rd best LB on the team according to Advanced NFL Stats:
http://wp.advancednflstats.com/defteamyear.php?year=2010&team=SEA&season=all
so yeah, he needs to step his game up.
And JP Losman is the 4th best QB on the team...
"Retarded isn't a race." -Thingray
by Matt Erickson on Jan 15, 2011 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
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