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Seahawks Play Seahawks Football, Beat St. Louis 24-7

The Seahawks started off with a bang on their first play from scrimmage with an end-around throw by Sidney Rice that went for 55-yards to Mike Williams. Tarvaris Jackson threw it two times after that and both times the St. Louis Rams caught those passes and that tells the story of the Seahawks offense in the first quarter. Seattle trailed 7-0 after the first frame.

It can be said, though, that the longer the Seahawks played in this one, the better they got. Seattle protected a 10-7 lead at half thanks to an excellent throw and catch from Tarvaris Jackson to Sidney Rice for a touchdown at the 8:40 mark in the 2nd quarter and a field goal from Steven Hauschka as time ran out in the first half. 

The second half was mostly controlled by the Hawks defense but the game wasn't officially put away until Red Bryant picked off Sam Bradford on a tipped pass at 5:27 in the fourth, and Justin Forsett ran the ball in from 22-yards away to put Seattle up 24-7 with 4:27 to play. Here are some quick thoughts, and as usual we'll follow up here with some in-depth analysis for you soon.

- As the title indicates, this was a typical Seattle Seahawks game. The defense played very solidly, special teams was hit and miss - giving up a blocked punt (tipped punt) and a Leon Washington muff that was recovered by Byron Maxwell - maybe the play of the game- , and the penalties piled up. A lot. The quarterback play was mediocre at best. Somehow, Seattle still won. This team is anything but a well-oiled machine but you see glimpses of awesomeness that gives you hope that once mistakes and penalties get cleaned up a bit, we could be looking at a very good football team.

 - Tarvaris Jackson struggled early, getting picked off twice in the first quarter, and finished the game 14 of 24 for 148 yards, one touchdown and those two interceptions. He did bounce back and settle down later in the game, which is encouraging because you'd really, really hate to see Jackson melt down or regress as the game went along. He made some big throws, including a dart to Sidney Rice for a touchdown, and overall did enough to secure the Seahawks a win.

 - Marshawn Lynch was again the workhorse for the offense. He carried the football 27 times for 88 yards and a touchdown. His touchdown run was designed to go off tackle to the right but he bounced it outside and outran the safety in pursuit to the corner. Justin Forsett also got some carries - 4 to be exact - and took advantage by breaking free for 22 yards and a touchdown with 4:27 in the fourth quarter, as mentioned above.  

 - Though not as consistent of a pass rush as I'd like, the Seahawks managed to exploit St. Louis' woes on the offensive line, netting five sacks and seven quarterback hits, forcing Bradford to fumble late in the game as well. Though I'd have to go back and look more closely, upon first viewing Brandon Mebane and Chris Clemons both had really good games.

 - Red Bryant had an interception as he dropped back into zone coverage and administered a nice stiff arm that knocked down the WR, Austin Pettis, that was trying to tackle him on the return. Red also had a very nice game, with two tackles, a half-sack, and a quarterback hit in addition to his interception. 

 - Overall I thought the defense played well. They gave up seven points in the first quarter after a St. Louis interception put the Rams at the Hawks 27 yard line. To shut them out after that was an accomplishment. Brandon Browner had a good game, with several pass breakups, and Richard Sherman continued to show flashes of greatness. I thought that Clinton McDonald had a few nice plays from the inside and Kam Chancellor did his thing again, knocking skulls left and right. 

 - Jon Ryan is seriously good at punting. He averaged 49 yards per punt and at one point blasted a 71-yarder. 

 - This game was fairly frustrating until late when the Seahawks put it away, but I'll take a road win against a divisional rival that had managed to win two in a row previous to today. The Hawks rushed for 126 yards - their third straight 100+ yard rushing game in a row, and passed for 163. Tarvaris Jackson averaged 6.16 yards per attempt, which isn't awful, and on the ground, the Seahawks picked up 3.2 yards per carry. A grind it out win, and the Hawks went 3 for 4 in the red zone, which is a positive. 35:00 to 25:00 time of possession advantage for the Seahawks. 

 - 13 penalties for 100 yards lost. I have no words, but you know. 

That's what I got right now, much more to follow. What do you think of this win?

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NFL network was just showing the game recap.

Cut to commercial in the middle of the first quarter after Rice’s TD.

