Ask a Giants fan
by Willgfass on Oct 5, 2011 5:14 PM PDT
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PrintHello Seahawks fans, my name's Will. I usually do this thing. You may remember me from such great fanposts as "Ask a Giants Fan (2010)" and.... well that's all I have for the Simpsons allusion.
I see we've already became well acquainted with each other. Definitely hyperbole on both sides, but hey if you guys are going to dish out some humor, be prepared for it back.
In the spirit of finding common ground, I present this:
via planetrobot.net
Some random stats that have no bearing to anything:
Eli Manning is 2-2 vs the Seahawks, including winning two of his last starts and 1-1 in Seattle.
Tarvaris Jackson (the only Tarvaris in NFL history) is 2-0 vs the Giants, although one game was vs predominantly back ups at the end of 2008.
Tom Coughlin is 3-5 overall vs the Seahawks, 1-3 while coaching the Jags, 2-2 as the coach of the Giants
Pete Carroll is 1-1 vs the Giants, with his last win in 1999 as head coach of the Patriots.
Questions? Want to express your misplaced Eli hate? And no just because I'm from New Jersey means I have a bad tan or have met Snooki.
(Also, if I say LOL, I mean Lord of the Lambs. No l33t sp33k hear.)
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Hello.
I’m looking forward to the match up between Osi and Okung, our Left Tackle.
What matchups are you most looking forward to this week?
Futurely known as BundyBundyBear (Aussie homer).
Whoever is covering Hakeem Nicks...
That should be the one to watch.
Win ugly.
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 5, 2011 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions
I like this
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
We don't do man assignments
Our corners cover the left and right sides, and never change. It’s pretty easy to exploit for offensive coordinators.
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by Thomas Beekers on Oct 5, 2011 3:46 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
And pretty frustrating for our fan base...
as you MAY be able to tell.
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Oct 5, 2011 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions
Defensive assignments that the fanbase doesn't agree with?
Yeah we understand
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Please
Do elaborate, I had thought that the Giants were always one of the more solid defensive teams out there. I can’t imagine you’re thinking about the DL, those guys are really good (when not hurt/holding out)
Hence to fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence lies in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.
-Sun Tzu-
We play a zone defense...a weird version of the Tampa-2
And our CBs are not zone corners. They excel in man-to-man coverage. The injuries in our secondary have further exposed the zone scheme that we are in right now.
Also, while our LBs are decent, I do not think they are good enough for a zone scheme. They’d be much better in a base 4-3. I’d like to think most Giants fans believe this to be the case.
Team Greg Jones
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by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 5, 2011 9:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, at least you didn't take the best man to man cover man in the league,
and then pay him a monstrously huge contract in order to watch him struggle while playing a nearly straight zone defense. The fact that it’s your rivals that did that sure breaks your heart I’m sure…
"How much blow can Charlie Sheen do? Enough to kill two and a half men." -Jon Lovitz
by Tyler Jorgensen on Oct 5, 2011 10:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Thats what happens when you take your O-line coach and make him the Defensive Coordinator
by Late for Dinner on Oct 6, 2011 5:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Al Davis wouldn't stand for that sort of bullcrap
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by Simms-McConkey on Oct 9, 2011 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions
It should also be said
that assignment coverage can be exploited, too. Put em in motion to get their corners where you want them. Make them defend more than just the sideline, keep cutting inside. Got a good run support corner like Barber? And he’s assigned to a man? Line up his man to the opposite side of where you run. Or line him up in the slot and run a counter. It’s easier to set the edge against a guy with the size of a corner.
You can set things up more by guiding them around by the nose, if you know where a guy is always going to be you can use that against them.
Head of catering.
Every system is exploitable
I just think LCB/RCB is particularly badly suited when you have two CBs that play very different styles, and the opposing OC can pick and choose who to beat said style with.
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by Thomas Beekers on Oct 8, 2011 8:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Haven't the Seahawks always done this?
And most teams? I remember Trufant starting on the left (which is the strong side, where the top receiver usually lines up), then switched to the right to protect his injured shoulder. Now he’s back at the left, which is typically where the top receiver lines up, since most quarterbacks are right handed.
by B.B.Finnegan on Oct 6, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
We expect the camera man to be covering Nicks
Our corners will spend a lot of time watching him go by.
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didn't you hear?
josh wilson was reincarnated somewhere in a chemical vat somewhere and somehow grew to fullsize overnight…
Heresy grows from idleness.
by Corax --Nevermore-- on Oct 5, 2011 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Probably your tight ends vs us
Because you guys signing Zach Miller prompted the Raiders to sign Kevin Boss away from us :(
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Unfortunately Zach Miller stays in to block way too often due to our porous o-line.
Unless you mean Zach Miller vs your DE…
I did not know that
In that case, that
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Also the running game in general...
We’ve had a hard time stopping the run, and running the ball…I’m interested in how the team will respond this Sunday.
Win ugly.
by tito (eight and oh) on Oct 5, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions
You will not break 75 yards rushing against us.
