The Official FieldGulls Fantasy Football Thread. Week 8 Edition.
It’s Vicks "Sleeper of the Week" time. Get it, "sleeper?" Not gonna lie. It’s still kinda funny! This is one of those times when I appreciate advertisers who actually try. And to be honest, in those rare instances when I am sick, I am a fan of NyQuil. As Denis Leary said (and Bill Hicks probably wrote…) "NyQuil. The sniffling sneezing how-the-hell-did-I-get-on-my-kitchen-floor medicine."
This IS the post for fantasy football talk. You can, if you must, add fantasy talk in additional game threads, but be warned, someone may be watching, and they may be mocking. Here, you have free rein to talk your team’s reign or your rain of injuries. Something to note, and this should be a true football fan’s golden ticket when it comes to heaven and hell and the voiding of the warranty on your soul.
The first rule of Fantasy Football, you do NOT root for players against the Seahawks.
The second rule of Fantasy Football, you do NOT root for players against the Seahawks.
On this site, for sake of your own health, NEVER cheer against the Seahawks due to your fantasy roster. My personal rule is to avoid as much as possible acquiring division rivals, or to avoid playing them against the Seahawks if reasonably possible. Statements like, "Well, at least I have Larry Fitzgerald on my fantasy team" (if) he was scorching the Hawks will unleash the hounds of hell upon you. Please don’t be that one bastard playing the "Don’t Come" line at the craps table. Not only will you bring bad mojo to everybody, but you’ll likely get verbally harassed, if not banned. You’re a Seahawk fan, you aren’t "that guy" you are one of OUR guys—act like it!
Trick or Treat.
Halloween week, why not, eh?
Anyone else been living a horror with regard to money league teams? The power has already gone out on my season. Andre Johnson decided to go down the stairs (in the dark) to check the fuse box in the basement. Invariably alone, of course. And, since he didn’t reappear in a timely way, his WR squad-mate Vincent Jackson decided to go check on Andre. They’re still both bumbling around alone in the dark, and weird creepy music is playing. It’s not looking good.
Fortunately it’s early in the movie, and I’m hoping both will survive a while longer. Besides, my team is ethnically diverse, so neither will get jacked because he’s the "token black guy." If anything, Erik Decker should be terrified that he stayed upstairs with Doug Baldwin and Sidney Rice, all three of whom at this point might as well be wearing red Starfleet uniforms.
Meanwhile, I traded Roddy White, almost out of spite. He’s 2nd in the league in targets, but in the bottom of the top 20 in WR scoring. His underperformance killed me with the other two banged up on a weekly basis. Understand, it is a keeper league, so I gave up on his $44 contract for a 6th rounder and the hope that is a Jamaal Charles ($11) injury rebound in 2012.
While my WR core has been stumbling around in the basement, LeGarrette Blount, Antonio Gates, and my defensive line tandem of Osi Umenyiora and Elvis Dumervil have decided to go searching for help. They entered the woods while the moon was hidden by cloud cover. Then they decide to split up because Blount was certain "they’ll cover more ground." Sure.. cover more ground… with their severed limbs and decapitated heads. The moon just showed itself, and I’m hoping there’s no werewolves out there to destroy what’s left of my team.
Speaking of which… did Jason have superhuman strength? I always wondered why everyone didn’t just band together and kick the living hell out of him. I mean, he always seemed to lumber around in that hockey mask, why not just sit tight with a bunch of baseball bats and then attack him instead? I mean, this guy took on like 5 crazed zombies alone with a metal bat, why couldn’t a bunch of high school kids do the same?!? (link language NSFW).
A Southern Horror Story; The Crash of the Titans.
Is anyone still relying on the Tennessee Titan Offense? If so, you've doomed yourself to purgatory, my friend.
This team makes zero sense. They pulled off a win against a tough Jacksonville D (based more on Jax lack of O), and put an average of 28.5 against Cleveland and Baltimore, but struggled against injury riddled Denver (see Dumervil, Elvis), putting only 17 on the board. The 17 they got against the Steelers sounds about right. But then the worst D they’ve faced this year is Houston, and that was their worst performance-- in a game that was extremely significant to their post season hopes.