70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.

by hazbro24 on Nov 20, 2011 4:39 PM PST reply actions  

Cam better start budgeting for the fines

Cause he earned another one.

they took turns pissing into the bitch's ocular cavities.
This way to the cafeteria!

by stufr on Nov 20, 2011 4:44 PM PST reply actions  

>=)

If I was a Seahawks player, I’d take up a collection for the guy. With him and Browner I keep seeing one or two penalties a game – some of which are bullshit – but I see very frustrated QBs and WRs on the opposition. I think Carrol and co are building a secondary (with Thomas and Sherman too) that’s going to piss people off for years.

There’s no way to gauge for sure, but I’d be curious how many yards being lost to penalty are made up by frightened WRs dropping footballs and QBs chucking the rock at their guys’ knees.

Most of my cliches aren't original.

- Chuck Knox

by Azimeir on Nov 20, 2011 5:50 PM PST up reply actions  

The D is growing around the young players and becoming a good defense

Their growth and the potential/growth of the O line is what keeps me watching.

they took turns pissing into the bitch's ocular cavities.
This way to the cafeteria!

by stufr on Nov 20, 2011 4:44 PM PST reply actions  

They need to use him as a situational fullback like Greenbay uses Raji

With those ball skills I wanna see Red get a lot of receptions

by G-Mo on Nov 20, 2011 5:21 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

(wilda)Beastmode!

To your dome

Can't wait for the 2011 season to kick in.

I'm a one man rec'n crew

by jubelthebear on Nov 21, 2011 4:49 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Cue Mike Mayock...

“Get OFF me, he says to Austin Pettis!”

by hookemdevils22 on Nov 21, 2011 7:29 AM PST up reply actions   2 recs

It really wasn't a stiffarm

it was more like ‘gettafuck off me’, he just brushed that Stl player aside

Heresy grows from idleness.

by Corax --Nevermore-- on Nov 20, 2011 5:25 PM PST up reply actions  

a little baby

Stiffarm

Can't wait for the 2011 season to kick in.

I'm a one man rec'n crew

by jubelthebear on Nov 21, 2011 4:51 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Hey, to #18's credit...

He stays with it and makes the tackle. =)

Most of my cliches aren't original.

- Chuck Knox

by Azimeir on Nov 20, 2011 5:33 PM PST up reply actions   3 recs

Anaerobic respiration

did more to stop Red Bryant than Austin Pettis did.

Can't wait for the 2011 season to kick in.

I'm a one man rec'n crew

by jubelthebear on Nov 23, 2011 7:35 AM PST up reply actions  

It's not like they have to pay the Seahawks royalties.

There’s not even a Seahawk logo on the Boz’s jersey.

"You SUCK, Keary Colbert! You should be selling insurance. INSURANCE, Keary!
-Random drunk Hawks fan in Miami after watching Keary Colbert drop another wide-open pass.

It's Great To Be a Florida Gator!

by Wayward Llama on Nov 21, 2011 7:03 AM PST up reply actions  

That NW gear is awesome.

I am convinced that Seattle sports teams exist to make me hate Seattle sports teams.

by the other side on Nov 20, 2011 11:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Good to see the Hawks still able to move the ball without Carpenter and Moffitt.

That being said, the penalties and QB play are really starting to bother me.

by wetzelcoal on Nov 20, 2011 4:57 PM PST reply actions  

it's what football is about

it’s hard to go lower than a receiver that’s also lowering his helmet. And it puts the fear of god in the other team’s receivers

by G-Mo on Nov 20, 2011 5:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Honestly, I can appreciate the kam hits

he is bringing a toughness and swagger to this defense that we haven’t seen in I can’t remember how long. Opposing teams will take note that we don’t bend, let alone break. To me this is the reason I continue to tune in every week, regardless of the matchup!

by Aaron Crowley on Nov 20, 2011 5:32 PM PST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

Oh yes

I love hearing those hits. It’s not just him, too, it’s all the corners/safeties and DBs we have. They’re just destroying opposing players every chance they get, and I love it.

Heresy grows from idleness.

by Corax --Nevermore-- on Nov 20, 2011 5:33 PM PST up reply actions  

How fucking awesome is it that we can count our young secondary as a strength at this point?

