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Position he's up for right now is undisclosed. Could be offensive coordinator, perhaps QB coach. Possibly both.

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Hire Bevell and then sign Sidney Rice

It makes perfect sense.

Fire Gus "What's a screen?" Bradley.

by SSreporters on Jan 19, 2011 11:23 AM PST reply actions  

Anyone else think..

That these types of hires only help our chances of getting some key free agents? For example, Gallery (OG) and Rice?

Ka-Kaaa!

by JerryNice on Jan 19, 2011 11:30 AM PST up reply actions  

I think there's a good chance Gallery will follow Cable

Cable and Gallery are like Gibbs and Hamilton. I’m not sure about Rice, tough.

by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Jan 19, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

now that's a bandwagon i can get on

We’re talking about as a QB right and not as a WR? Although I’m hoping he plays a few snaps as WR again so i can plug him into my fantasy football lineup as WR while he plays QB like i did last year, lol.

by plyka on Jan 19, 2011 12:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Helped develop Aaron Rodgers.

Managed to keep Favre and Childress together for at least one year.

by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 19, 2011 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Sando's saying

the offense is gonna have the Q/PM relationship we have at coach/GM. Cable is gonna have control of the offense, and he’s taking part in the OC hiring

by G-Mo on Jan 19, 2011 11:37 AM PST reply actions  

Thats the impression that I got as well

that the title of offensive coordinator isn’t going to mean to the Seahawks what it does for most teams.

by Nate Dogg on Jan 19, 2011 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

This isn't that uncommon for the Seahawks.

Mora for instance was the DB coach but the assistant head coach as well.

by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 19, 2011 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

But John Marshall was the unquestioned head of the defensive coaching staff.

I think Cable is going to have input in game plans and how games are called.

by Nate Dogg on Jan 19, 2011 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Mora had just as much pull in the gameplans for the defense.

Just didn’t call the plays. Its not like gameplans are ever done by just one person. Its always a collaborative effort. But on gameday only one person will call the plays at that will be the OC.

by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 19, 2011 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

The gameplans changed drastically when Mora took over as coach.

I really think that the new OC will have a minor role, kind of like Bates originally had in Denver when he called plays in 2008 but Shanahan was the guy in control.

by Nate Dogg on Jan 19, 2011 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Mora completely changed the philosophy of the defense.

Doesn’t mean he didn’t have a say in what John Marshall was doing.

But Cable and Carroll are on the same page for what they want to do on offense. So whoever comes in as the OC is probably going to fit right in. (Philosophy wise)

by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 19, 2011 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

His name is Darrell

And word out of Minnesota was he was interviewed yesterday for QB coach. Maybe now that McDaniels is with the Rams they are interviewing him for OC.

by Kevaru on Jan 19, 2011 11:46 AM PST reply actions  

Was that today's interview or yesterday's interview?

This was the report I read yesterday from Twin Cities’ ESPN radio:

Incumbent offensive coordinator Darrell Bevell, who remains under contract with the Vikings, was interviewing on Tuesday to be the Seattle Seahawks’ quarterbacks coach.

by Kevaru on Jan 19, 2011 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess what I'm wondering is was McDaniels their first choice

Sando mentioned yesterday too that Bevell was in interviewing for the QB coach job on Tuesday. I wonder if he was brought back in on Wednesday after McDaniels got the Rams job to interview again for both jobs.

by Kevaru on Jan 19, 2011 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe

but I can’t see McDaniels and an asst HC Cable coexisting on the same team. If McD was in the cards, I’d have to think that Cable was a fallback.

by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Jan 19, 2011 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Interesting point from the press conference

Pete said that Wash has a great relationship with Bradley. So I would take that to mean that Bradley isn’t going anywhere, even though our defense was on the bad side of terrible most of the year.

But as always the question remains: is it the players or the coordinator that made the defense bad?

by BennyGStein on Jan 19, 2011 11:57 AM PST reply actions  

Pete mentioned problems with the depth on the DL last year

That we played well to start but had big problems when Mebane/Cole/Red went down.

by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Jan 19, 2011 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Which is a very good point.

All that roster turnover created gaping holes in terms of depth. I still can’t believe that losing Bryant crippled our defensive plan.

And what about our secondary? They were their same bad selves most of the year. I hope some of our rookies make the jump in season 2 and we can bring in some stud veteran players to solidify it.

