One Side of the Line: The Intimate Details of the 'Hawks OL
DK edit: I thought this was a fun read. Enjoy.
I was reading the scouting reports of each player on the Seahawks' roster yesterday on their SBNation site, and I started looking at their offensive line. Of all the units on the team, this group of large men has perhaps taken the most heat so far this year. And with good reason! They've been fairly bad at times. There have been some bright spots (like Max Unger and Russell Okung) some not-always-negative spots (like John Moffitt) and some pretty-much-always-negative spots (Robert Gallery, Paul McQuistan, and James Carpenter).
For really good in-depth analysis, check out Word of Muth at FootballOutsiders.com, where Ben Muth (former OT for Stanford, and was named 2008 first-team All Pac-10) has picked three offensive lines to analyze on a weekly rotating basis, and has provided good insight into the Seahawks, Titans, and Saints hogs so far this year. Also, Brock Huard's weekly "Chalk Talk" segment over at MyNorthwest.com is pretty useful for gleaning little bits and pieces about how these big boys do work.
All that being said, I wanted to get into some personal details about the guys who have been such a focus, both in the offseason and during the games this year. They will have no secrets when I'm done with them. Their lives will be open books. They fear me. Ok, on to the meat on the meaty guys.
To start off, there are currently nine offensive linemen on the active roster. Max Unger is the only pure center, with Lemuel Jeanpierre listed as a G/C. Robert Gallery and John Moffitt are the two pure guards. Russell Okung, James Carpenter, Jarriel King (pronounced "juh-RELL"), Paul McQuistan, and Breno Giacomini are all listed as tackles. There are no offensive linemen on the PUP or IR at this point (*crosses fingers* *knocks on wood*). Paul Fanaika (listed as a guard) and Brent Osborne (listed as an OL) are on the practice squad.
So what's the big deal with these guys, other than them being big?
AGE
Well, a big deal was made at the beginning of the season that the Seahawks had the youngest starting OL in sixteen years, and it's definitely showed. I think the most vitriol has been "spewn" forth in the general direction of James Carpenter and Robert Gallery. I think the former has a good excuse, but the latter? Well, he's just old.
But even with Gallery, the average age on the Seahawks' offensive line (among those on the active roster) is 25.44. Throw in the guys on the practice squad, and that number drops to 25.04. This includes Gallery at 31, McQ at 28, and Breno at 26. Moffit, at 25, is actually older than Russell, Carpy, King, and good ol' Lemuel (all 24), and only six months younger than Maxwell McCandless Unger, esteemed starting center. On the PS, Fanaika is also 25, and Osborne, a rookie out of Harvard (a smart one, eh??) is 22.
In all of this, the biggest surprise to me was James Carpenter. He's only 22. Holy carp, 22. He was born in March of '89. He's four freaking months younger than me. The day I realized I was too young to be a realistic sports prospect was a sad day for me. Now I'm older than the Seahawks' first round draft pick. Gosh, my back is starting to tighten up just thinking about it. I have a lot more patience for Carpy's learning curve now. If anything, he always has the "What have you done lately?" to pull on me.
WEIGHT
Now, I've been bordering on fat jokes this whole article, so don't laugh during this next section. I'm gonna talk about how fat these guys are. They are some big humans.
The average weight of the nine on the active roster is 315. Our buddy LJP is the lightest of the group at "only" 301. I wonder if he gets made fun of? Imagine jokes among offensive linemen. We laugh at fat people (wait, you don't? Oops.), but they probably get a kick out of the skinny guy on the block and kick him and make him their errand boy. "You don't want to take my uniform to the laundry basket? Really? Really. Ok yeah, that's what I thought. Skinny lil' punk."
If that little narrative holds true, then the guy who never takes care of his own jersey is Methusaleh Gallery, weighing in at a sprightly 325. Carpenter and King are both pretty close, at 321. Interestingly, on the practice squad dwell Fanaika (327) and Osborne (288). So help our Harvard boy if he ever makes active roster. Smart AND skinny?? He's gonna be screwed.
HEIGHT
Finally, I was struck at the height of these boys. There isn't a single offensive lineman shorter than 6'3" in the employ of the Seahawks. Only Lemuel and and Osborne are even that short (geez, these poor guys).
Their average height is 6'5", which is precisely where Maxwell, Russell, Jarriel, and James (and Paul F.) measure up. McQuistan is uglier 'n a ugly thing (seriously, look at this), and is also 6'6". Giacomini and Gallery are both 6'7".