Sherman is a shutdown corner in the making IMO. Browner, while a penalty machine, is a physical presence that opposing OC’s have to account for. Our safeties will be starting pro bowls for several years. Add an elite pass rusher in the draft to complement Clemons and this D is top tier. Maybe I’m a serious optimist, but I think we have the most promising D in the National Football League*

*copyright ESPN

by Aaron Crowley on Nov 20, 2011 5:42 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Excellent points, all of them

Sherman has really stepped up to the challenge. This is most certainly a victory for PCJS, having scouted him out and gotten him through the draft. And you’re right, with an elite pass rusher who doesn’t just give opposing offenses fits but terrorizes them, we have an top-10 and maybe even top-5 elite defense. I say maybe because granted, this was a Stl team that has been hurt by a ton of penalties (literally) on both sides of the ball, but if you look at this D’s performance throughout the reason, it’s really been pretty good through ten games.

Heresy grows from idleness.

by Corax --Nevermore-- on Nov 20, 2011 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

It has been pretty good

And that is impossible to ignore. I think that this will be Carrol’s legacy, more than anything. We can all debate his scheme and it’s strengths, or lack there of. But I don’t think anyone can debate the quality of talent he and Schneider have brought in. We should in all honesty be thankful for the scouting prowess that we now have. It’s head and shoulders above what Ruskell (Numbskull) brought to us.

by Aaron Crowley on Nov 20, 2011 6:05 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

You had me agreeing with you right up until the Ruskell comment.

and then realized it was basically a “cheer for us now” post.

Ruskell brought this team a shit-ton of talent, a lot of which got ditched for very little. There’s no question that Carroll has brought in some successes, but let’s wait until the team is actually GOOD before crowning him as better than the guy who took us to the superbowl in his first season.

by djafrot on Nov 20, 2011 8:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know, people were saying Forsett peaked early.

He looked good today. Hill has been solid. Hawthorne is starting. Mebane ate Tony Wrogge for breakfast today. Bryant makes this run D go. Pistol is starting for Washington. LoJack has been a nice rotational player for Detroit and Sims is still starting and looking good. Spencer is apparently playing well after getting the opportunity to start at guard, despite a broken hand.

I’m don’t think we should have kept Ruskell or anything, but to say his players peaked early and disappeared isn’t really accurate.

by Nate Dogg on Nov 20, 2011 9:10 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

wait, how many fucking times has Spencer broken his hand already?

and considering he spent 5 years here that’s a really small amount of players to still be around. He did have some skill in finding talent but he was terrible at putting it together

by G-Mo on Nov 20, 2011 9:18 PM PST up reply actions  

That was just a list off the top of my head.

And yeah, Spencer has really bad luck with his hand apparently.

by Nate Dogg on Nov 20, 2011 9:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Pistol's on a short-term, low-stakes contract

Tatupu’s on a hiatus from the league and Hill almost disappeared as well. Carlson hasn’t matched the yardage total from his rookie year. Mebane hasn’t matched the sack total from his rookie year.

Chris Spencer didn’t get much interest as a FA and is now playing backup RG (because the Bears’ OL has had a bunch of injuries). Tapp is also a backup.

Sims is a great OG and LoJack is looking a lot better in Detroit.

Looking at this team in 2007-8, there were a lot of players that looked great but have since failed to produce. This isn’t a “shitload of talent” anymore, it’s a couple of competent starters and a couple of backups and it’s the best of Ruskell’s picks.

by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Nov 20, 2011 9:25 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

My point is this:

What looks like “talent” one year can look like “trash” the next. What looks like “trash” one year can look like “talent” the next.

It’s way too early to say that Sherman’s a great DB or that Pete/John is building a talented roster, but it also doesn’t make a ton of sense to say that Pete shipped a ton of players that would have been very effective on this team (or were worth adapting schemes to fit).

by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Nov 20, 2011 9:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed.

Vernon Davis is a good example of this. Useless for a couple years, then suddenly remembers how to play.

"You SUCK, Keary Colbert! You should be selling insurance. INSURANCE, Keary!
-Random drunk Hawks fan in Miami after watching Keary Colbert drop another wide-open pass.

It's Great To Be a Florida Gator!

by Wayward Llama on Nov 21, 2011 4:37 AM PST up reply actions  

And Curry always had so much potential

Locklear looked like a decent successor to Walt. Unger looked like the answer at center and then he didn’t and then he did. Things change quickly in football.

by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Nov 21, 2011 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Tatupu blew out his knees, that's not really peaking early.