What’s next for our former QB? Aside from two games against Indianapolis, a whole lot of hurt. There are some scary defenses coming, and not a single "bad" team. Cincy, @Carolina, @Atlanta, Tampa Bay, @Buffalo (in December), hosting a New Orleans team in week 14 that will be jockeying for playoff position, then @Jax and @Houston in yet another season ending game for Houston that could determine if they get into the playoffs, or perhaps this year, at what seeding.
Yes, Matt Hasselbeck had a great start to his season. But I notice I haven’t heard as many Seahawk fans of late bemoaning the loss of Hasselbeck, even with last week’s terrible offensive performance. Hasselbeck’s last two weeks he was a combined 43-79 (54%) with 2 TD, 3 INT. For the season his "comeback year" includes 10 TD/6 INT (+1 fumble lost). His yardage appears to be better than the past couple seasons, but he’s still on pace for only around 3600 yards. Not exactly eye popping in this QB friendly era. He’s now 13thand falling in my league’s scoring. He is certainly not worthy of being a QB1, and is now only a bye week option at best. But then, if you thought anything else prior, you obviously have been wearing blinders. As Denny Green famously said, "He is who we thought he was."
Kenny Britt of course was on his way to a true WR1 elite breakout season before being derailed in week 3. He might be a good buy low candidate in a keeper league, but his off the field issues make for troubling long term prospects. Nate Washington has been inconsistent at best, and nobody, including TE Jared Cook else has done much to pick up numbers in Britt’s absence. Given Hasselbeck’s dump down tendency, you would think that Cook would be a legitimate TE1 by this point in the season, but it simply hasn’t happened. Not even the RB’s, both of whom are solid receiving threats out of the backfield, have seen an increase in pass catching. If anything, Chris Johnson has gone downhill there as well as with his rushing.
And what exactly is wrong with Chris Johnson? There are whispers around the league that his speed is down, though the Titans say that isn’t the case. I’ve heard talk he’s hesitant. Personally, I’m curious if Hasselbeck’s limitations have allowed for not only 8+ in the box, but unlike in the Collins/Young period, a lack of fear of the over-the-top throw or the running threat at QB.
Regardless, the 190 pound running back who went for 2006 yards in the 2009 season (on 358 carries, along with 50 receptions for 503 yards) hasn’t looked quite the same since. Perhaps the "law of 370" needs to be amended to include receptions? If so, his 408 total touches in 2009 has long term implications. The great thing about the sourced article, it is a little dated and specifically notes Chris Johnson was safe due to being just a little short of the dreaded 370. But again, as a receiver/runner, he took significant additional pounding.
I’m just not sure what to think. Is Hasselbeck and the loss of Britt partially to fault? We’re not talking about a slight dropoff. He’s 31st in the league in rushing yardage. That’s unacceptable to a fantasy owner. His trade value has never been lower. Because of that, I would keep him around in the hope of some improved performance.
Weekly Sleeper Pick
Pierre Thomas, RB New Orleans. Mark Ingram has been ruled out this week, and while Darren Sproles should continue to get touches, most of those will come in the passing game. Thomas got 125 yards last week, and when the Saints settle down and look to grind out the clock for near certain win in the 2nd half, it will be Pierre Thomas getting the bulk of the carries. He’s likely on the waiver wire in many leagues, and will likely put up RB1 or at worst RB2 numbers this week. Grab him as a one week flier, with the potential for Ingram to sit through the Saints bye (week 11) if his situation does not improve prior.
Hopefully I finally pick one right. I don’t think my logic has been wrong yet, although the performance has been overshadowed by other "sleeper picks" on a weekly basis. Such is life. Good luck with your fantasy teams this week, and good luck to the Seahawks! I would rather lose a fun game to watch than win a game like last week. I don’t know if I can take another Field Goal fest. This isn’t soccer. Score some damn points!!!
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I have Chris Johnson in one league and am 3-4
I don’t have him in another and am 6-1. COINCIDENCE?!