Needless to say (but i’ll say it anyway), we need to improve on all points of our defense.

by BennyGStein on Jan 19, 2011 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

LB doesn't really seem to be a problem

Getting a player that’ll push Cole to a backup and Terrill out the door for good will be the biggest difference maker possible IMO.
Assuming we resign MeBane.

Adding one Guard on the OL could change the whole line.

by vertigoman on Jan 19, 2011 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I think so

A Okung-Gallery-Spencer left side looks a lot better to me than an Okung-Pitts/Polumbus/Gibson-Spencer left side. With that set, the right side wouldn’t be as much of an issue.

by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Jan 19, 2011 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Gallery would be a great pickup

He just looks nasty. Not sure if he can spell R-E-S-P-E-C-T but he commands it.

by vertigoman on Jan 19, 2011 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe its wishful thinking

but I think the purpose of Cable’s hiring was to bring some nastiness to the OL.

by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Jan 19, 2011 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe a part of that is teaching

these guys what they can get away with.
Spencer seems like a player that is a nasty streak away from dominance.

by vertigoman on Jan 19, 2011 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

And yes

Okung
Gallery
Spencer/Unger

Starts to look pretty good

Spencer/Unger/Gibson
Andrew/??

The other side could take shape with competition and depth form the draft

by vertigoman on Jan 19, 2011 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

If they're looking to get physical and nasty and control the line of scrimmage then Unger is not their guy.

And if their comments earlier in the year about wanting to match up better against 3-4 lineman it’s another knock against him. Also, he was pretty awful his rookie year.

Hopefully he proves me wrong but he wouldn’t be the first player Pete schemed off the team.

by Nate Dogg on Jan 19, 2011 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

He was named the starting RG

Not so sure he’s obtained the “disappointment” title with Pete just yet.

He’s cheap. He’s young. Yes he was an over draft but that’s not his fault.

by vertigoman on Jan 19, 2011 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Pitts came as a package deal with Gibbs

and Andrews was traded for as a T cause of okung/to push Locklear (I think) Unger’s injury pushed him inside to G I believe.

by SgtSasquatch on Jan 19, 2011 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Pitts was still a FA after Gibbs left

He fit the system and had worked with Gibbs, but wasn’t tied to him.

by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Jan 19, 2011 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Can't remember

I think Andrews was just before the season so it must have been before he got hurt.
Pitts was a reclamation project. I’m not sure it had much to do with Unger specifically.

by vertigoman on Jan 19, 2011 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

It was like the day Gibbs retired

I remember us all wondering if we switching to regular blocking over night

by G-Mo on Jan 19, 2011 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I really like Polumbus

Maybe just cause of his hustle in the Beast Quake run. Was he terrible at RT on other teams? Maybe might fit in at RG

by G-Mo on Jan 19, 2011 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind a

Okung-Gallery-Spencer-[Draftee or FA]-Polumbus lineup. I think as long as we get new blood in at least two positions we could see a ton of improvement from the O-line.

The sun will shine on winter snow. And shadows fade In Excelsis Deo. GO HASSELBECK!!!

by Cheddar28 on Jan 19, 2011 11:57 PM PST up reply actions  

So the big headline on ESPN from the Carroll interview today

is that re-signing Hasselbeck is the team’s top priority and is “vitally important”. (HERE) It ends with a note on Bevell.

by Kevaru on Jan 19, 2011 12:44 PM PST reply actions  

Dammit all to hell.

Why on earth would Carroll say something like that before they even have an OC?

by Lanky on Jan 19, 2011 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

They're not going in a different direction with an OC

The guy they pick will be subordinate to Pete and, likely, Cable. The new OC will likely call plays but not necessarily define the offensive system. It would be like Mike Holmgren hiring an OC.

by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Jan 19, 2011 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

There's just no reason for it.

Making statements like Carroll’s may well do no harm, but it is definitely not doing any good. On the other hand, this new OC should be in charge of the passing game, right? He has a defense-minded head coach and a running game line coach, so it would seem that the OC is the guy most tied to the QB. And as such, I’m would imagine most candidates would rather hear “would you like Matt Hasselbeck or do you have someone else in mind” to “Matt Hasselbeck is your quaterback and you’re going to like it.”

by Lanky on Jan 19, 2011 1:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I read it as "Matt Hasselbeck is the best we've got right now"

“but we’re looking real hard at upgrading the position”. There’s also the possibility that Pete can say things to an OC candidate or Matt that he couldn’t say in a press conference.

by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Jan 19, 2011 1:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I listened to the press conference that was the primary source for the article

I don’t know what the article says.