That’s my prognostication.
by Stay Off the Flowers on Oct 5, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
They might get 75 yards
But its gonna take them 30+ runs to do it. Im not a huge fan of Manning, he is kinda culter schizophrenia, but i wouldnt be suprised if the giants abandon the run game and go with Manning throwing. That could be a catch 22 for them cause when brock and clemons get teed up, they usually hit hard. Tat is when Earl and Kam start picking off passes(if kam is back this week)
if we rush 30+ times
it’s either an OT game or an early blowout. our OC gets allergic to the run at times. expect 25ish rushes b/t the two backs.
Manning is having an amazing season right now, he’s no.3 overall in passer rating, and has only thrown 2 picks so far. the plays that were avoided sacks/rushed throws – INTs last year are now take a sack/live another down downs. i think most Giant fans are confident if we have to depend on his arm to get us there Sunday.
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It's a wash, we probably won't break 75 yards rushing either
by B.B.Finnegan on Oct 6, 2011 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions
I'll take a tie game.
That would be the most irritating for the Giants fans I’m sure.
by Stay Off the Flowers on Oct 6, 2011 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions
That means 3-0 in the first quarter.
Run game is no factor.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
Not sure
But it’s been my experience that when a NFC foe either beat’s you significantly or beats you the last game of your old stadium or knocks you out of the playoffs, you can bet you wiil see that team again next season or maybe seems like we have been playing you guys a lot in the past few years though.
by Late for Dinner on Oct 5, 2011 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions
The answer
More succinctly, last year we played because we both had the same ranking in our division in 2009 (3rd).
Every year, the intraconference games rotate each year. For example, the NFC East will face: NFC West (2011), NFC South (2012), NFC North (2013), NFC West, NFC South, NFC North, and so on and so on, unless they change the scheduling technique.
All but 2 games each year have been known since 2002.
If we play again next year, it’s hopefully because both teams finished in first.
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-John Madden
by Willgfass on Oct 5, 2011 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
We've got the same game vs. Chicago this year too.
The league has you playing 6 of your 12 non-division conference-mates every year. It’s got to be a MASSIVE pain to have to get every single team playing someone different every year (and it’s just barely possible). My main beef is that they should find a way to flip who is home and away, but I imagine that could be pretty tough as well.
"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)
Well for the intraconference games
the home away switch ever 3 years. This year you guys play on the east coast, in 3 years the Giants will go out West.
As for the “same place as last year” games, I have no idea how they determine home/away except that one is home and the other is away
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-John Madden
This is true unless you are on the West Coast.
Then the rules that were set up to benefit east coast teams may go into effect, such as the “Steelers never come to Seattle” rule because that would involve too much travelling for them, or some such. (Forget about the fact that we get to enjoy far more travel and those wonderful 10am our time game times.)
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Oct 5, 2011 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Er no
NFC vs AFC matches alternate every 4 years.
**looked it up, wow that’s weird. Yeah you guys have the same schedule home/away as in 2007. The steelers did play in seattle in 2003. Take out the superbowl game (which is technically a neutral field), and the split is 7 games in seattle 9 in Pittsburgh. 8-8 regular season though
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
No, it really is an East Coast protective rule.
Seriously, it’s something about how they only travel west so many times a year. The rule only works east to west though, not the other way around.
It is yet another way that we feel the East/West Coast bias thing is real…
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Oct 5, 2011 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions
Link please?
Or point me where to find this rule?
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-John Madden
Here's the bullshit
While SF stayed in Cincinnati for a week because they had two straight east coast road games. God forbid it happens to the Patriots.
by Stay Off the Flowers on Oct 6, 2011 6:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Well that's being unfair
There’s more teams in the North East than on the whole West coast. More than half of the NFL is in the eastern time zone as well. You have to expect things like that happen every once in a while.
And while that affects things now short term, in the future it’ll fit and there won’t be problems
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
That means it's even more biased.
If there are more teams on the East Coast, they have to deal even less with this travel situation than West Coast teams do. The only change that happens with them is they play later games (for day, 4pm/7pm), while West Coast teams have to travel East more often and play early games (10am/1pm).
It’s really the 10am thing that bugs us as fans, not even the travel. Yet the NFL panicked when the Pats had to go to California and Washington in a row.
I don’t know, maybe we’re being irrational and it really isn’t a big deal – but it just screams protectionism for the media darlings as whiskey chainsaw said.
by Stay Off the Flowers on Oct 6, 2011 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions
yes
it’s the 10am business that’s ridiculous.
west coast teams already have to go east more than vice versa, but the least the league schedulers could try once in a while would be to make it a 4 pm (1 pm PST) game. it seems like it’s always a 10 am start for the west coast team, while two east coast teams play the later game.
Oh i definitely agree
that is was an over reaction, I just don’t think that there’s as much of a controversy as it’s being made out.
And I agree in a perfect world the west coast teams wouldn’t start at 10:00 your time, but it’s not a perfect world. Theres ~ 17 teams in EST, and 4 in PST. There’s going to be a discrepancy unfortunately.
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
So how hard would it have been to grant us a concession and allow later game times?
But then, that would be a concession towards something other than east coast focus, so THAT wasn’t going to happen.
West Coast, you get to travel more, AND you get shit game times. But hey, at least it’s more fair for our east coast brethren. (And that’s the important thing, dammit!)