(that second team is kind of ridiculously over-stocked though. QB: Brees, Schaub. WR: Nicks, Maclin, Boldin RB: Ray Rice, Fred Jackson, Murray, Bradshaw. TE: Finley. K: Bailey. DEF: Packers and NYG)
(this was my little bragging moment)
PS: Chris Johnson has had the toughest fantasy schedule of any RB in the league so far.
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i have c johnson and a gates
johnson came at the 3rd overall pick of the draft, didn’t want him, didn’t want to let someone else have him with the 4th or later pick. sigh
" Mike Brown is the owner that Cincy doesn't deserve, not the one it needs..."
He dropped to 7th for me
I didn’t really want him, I never liked him, but couldn’t let him slip at that spot.
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by Thomas Beekers on Oct 30, 2011 1:06 AM PDT up reply actions
This may be the turning point week for me and CJ.
If he can’t do it against Indy, I’m done.
by TrynZushi on Oct 29, 2011 1:38 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Jason Was
Superhumanly strong
From comic Vine
Crushed a 6 ft mans skull with his bare hands in Friday the 13th the final chapter, barged through a reinforced wooden door in one turn turning the door into flying wooden shards, threw a 6ft 4 man 12 ft away Jason takes Manhattan, survives a barrage of punches from a boxing elite teenager then punches his head clean off his body with one hit, in Freddy vs Jason he stabs a boy who’s lying on his bed till he dies then folds the bed in half crushing him he also threw Freddy at least 14 meters in front of him a far distance with one arm like a projectile. These are just some of the feats Jason has performed during his career as the dreadful Camp Crystal Lake killer.
Live work and breathe like an optimist.
Nothing after the first movie really counts in my book... because it's all sequalized from there.
But that being said, fair enough. He was strong. I still believe baseball bats to the head can pretty much take care of anyone, however…
"How much blow can Charlie Sheen do? Enough to kill two and a half men." -Jon Lovitz
by Tyler Jorgensen on Oct 30, 2011 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions
I blew up my 3-4 team after a 3-1 start
Rivers is gone. I quit on him. Same with DeSean Jackson. In turn I won Matt Schaub and Mike Tolbert in separate deals with separate teams.
Really didn’t want to do it, but I gave up Greg Jennings in the deal and stupidly accepted Doug Baldwin in the Schaub for Rivers trade, but I wasn’t interested in week-long negotiations with a two-day processing period. The only other quality receiver on Lord Humongous’ roster I could realistically get was Kevin Walter.
Still, I’m hoping adding Schaub and Tolbert offsets the points I lose with giving up Jennings (especially with Rodgers spreading the ball around a lot), DeSean Jackson, and Devin Hester.
Also picked up Devery Henderson and Mike Thomas (JAC).
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
I'm pretty much going to bank on Whitehurst/Jackson to throw to Baldwin at will
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
Oh god.
I dumped Plaxico last week and started Baldwin. I still won, but barely.
"You SUCK, Keary Colbert! You should be selling insurance. INSURANCE, Keary!
-Random drunk Hawks fan in Miami after watching Keary Colbert drop another wide-open pass.
It's Great To Be a Florida Gator!
by Wayward Llama on Oct 29, 2011 4:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Plax is not a strong start.
He may have gotten 3 TD’s, but it was on a mere 25 yards. He’s by no means a reliable start.
"How much blow can Charlie Sheen do? Enough to kill two and a half men." -Jon Lovitz
by Tyler Jorgensen on Oct 30, 2011 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Sounds like you just wrapped the league up for Humongous.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
I don't think the Saints D/ST has been claimed in my league
Should I pick them up with Feeley waiting in the wings for them to feast upon?
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
definately not a bad option
depending on who you have right now.
And Saints were picked up a while ago
So I’ll stick with the Redskins and their pass-rush.
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
I was going to do this.
"You SUCK, Keary Colbert! You should be selling insurance. INSURANCE, Keary!
-Random drunk Hawks fan in Miami after watching Keary Colbert drop another wide-open pass.
It's Great To Be a Florida Gator!
by Wayward Llama on Oct 29, 2011 4:33 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks!