For reference, Sando thinks that Pete said what he said because he can’t say anything until we get a Matt replacement in the draft.

by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Jan 19, 2011 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm not sure if you could have heard everything by listening to the press conference.

The article above made it sound like the strongest statement Carroll made regarding Matt was after he first walked away from the podium. So I’m not sure if that would have been caught if you were just listening on the radio or online, since the people broadcasting would have likely thought the press conference was over.

Pete Carroll was halfway off the stage when he walked back and dropped perhaps the biggest nugget regarding the Seattle Seahawks offseason.

Re-signing quarterback Matt Hasselbeck isn’t just important. It’s the Seahawks’ No. 1 priority, Carroll said.

“It’s the top priority in the program. You have to deal with this or you don’t understand the game and I think we understand it really well,” Carroll said. “That’s why the very first meeting after our team meeting was [general manager] John [Schneider] and I and Matt. I guess you gauge what you think of that in terms of sense of urgency. We couldn’t have done it more quickly.”

by Mind of no mind on Jan 19, 2011 3:31 PM PST up reply actions  

is it appropriate to

refer to an NFL franchise as a program?

Beam yourself up

I'm a one man rec'n crew

by jubelthebear on Jan 19, 2011 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

further to that

I heard Carroll say that the QB position is priority #1 – not Hasselbeck specifically.
He said it’s Hass, Whitehurst, free agents and the draft all coming together for a competition.

It was a political answer he was giving so no one got hurt. He’s not going to reveal important player decisions before they’re made officially.

by BennyGStein on Jan 19, 2011 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Except even on the official Seahawks website the headline is

“Carroll: Re-signing Hasselbeck “is a priority” and in it it says:

Carroll went farther than that when asked if he was proceeding as if Hasselbeck will be the starter next season. "I don’t think there’s any other way to look at it," Carroll said. "He’s our starting quarterback."

So unless there is some conspiracy among sports writers and the official Seahawk website, it looks like Pete is committed to Matt.

by Kevaru on Jan 19, 2011 3:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Pete's definitely committed to re-signing Matt

but there’s no way that he’s not looking at a QB with the 1st round pick. He mentioned several times that the QB position was the most important one, that he was looking to upgrade it and that, like every other position, it would be a competition.

About Charlie, he said that he needed more starts and that 2 games wasn’t enough to evaluate him.

by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Jan 19, 2011 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep - a conspiracy.

Maybe I misinterpreted what Pete Carroll was saying throughout the press conference, but it seemed like he wasn’t fully committed to Hasselbeck. He was very in favor of him, but he aslo said a lot about how Hass is a good mentor and how they’re trying to solidify and improve the QB position through developing Whitehurst, potential free agents and through the draft.

I’m not saying that Hasselbeck isn’t a priority for the franchise, I just don’t think it’s as overblown as some of the headlines are making it. The statements Pete made seemed fairly general in nature – ie he wasn’t saying, “Hass is our guy all of next year.”

by BennyGStein on Jan 19, 2011 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Which is where I got some of my inferences

I think they defintely want Matt back – especially with a lockout looming and with the current QB situation all but resolved. But it should be an open competition for the starting gig.

by BennyGStein on Jan 19, 2011 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

The new offensive coordinator is going to fit Petes philosophy

I doubt the cares about what candidates he alienates because they’re not guys he was going to want anyways.

by Nate Dogg on Jan 19, 2011 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Of course. But Matt Hasselbeck is probably not the only QB that matches Pete's philosophy, right?

Do you think thinking Matt Hasselbeck is the best quaterback for the team is a OC prerequisite?

by Lanky on Jan 19, 2011 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, awesome.

So the team’s entire offensive philosophy is oriented around a noodle-armed, mid-30’s quarterback. Maybe Pete should let someone who knows offense actually deal with the, uh, offense?

by djafrot on Jan 19, 2011 1:10 PM PST up reply actions  

hasselbeck

Is a witch of some sort, using voodoo of some nature to force Pete into thinking that hass is Montana reincarnate…in his prime no less.

by plyka on Jan 19, 2011 4:24 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Looks like another off season of "the sky is falling" commentry?