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Oct 6, 2011 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions
Here’s the rules and they’ll tell you why.
As much as I wish I have no power to change them haha
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Yeah, well, let's bow to the almighty dollar in the east coast in the name of eliminating equality and fairness.
Because you know, that’s worked so well for baseball and you see them growing new fans all over the place.
"How much blow can Charlie Sheen do? Enough to kill two and a half men." -Jon Lovitz
by Tyler Jorgensen on Oct 6, 2011 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions
As a fan of the Mets, I resent this comment
Yeah, well, let’s bow to the almighty dollar in the east coast in the name of eliminating equality and fairness.
Because you know, that’s worked so well for baseball
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by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 7, 2011 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions
The Seahawks are owned by
one of the guys how owns microsoft. I really doubt if it came down to money you guys are missing it.
And the San Fran Giants are one of the more popular teams in the league anyways
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Because it'll go back to alternating
between home and away every 3 years vs the NFC and every 4 years vs the AFC
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Also, anyone who has flown knows that flying East is more difficult.
Jet lag is significantly worse. At least when you fly West you are following the sun.
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
Mario Manningham
Is the injury slowing him down, or has he been phased out of the passing game? Looks like he’s not getting too many targetss this year.
He got a concussion before half time in week 2
and was out week 3.
Cruz and Manningham played about equal number of snaps last week, which I find really surprising. There seems to be big miscommunication problems between Eli and Mario because Manningham is usually open but the ball is thrown somewhere else. Once those get figured out the Passing game is only going to be better.
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
I read that Mario is getting supplanted by Cruz because he's not running the right routes.
Temporary aberration or a more permanent shifting?
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Oct 5, 2011 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions
You could probably ask that question about brains when the concussions happen
And the answer would be indicative…
by Stay Off the Flowers on Oct 5, 2011 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Ehhh sort of yes sort of no
I’ve read some reports about how he was benched briefly last week, but not sure how true.
Eli and Manningham are definitely not on the same page. It’s been joke around that they don’t like each other.
I personally think Manningham > Cruz, but if they’re not on the same page changes should be made.
Also, the concussion issue hurts.
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Not sure if you noticed
but it had to bring back some emotions to see/hear that 2 weeks ago Jay Feeley missed 2 potential GWF in the same stadium that he missed 3 GWF in that infamous Monday Night Choke Job.
I was actually
not a sports fan when that happened. The other guys will definitely be less than thrilled at the reminders, but I didn’t get into sports until 2007 (lucky me, haha). [And I mean the beginning of the season, from 0-2 to the rest]
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Well I mean
I started paying attention to sports in 2007.
I’ve always been a Giants/Devils fan, but I couldn’t name more than 2 or 3 players at a time. 2007 is when I started watching the games and making a conscious effort to learn who was who.
I’ll spare you the story of how I chose the Mets over the Yankees unless you want to hear it.
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
If the story
Doesn’t have anything in it about a wild night with Doc Gooden and a couple 8 balls, don’t need to hear it.
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You can replace Doc with Nails, Keith Hernandez or HoJo and we'll take it.
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Oct 5, 2011 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Because you decided you'd rather not root for the evil empire?
For the IRS? For the casino to win and the players to go home broke?
Because you have a soul?
"How much blow can Charlie Sheen do? Enough to kill two and a half men." -Jon Lovitz
by Tyler Jorgensen on Oct 5, 2011 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions
That was a Sunday
After thanksgiving. I remember it like it was yesterday.
by rossco17 on Oct 5, 2011 5:39 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
How is Bradshaw looking this year? He reminds me of Michael Turner, often takes a couple guys to bring him down...
Eternally looking forward to someone making a Seahawks song based off of Lil' Jon's "Shots" song named "Hawks!"
The running game
has been pretty meh so far. Some of it has been the o-line has been below average in run blocking.
And yes, that’s Bradshaw’s MO. He’s a small wrecking ball that’s extremely hard to take down and can break tackles.
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
We've got one of those,
but he never gets to carry the ball.
How thin are you guys on defense?
You had a boatload of injuries through training camp and the pre-season, how are the new corners holding up?
by Stay Off the Flowers on Oct 5, 2011 5:54 PM PDT reply actions
And the linebackers too. It sounded like at least one starter was severely injured early on (or so I thought)
Eternally looking forward to someone making a Seahawks song based off of Lil' Jon's "Shots" song named "Hawks!"
Answer to both
There’s definitely been a ton of injuries.
We have 8 guys on IR according to Wiki. Two were definite established starters, Jonathan Goff and Terrell Thomas. Goff is an extremely good run defender and all reports said he was making great strides in pass defense.
TT’s injury hurts the most. He’s not our best corner, but he has the most utility. This year they were going to put him in a Charles Woodson esque role, where in nickel defense, he’d be the slot guy where he could use his great tackling and blitzing ability to use.
Including TT, we have 3 CBs on IR. the other two aren’t world beaters, but definitely hurts the depth real bad, especially since Prince (our first round pick) broke his foot in the first practice and hasn’t played a game yet.
Other notables are Marvin Austin, our 2nd round pick, and Domenik Hixon who was our 3rd WR. Cruz seems to have ably replaced him though.
