The Seahawks Rookie Report
As a little intro: I'm going to make this rookie report a weekly feature here at Field Gulls - future reports will deal more specifically with the most recent game performances, but since this is the inaugural report, I gave a more thorough breakdown of each Seahawks rookie up to this point in the season. I've placed them in order of ranking (as far as their overall performances this year) and this ranking will continue as a "weekly ranking" from here on out so I'll rank them by their game performance for each week. Let's get this started!
1. Doug Baldwin - WR - Stanford - UDFA
Baldwin's initial burst off the line may be the best of any Seattle receiver. He gets behind linebackers quickly and gets his head around to locate the ball early when coming out of breaks. Most importantly though, the guy can run routes. The key to effective route running is being able to make precise cuts, and do so without bogging down or tipping your hand by slowing down into the cut. When you hear scouts talk about how well a receiver can "sink his hips" they're referring to his ability to make a sharp cut without rounding off the route or over-running the target cut point on the field, and flexible hips allow that to happen.
Watch Golden Tate and you'll see a stiff-hipped receiver who struggles to create separation on his routes despite possessing better straight-line speed than someone like Baldwin. Ever notice that when Tate makes a grab on an out route or a slant, that despite having the strong hands to secure the catch, the defender is usually right on his back? This is because he lacks that space-creating ability to sink the hips and cut sharply. All this to say that Baldwin possesses that flexibility, is displaying consistency in running precise routes each week and is really crafty in creating space between himself and defenders despite not having elite top-end speed. He's also improving on his recognition of zone space.
He knows how to locate a window and sit down in the hole, particularly on 3rd down as he did on a couple of occasions against St. Louis. As for the hands, he can snatch the ball off his frame, and even when he doesn't secure with his hands, he avoids chest-trapping the ball by absorbing the catch with the inside of his forearms (as Sidney Rice did on the TD catch Sunday). He's gutsy and shows no fear over the middle, which makes him an ideal slot receiver. Where he could struggle is if he's asked to line up on the outside and routinely go against man coverage.
There's really not a lot to be critical of so far with Baldwin. He's a long-term slot guy with ability to make things happen after the catch - something that you didn't necessarily have with Bobby Engram. I think Baldwin compares more accurately to someone like Steve Breaston (the ARI version) or Green Bay rookie Randall Cobb (a 2nd round pick, by the way).
2. Richard Sherman - CB - Stanford - 5th Round (154th overall)
Gets his hands up quickly and is good at making his initial contact count - re-directing and bumping guys off route at the line rather than just "laying" his hand on them. There's a level of violence that is required to be an effective jammer, and Sherman displays it pretty frequently. When you're this physical/violent as a corner, you have to trust in your ability to turn and run, and recover if you "whiff" on your jam because you're taking a significant gamble, particularly with speedy, quick receivers, when you lean forward and get your arms extended to jolt them at the snap.
Your hand placement is key (inside shoulder pads is preferred) and you don't want to bend at the waist, but rather absorb impact with your lower body. Sherman, for being relatively new to the position, displayed improvement again in these areas yesterday, despite making some key mistakes. He played off (soft) coverage a bit more than we've seen in previous games, and did show some vulnerability to getting beat when he's not up on the line getting physical with the receiver.
Particularly on the TD pass to Brandon Lloyd, Sherman was fooled in space when Lloyd stutter stepped, stopped and started, as Sherman hadn't flipped his hips yet, and ended up getting around late to run downfield. Where he excels is in making initial contact at the line, then turning and running with the receiver where he can stop and start more effectively on this type of a fake. If he's back-pedaling still 15 yards down field, he's going to be susceptible to stop-start, and sharp cuts. He needs to get his hips around earlier, plain and simple. But, as he got back into press, he continued to shut down his opponent, particularly the slant. His quickness and agility are "plus" for his size and his approach to breaking up passes is well timed.
You can appreciate/notice this when you watch Brandon Browner who, although equally physical and long, does not possess the timing to routinely break up passes without initiating too much contact and ultimately drawing the pass interference penalty. Sherman rarely gets called for interference but maintains his physical play, doesn't allow cushion, isn't afraid to suffocate his opponent and gets his hand out to bat the ball. As a tackler, Sherman relies more on the "hit" than he should, but has been fortunate to make those hits count for tackles more often than not. Would like to see him target lower and wrap guys up at the knee or lower more frequently.
Sherman appears to be another great value pick (5th round) for Seattle who was initially thrust into the role as a patchwork starter, but is solidifying himself as a permanent starter.