I'm not always someone who prescribes to the theory that QBs need to be tall to see over their lineman, but in this case, I'd say a short QB could have real issues playing behind this line. They are BIG. If you want a guy to think of when you're trying to picture their average size, think of Steve Hutchinson. Yeah, that big.
"C'mere punk, I eat Panther for elevenses."
In all seriousness, this is a really young line. I don't think that can be overstated. These guys are babes, and they're getting some of the most intense OJT anyone could subscribe to. There will be learning curves, and there will be ugly mistakes. But there will also be flashes of brilliance as they get used to one another and begin to grow their big boy teeth.
Things may be sketchy and rough now, but have patience. When the Seahawks acquire their quarterback of the future, he will have a helluva wall of intelligent, experienced flesh protecting him and road-grading for his backfield buddy.
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Great Write Up
And good points on how young this team is, especially on the line.
And the consistency of large bodies there warms the heart.
Live work and breathe like an optimist.
Whenever I get mad at start yelling at the box with all them moving pictures
I force myself to remember that they ARE indeed quite young for an offensive line and things could get really good here in a few years. Great write up. FATTY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Watching the Seahawks is like peeing on yourself, everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling it brings
The caption on that photo made me spit out my beer.
by Danny Kelly on Nov 2, 2011 9:05 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
nice post Mattlock.
informative, open minded, critical and optimitic. Nice. I have been reading the “word of muth” columns as well, and find them quite awesome – should be required reading for fieldgullers.
Smashmouth is the new sexy!
They may be young
But they have been playing football for a long time. They should be able to block a pass rusher when it is one on one. Defensive stints and blitzes will be harder for them. Sometimes they just look overwhelmed.
by AlaskaHawk on Nov 4, 2011 9:11 AM PDT via mobile reply actions
There's a significant difference between some weight room warrior college schmuck
and the Phil Taylors, Jabaal Sheards, Carlos Dunlaps, Osi Umenyioras, Jonathan Babineauxs, Ray Edwards’s, John Abrahams, Justin Smiths, Patrick Willis’s, Brett Keisels, James Harrisons, Calais Campbells, and Darnell Docketts of the NFL.
On another note, holy shit the Seahawks have played some excellent pass rushing teams.
by Matt Erickson on Nov 4, 2011 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions
Pass protection is College is a totally different animal than in the NFL.
College offenses are mostly rushing, bootlegs, and 1 or 2 read drop-backs. So not only is way less pressure put on the Oline, but the defense spends less time on pure pocket pass rush tactics than edge contain. Guys that get drafted as pass rushers are usually being converted somewhat from a more traditional LB or DE to a guy who chases the QB on every single play. There are no Damarcus Wares in college football, even when Ware was in college he wasn’t what he is now.
by Fumanchuchu on Nov 4, 2011 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
With that logic though, would you assume all young players should be good when they get into the NFL because they've been playing football for a long time?
Sometimes it takes a few years. At every position. In this case, the youth in question aren’t used to blocking pass rushers that are as big, strong, fast, and technical as the elite NFL pass rushers. There’s a learning curve for rookies because of this.
by Danny Kelly on Nov 4, 2011 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Comforting indeed.
And those are some truly excellent opponents, too. 22 years old, and lining up across from Osi-fookin-Umenyiora…astonishing that anyone got yards, let alone 2 wins, and 4 other winnable games at SF, Cleveland, Atlanta and Cincy.
We will be winning some of those winnable games this year, and Gahwd help the rest of the league as this team’s bigboy teeth come in.
by bleedshawkblue on Nov 4, 2011 10:18 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
I don't know about comforting
but it’s something to think about when Ware is abusing our line this weekend. You weren’t kidding about McQuistan being ugly! It’s one thing to be a ginger but a ginger ogre is just painful to look at. If he weren’t in the NFL he would never get laid and I still would question whether he does.
An optimistic comparison would be the Niners. Their line looked terrible last year with two rookie starters and now they are protecting Alex Smith and opening big lanes for Gore. I thought that Anthony Davis was going to eventually end up on the bench but he’s still out there and they are still winning so I guess I was wrong.
Thoughts about McQuistan and Gallery
I think these guys take one shower a week, and it’s on sunday after the game so they can go to church smelling nice. The rest of the week they work on developing serious lockerroom funk as part of the gamesmanship of the trench war. Also, I bet they both stop brushing their teeth three days before game day and chaw on a mix of anchovies, lutefisk, rotten eggs, and tobacco between plays on the sidelines. Or at least I would…
Smashmouth is the new sexy!
by pqlqi on Nov 4, 2011 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

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