Osi is finally heatlhy, at a very fortuitous time. Tuck (our most important defensive player by far) injured his Neck in the third preseason game and hasn’t been completely healthy since. He’s missed two games and lots of us are worried that his injury is worst than what a “burner” would be.
As for who we have…
The linebackers have been a pleasant surprise. Michael Boley has been underwhelming at best the past 2 years, but has been playing lights out this year. Kiwanuka has been moved to the SLB and has been solid there. We have an interesting philosophy for defense. In our base 4-3, our MLB will be rookie Greg Jones, along with Boley and Kiwi on his sides. In Nickel, we use our other rookie Jacquain Williams with Boley, our two fastest linebackers. Williams has been a very pleasant surprise, and had 10 tackles vs Philly two weeks ago.
Kiwi is also moved all over the place, and sees time at DE and DT at times.
As for the corners… they’ve held up. Ross was turrible (misspelling intentional) the first two weeks. Since then, he’s really played well. There’s been some debate on how much the scheme has changed, in the first two weeks we seemed to play a lot of off zone, but the corners wayyyyyyyyyyy off the wide receivers (which would explain grossman throwing for 300 yards against us), while more recently they’ve been in the same time zone.
We also play a lot of 3 safety sets, probably more than any other team. We did this last year too, but with a twist. Right now, Rolle becomes the Nickel Corner in 3 receiver sets. He’s held his own, but obviously isn’t his strongest spot. Still better than the other corners right now I guess.
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
That's a hell of a writeup! Thanks!
So to follow up: if you were the Seahawks, where would you try attacking this defense? 3 safety sets don’t bode well for downfield passes since you probably have someone over the top on each play. Perhaps developing screens to hit someone in the flats? Misdirection plays sound as if they could be really effective on you guys.
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No prob
Hmm well the biggest issue we’ve had is the over the middle behind the linebackers’ zone and in front of the safeties. When ever we play off zone, there almost always are holes. Same deal on the sidelines in between the corners zone and the safeties’ deep zones.
Last year we were really good vs screens, as our DEs were really good at sniffing them out. Dunno about this year, especially if Tuck is still out. The one I remember had a good gain.
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Dude!! ! 4 yrs of really following ball and u know this much shit?
took me a decade to figure out what defensive holding was.. What are u some kind of incredibly hansom, ultimate genius and master of all villainy? another words “MEGAMIND”
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
Hahaha
I credit Madden, wikipedia, and Bigblueview. Especially BBV.
And yes I like to consider by handsome and very smart heh heh
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Madden, Wiki, and BBV knowledge combined
is like reading and knowing the Bible, Qu’ran, and Torah and combining all the knowledge together. you my friend, are an all knowing football diety.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
amen on BBV
I was always an intense fan who couldn’t name the entire O-Line.
Now I know the 53-man, the draft classes, the schemes … thank you BBV
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by Simms-McConkey on Oct 9, 2011 8:11 AM PDT up reply actions
Has your team ever considered giving Phil Simms' son a job?
If not, does Joe Morris and/or OJ Anderson have children?
"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)
Chris Simms is pretty bad.
So no.
There’s Mark Ingram Jr., but he’s sorta employed right now.
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
I guess I never made that connection before. Not sure how.
That’s pretty cool though.
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Oct 5, 2011 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions
the kid's going to be much better
than his dad ever was though
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
We may wind up giving Davin Meggit a job though
(Dave Meggit’s son)
he looks good
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
the only job he could get with the Giants
would be picking up weed for Bradshaw and Manningham.
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by Simms-McConkey on Oct 9, 2011 8:14 AM PDT up reply actions
Welcome!
The 2-0 Tarvaris Jackson stat is interesting, good find.
The Giants are pretty far off my radar for some reason. What’s it like playing in the NFC East this year? Weird season so far.
Pretty sure he'd be 2-1
if he played all of the game last year, but he got knocked out and Joe Webb took over.
It has been a very weird season. The Redskins defense has become much better and looks very good. It’s taken a huge 180 from the porousness it was last year.
There have been some article saying it’s now the “NFC LEast”, but that’s extreme hyperbole imo. I’m still wary of the Eagles until they lose 7 games. I’ve always thought Dallas was extremely overrated since the beginning, but you can’t count them out.
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
The worst teams in the NFC East
are pretty average/mediocre, which is equal to the best in the West. It’s all relative to media scrutiny, so a loss can bring you guys down in public opinion. SF is being talked about as world-beaters, when they’re probably 8-8 at best.
by Stay Off the Flowers on Oct 5, 2011 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Very good point
Not a fan of San Fran for historical reasons, so I hope you’re right
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Have the Seahawks ever beaten the Giants on the road?
Somehow I just remember a lot of heartache.
It's also the Seahawks only win
out of 7 in New Jersey. The other other 4 wins vs us were all in Seattle
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Do the Giants have a biblical equivalent of ...
… our Clipboard Jesus?
