The Official FieldGulls Fantasy Football Thread. Week 5 Edition.
Vicks has given us the task of a "SB Nation Sleeper of the Week." Get it, "sleeper?" I have to be honest, I giggled when I read the headline. This is one of those times when I appreciate advertisers who actually try. And to be honest, in those rare instances when I am sick, I am a fan of Vicks VapoRub, so I for one don't have a problem with the tie in. That being said, it's time to get our Fantasy On.
You know the routine, right?
Here at Field Gulls we’ve had discussions on just about every aspect of football, including having discussions about when we can or should have discussions about Fantasy. Well, this IS the place. You can, if you must, add fantasy talk in additional game threads, but be warned, someone may be watching, and they may be mocking. Here, you have free rein to talk your team’s reign or your rain of injuries. Something to note, and this should be a true football fan’s golden ticket when it comes to heaven and hell and the voiding of the warranty on your soul.
The first rule of Fantasy Football, you do NOT root for players against the Seahawks.
The second rule of Fantasy Football, you do NOT root for players against the Seahawks.
On this site, for sake of your own health, NEVER cheer against the Seahawks due to your fantasy roster. My personal rule is to avoid as much as possible acquiring division rivals, or to avoid playing them against the Seahawks if reasonably possible. Statements like, "Well, at least I have Larry Fitzgerald on my fantasy team" (if) he was scorching the Hawks will unleash the hounds of hell upon you. Please don’t be that one bastard playing the "Don’t Come" line at the craps table. Not only will you bring bad mojo to everybody, but you’ll likely get verbally harassed, if not banned. You’re a Seahawk fan, you aren’t "that guy" you are one of OUR guys—act like it!
We’re 4 weeks through the NFL season, and have now reached the first bye. While in the next several weeks, NFL teams might be resting and recovering during a much needed bye, fantasy owners now get to play the waiver wire shuffle. My biggest piece of advice is this—plan ahead.
Bye Week Management
If you haven’t already looked at your roster and planned for your starters to have their byes, do so immediately. Know who is sitting when and start looking for viable replacements. Use your website’s "Watch List" and add a couple guys at each position you don’t have depth. It also helps you to see guys on a weekly basis instead of simply looking at the waiver wire on week 9 and guessing who looks good or not. Add a player to your watch list and you’ll be watching his games on Sundays with more individual focus while debating the merits of picking him up or not.
If you have a player who is going to have a bye on week 6, don’t wait until after week 5 is completed to grab the bye replacement and run the risk of losing him to someone with higher waiver priority. Be proactive, and try to always stay one week ahead. It’s smart practice—if the guy you grabbed goes down to injury, you can always grab an alternative later. But if you wait, someone may already get your top choice.
Oh, and try and make you actually look at the player’s matchup the week you are going to play him. If he’s a team’s WR1 but a fantasy WR3 with hot and cold numbers and he’s playing the Jets and going to be stuck on Revis Island that week, is he really the right guy to go get? Another NFL team’s WR3 who is playing a likely high scoring affair may be the better way to go.
Sleeper Picks and Thoughts on when to Cut Your Losses…
As bye week moves need to be made, roster size shrinks. That means it’s time to reevaluate your pre-season sleepers. Are they worth sitting on or is it time to consider letting them go? For example, in one league I dropped Delone Carter last week for a bye week starter next week. In another, I’m grinning because I didn’t accept a trade and give up on Sydney Rice when someone came calling with something that would have improved me only a little at another position. Injuries to Andre Johnson and Vincent Jackson mean Syndey’s even that more important to me now.
Be decisive when you decide to make a move, but don’t be hurry to make one just to make one. Unless you are a hamster and enjoy that wheel of course…
A couple things to look at when deciding to keep or cut bait. Is he really going to help you, and if so, when and how? For example, Delone Carter was my 5th RB in a 2 RB/3WR league, and I have LeSean McCoy, LeGarrette Blount, Beanie Wells and Ben Tate. My WR’s are not nearly as deep (for a 10 team, 3WR start league), with Larry Fitzgerald, Reggie Wayne, Marques Colston, and prior waiver pick ups Eric Decker and David Nelson. I was hoping Carter would emerge as legitimate depth and then maybe I could package Tate or Beanie and Marques Colston or Reggie Wayne for a less risky WR start.