And to judge a defensive tackle like Mebane only on sacks is missing a pretty huge part of the picture.

Shitload of talent is definitely overstating it, but saying that Ruskell players peaked early and disappeared isn’t much better. A lot of them peaked and didn’t develop beyond average starter/good rotational player, but it’s not like all of his guys washed out of the league.

by Nate Dogg on Nov 20, 2011 9:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes?

I meant to agree with Nate that the situation is complex and that I wasn’t being 100% accurate when speaking in absolutes (which I did for the sake of symmetry in responding to djafrot’s comment).

by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Nov 20, 2011 9:43 PM PST up reply actions  

for all the talent he brought us

he also saddled us with Brian Russell for 3 years, CBs who refused to play the ball, and the most expensive group of linebackers that did next to nothing. I think the bad out weighed the good.

by Hancock.Brett on Nov 20, 2011 9:10 PM PST up reply actions  

A lot of this is Holmgren.

And I’m pretty sure the lot of us, you included, were psyched as shit to have that linebacking crew.

by djafrot on Nov 20, 2011 9:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Not necessarily a cheer for us now moment.

I guess I should be more clear in making my point. I am happy with the talent that PC/JS have brought in so far. Especially the fact that so many of their draft picks are contributing. Not just the top picks either. This does not mean that they are guaranteed to do so for their entire career, simply that this is a promising start. I will for sure leave Ruskell out of my statements in the future

by Aaron Crowley on Nov 20, 2011 9:54 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

It doesnt look like he's head hunting though.

The receiver dropped to his knees right as chancellor’s momentum was carrying him forward. If the receiver stands on his feet, its most likely a form tackle/hit. That’s what bugs me about the helmet to helmet, theres alot more to it than “he hit helmet, he bad man”.

by Stagerman on Nov 20, 2011 5:37 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

that's been true on the last couple big KamBam hits

receiver drops downwards after Kam commits to the bodyshot, which then turns into a headshot.

Heresy grows from idleness.

by Corax --Nevermore-- on Nov 20, 2011 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

10 years ago Kam might only have 1 flag against him.

He earned his 20k fine last week. But the rest of it is just good hard football.

by Fumanchuchu on Nov 20, 2011 6:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Helmet to helmet shortens the life of the players

Lofa delivered several of those kind of hits and he is out of the league at an early age. Cam needs to learn not to tackle with the head down or he will be suffering from concussions and will be forced to retire early to.

by blazerbill on Nov 20, 2011 6:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Lofa's not in the league now because of his legs, not his brain

It’s just Kam style of play. It’s the only to stop Welker style receivers, teams will be afraid to throw to the middle with Kam around

by G-Mo on Nov 20, 2011 6:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Body of evidence

He has shown himself to be one of the hardest and cleanest hitters in the league. Benefit of the doubt from me until this becomes a trend.

by jhmg16 on Nov 20, 2011 7:06 PM PST via mobile up reply actions   1 recs

I see people have mentioned Kam's hit

Isn’t it just downright awesome to watch him play? Hits are so on form and brutal – this guy is a future pro bowler for consecutive seasons, and if I’m an offensive coordinator two years down the line, I’m quaking in my boots at ET and Chancellor manning the back end of the secondary for years to come. Wow.
Speaking of which. Does anyone have a picture of every one of Kam’s helmet-to-helmet and/or shoulder to helmet hits? As in all the ones he’s gotten fined for so far? I have a plot brewing in me old grey matter.

Heresy grows from idleness.

by Corax --Nevermore-- on Nov 20, 2011 5:27 PM PST reply actions  

I think it was encouraging to see...

…that despite being sloppy as a homeless man’s taint on offense and special teams, with 4 minutes left on the clock the ‘Hawks were cruising with a 17-point lead to a team that had won two in a row and was playing at home. I’m sure Rams’ faithful had visions of winning this game dancing in their heads as they laid them down to rest Saturday night, but after the Rams’ initial score, St. Louis never really threatened again.

I think our defense is starting to perk some cat ears at what it’s turning into, and I don’t think anyone in the NFC is digging it. But us, of course. >=)

Most of my cliches aren't original.