"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana" - G. Marx
They've got a Samurai
on defense. That’s worth something.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
Yeah, what happened to that really really fat quarterback?
by Stay Off the Flowers on Oct 5, 2011 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions
He's like Biff
to Eli’s Marty McFly.
by Stay Off the Flowers on Oct 5, 2011 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions
The Hefty Lefty is awesome
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Back fat ...
… is a back-ups best friend, in this case.
"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana" - G. Marx
by Upton Jupiter on Oct 5, 2011 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Jared Lorenzen
Is/was totally awesome.
Wasn’t he like 6’5" 300lb?
I remember being impressed by his short upfield burst speed too in the preseason action I saw. Basically he was The Fridge with a canon for an arm.
I think he has a few successful QB Sneaks to his name
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Apparently he was "officially"
6’4" 315. So I wasn’t far off.
You remember the preseason win vs the Ravens? I think that’s the game I saw where I was like… “yeah, I’ll take that dude off your hands in Madden”
Pillsbury Throwboy!
My favorite sports nick ever.
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
QBese was my favorite
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 7, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Rhett Bomar
was our superman for a while. He could play every position, but he was claimed by the Vikings and I think he’s out of football.
There’s also TMFS → Tyler Mother F***ing Sash
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
I imagine Rhett Bomar wears a Col. Sanders suit and sounds like Foghorn Leghorn.
That name is, I say. is just way too southern.
shhhhh
they say he can hear his name spoken or written from up to 300 miles away.
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by Simms-McConkey on Oct 9, 2011 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Godly advantage:
Seahawks.
"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana" - G. Marx
by Upton Jupiter on Oct 5, 2011 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Can't disagree there
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
I guess the whole...
… “Philistine Giant” thing didn’t work out so well the first time.
"Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana" - G. Marx
by Upton Jupiter on Oct 5, 2011 7:50 PM PDT up reply actions
Will Kenny Phillips ever be the player he was pre-knee injury?
He appeared to me to be on his way to being an elite SS at a very young age. Am I wrong that he’s lost a step and isn’t the same player?
"How much blow can Charlie Sheen do? Enough to kill two and a half men." -Jon Lovitz
Last year that could be a fair assessment
This year he’s been playing much better. In fact, he’s been playing awesome, and playing strong in run and pass support. We’ll see if he maintains it though
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
He's certainly playing that way as of right now. We can only hope that
it continues. Right now, he is ProFootballFocus’ top rated safety in the NFL. While I don’t know if I can say that, I can tell you that he’s regained that lost step.
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"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 5, 2011 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Do the Giants still use their "power-blocking" scheme? And if so, could you explain how its different from everyone else's?
Also, are you happy with your O-Line system, or would you rather have smaller lineman to have more effective pass protection?
by B0w1-of-R1ce on Oct 5, 2011 7:39 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Yes, we still use a power blocking scheme.
We pull our tackles and guards a LOT more than most teams. We aren’t fans of stretch plays, but we will occasionally break out a counter play once in awhile. We will almost exclusively run to the right, with Chris Snee and Kareem McKenzie. I don’t think David Baas will be playing, but he would be running around like a crazy mofo as well.
I’m definitely happy with my OL system. Peeps can say what they like about Eli, but he’s one of the best play action QBs in the league. Therefore, to be at his best, its imperative that we establish a power run game.
Our OL isn’t huge, but it isn’t small and quick. Its more somewhere in the middle….moderately large, moderately quick linemen.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 5, 2011 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Who is the strength of the OL
And who is your weakest link?
I seem to remember you guys let go of O’Hara over the off-season right? How did the fans over at BBV feel about that?
Hence to fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence lies in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.
-Sun Tzu-
Snee is our best OLer
He’s been an All-Pro the last three years. Last year we would have added McKenzie to that list, but so far he’s looked like age has caught up with him, and while it isn’t time to panic yet with him, we could be getting close to that point.
O’Hara had some really nasty injuries last year, and only played 4 or 6 games. His pro bowl selection was a sham to the highest degree. When he played, we were actually worst rushing than when he was out.
Kind of surprising that he was released, it also sort of wasn’t after reports came out how injured he really was. The fact that no other team has signed him (especially considering the dearth of good centers) just goes to show that Reese was right.
Weakness is definitely David Diehl. He was our LT for most of last year. He was alright vs power guys, but weak vs speed rushers so moving him to guard would seemingly solve that problem. In the first week, he gave up 3 sacks, and has looked shaky the next game. Like the rest of the line, he seems to be improving, but really, you can only go up from his horrible performance vs Washington.
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
we haven't broken the counter out enough, IMO
i always thought it was one of big boy’s better plays.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
We need to get back to it.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 7, 2011 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions
I like BJ on stretch play...
always felt he was VERY good oh them. It lets him get a full head of steam before first contact which is always good for the BIGBOY!
Banned from GangGreenNation for being a troll for this ONE post after somebody classified the Giants as a LUCKY organization.
He's a bitter Jets fan what do you expect?
That happens when the team you root for hasn’t won in damn near half a century!!
Sour grapes, jealousy will get you nowhere in life lol.
I'll defer this to someone more knowledgeable about O-line play
But from what I’ve seen, our pass blocking has been good (minus one david diehl) and our run blocking pretty poor.
Of course Baas looks to be out so that could change things.