Well, like most trades you think up in your head, it didn’t happen. Arian Foster got healthy, Colston went down and nobody wants to touch
Another thing to keep in mind. If you let him go, will someone else pick him up? And if so, who will they drop to grab him, and could THAT player help you more instead?
One last tip while evaluating the waiver wire-- at this point in the season you should no longer be using the "projected scoring rank" as your sole evaluation. That ship has sailed, man. Generally you will need to a couple clicks to line up by present scoring, but it’s the way to find the guys who are getting it done instead of the guys who, like Dalton in Road House, that we all thought were "supposed to be bigger."
When Fantasy and Reality Blur; a Closer Look at the Buffalo Bills.
Now I was an English Lit Major so I might be wrong here, but I think that statistically we’re a quarter of the way through the season. We are starting to establish some patterns that may or may not fall in line with pre-season expectations. Obviously injuries like those to Peyton Manning and Jamaal Charles have caused a ripple effect in both the NFL and fantasy scoring. And while small sample size is essentially always an issue with football, we’re picking up on trends. We’ve discovered which teams are better and worse than we thought.
A great example is the 3-0 start of the Buffalo Bills. The Bills were way below the radar prior to the season both in NFL and Fantasy scoring. They stand above mighty Tom Brady and the Patriots in the AFC East standings at 3-1, and several players have emerged as viable fantasy starters. Of course, last weeks’ loss takes some of the luster off, but it’s time to recognize that Chan Gailey has turned Ryan Fitzpatrick into a viable QB1 rotational option, or even a full time starter in deeper leagues. Although he lacks consistency, Steve Johnson is a legitimate fantasy WR1 at this point. However, be wary if you expect to trust in him the next month of the season. Fred Jackson continues to be a solid RB option, clocking in right now with around a 90 yd/1 TD per game average.
The Bills defense is also an interesting fantasy option, both in Defense/Special Teams and IDP leagues. They are a big play defense, with 3 safeties (Jairus Byrd, George Wilson, and Bryan Scott) currently legitimate starting IDP’s. Byrd is the youngest and probably the most talented, but hasn’t had a "big play" yet this year. All three are clocking tackles (70! between them this year already) and are threats for a pick or sack.
In 2009 and 2010 between the three of them they have 278 tackles, 15 INT’s and 8 sacks, with Byrd getting the most INT’s – 9 two years ago but only 1 last year, and Scott the most sacks, 5. Those are great fantasy numbers… but they also show you the difference between fantasy and reality. That’s too many tackles and big plays by safeties for a team that is 3-1 and wishes to be a legitimate contender.
So, in other words, fantasy-wise, the Bills are off to a great start—a better start than the 3-1 record of the team for real. However, I’m going to tell you this is the last week we’ll see them sitting above the Patriots in the standings.
I like the Bills. I even think they were the best team of the 90’s. Hell, about the only thing catchphrase I enjoy from Chris Berman is ‘Nobody circles the wagons like the Buffalo Bills." Unfortunately, I doubt most people listening actually understand the reference, but that’s neither here nor there. I don’t understand why Chris Berman is still on the air, so I guess we’re even in that regard.
Being a native Washingtonian and lifelong fan of our teams up here in South Canada, I empathize with Bills fans, they remind me of
So that means I am pleased they got to enjoy a little of the NFL season this year… even reminds me of us this year. Well, our Mariners with that quick start and early contention.
In both cases, fun while it lasted, but the wheels are going to come off.
In hindsight while looking at the early season schedule, the Bills SHOULD have started 3-1. It was just an unexpected 3-1. Week 1 found them @ the Chiefs, who have been nuked by injuries and are just now waking from the long offseason. Week 2 they beat the Raiders at home. Not a huge shock. Week 4 they lost to the Bengals, a game you probably would have given them going in, but not a huge shock @ Cincy. Quite honestly, Week 3’s upset of the Patriots (in
A wider view of the NFL schedule shows the Bills may be in for some rough times ahead. Here’s the schedule the next 5 games:
vs. Philly
@ NYG
(bye)
vs. Redskins
vs. Jets
@ Cowboys
@ Dolpins
@ Jets
The next 5 weeks they face a pissed off and embarrassed Eagles team attempting to crawl back into contention, the Giants in NY, the much improved Redskins and then the Jets, before heading down to
Let’s bounce back to fantasy again—The "big three" of Steve Johnson, Fred Jackson and Ryan Fitzpatrick will never have higher value than right now. If you can sell high on Steve Johnson, Fred Jackson or Ryan Fitzpatrick, do so now before it’s too late. But if you can’t unload them now, best to weather the storm. Expect all three to have a drop in consistency but still remain viable fantasy starters. David Nelson and Scott Chandler are another story, however. Their numbers are going to suffer as well, but unlike the other three, that will push them off rosters and back onto the waiver wire.
