Kelly's Heroes: The Seahawks and the Screen Pass, Part I
I wish I had some statistics in front of me and I'm too lazy to try and dig up some kind of number on how well the Seahawks run the screen pass, but if I had to guess they're pretty sh*tty at it. I'm relying on memory and a biased perception, but it seems to me that they always try to run their screen passes as a sort of last-ditch effort on third and long and it never works. (I don't know if that's entirely accurate, but that's just my memory on it)
Why doesn't it work? Well, a screen is a very slow developing play and requires an element of surprise. Running a screen in an obvious passing situation like 3rd and long can be ineffective because of two things. One, if the defense all-out blitzes and the offense can't pick it up for long enough, the play is dead. You need a few seconds to let things develop downfield before you can dump it off underneath and give the runner some room to breathe. Also, a lot of players anticipate a screen in those situations and can sniff it out easier.
Second, in a 3rd and long or obvious passing situation, teams tend to drop more defenders back into coverage and blocking downfield becomes harder. Teams won't send as many players into pass rushing, maybe only sending three or four guys, and because a screen is inviting a pass rush to draw the defensive linemen and ends forward, if they're dropping back into zone the screen just won't work.
In other words, for a screen play to succeed, you have to attack the defense where it's most vulnerable, and that means you let the pass rushers come toward you enough to take them out of the 0-5 yard downfield zone and let the defensive backs get far enough downfield in coverage that there's a little bit of breathing room in that intermediate area.
It was so refreshing to see the Seahawks run two very well executed screens in last week's game versus Atlanta and it's why the screen-pass running Seahawks are my heroes this week.
I'm going to break this post into two posts two avoid a picture overload, but let's start with a 26-yard scamper on a screen by Marshawn Lynch. First thing that jumps out to me on this play? Down and distance. It's 1st and 10, from the Seahawks 28 yard line with 7:02 left in the 3rd quarter, Seahawks down 27-14. Running a screen on 1st and 10??? No way! But I like it!
Seahawks in a three wide receiver, one tight end set with Tarvaris Jackson in the shotgun, Marshawn Lynch to his right. The Falcons look like they're in a pretty standard cover-2 nickel with the corners rolled up in relatively close coverage, and the strongside nickelback lined up opposite Doug Baldwin in the slot.
Ball is snapped, Lynch runs forward a bit, feigning pass pro. Doug Baldwin and Zach Miller run crossing routes in the middle of the field that do a pretty good job of occupying Atlanta's two linebackers and the nickelback. Both Sidney Rice (R) and Ben Obomanu (L) run deep sideline routes to take their matched up corners downfield.
You can see now that the nickelback for Atlanta has bit on Baldwin's route and has his back to the action. The middle linebacker, not shown, is still with the play just to the right of the screen. RG John Moffitt and C Max Unger have delay-pulled and are making their way down field to block for Lynch, who is just about to receive the pass.
Lynch bellies up to Moffitt and Unger looks to take on the MLB.
Lynch actually shoves Moffitt into the attacking safety here and John does a good job of engaging him. He also knocks himself silly on the hit. Unger does a good enough job to spring Lynch past Atlanta's oncoming middle linebacker.
Lynch waddles forward for another 16 yards or so and LG Paul McQuistan drives him and Lynch's would be tacklers home. Nice play on a first down to get the Seahawks 26 yards and into Falcons' territory.
Screen passes can be so deadly and frustrating to the opposing defense. Furthermore, they augment a running game for the Seahawks that hasn't really gotten roots yet and gets our backs involved and out into open space. This line is partly built on athleticism and the ability to get downfield, theoretically, and Unger and Moffitt did a great job on this one.
Three plays later, the Hawks would run another very successful screen on a 2nd down. I'll show you that one shortly.
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If stats made more sense and this was counted as a run rather than a reception
Lynch’s running numbers go up to 9 rushes for 50 yards and a TD. Pretty good!
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Yep!
I was actually going to ask you, so here’s a good spot for it. What is your perception of how and when the Seahawks use the screen? Think I’m off on the ‘3rd and long only’ usage prior to this season? That was just my frustrated perception but I didn’t look deeply into it.
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Actually, my perception is fairly the same
But like, I suspect my perception is skewed by frustration. If anyone can cite examples or data on our usage I’d love to hear it, I just don’t have any facts ready to go here
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by Thomas Beekers on Oct 4, 2011 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm interested
Beekers, do you really think stats should be adjusted in this way? To me, it’s not a run just because the ball was caught behind the line of scrimmage. The blocking is totally different on a play like this, the skill set of the RB is different (not all RBs are effective in screens/dump offs), the role of the QB is different…so why would we call it the same as a run? I hear coaches say things like “we were using X pass play to X player to supplement our run game,” but it just doesn’t make sense to me. So I’d be interested to hear why you think counting these as rushing yards would make more sense.
It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome.
It's tough to just break things down by "run" or "pass".
In the sense that this play requires a pretty good amount of skill by the quarterback and, well, the ball is thrown forward, it’s definitely a pass. The thing is, it’s not a pass the same way that, say, that bomb to Rice was a pass, just as an end around isn’t a run the way Marshawn’s counter for a TD was a run. Just because taxonomy requires us to group things a certain way doesn’t mean we have to think about every play that is technically a run or a pass the same way. I think that’s what Thomas was trying to say.
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I don't
The current stat system is flawed but you can’t just adjust like that. I wasn’t saying it to make point about statistics, I was saying it because for all intents and purposes the yardage in this play was all on Lynch, and credit is where credit’s due, rather than just looking at his running numbers and thinking he had a shitty game.
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by Thomas Beekers on Oct 5, 2011 6:18 AM PDT up reply actions
What I ntice about the presnap photo
Is 2 safeties 15 yards away from the line of schrimage. Amazing what throwing the ball downfield will do to open up your screening game.
Hah, yeah, the opposing defense certainly looked different the first two weeks
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by Thomas Beekers on Oct 4, 2011 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions
This offensive line fits my prototype a "good" screen line
We have…
1. Interior linemen that can pull and run — It’s the centers and guards that are most likely on the move. It’s always good when you have guys that can play in space.
2. Interior linemen that can hit defenders on the move — It’s so common to see big guys get out in front but who can’t hit anything out in space. Some of that was Lynch doing a good job of using his blockers (or, not being much faster than Moffitt), but both Moffitt and Unger laid hands on defenders in space.
3. Receivers that operate well in space — Oddly, I was thinking Force and Washington more than Lynch but I recall Beef Moe catching screens at Cal. He hasn’t caught it much in the pros. I think our TEs can potentially be good on the occasional surprise middle screen. I’m not crazy about our WRs on screens, unless they can get Tate on the field.
I was glad to finally see the screen game unveiled. I’d been waiting for it.
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Yeah, if memory serves Shaun Alexander had some great screens but also outran his blocking a few times.
This was nice to see, especially after watching the Seahawks get murdered by screens so much the past few years.
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by Johnny Slick on Oct 4, 2011 5:16 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
one of the things that impressed me about Moffitt int he preseason
Was his consistent ability to pull effectively in front of Leon. Nice to see athletic freakage in an assignment-correct Guard.
by bleedshawkblue on Oct 4, 2011 7:06 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
i couldn't stop laughing on that play
moffitt was gearing up to block and lynch gave one of this ridiculous stiff arm and im surprised moffitt didn’t suffer a concussion

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