I’m a fan of whatever works haha
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
I see BBI posted ^^^^
go with him
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
I actually like the Gaints
They did beat Billacheat in the SB. They have to deal with a over hyped team in there division every year just like the hawks do. ( cowboys/49ers) I wish them success unless they play the Hawks.
by Redzone59 on Oct 5, 2011 7:44 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
same sort of sentiment for you guys. For some reason I can't explain, I don't like the 49ers.
I also don’t like the Cardinals because they used to be in the NFC East. I do like the Rams though.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 5, 2011 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Don't like the 49ers and don't know why?
There’s a whole wiki section on it!
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
ah yes. Thank you for reminding me.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 5, 2011 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions
i love the Cards because they were in the NFC East!
you could virtually count that as 2 wins every year BBI! what are you talking about? get them back in the East – not this team – the Cards from the 80’s i mean. i want them back in the East. we need a new doormat now that the Skins are pretending to be good.
Yes, I am a Giants fan. Now that we got that out of the way....
IMPEACH DOLAN!!!!
I will not - lose! -Jay Z-
Marines say Oorah; BBVer's say SUAMBP! say it with me - Suuaahmbp!!!!
It's early but if the Gaints finish the year..
With no play offs and or a l
by Redzone59 on Oct 5, 2011 7:46 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
Phone went dead...
If the Gaints dont make the play offs or have a l
by Redzone59 on Oct 5, 2011 8:36 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 8 recs
Fuck it I'm done!! Night all
by Redzone59 on Oct 5, 2011 8:37 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
If I have ever seen a post that deserved to be greenlit, it's this one.
"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)
quick! FIELD GULLS, RISE TO THE OCCASION AND REC EVERY POST BY A FIELDGULLS MEMBER!!!
We’ve got the high ground, men, CHAAAAAAAAAAARGE!!!!!!!
Heresy grows from idleness.
by Corax --Nevermore-- on Oct 5, 2011 9:21 PM PDT up reply actions 13 recs
sigh for edit button
accidentally hit 3 instead of 2, ended up being 350.
…
on a side note, however…will we ever get an edit button?
Heresy grows from idleness.
by Corax --Nevermore-- on Oct 5, 2011 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I would settle for having real-time recs and flags so I can see them without having to refresh the page.
But an edit button would be great as well.
Doubtful.
I’m sure SB Nation hears about it a lot, and it can’t be that difficult to implement. They haven’t changed anything in the 3 years I’ve been following this site, can’t see it happening.
"You SUCK, Keary Colbert! You should be selling insurance. INSURANCE, Keary!
-Random drunk Hawks fan in Miami after watching Keary Colbert drop another wide-open pass.
It's Great To Be a Florida Gator!
by Wayward Llama on Oct 6, 2011 3:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Edit button provides an easy avenue for abuse
Someone can post something, then someone else rebuttles, then they could change their original post to make the second person look silly. Can get pretty retarded.
by B.B.Finnegan on Oct 6, 2011 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions
I think, more to the point, there are bandwidth/page speed issues there.
SBNation seems to encourage threads like these used in almost a chatroom-like environment, where people post quick quips instead of longer, thought-out posts. On game days especially a standard forum layout with 30 responses per page would leave the average user in the dust almost immediately. On the flip side, if you have 1,000+ posts on a single page, and every single one of them could be edited by whomever initially posted them instead of just the moderators, that can take forever to load on some computers and would probably put a decent-sized dent into the server usage as well.
"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)
by Johnny Slick on Oct 6, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions
that's true
Heresy grows from idleness.
by Corax --Nevermore-- on Oct 6, 2011 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Do you want my answer?
or the schizophrenic New York sports radio answer?
The later depends on how good the Giants are (3-1? Great coach! 0-1 start? CAN HIS ARSE!)
As for me, I think he’s a very good coach, one of the better ones in Giants history. I’ve always thought the idea of him losing the locker room are way overblown, and we know we can win the superbowl with him.
He definitely has some negatives in that some times he is too conservative with the game plan and isn’t always the greatest at in game adjustments. Like the Giants franchise itself, TC is loyal to sometimes a fault (e.g. our Special Teams coach stinks and has stunk for a while but he’s still here).
Overall, I definitely like the guy. I’ll be sad to see him go, but when he eventually does (on his own terms I hope), i’d like to see the Giants go find a young up and coming guy who has offensive creativity (a Mike McCarthy esque guy).
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
What are the 3 biggest areas of concern, and 3 biggest strengths
On both offense and defense
I know this can be a pretty complicated question, you don’t have to get very detailed if you don’t want to.
Hence to fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence lies in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.
-Sun Tzu-
Short n sweet...
Worries
1. Tucks,Baas Health
2. Lack of a running game thus far
3. Run D which coincides with Tucks health
Strengths
1. Eli’s stella start
2. The day these 3 guys get on the field together .. So future strength: Justin Tuck, JPP and Osi (But still a strength)
3. Red zone D has been insanely good ( Although Beanie Wells got us a couple times last week)
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
i'll bite
strengths:
QB. We’ve had a franchise QB for 7 years now. He’s clutch, great in the 2-minute, and stays healthy. (In other words, he’s the opposite of Tony Romo and Mike Vick). Because it’s new york he gets a lot of flak, but he’s the man.