3. K.J. Wright - LB - Mississippi State - 4th Round (99th overall)
Wright's zone discipline and gap control are exactly what Aaron Curry lacked. Playing on the strong side, he works well in tandem with Red Bryant in controlling and maintaining the inside gap where Bryant is able to redirect the runner by setting the edge and closing off the outside. Wright is active with his hands to shed 2nd level blocks, and displays good initial burst (quick first step) to close on the gap and finish on the runner.
He does tend to get a bit upright when engaging a blocker rather than keeping his pads low, so he loses some leverage, but his long arms and quick hands allow him to disengage and recover. When scraping down from the far side, he displays good speed to chase down the runner from behind. Solid, fundamental wrap up tackler. Will get lost in coverage from time to time or follow a man crossing the flat when he should stay put, but he rarely repeats the same mistakes, and he possesses the natural fluidity in space to be a good coverage ‘backer.
Against the Rams, Wright did a great job of diagnosing the run early and getting into position, sitting down on his gap and waiting for the runner to counter when plays were going to the opposite side (he didn't chase or over-pursue and leave his side vulnerable to the cutback), and was equally responsive to plug the hole when a run did come his way. Appears to be a quick learner. Could probably hold his own getting some reps at the LEO considering his good burst off the snap, long arms and active/quick hands.
He'll be tough to supplant as the starter because he learns so quickly and rarely repeats mistakes. Looks like a mainstay there for several years. There are two types of rookie starters in the NFL - permanent starters and patchwork starters. The former are guys who have earned their starting role and competed their way to the top of the depth chart, and the latter are guys who have been forced into a starting role due to depth chart issues (i.e. injuries, etc.).
Typically, 4th round picks who end up starting as rookies are patchwork starters. Wright is an absolute permanent starter, and has arguably been Seattle's best value pick from this year's draft.
4. Malcolm Smith - LB - USC - 7th Round (252nd overall)
Smith is being worked more into the defense, particularly on passing downs where his elite speed and athleticism enable him to be utilized as a rusher or in coverage. He struggles to shed blocks, so he relies on leverage and speed to beat bigger blockers and has fared decently in limited action. It's on special teams where he's had his greatest impact. He gets downfield quickly and possesses the strength and quickness to break the wedge or simply evade blockers laterally.
He's a run-and-hit tackler who can really lay a pop, and has targeted nicely as a gunner. As a linebacker, Smith is a developmental project whose athleticism offers the versatility to drop into coverage, rush the passer or even cover the slot. Look for him to compete for a more significant role backing up the weakside linebacker position (Leroy Hill's spot now), next season. In the meantime, he provides value on special teams.
5. Byron Maxwell - CB - Clemson - 6th Round(173rd overall)
Maxwell, like Smith, has been used primarily on special teams, although he definitely possesses some upside as a cornerback. In the preseason, Maxwell played tough press coverage at the line and also flashed the ability to cover the slot with better-than-expected foot quickness and straight line speed. He's physical, loves to hit and knows how to tackle.
Where he needs to show improvement if he wants to factor into the secondary on a consistent basis, is in his decision making and ability to correct mistakes. His aggression can be a bit overkill, and on special teams, he hasn't displayed the greatest judgment at times, repeating penalized mistakes. We haven't seen enough of him as a corner to evaluate his ability there yet, but in the meantime, he's a really valuable gunner on punt coverage in particular, and his style of play fits the physical nature that Pete Carroll is establishing with this team. He had a critical fumble recovery Sunday that may have saved the game for Seattle, when Leon Washington muffed a punt down in what would have been the red zone for St. Louis.
Seattle is getting good value out of Maxwell on special teams, but he'll need to show that he can stop costing the team yards with unnecessary penalties.
6. Lazarius Levingston - DL - LSU - 7th Round (205th overall)
Levingston has gotten limited reps rushing from the 3-technique position over the last two weeks, so we have a little bit of action to grade him on. Essentially, the ‘Hawks are hoping to capitalize on his plus quickness, to help generate an interior pass rush on throwing downs.
His quickness off the snap is evident, although he leads too often with his shoulder rather than extending his arms to engage from a distance and create space between him and his blocker. This makes it tough for him to disengage (or shed) his blocker. He gets a bit too upright off the snap, and he's not powerful enough in his lower half to anchor and hold position when the pad levels are too high, so he'll need to work on staying low if he wants to have a long-term NFL career, even in a rotational capacity.
He's above-average in the athleticism department, so the tools could be there. It's the technique that needs significant work. He was drafted to back up the 5 technique spot (strong side defensive end - Red Bryant's position), but his inability to generate push and consistently set the edge has brought him back to the inside where his quickness could be a good fit for the duties of that position, which are essentially to get upfield and pressure the quarterback.