- Chuck Knox

by Azimeir on Nov 20, 2011 5:42 PM PST reply actions  

If I could rec Tweets

that would be +1000. Amazing.

Honestly, if I were him, I’d be frustrated too. He’s not going high on the receivers, it’s the receivers dropping down knowing they’re going to get the call. The league needs to take a hard look at the enforcement of the rule for next year.

by Kingdomer on Nov 20, 2011 6:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Partly yeah

I mean when you’re going to get clocked and you know it you’d scrunch up in response to protect yourself, and that’s also an area where the problem arises.

Heresy grows from idleness.

by Corax --Nevermore-- on Nov 20, 2011 6:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I just don't know how else he's supposed to tackle them

They have to amend the rule to say something like, if the helmet of the receiver is below their pad level, it’s not a helmet to helmet hit. I mean hell, I’M frustrated by it, and I’m just watching it on TV. Boldin last week got up celebrating because he knew he’d gotten the call by dropping his head level below Chancellor’s. The rule as it is right now is teaching incredibly dangerous behavior to WRs.

by Kingdomer on Nov 20, 2011 7:02 PM PST up reply actions  

You also can't not lead with your head

It’s attached to the front of your body. There’s a world of difference between a player that comes up to make a tackle with his arms and his head up, and one that’s putting his head down to go for the knockout blow. I’m not saying every hit Kam makes is clean, he’s definitely thrown a couple of shots that warranted the flag, but he’s gotten really jobbed a couple times too and there’s no way that shot on Boldin was a 20k dollar shot.

by Kingdomer on Nov 20, 2011 8:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Fair enough

I may have been combining that hit with another in my mind as what I remembered was Boldin ducking and then celebrating. I did speak without the benefit of replay.

This spurred me to do a cursory search of fine amounts for my own education, and for some reason I thought 20,000 was fairly high for a fine in general, but it’s actually not as uncommon as i thought.

by Kingdomer on Nov 21, 2011 7:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Kam earned his fine last week and he will have earned the fine he will receive this week.

Yes, the receiver did duck down. However, an overlooked fact of this week’s hit in particular was the fact that he launched into the receiver. That is a “no-no.”
How would you guys feel had that been a hit on Doug Baldwin?

Eternally looking forward to someone making a Seahawks song based off of Lil' Jon's "Shots" song named "Hawks!"

by Bobby Cink on Nov 20, 2011 6:58 PM PST reply actions  

If I was a fan of whatever player made that hit I'd be okay with it

obviously, if it’s a player I’ve never heard of before/don’t keep up with then I’ll be miffed a bit. But if that’s say, Ed Reed or Troy Polamalu or someone like that who’s just an outstanding player, then I say ‘you know, great hit, unfortunately the WR goes down but that’s the game they play’

Heresy grows from idleness.

by Corax --Nevermore-- on Nov 20, 2011 7:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Which time that it's happened to Baldwin do you want to talk about?

Or Rice? The fact is, the rule is unevenly enforced, and as written is a bad rule.

by Kingdomer on Nov 20, 2011 7:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Also

the times it’s happened to Zach Miller were all really cases where he hadn’t scrunched down and was upright then got launched on. So those are justified.

Heresy grows from idleness.

by Corax --Nevermore-- on Nov 20, 2011 7:06 PM PST up reply actions  

There is no doubt in my mind that it has happened several times to Baldwin.

And you are correct. The rule is unevenly enforced.

Eternally looking forward to someone making a Seahawks song based off of Lil' Jon's "Shots" song named "Hawks!"

by Bobby Cink on Nov 20, 2011 7:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Launching refers to an uppercut motion, I thought.

Kam was on a horizontal trajectory with his eyes up. It was bad luck. It also deserved the flag and I hate seeing any player absorb a hit to the helmet like that.

If I sound like a homer so be it.

by jhmg16 on Nov 20, 2011 7:17 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Launching is leaving your feet

doesn’t matter you trajectory. It was a very obvious penalty.

by zifnab32 on Nov 20, 2011 7:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait, diving tackles are illegal now?