As for the defense, well, it will be playing Tony Romo, Mark Sanchez (twice!), Sexy Rexy Grossman, Matt Moore and Eli Manning. You tell me if you think a big-play ball hawking defense has a chance to get some pick 6’s there.
Final Verdict: Reality? Not a believer in the 3-1 start. In fantasy? It isn’t a nightmare, but things are going to start getting a bit lean if you depend on the Bills offensive playmakers. Expect some drop in numbers and some tough times the next month and a half.
That’s it for week 5. Feel free to discuss the article and your fantasy teams in the comments. Have a great weekend watching the games. I’m going to pretty much miss them, as I’ll be in
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BOOOO fantasy football
BOOOO Googly
The Department of Redundancy Department is hiring, maybe I should apply myself.
Good stuff, thanks Whiskey
I picked up David Nelson hoping he’d be the next Miles Austin… this might not happen.
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Don't agree on the Bills
Think they’ll beat Philly, and the loss to the Bengals? Well, who envisioned the Bengals being a top ranked defense?
I can see them winning four of the next seven games you listed.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
Philly's defense hasn't been impressive.
That could easily be a high scoring affair, always fun for fantasy players.
Now with more pessimism!
Sign best man cover corner on market.
Put him in zone.
Fail.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
Normal league, 10yds/point
Benjarvus Green Ellis (NYJ) or James Starks (Atl) & Jacoby Jones (Oak) or Malcom Floyd (Den)?
I want Andre Johnson back, mommy.
by Stay Off the Flowers on Oct 8, 2011 1:44 PM PDT reply actions
BJGE
Jets giving up a healthy 4.2 per carry and 130 yards per game. On top of that they just put Bryan Thomas on the IR. Atlanta is under 100 y/g and 3.6 per carry so I’d sit Starks.
Jones has a nice matchup against the Raiders (275 y/g) and while Floyd looks good against Denver he’ll be seeing Champ Bailey in his grill if V-Jack can’t go. But I really don’t trust either of these receivers and the Law Firm has already enjoyed success against the Jets last year.
Can anyone tell me why Andre Johnson was considered the #1 receiver (and a 1st round pick in a lot of leagues)? I know the guy has a nice y/g average but he’s never scored double figures in touchdowns. Has anyone ever won their league with AJ as their first round pick?
I did a couple years ago.
Honestly, I’ve tried to get him on my team every year for the past 4 years. I have a man-crush on him. It’s about how consistent he is, he’ll get the production week in and week out. There are very few that can keep that up for a long period of time. Randy Moss did the on/off thing, Greg Jennings is coming on, Bowe turned it on last year, but AJ and Calvin are in their own world. It’s tough to find that caliber of receiver and it’s worth the gamble that a first-rounder usually is with him. I got him..9th i think.
by Stay Off the Flowers on Oct 8, 2011 5:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Standard league, 10yds/point.
Trying to figure out who to slide in at my #2 WR spot. Sidney Rice, Robert Meachem, or Victor Cruz. I’m leaning towards Cruz or Meachem since I think TJ is going to get crushed this week but Rice will also be TJ’s main target, whereas the other two may not get thrown to all game.
Now with more pessimism!
Should I trade DeSean Jackson?
My RBs are Leon Washington and Jonathan Stewart and I’m not going to stand for much more of Vick’s throwing to Maclin.
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
How big is your league if you got stuck with Leon Washington and Jonathan Stewart as your RB's?
If I were you I’d trade Jackson, I bet you could get a decent RB for him
I originally drafted Stewart and Thomas Jones
I goofed and didn’t draft an RB until the 5th or 6th.
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
What does the rest of your roster look like?
Hard to say if you should make a trade w/o knowing the rest of your roster. And what’s your record?
I don't think it matters.