Other Notable Rookies:
James Carpenter - OT - Alabama - 1st round (25th overall). On IR - Ranking before injury: 1
Carpenter improved immensely from week to week, particularly as a run blocker. He really just had to adjust to the speed of the NFL game and work to get into better physical shape. As he did, he got off the line quicker, used his lower body better and began driving opponents off the block with regularity. He still struggled in pass protection, but quickness improved and when he did get off the snap effectively, he showed plenty of range to seal off the edge on the right side.
He got good arm extension and would keep his feet moving rather than stopping as he did far too often in the preseason and early in the regular season. He's extremely powerful, and began getting to the second level quicker before his injury, which is necessary in this zone blocking scheme. Most of his pass-protection blunders came when he'd bend at the waist off the line and get over-extended, rather than stepping back first, getting into position and then allowing the rusher to come to him (which is what you'd like to see - more patience). When he would establish good position, he displayed shut-down ability.
Assuming he fully rebounds from the knee injury, look for him to get off to a similarly slow start next year, but settle back in and become a mainstay on the right side.
John Moffitt - OG - Wisconsin - 3rd round (75th overall). On IR - Ranking before injury: 3
Moffitt brought some nasty to the O-line and working in tandem with Carpenter, really began to establish the right half of the line as one that Seattle could spend a fair amount of time running behind. Like Carpenter, Moffitt struggled most in pass protection before his injury, as he just doesn't possess top lateral agility to mirror quicker DTs and seal them off with his feet.
What he can do, however, is get his arms extended, establish low position and deliver a significant punch to his opponents chest to slow him and knock him off balance. This is a serviceable pass-protection method from the interior, and is a technique that Moffitt should be able to get by on as long as he can generate consistency in establishing low position.
Moffitt is a pure power guy with decent straight-line speed and fair foot quickness to get downfield and square up at the second level.
Run blocking is really his thing. He can pull and seal at the outside, and he was targeting much more decisively as the season progressed. Like Carpenter, Moffitt simply needs more time to learn and adjust to the speed of the game and considering that there was no ACL tear, he should bounce back from the injury and be ready to go next year.
Kris Durham - WR - Georgia - 4th round (107th overall): On IR - Ranking before injury: 7
Durham is a guy that the team is excited about, but with Baldwin's unexpected success, there just hasn't been room for him on the active list much this season. When given the chance (against Pittsburgh), Durham made 3 nice grabs, showing clean routes and good hands-first technique to secure the ball.
He has above-average straight-line speed for his size and although he takes some time to get up to speed, accelerates better than both Mike Williams and Sidney Rice. Look for him to really push Mike Williams for time next season, and expect 2012 training camp to be a make-or-break opportunity for Golden Tate. Durham should be pushing both of them (and Ben Obomanu) for significant playing time by then.
Jarriel King - OL - South Carolina - UDFA: Active - No Ranking (My scouting report).
King has yet to play in a game but considering the injuries to Carpenter and Moffitt, he suddenly becomes a key depth piece along the offensive line. King was a left tackle at South Carolina and possesses impressive athleticism for a guy his size (6'5, 321lbs).
He has an ideal frame to play tackle, but he was simply too inconsistent technically to demand a selection in '11 at that position, and his history of off-field troubles is significant and disturbing enough that he was left off some draft boards altogether. The 'hawks feel that he could play guard, and his talent is undeniable. I'm excited to see what he could become with some solid coaching and better off-field judgment.
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Draft position really doesn't matter
if the player comes out and rocks the house, right?
Here’s to hoping the Seahawks really hit on their #1 pick this coming draft!
Always up for some Twitter action @nandron. I only talk NW sports, though.
It matters in that it's a bigger story if a 4th round pick turns into a solid NFL starter than a 1st round pick does.
Overall, this was actually a really, really good draft year for the Hawks, as good as a draft as I’ve seen since before Holmgren was the GM. The fact that KJ Wright is starting caliber is important in there because you can’t have 3 starters (actually 5 at this point due to Sherman and Baldwin… wel, sort of Baldwin) out of the draft without having later round guys make good.
"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)
by Johnny Slick on Nov 23, 2011 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
True.
At the time of the draft, I kept thinking – who are these guys? But that just proves that I am dumb. The team looks better and better with each draft. I think PC/JS have done a pretty damn good job recreating this team in just a couple years.
