Free Agent Kelly Jennings
According to Football Outsiders, Seattle finished dead last at defending number two wide receivers in 2010. That is the consummation of four-year trend. Seattle finished 27th in 2009, 24th in 2008 and 18th in 2007. In 2006, Seattle finished 5th.
The problem might be Kelly Jennings. Jennings and the volume of snaps Jennings receives at right cornerback, seem to roughly coincide with the dips and crevasses in Seattle's ability to defend number two receivers. Of course, determining exactly who a team's number two receiver is has always seemed problematic to me. Would that have been Ben Obomanu yesterday or Brandon Stokley. I would say Obo, but then, sometimes Obo plays on the left, sometimes on the right and sometimes from the slot. Sometimes he motions in and is essentially a tight end. Often, he is playing from a bunch formation, and his position is somewhat undefined. Stokley was more valuable and more active than Obomanu, and since neither has a fully defined position, what's to say Brandon wasn't Seattle's number two yesterday? What's to say he wasn't Seattle's number one?
Jennings is a tough nut to crack. He doesn't inspire faith with his visible play. He does seem to inspire faith in coaches with his ability to do what is asked of him. He's fast and healthy and his profile is that of a player we can expect to age gracefully. Some of his ineptitude at tracking and playing the ball might be attributed to inconsistent pass rush. It's hard to defend an accurate pass, and the Seahawks struggle with harrying quarterbacks into bad decisions and bad mechanics. But if pressure was the primary problem, we should expect Seattle to struggle defending primary receivers too, and it hasn't to nearly the same extent: 14th in 2010, 28th in 2009, 31st in 2008 and 6th in 2007. A couple bad seasons for sure, one in which Marcus Trufant missed six games and then returned a shell of himself, but not the same kind of sustained weakness and not the same kind of trend towards worse each season.
So, given the numbers, given the recognized limitations of the numbers and their ability to describe who is at fault or even who on the opposing offense succeeded, should Seattle replace Jennings? Will Walter Thurmond be ready to start next season? And, given that Seattle's depth behind Thurmond is Roy Lewis and Jordan Babineaux, and given the Seahawks penchant for seven defensive back packages, do the Seahawks need to upgrade both their talent and depth at cornerback?
I would argue that the Seahawks should replace Jennings. He can not defend the pass or tackle, and his inability to intercept passes is particularly damaging to a bend but don't break defense that survives on turnovers.
I don't know if Thurmond will be ready to start in 2011, and think the Seahawks should at least challenge him to seize the position. It could push him to be better. It definitely provides some kind of safety net if he doesn't.
The Seahawks absolutely must improve their talent at defensive back. The Bandit defense was novel at first, but finding ways to get Babineaux and Lewis on the field, much less Kam Chancellor, just doesn't make sense. If Seattle intends to make the formation a fixture, it needs to upgrade its overall talent at defensive back, and not by a little but a lot. The Seahawks said they traded Josh Wilson because of their abundance of talent at defensive back, but that was a flimsy excuse then and proved indefensible as the season wore on. Seattle decided Wilson didn't fit their profile, okay, but finding players that do, particularly young players that can grow into their responsibilities, is a priority this off-season.
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are #20 against #1 receivers. They had Asomugha, so i’m not sure why that’s the case, i don’t know if the number against #2 means anything about Jennings.
It's also possible that Asomugha had a down season, in part because of injury.
I watched Nnamdi get run around in a few games. We shouldn’t discredit a stat because of our assumptions about a player. Sometimes stats are quite a bit ahead of public perception.
by John Morgan on Jan 17, 2011 5:06 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
John another good write up
Personally, I think everyone other than Thomas needs to be re-evaluated. Lawyer Milloy still plays the box well however he let Olson look all world in coverage. Hire him as an assistant coach and let him continue to mentor Cam Chancellor. CB Marcus is on the edge of career due to constant injuries, and Jennings will likely not be back for all the reasons you described. With Asomugha and Champ Bailey likely available as well as options in the draft and the diminished need to draft a QB and RB we can up grade at CB OL and DL. What do you think?
by Sean Michael Patrick Gallegos on Jan 18, 2011 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
What Milloy does now is up to Milloy. I love his presence, but age caught up with him over the season.
I’d rather Seattle not spend on an older free agent corner. Way too many ways that could backfire, and the Seahawks are nothing like a one-piece away team.
Jennings doesn't necessarily cover the #2 receiver.
Jennings covers the right side of the field. It would depend on where the other team lines up their #2 receiver. Also it is my belief (purely a belief based on no evidence whatsoever) that the staff wasn’t really high on either Jennings or Wilson but they traded Wilson because he had enough value to get something in return. I was fine on the team sending Sims, Tapp and Jackson packing but trading Wilson did and still upsets me. You don’t get rid of playmakers for guys who don’t make plays.
Not just your belief
Pete did say that they viewed each as similar but could get value from Wilson. It was smart then and is now. Sure, we might have been a little better with Wilson but mostly likely would have just cut Jennings and not gained any resources.
Except for the resource that is Wilson
which is better than Jennings and a fifth round pick combined.
I know the inmates can't run the asylum.
But Josh really wanted to go to the Baltimore area . That could of been the deciding factor. Also I’d bet Pete Carrol’s been regretting the move after learning the REAL Kelly Jennings game.
'Free Agent Kelly Jennings'
My new favorite phrase
by farmer cam on Jan 17, 2011 5:36 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
hmmm... no it is not
Jennings a 49er sounds good to me.
I've been thinking for a while
CB should be the team’s top priority in the draft. Even if Thurmond takes a leap forward, there are worse things than having three good ones — and they’ll need to replace Trufant before long anyway. There’s a good chance that a Brandon Harris or a Janoris Jenkins will be available and worthy of that late first round pick.
by Suburban Shocker on Jan 17, 2011 5:40 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
EEEP.