DL / pass rush: The Giants have 3 top-flite DEs who would start on any team in the league in Osi, Tuck, and JPP (2nd year now). They even have a solid 4th in Dave Tollefson. They have Big Chris Canty from FA, and despite letting fred robbins and barry cofield walk, have drafted Linval Joseph and Marvin Austin (IR) who should be ample replacements. And of course there’s Rocky Bernard. The Giants are built on 4-man pressure, and thus Jerry Reese has built a vicious 4-man front.
Front office / TEH LBZ: The Giants have drafted really well in the last 4 or 5 years, resisting the urge to draft for need or sign big-name free agents to fill needs. Where they have signed free agents, it was for core principles (Bernard, Canty) and Rolle was a bit of an exception. It’s saved them money and alllowed them to develop talent at LB such as Jon Goff (IR) Greg Jones (rd 6) Jacquain Williams (rd 6), as well as possible down-the-road contributors in Spencer Paysinger and Mark Herzlich. That’s 4 cheap, in-house LBs. Consider too that we’re using former DE Kiwanuka at SLB because of the surplus we have from drafted DEs.
WEAKNESSES:
1. The O-line is in flux. This is the first year in their position full-time for Beatty the new LT, Diehl in at guard, and Baas (injured) and Boothe (a backup G) at center. We have a good OL coach and haven’t been killed for it, but they’re not running effectively. Meanwhile the long-consistent right side of the line is beginning to show some cracks with Snee and McKenzie.
2. TEH INJUREEZ. We’ve lost, in part or in full: (top 2 DEs, DT Marvin Austin, MLB Jon Goff, SLB Clint Sintim, CB Terrel Thomas, CB Prince Amukamara (thats our rd 1 and rd 2 picks btw) 2 backup CBs. That’s why this defense isn’t top 5 in the league. Guys have stepped up well, but there is a talent deficit from what we’d have on paper compared to what’s on the field. On Offense, we’re fairly well depleted at WR after Steve Smith’s injury / defection and Hixon’s IR … and Barden’s PUP.
3. I think we’re still exploitable in big-play passing, but our safety strength has improved that. The Giants have alternately looked good and bad against the pass and run through 4 games. It would be nice to see them able to shut down both for 4 quarters instead of being torched By Rex Grossman or Beanie Wells.
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by Simms-McConkey on Oct 9, 2011 8:33 AM PDT up reply actions
In regards to the running game concerns
What would you single out as the biggest culprit?
1) Poor blocking by the O-Line (something Seahawk fans know all about)?
2) The RB himself (an unlikely scenario unless they’re playing injured)?
3) Or the O-Coordinator making it too obvious when he’s going to run (something we saw last week)?
or is it door #4, something else?
I ask mostly because Seattle has had a very slow start to our run game and I like comparing notes with fans of other teams who think their ground game is struggling. With the Seahawks, it has mostly been poor O-Line performance, but I chalk that up to youth and inexperience. Just in case no one has told you, the O-Line that will be facing you has a grand total of 49 starts as Seahawks. For all 5 linemen combined.
Hence to fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence lies in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.
-Sun Tzu-
Gah, meant to reply to Troy O above ^^^^
Hence to fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence lies in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.
-Sun Tzu-
Mostly 1
I do remember a play or two where it looked like Jacobs was tiptoeing, but mostly there just haven’t been holes sometimes.
Also 3 to an extent. Our OC (Kevin Gilbride) will have awesome game plans some weeks than just terrible game plans others. It’s frustrating sometimes, but the story of the Giants
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Our OC AKA Kevin Killdrive
Will either have his A game going or his F game with no in between.
by Late for Dinner on Oct 6, 2011 5:19 AM PDT up reply actions
Killdrive, that's pretty good.
We’ve been thinking of opening a “Three-N-Out” burger joint by the stadium.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
"I'd like a Full Drive Combo please"
“Okay, sir. So a LOS-run burger – no bun of course, followed by an empty order of large fries, then a half-assed vanilla shake? That’ll be done in under 50 seconds of game clock. Thank you for your visit!”
by Stay Off the Flowers on Oct 6, 2011 8:07 AM PDT up reply actions
If you were the hawks
what would be your gameplan against you guys?
Do or do not, there is no try-Yoda
on defense.
Run blitz all your linebackers and disguise your safeties. Always have 7 men in the box, Have both your safeties roving around. We really don’t have a great intermediate game. It’s usually checkdowns/screens or fly/post routes. Eli sometimes gets confused with disguised coverages (dunno why…just brain farts), so do alot of that.
On offense, run to the left side. You won’t get anywhere on the right side, but you’ll probably average a 5+ YPC on the left. Misdirection plays work against us because we tend to overpursue. If you find one on one matchups, ANY one on one matchups, just go ahead and exploit it. Our CBs are playing well, but they will wear down by the end of the game.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 6, 2011 5:41 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm smelling a first pick of the season for ET then.
Still think you guys will put it out of reach by the 2nd quarter.
by Stay Off the Flowers on Oct 6, 2011 6:54 AM PDT up reply actions
We tend to start slow so jumping on us early would also help
by Late for Dinner on Oct 6, 2011 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions
We also tend to start slow.