So whatever our draft position is for next year, at least we know that we’ll get some good players all over the field. A QB would be nice – but i’ll take an all-around awesome team with a decent QB for now.
by BennyGStein on Nov 23, 2011 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
You're absolutely right!
We need to hit big on 2012 first round pick. Hopefully a franchise QB!
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by Nick Andron on Nov 23, 2011 3:45 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Yes
Because if you can consistently get second, third, and fourth round players to come out and rock the house, it makes your draft more efficient and allows the team to build talent. That’s the secret of the current Green Bay Packers: they hit on so many picks that they have talented, deep rosters.
This is the most encouraging thing about the Pete Carroll/John Schneider Seahawks: They’re hitting on a high percentage of draft picks (knock on wood). That’s allowing them to accumulate a deeper, more talented roster. That’s awesome.
Kenny Easley
Hey off the subject how the hell is Kenny Easley not in the hall of fame discussion and Terrell Davis is a semi finalist? They both played seven years. Terrell 3 pro bowls, Easley 5. Terrell 3 all pros, Easley 3. Terrell 2,000 yards, Easley Defensive Rookie of the Year , NFL Defensive Player of the Year and along with Ronnie Lott revolutionized the safety position! What gives? What a load of crap.
Uh, posting this is in every thread are you?
Add some more information to it and turn it into a fanpost.
by MT Olson on Nov 23, 2011 9:15 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
One thing to note
How many of the Seahawks rookie successes are defensive players. I think PC has an eye for defensive talent. He knows how to find value later in the draft. I’m not as confident of his ability to find offensive talent, and I think the Seahawks may have to concentrate a bit on offense in coming drafts to continue to build the team.
But, the nice thing is how well the Seahawks’ rookies (and second year players) are performing. This is a young team, whose current youth is playing well and still has room for growth. That’s terrific.
As much as I like BMW...
…I think there’s a strong possibility he gets traded to a team like Tennessee in the offseason. With all the good young kids popping up, he’s kind of been the odd man out.
"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)
Not to mention
He isn’t improving… last year was a huge huge step… and he needed to use that as a springboard and he simply hasn’t. QB issues aside, he should still be inposition to improve personally as a WR and help elevate his & his QB’s opportunities, but watching him, that isn’t the case at all. He’s seemed to regress this year, and quite a bit at that.
Sad thing is that it’s all up to him….he’s obviously got the talent and the size & skills to amplify it… just isn’t getting it done.
I agree with you though. I think there’s more fire, fight and potential in the young’ns and BMW is letting himself get washed out.
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I guess I don't see it that way.
Unless he gets extended practice time with T-Jax, I just don’t see how he could take a step forward this year. He just hasn’t had the opportunity (in my opinion).
T-Jax isn’t going to throw to him unless he is wide open (and sometimes not even then). T-Jax already has his favorite target for a mismatch and it’s Rice. In addition, as you mentioned, we have ton of other receivers that look more open and that is where the ball seems to be going to.
I see BMW as a guy who can build on success but unfortunately this year has been tough because of lack of trust/relationship with QB and lack of time to build that trust in practice.
by goatweed on Nov 23, 2011 11:59 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Me as well. You can't just "put QB issues aside", they have an immutable place in the discussion and right now it's a big one.
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by Brandon8 on Nov 23, 2011 1:16 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
You can still evaluate a WR and grow as a player
watch his routes, watch his effort…and when he does get the ball going his way, what does he do with it?
He’s been out hustled, out worked, out effort(ed) … last year he wasn’t. He had his moments, but overall, he was a presence…when he was or wasn’t getting the ball, he at least made his presence made while he was working.
Now he seems lazy overall and doesn’t appear to be busting nearly as much ass as he did last year. And when the ball does go his way, he doesn’t seize it like he did last year and really go all out, get that ball, fight for it…. he is content with just doing his thing and if he doesn’t get the ball…oh well. You don’t see him doing stuff like Baldwin, jumping over a dude’s back and doing everything possible to get that ball. Williams had some of that in him last year….this year…he’s had his opportunities, as few as they were, and still didn’t do anything with them or do anything to expect otherwise.
The QB does factor, but maybe it’s Williams’ fault for not having that accord with the QB…. if he’s not working and willing to fight for the balls, run the right routes, or do so with authority…then maybe Jackson isn’t willing to trust that and jeopardize an opportunity elsewhere. Obviously it’s not all 100% Williams….but it’s also not 100% Jackson… and there’s more than enough time and tape to tell…. that he has regressed. For his own reasons, and sure, the QB too….but regardless, he isn’t that presence that he was last year and you can visibly see that.