I already conceded that it was an obvious penalty.

by jhmg16 on Nov 20, 2011 7:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the NFL accepts that it's a judgement call now...

if the Ref thinks the tackling player is trying to hurt the ballcarrier, it’s probably going to be flagged. That’s obviously not the rule as written, but the NFL would rather the refs err on the side of too many calls rather than too few (makes sense from a liability point of view). What’s really unfortunate is, as stated above, the calls are made quite inconsistently, and often the team/player that has a longer reputation of being better gets more leeway.

Smashmouth is the new sexy!

by pqlqi on Nov 21, 2011 12:05 AM PST up reply actions  

How long has this game been played?

I know that people get seriously hurt but I take exception. I miss the days when quarterbacks were not princesses and wide receivers knew the risk of going into enemy territory.

by Snow Hawk on Nov 21, 2011 1:18 AM PST up reply actions  

I acknowledge your point

But it is a contact sport. How does a strong safety do his job when the if a receiver lowers his head as he is hitting him it its a penalty? Is he supposed to wait and see what happens? The rules seem to be getting arbitrary.

by Snow Hawk on Nov 21, 2011 2:20 PM PST up reply actions  

eh

I guess it was a foregone conclusion. Sigh, how did they ever get to this point of ownage?

Heresy grows from idleness.

by Corax --Nevermore-- on Nov 20, 2011 7:59 PM PST up reply actions  

They won't clinch next week though

because we play the Redskins at home and they go to Baltimore.

Whatever. It’s about time NFCW teams got good.

by jhmg16 on Nov 20, 2011 8:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Either way

I’m looking forward to the soul-crushing loss they will endure when they play Green Bay in the playoffs.

"You SUCK, Keary Colbert! You should be selling insurance. INSURANCE, Keary!
-Random drunk Hawks fan in Miami after watching Keary Colbert drop another wide-open pass.

It's Great To Be a Florida Gator!

by Wayward Llama on Nov 21, 2011 4:41 AM PST up reply actions  

after watching the Eagles tonight

Plus the Cutler broken thumb report I am feeling pretty good about the rest of the schedule.

by southern oregon on Nov 20, 2011 8:05 PM PST reply actions  

This team will most likely win more than it loses the rest of the way.

Still pretty slim sliver that we win enough and other teams lose enough.

If the Cowboys take the East and we tie with New York, we won head to head. We could end up in the same scenario vs. the Bears, but that’ll still be a tough game.

Lions have a tough remaining schedule. Falcons beat us, and just seem a little charmed. They win when they’re not supposed to, and I figure them to be the best candidate to leave us resentful, taking our spot. But they could still win the South and the Saints take their spot.

But first things first…Washington. A team of about equal strength to us. Fierce pass rush so expect the offense to look about the same as yesterday. We should dismantle their offense, and the crowd should be buzzing, but don’t expect us to run away with it.

Head of catering.

by jacobstevens on Nov 21, 2011 8:14 AM PST up reply actions  

How much does Kam make per game?

Is he losing money getting fined 20 g’s a week?

by parkinglotj on Nov 20, 2011 8:15 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

3rd rounder money, so it's noticable

He deserves a huge second contract though

by G-Mo on Nov 20, 2011 8:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Are teams/coaches/players allowed to help out with those fines?

Not that it would be public or we’d ever even hear about it, but you can imagine a veteran telling his teammates to go out and do their thing because he will cover their fines.

by jhmg16 on Nov 20, 2011 8:22 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

that's stuff you sort of here whispers about every once in a while that the league brushes under the rug

Raven players would pool together money for whoever hurts a certain player and Packers were covering some of Favre’s expenses like giving him a “company” cellphone. Supposed to be a huge consequence for getting caught

by G-Mo on Nov 20, 2011 8:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Rewatching the game now.

It’s a low bar, but for anyone who was wondering if Giacomini and McQuistan would be better in the short term than Carpenter and Moffitt I don’t think that was the case. A couple of the issues those two had were with overloads, there were just more guys to block than there were blockers, but for the most part they were underwhelming. I think if Carpenter and Moffitt had played and performed like they did the two previous weeks, and with rookies consistency is never a guarantee, the Hawks’ line would have been much better off.

by Nate Dogg on Nov 20, 2011 8:54 PM PST reply actions  

I don't know that anyone thought they were definite upgrades.

But it’s not like they, particularly Carpenter, didn’t have some pretty rough patches.

Also, Moffitt was a third round pick.

by Nate Dogg on Nov 20, 2011 9:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Gia was big in the '80s?!?