Thoughts on stuff I’ve read in the past 3-4 threads:

-Enough with the “we’re going to run the ball all the time”. Pete made it clear he wants a physical and nasty O-line. He believes, and many have echoed, that this makes your whole team better. Including the passing game. I agree 110%. Remember 2005? I don’t think our skill players on offense were that different than what we have now. We were not loaded with elite receivers.

-Pete wants everyone on the same page as him philosophically. Maybe he’s right, maybe he’s wrong, but the man has a track record off having coaches get hired by others and not skipping a beat.

-Hass. I’m not a fan, but who else? You want to go into next season giving Charlie the Job? Or do you want him competing? If you don’t sign Hass you have to bring someone in. Is Orton any better? Is he worth the pick? Is Kolb worth 1/2 your picks?

Hass and Charlie is better than Charlie and nothing. Pete has shown he will give Charlie a chance. In week 17, our biggest game of the season to that point, he started Charlie over a Matt.

Pete is not the only HC in the league that has final say over coaches, personnel and direction. He’s made it clear everyone must believe in his direction.

/rant

by BigWalt on Jan 19, 2011 1:30 PM PST reply actions  

I agree.

I think a competitive Hass/Charlie situation with a young viable QB is th best we can hope for right now.

This is part of the reason I think Hass returning is a done deal unless he wants to move on.

by BigWalt on Jan 19, 2011 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

What about Nate Davis?

If he gets himself in proper shape, and finds the motivation, I really like the possibility with his big arm and mobility. He’s had some pre-season experience so not a rookie, but still young, and was passed over by Singletary, the man that single handedly set the niners back a good year or three.

by Hawksince77 on Jan 19, 2011 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I really liked his pocket presense...

…and the way he kept his eyes downfield while avoiding the rush. He didn’t take a sack that I saw in his 2 pre-season games, and threw the ball away a couple of times.

One of his throws went 65 yards in the air for a completion. He looked really good.

by Hawksince77 on Jan 19, 2011 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought CW looked very skittish in his game against the Rams...

…like he was running scared. Not good for a guy who has been around so long.

Compare his lack of composure to Joe Webb, a rookie QB beating the Eagles after being drafted as a WR, or as I already mentioned, Nate Davis.

I had high hopes for CW, and was the first one to argue that he needed a number of starts in order to develop, but I don’t know anymore. He has been very unimpressive on the field this year.

by Hawksince77 on Jan 19, 2011 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

And finally...

…I am not a fan of keeping Hasslebeck as the starting QB. He hamstrings the offense by his limited arm and mobility.

But that’s just me.

by Hawksince77 on Jan 19, 2011 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

im a huge

Joe Webb fan. The Vikings have something with Webb if they want to spend some time developing. He is one of the best athletes I’ve seen at any position and has a strong ARM. He is so raw though. It’ll take time.

by plyka on Jan 19, 2011 4:30 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Agreed.

I’m not looking forward to the “FRANCHIZE OVER!!” comments that will inevitably follow a coaching shakeup.

by purplepansy on Jan 19, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Go look back at the Bates firing thread.

There were definitely comments to this effect. Someone specifically said they just completely lost faith in Carroll’s regime. Another said welcome to four more years of Hasselbeck, which, if you follow popular thought here, would be a very unwelcome prospect. I’m not saying everyone reacted or will react this way, but we definitely can’ tsay no one has.

by purplepansy on Jan 19, 2011 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Unexpectedly firing a bright young coordinator is discouraging.

And the four more years of Hasselbeck comment was a joke about hiring Zorn.

by Nate Dogg on Jan 19, 2011 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes it is discouraging.

I’m just saying I wasn’t looking forward to the hyper-ventilating comments that followed immediately and could continue after our next hire. The Hass comment I was referring to actually says three years an comes way before any Zorn comments. Look, for the most part everyone here is civil and rational and there’s been some great discussions. But, there will always be people in the community that overreact, and I don’t look forward to those future comments, and I didn’t like reading the previous ones. That doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

by purplepansy on Jan 19, 2011 3:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm getting the sensation that "overreacting" means any criticism at all.

The firing of Bates isn’t the first black mark on Pete’s tenure as the leader of the Seahawks. To see it as evidence that the team is going in the wrong direction isn’t “hyper-ventilating”.

by djafrot on Jan 19, 2011 4:08 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Well that's a weird sensation

considering my comments have said or implied nothing of the sort. I’m not even saying I agree with the firing of Bates. If you don’t think “I just lost all faith in our FO” and “welcome to three more years of Matt Hasselbeck” is an over-reaction to the firing of Bates, I can’t help you.

by purplepansy on Jan 19, 2011 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Honestly, I don't see a lot of that around here.