"How much blow can Charlie Sheen do? Enough to kill two and a half men." -Jon Lovitz
by Tyler Jorgensen on Oct 30, 2011 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions
If CJ0K can't get it done against Indy this weekend then I'm done with him.
I’ll trade him if possible and bench him if not.
i benched him this week
and know the bastage will finally put up big numbers. he’s been killing me each week though.
" Mike Brown is the owner that Cincy doesn't deserve, not the one it needs..."
Jason got cyborg powers in "Jason X" AKA "Jason Goes To Space"
That movie is awesomely bad and everyone needs to watch it.
I enjoyed Jason in Space
But it was no Critters in Space.
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by Thomas Beekers on Oct 28, 2011 9:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Only on Field Gulls can a discussion of Seahawks football veer into a discussion of bad horror movies.
It’s why I keep coming back here.
Oh please
Critters were much better in da hood than Leprechaun, it had Leonardo Dicaprio!
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by Thomas Beekers on Oct 28, 2011 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Leo DiCaprio had one of the weirdest career arcs ever
He always had great acting talent, getting an Oscar nod for “What’s Eating Gilbert Grape”. Then “Titanic” came around and he was stuck with the “teenybopper” label for years, easy to hate. Then he became Martin Scorcese’s favorite actor, and after nearly a decade of that plus respected turns in “Inception” people like him again.
I for one never forgot he's good
Though not so much because of Grape as because of the Basketball Diaries.
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by Thomas Beekers on Oct 29, 2011 2:15 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
That movie haunted me when I first saw it. I need a re-watch, I haven't seen it in 20 years.
"How much blow can Charlie Sheen do? Enough to kill two and a half men." -Jon Lovitz
by Tyler Jorgensen on Oct 30, 2011 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions
torn between wr3 Jacoby Jones or Torrey Smith
Was last week on Flacco or is the Jags pass D really tht good?
by TrynZushi on Oct 29, 2011 1:45 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Jags D is legit.
(I know this is late, but remember that going forward. They’re strong.)
"How much blow can Charlie Sheen do? Enough to kill two and a half men." -Jon Lovitz
by Tyler Jorgensen on Oct 30, 2011 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Thomas got 125 yards last week, and when the Saints settle down and look to grind out the clock for near certain win in the 2nd half, it will be Pierre Thomas getting the bulk of the carries.
So you think the saints are going to risk getting Pierre hurt when the game is already won? Chris Ivory will be getting mop up carries. Maybe y’all remember him from our regular season game last year. This is his “preseason” game, a time to get him some runs after being on PUP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmYPj9a_bF8&feature=related
And shepherds we shall be, for thee my Lord for thee, Power hath descended forth from thy hand, that our feet may swiftly carry out thy command, we shall flow a river forth to thee, and teeming with souls shall it ever be. In nomine patris, et filii, et spiritus sancti.
Uhm... oops.
I guess we all missed this one by a mile.
But yes, I would have thought Pierre would have been the workhorse regardless. And up here in the state of Washington, many of us remember Chris Ivory — from his college days, not simply his Saints days.
"How much blow can Charlie Sheen do? Enough to kill two and a half men." -Jon Lovitz
by Tyler Jorgensen on Oct 30, 2011 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions
.5 ppr league
For the flex position, what do you guys think of Moreno or Antonio Brown?
Any points for return yards? Then Brown is the better start, if a risky one
Moreno is kinda meh and not the best matchup but he’s definitely the safer start.
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by Thomas Beekers on Oct 30, 2011 1:08 AM PDT up reply actions
I would start Brown
Ben keeps throwing the ball to him on DeSean Jackson type routes. He has to break through with a few TD receptions at some point, and the NE secondary is POOR
I think Moreno has a lot less upside with Tebow at QB – I just don’t see him getting any goal line touches with Tebow in the backfield – think Cam Newton and the Carolina RBs
Smashmouth is the new sexy!
I agree with Brown right now. Denver's a mess.
"How much blow can Charlie Sheen do? Enough to kill two and a half men." -Jon Lovitz
by Tyler Jorgensen on Oct 30, 2011 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions

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