Our M.O. is to show up in the 3rd quarter. So this should be a really boring first half.
And jumping early is NOT what we want to do. I’m looking at you Sidney Rice.
:)
0-0 at the halftime mark
27-21 at the end of the 3rd quarter
and every announcer in the country slack-jawed, unable to articulate what just happened, especially since none of them watched it live after they all tuned out the NYG-SEA game because of the slowest 1st half in recent memory.
Hence to fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence lies in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.
-Sun Tzu-
To Offense, I'd add
a lot of 3 step drops, and passes over the middle.
Even without Tuck, the passrush is nasty. Dave Tollifson got 2 sacks last game, and JPP is the real deal. QB’s do not want to hold onto the ball against the Giants’ D-line.
pass short over the middle
get Kiwanuka in pass D, exploit the slot. Commit to stopping our run and make us uni-faceted
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by Simms-McConkey on Oct 9, 2011 8:35 AM PDT up reply actions
Has the New York Football Giants
Faced much no-huddle this year?
With the depth being a concern on the defensive side, this may become an issue.
Live work and breathe like an optimist.
we just fake injuries if you guys try it.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 6, 2011 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions 7 recs
I feel like they should really incorporate rules to prevent that.
Like injured players have to sit out until the next first down…
Eternally looking forward to someone making a Seahawks song based off of Lil' Jon's "Shots" song named "Hawks!"
Or if it turns out the guy isn't really injured, you get to injure him.
I like to call that the “YOU WANT SOMETHING TO CRY ABOUT I’LL GIVE YOU SOMETHING TO CRY ABOUT” rule.
"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)
by Johnny Slick on Oct 6, 2011 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why does everything in FG turn into a Dungeons and Dragons reference if you take it far enough?
Not that I’m complaining!
"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)
Well hopefully Mr. Grant and Mr. Williams do a little better acting job
At least figure out who is going to go down first.
by Late for Dinner on Oct 7, 2011 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions
Haha
But seriously, every team does it. We just got caught doing it badly
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
Oh i know, just bringing in some levity haha
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"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 7, 2011 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions
It's fine, we can't be one to talk, I believe the Seahawks and Joe Nash invented this move while playing against the Bills
Which resulted in the initial rules being made, that an injured player had to sit out a play.
Bengals.
Sam Wyche and the Bengals. If memory serves, the Hawks trotted it out in a playoff game that they eventually lost 21-14. The Bungles went on to lose the most boring Super Bowl in the history of Super Bowls. I had to turn it off with 2 minutes to go, it was so boring.
"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)
Yup it was the Bengals playoff game.
Chuck Knox’s gift to the NFL.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
I'm curious...
I know there were a crap load of pissed-off Rams fans ranting about players faking injuries.
Did ya’ll on BBV think Williams/Grant were faking or were they actually hurt?
Hence to fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence lies in breaking the enemy's resistance without fighting.
-Sun Tzu-
we knew they were faking.
Team Greg Jones
Team Jerry Reese
"how the f*** do the giants with 6 starters out comeback while the eagles give up 21 2nd half points to the worst offense in the nfl…" -XxActionJacksonxX
"Heart" - PhiladelphiaEagles
by BigBlueIntervention on Oct 9, 2011 7:52 AM PDT up reply actions
I wish we did.....
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
coming from a guy who hasnt missed a giants game in about a decade
im gonna predict that leon washington has a HUGE day against us. Historically we cannot cover little speedy runningbacks who sneak out of the backfield consistently on pass plays. brian westbrook wrote the book on how to dominate a giants over aggressive defense, especially with guys like osi who are flying up field all the time. I look for a few big gains from Leon on the draw or delay as well. Also, I predict a high return average from him.
by The Blood of Eli on Oct 7, 2011 6:48 AM PDT reply actions
The returns, maybe. But sadly, Leon is only getting maybe 2 rushes per game
Which is an absolute travesty. I hope he gets more touches on Sunday, but if I were the Giants I wouldn’t be too concerned.
from your lips to PCs ears
I may not be the most noble of men but in a town of lepers, im the one with the most fingers.
Giant LB'z SUCK!!? Mark Herzlich, Greg Jones,Williams,Paysinger...Maybe not..
Yeah, but Westbrook was part of the Eagles gameplan
Leon is part of package 13, subgroup 4 in Bevell’s playbook. He calls that section “kitchen sink”.
by Harvey Manfrengenson on Oct 7, 2011 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Westbrook
was exploiting Antonio Pierce.
Yes, I think we’re vulnerable with LBzez in pass coverage, but Greg Jones is speedier than AP, and Boley and Jaq can fly around a bit. I don’t think the matchup you refer to is generalizable.
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by Simms-McConkey on Oct 9, 2011 8:37 AM PDT up reply actions
Congrats on the win fellas
You’re run defense is legit.
Good luck going forward
Self-praise is for losers. Be a winner. Stand for something. Always have class, and be humble.
-John Madden
by Willgfass on Oct 10, 2011 6:44 AM PDT reply actions 4 recs
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