All the corners in the world won’t help this pass rush. Yeah, yeah, I know about Red Bryant being out, but if your whole pass rush is dependent on one guy being healthy, you’re in trouble.
Having Cole in there doesn’t help, either.
This isn’t to say I don’t want rid of Jennings, but spending a first rounder on a corner seems like overkill.
by djafrot on Jan 17, 2011 5:54 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree we need pass rush help
but I would think with CC and a healthy Red that addressing corner would take priority
I don't think it's overkill.
Cornerback is arguably our area of most need. Trufant has been mediocre at best, plus he handcuffs us with his inability to work both sides of the field. That leaves Jennings (terrible) and Thurmond (rookie project).
Remember, it works in reverse too. All the pass rush in the world is pointless if we can’t cover their receivers at all.
by NinjaHawk on Jan 17, 2011 6:49 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
heresy
you don’t even need cornerbacks just a kick ass pass rush
exactly
how do you suppose Jennings was drafted so high in the first place?
by jubelthebear on Jan 17, 2011 6:55 PM PST up reply actions
Thats one of the points of the tampa 2
Get good pass rush from the front four and put them in a zone and you don’t need elite DBs.
We need a better pass rush.
Most successful Tampa 2 defenses have had very talented defensive backs.
I like the system less each passing year.
Yeah but most of our sacks come in the Bandit
That means we have a ton of DBs on the field. Thus, better pass rush means better DB.
I agree with you Nija,
I look at the version of the Tampa 2 / Cover 3 we run and know we need to improve our Zone CB play. I think we do need a lot better resources in starting CB and back up secondary. I also think we need someone to push Cole to a backup, depth behind Mebane, and challenge Red.
No, I am not asking for much.
Just make sure not to reach
Because if you reach for a CB who’s not really good enough to be a first-round pick, you wind up with someone like, oh I don’t know, Kelly Jennings.
by Suburban Shocker on Jan 18, 2011 7:34 AM PST up reply actions
I've been scouting a free agent CB on Baltimore.
He goes by the name of Josh Wilson. He could be a real difference maker in Seattle.
All joking aside, is Wilson really a free agent?
That would be a bit ironic if we signed him back. Didn’t we receive a 4th round pick or something for him?
Draft or FA acquisition
Truthfully, I think we need a #1 corner. If we got a top flight corner and pushed Tru to #2, we wouldn’t have nearly the same issues.
To get a #1, you’d probably have to pay for it though. Jonathan Joseph or Asomugha, perhaps?
Having another strong safety would be nice, but that’s another post: “Lawyer Milloy Retires.”
I thinkTru is a #2 corner at best. He hasn't performed to his contract.
by Trojan Knight on Jan 17, 2011 7:29 PM PST up reply actions
Need
Aso. Preciousssss…..
An open mind is like a fortress with its gates unbarred and unguarded.
by Corax --Nevermore-- on Jan 17, 2011 7:31 PM PST up reply actions
Wait Wilson is a FA this off-season???
Make the move PC!
Wheat Thins and Coke Zero?
Someone must be misreading the demographics of this site. I imagine 50-year-old women eating Wheat Things and drinking Coke Zero. Anyway, anecdotally, it seemed to me that Jennings played better this year. Seemed like he was more aggressive, although not always effective, in tackling. He also was not so visibly victimized as he’s been in years past. Maybe that’s because teams are now throwing at Tru more, maybe it’s scheme. Who knows.
He'll never be good if he can't develop ball skills.
And the guy is 28 years old and has been in the NFL for five seasons, so I don’t see that happening. He’s taller than Josh Wilson is and he may be better at man coverage, but he’s still not as good as Wilson is because he has no idea where the ball is. Remember Wilson’s game winning pick-six against Houston? Could you really see Jennings doing that?
Every picture of Kelly Jennings I see looks like this...
by central_scrutinizer on Jan 17, 2011 9:46 PM PST reply actions
Jennings
lost track of that last link.
by alexander_37 on Jan 17, 2011 11:06 PM PST up reply actions
Speaking of not so good DBs
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=nfp-20110117_broncos_to_hire_jim_mora_to_run_defense
Looks like the defensive backs in Denver are going to get mediocre really quick.
Jennings is a FA, so it depends on what he wants to bring him back
If he is a role player and at a role player price, fine, but he shouldn’t be a starter. That means we need a new starter through the draft, preferably. Not that I think Jennings is the problem with our secondary, I just don’t think that he is worth FA starting CB money. Our secondary will not be fixed until we get a decent and consistent pass rush.
You might be onto something here
A DB is probably a sleeper pick in the first round. With talent at quarterback and other positions, I expect the best DBs to be sitting there when Seattle picks.
It would make me chuckle if we resigned
Josh Wilson as a FA. A pick and the player would be a good deal.
I'd be all for it. We need more playmakers in our defensive backfield and guys that can actually catch the ball
When we rush 3 and drop 8 and then no one makes a play on the ball…ouch. It isn’t like we our “taller, stronger” DBs were jamming WRs or playing tight man coverage in any case (which is supposedly the rationale for not keeping Josh anyway)
According to Football Outsiders, Seattle finished dead last at defending number two wide receivers in 2010.
Goodbye Kelly Jennings, hello Tru/Thurmond as our starting CB’s.
John Hancock
I thought Thurmond looked positively promising in his limited time on the field
But it is a small sample size. I’m looking forward to having him out there for a lot more snaps in ’11 though.
We have at least two other player who should be re-signed ahead of Jennings.
Starting with Spencer, Mebane.
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I thought Thurmond looked positively promising in his limited time on the field
I completely agree.
John Hancock

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