Desean Jackson – Vick (who is getting pounded) = a Kafka like existentialist quandry.
by Stay Off the Flowers on Oct 8, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
3-1
QB – Rivers (no backup, so will look for that, too)
RB – Stewart, Leon
WR – DeSean, Hester, Julio Jones, Jordy Nelson
TE – Gonzalez, Keller
D/ST – Indianapolis (while Washington is on a bye), Washington
K – Longwell
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
That team would get you 1-3 in my league.
Well maybe 2-2 depending on who you faced so far. But Rivers is your only ace.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
Agree
Love Rivers, but you’re getting his upside with VJax. Newton is a great new pickup, and should be throwing all year.
by Stay Off the Flowers on Oct 8, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks
Already completed. Hows this for a roster:
Newton, Steve Johnson, Vincent Jackson, Jordy Nelson, Jermichael Finely, Chris Johnson, MJD, Fred Jackson, Stevan Ridley
Beastly
Who’s your backup qb now? You might still be able to pick up Hass.
by Stay Off the Flowers on Oct 8, 2011 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
None at the moment
Qb’s a very picked through in this league. Most likely will just do a bye week pickup
Cupboard is Bare
In most of these leagues it’s just trash and unknowns left at the moment.
Live work and breathe like an optimist.
No
12 team league, live draft. Just bought low on Chris Johnson, stole Fred Jackson in the 14th round, and picked Cam during the week 1 game
by Mighty_Mouse on Oct 8, 2011 10:39 PM PDT up reply actions
I always have one homer slot per game to the detriment of my team at times...
I’m literally thinking about starting Doug Baldwin over Lynch in my WR/RB slot.
With BMW out I feel like Baldwin could have a big game. But with my luck, I see that backfiring and Lynch having his best game of the year. I think I may roll with it though.
How insane am I?
If it was just Baldwin vs. Lynch
I’d probably go with Baldwin. But it’s a choice between 4th &8 with a few seconds and a 61 yard field goal.
good luck.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
Why dont you just explore other options?
You’re no less of a fan trying to ‘field’ the best possible fantasy team.
by Stay Off the Flowers on Oct 8, 2011 7:31 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't have Baldwin, but have similar WRs w/ potential.
I’m going with Lynch this week. I think the line is getting better. My call is that he won’t be spectacular, but has a shot at 50 & a TD, plus receiving yards.
It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome.
Jordy Nelson or Isaac Redman as a flex?
Jordy’s kinda bang or bust in an offense full of weapons and Redman’s running behind the Steelers line.
Also I drafted Mike Williams (TB) in a few leagues and while he hasn’t been invisible, he hasn’t been anything more than a 3rd WR so far. Think it’s going to get better or is it time to start looking elsewhere?
Tough one
I’d go with jordy for the upside, both have an equal chance of disappearing
by Stay Off the Flowers on Oct 9, 2011 6:05 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
I've had an interesting year already trade-wise
I know nobody is interested in anyone else’s fantasy team but I’ve had some remarkable trades in one league, just thought I’d share.
In my big money, 12 team league my starting lineup after our auction draft was:
Matt Schaub
LeShon McCoy
LeGarrette Blount (huge man crush on this guy, overpaid at the auction)
Jeremy Maclin
Miles Austin
Mike Tolbert (flex)
Zack Miller
A decent draft for a 12 teamer but not a world beater.
Immediately after the draft my buddy traded me Jason Witten for my backup QB Freeman
After week 2 my arch nemesis offered me Green-Ellis and Newton for Blount. After much thought I went for it because I realized already that Schaub wasn’t going to cut it.
The day after I secured Newton I was offered Michael Vick for Newton. I took it.
The week after that I was offered Chris Johnson and Larry Fitzgerald for McCoy. I took it. Hopefully it was a sell high on McCoy and a buy low on CJ.
My team now is:
Vick (Schaub on the bench)
Austin
Fitzgerald
Maclin (Julio Jones and David Nelson as bench depth)
CJ
Law Firm (Tolbert and McGahee as bench depth)
Witten
A lot can change in just a few weeks. I wish I still had Blount but I can’t complain how this team has rounded out.
This Vicks thing is much better than the Bear Grylls deoderant ad.
Really, if I want to use what Bear Grylls uses for deoderant, I’ll just pee all over myself before I go to work.
"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)
Late for work?
Drink your own piss
by Stay Off the Flowers on Oct 9, 2011 6:04 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
His favorite beer is bud lite.
You know why.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
by hazbro24 on Oct 9, 2011 7:01 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

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