I think your reaction to this perceived overreaction is overreaction.

by djafrot on Jan 19, 2011 6:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I just don't get where this comment is coming from.

To act like I said that anyone that sees this as evidence of going in the wrong direction is over-reacting is patently ridiculous. I’m on record as one of the people disappointed in this firing!

by purplepansy on Jan 19, 2011 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I was too

and I might be one of the bigger Pete Carroll apologists around.

by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Jan 19, 2011 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Here's another link

Clayton reporting that the #Seahawks have offered Darrell Bevell the offensive coordinator position.

http://twitter.com/Liz_Mathews/status/27879730514501632

by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Jan 19, 2011 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I assume Bevell is a QB guru type

And that the offer is being made so he can help groom the next franchise QB.

Incorrect assumption?

by BennyGStein on Jan 19, 2011 4:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know about that

He worked with Favre/Rodgers for one year in 2005 and then moved to Minnesota.

He was an OC under an offensive-minded coach, so he didn’t have a ton of power. Sando was saying his WCO lineage was more like Holmgren’s than Shannahan’s. He was part of an offense that took off with Favre and was able to feature Harvin’s special talents outside of the traditional WR role.

by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Jan 19, 2011 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

wow

What a step in the wrong direction! Here is to hoping that cable will be the real OC. I just love what he did with the raiders offense. Resurrected mcfadden into a top RB of this league and in my opinion had the best rushing attack along with KC. Bevell on the other hand was responsible for a pathetic offense while having the premier RB in the league.

by plyka on Jan 19, 2011 4:36 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

at least he'll be comfortable

with a pathetic offense/QB in Seattle.

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by Hancock.Brett on Jan 19, 2011 4:39 PM PST up reply actions  

You love the idea of Joe Webb

But don’t want the OC that built the game plan for him to succeed?

by Scruffy Lefty on Jan 19, 2011 8:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Off Topic: No Jim Mora, Jr. this year

http://www.milehighreport.com/2011/1/19/1944962/jim-mora-will-not-coach-this-year

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Jan 19, 2011 4:35 PM PST reply actions  

Dammit.

That would be entertaining.

by djafrot on Jan 19, 2011 6:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Unfortunately for anyone who watches football on TV...

…is that he’ll be doing ‘analysis’ for us all to tune out as best we can.

Hasseldone.

by Misfit74 on Jan 19, 2011 9:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Here's Sando take on Bevell:
Bevell and the Vikings ran a West Coast system with at least some ties to what the Seahawks have been running. Bevell’s ties to former Vikings coach Brad Childress link back to Philadelphia Eagles coach Andy Reid and, by extension, to former Seahawks coach Mike Holmgren.

Bates’ offense aligns more closely with Mike Shanahan’s version of the West Coast system. It all traces back to Bill Walsh, but Bevell’s roots trace more directly to Holmgren than to Bates or Shanahan. Bevell and Seahawks quarterback Matt Hasselbeck were together in Green Bay.

If the Seahawks hire Bevell, I would expect Bevell and offensive line coach Tom Cable to combine their efforts in shaping the offense. Cable’s influence will be significant. This team will not ignore the running game.

Bevell did take over play calling from Childress in 2007, and the offense seemed to perk up.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/31872/clayton-seahawks-targeting-bevell

by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Jan 19, 2011 4:48 PM PST reply actions  

Well Reid and Holmgren are QB guys though.

I’m not sure this is a move in the wrong direction – it’s hard to say what his approach will be.

by BennyGStein on Jan 19, 2011 4:52 PM PST up reply actions  

as long as I see pro-set

on 45% of the offensive plays then I’m set.

Beam yourself up

I'm a one man rec'n crew

by jubelthebear on Jan 19, 2011 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Really?

You don’t see a lot of Pro-Set these days.

by djafrot on Jan 19, 2011 6:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Seems to be official now.

Seattle Times

If I'm going to root for an all-tools QB starting for my Seahawks it better be Jake Locker.

by The Manchild on Jan 20, 2011 2:45 PM PST reply actions  

Link

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/seahawks/2013990583_hawk21.html

If I'm going to root for an all-tools QB starting for my Seahawks it better be Jake Locker.

by The Manchild on Jan 20, 2011 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

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