Maybe it’s good I missed those years…P-U….

Heresy grows from idleness.

by Corax --Nevermore-- on Nov 20, 2011 9:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Giacomini and McQuistan

were both pretty bad in this game. I’m wondering why they haven’t put in Jarriel King yet.

"You SUCK, Keary Colbert! You should be selling insurance. INSURANCE, Keary!
-Random drunk Hawks fan in Miami after watching Keary Colbert drop another wide-open pass.

It's Great To Be a Florida Gator!

by Wayward Llama on Nov 21, 2011 4:43 AM PST up reply actions  

I was hoping we'd see him today

It seemed like Tarvaris was under duress a ton during the game.

by Kingdomer on Nov 21, 2011 7:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Two things stood out

1. The only way Mike Williams is going to get the ball is to have Sidney Rice throw it to him.
2. Sidney Rice is a better quarterback than Tarvaris Jackson.

Talent I’d most like to have: Mackin’. Straight mackin’. No, I’d like to have the talent of a magician, so I could hypnotize all of the ladies! - Marshawn Lynch

by AKHawk on Nov 20, 2011 9:13 PM PST reply actions  

Between a Rock and a Hard Place!


Seattle Seahawks – Rod Mar

Didn’t get to see the game, but this looks so much like a RB seeing Big Red waiting for him, hesitating and getting pancaked by Me! Bane!

by Tigloki on Nov 20, 2011 10:40 PM PST reply actions   2 recs

I think I remember that play

Jackson took off through the disintegrating hole and Mebane disengaged his blocker and wrapped up Jackson from behind – for a short gain. Great play.

by GasolineSnuggie on Nov 20, 2011 11:02 PM PST up reply actions  

How do you guys feel about giving Kam a payraise next year?

He deserves and with all these fines, he’ll need it. I’m thinking of maybe a 6 year 23 million contract that gradually increases pay per year.

by B0w1-of-R1ce on Nov 20, 2011 11:07 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

According to espn and the nfl

He is the closest thing to a probowler we have and deservedly so. If anyone deserves a raise, it’s Kam. Actually for every 10,000 dollar fine Kam gets pc/js should give him 20,000.

Watching the Seahawks is like peeing on yourself, everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling it brings

by DKrottenhawk on Nov 21, 2011 7:23 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Well espn and the nfl hasn't been paying attention to our punter.

He’s elite.

70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.

by hazbro24 on Nov 21, 2011 7:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Peter King gave him special teams player of the week.

Which was, of course, the only mention of the Seahawks.

by gongawz on Nov 21, 2011 8:56 AM PST up reply actions  

This team is belatedly taking on an identity.

One of smash-mouth, run the ball offense with smash-mouth, destroy-your-puny-dreams defense.

Can someone get Cam to understand that playing hard does NOT have to mean playing dirty?

Jackson – At least he didn’t lose the game for us but that first quarter…ouch.

Rice – Best arm on the team?

Beast-quake – continues to impress three weeks running now.

Force – 22 yard TD run? Maybe they should keep the Cal kids together after all?

Golden Tate – This kid needs more playing time.

Next years offensive skill positions – QB – ??
                                                                  HB – Beast
                                                                  FB – Robinson
                                                                  TE1 – Miller
                                                                  TE2 – Carlson
                                                                  WR1 – Rice
                                                                  WR2 – Tate
                                                                  WR3 – Baldwin
                                                                  WR4 – Butler
                                                                  WR5 – BMW

Or something like that anyway.

by Michael Harp on Nov 21, 2011 7:35 AM PST reply actions  

The Rice pass was a thing of beauty

Again I have to say that leaving aside the penalties for a moment (and I know they’re a pretty big deal), I think the coaches have done a pretty good job getting the team ready on both sides of the ball each week. It’s been a long time since I’ve felt like every game we go into we have a chance to be competitive, and the defense has really played well the last couple weeks in scheme and in the individual matchups.

2012 is going to be real exciting, no matter how this year turns out.

by Kingdomer on Nov 21, 2011 7:47 AM PST up reply actions  

This team is full of future pro-bowlers.

If McDonald can turn into that middle pass-rush we’ve needed for years I’ll be sooo happy.

by Richard fg7 on Nov 21, 2011 10:21 AM PST reply actions  

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