He has more than enough talent, size and strength to dominate, we’ve seen those glimpses last year… he just needs to bust his ass and put in the full effort. There’s a reason he flamed out of the league initially … and that is because he didn’t do that and was simply lazy. So for all the talent he has, we also know he’s capable of the reverse.
If he can step up and reclaim some of what he was last year, then absofuckinglutely awesome. Please do.
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You should preface every one of your posts with "I could bewrong, but"
by jhmg16 on Nov 23, 2011 8:25 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
If you get to that point, then rewrite your post so it's more clear and doesn't require several points with ellipses
“Clear and concise” is a better way to get your point across than “long-winded and unsure”.
Also, please don't start every point with "Don't get me wrong" or "I could be wrong"
Have the courage of your convictions.
Lack of effort? I saw him get a concussion blocking.
On the other hand, I have seen him wide open, doing jumping jacks, while Jackson throws into double coverage to Rice. I am unwilling to question someones effort, hustle or desire unless it’s very evident on the field.
I am not placing blame on anyone, especially not Jackson. I am merely pointing at the possible cause of drop in production. Jackson trusts Rice and will throw to him if he is single covered and covered well. Jackson will not do the same with BMW. It’s even more damning for BMW cause he doesn’t separate from the defender. It’s not that Jackson isn’t a good QB (different debate all together), it’s because he doesn’t trust BMW as yet.
There’s a reason he flamed out of the league initially … and that is because he didn’t do that and was simply lazy. So for all the talent he has, we also know he’s capable of the reverse.
I subscribe to the idea that once someone hits rock bottom, he is less likely to go down that same path again. As it stands, I would not question the man’s effort seeing how far he has come.
Williams...
…isn’t a guy that really creates separation – he uses his body to shield and leaping ability on the high balls – at least that’s where he had his success last year. Tarvaris simple hasn’t been willing to trust him with a wide open Baldwin, Rice, or Obomanu roaming about.
I know how everyone feels about video game references, but I think the same rule applies when you’re trying to force it to a guy to get stats; throw to the open receiver and let who gets the catches sort itself out. And it is sorting itself out; Williams may be the third or even fourth-best receiver on this offense as it is currently configured.
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That's a valid point
Video game or not… you’re right
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During the draft
I remember thinking WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE!? I knew Mark Legree, I was excited about that pick. Oops. And then they start to play and I’m like.. I will never doubt Pete Carroll and John Schneider again.
Sometimes, I wonder if the football Gods gave us so many injuries in 08/09 so we would fire Ruskell/Mora and could get these PC/JS. They pitied us for having suffered enough. Random wild and crazy thoughts aside, great article.
Keep these coming
Great read, love to see what others think about our young players.
Loving Richard Sherman
Although I will admit I thought Maxwell had more potential.
Very good read
As an aside, I heard Pete Carroll on NFL Radio. He’s a regular guest on Pat Kirwin’s and Tim Ryan’s afternoon drivetime show. (Ryan was the analyst on the Fox broadcast for the StL game.) Evidently, Kirwin and Ryan’s staff investigated “large CB tandems” and found that Sherman and Browner are the biggest tandem in NFL history.
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No, it's a cool stat, in the same way that anything that is "the most" anything is interesting.
I’m just amused that after the 14 million mentions of this topic by Tim Ryan during the game, it was brought up again on a radio show. These hacks drive me nuts.
Here in Denver Mark Schlereth is on the local evening drivetime sports talk radio show, and he’s frequently on Mike and Mike in the morning. He makes the exact.same.comments on each show. To the letter. To the inflection. To the silly anecdote that tries to sound spontaneous. It’s just amazing to me that these former athletes get away with having their writing team throw together a few notes, and then they get to basically syndicate it across a half dozen outlets.
In fairness, I do fucking hate Mark Schlereth though.
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Jerry Rice Rookie Year: 49-927-3 (18.9)
Doug Baldwin (Projected): 51-877-3 (17.0)
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Dougie is fifth in the league for 20+ yd receptions
that’s crazy good for a UDFA
Heresy grows from idleness.
by Corax --Nevermore-- on Nov 23, 2011 7:25 PM PST reply actions
Crazy good for any WR!
5th on explosive catches over 20yards….anyone could hang their hat on that
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I loved this article...
It really has me thinking how good Schneider is at spotting players. Only thing I don’t agree with is Baldwin being comparable to a Steve Breaston or Randall Cobb or even Bobby Engram. I honestly believe Doug is his own special kind of player and if he stays healthy he’ll have a career twice as good as any of those guys ever did or ever will.
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