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Splicing Steven Jackson into the carbonite chamber was one of the more unexpected changes in the Star wars Blu-Ray.


The Huskies won 7 games, beat the Cougars, are bowl-bound and I still feel a little disappointed.  That's about as sure a sign as any that the Huskies are back.  Good work, Sark.  Now do something about the goddamn defense.  On the other side of the Cascades, it appears that Paul Wulff is out.  I'm sorry, Kenny.  On second thought, I take that back.  I'm laughing at you, Kenny.

Anyway, here's the morning lineup:

HOU@JAC

BUF@NYJ

CLE@CIN

MIN@ATL

ARI@STL

CAR@IND

TB@TEN

 

When I posted the coverage map last night, my first thought was, "wait, Bills and Jets is the best CBS can do?"  After scanning the lineup again, my second thought was, "wow, that is the best they can do."  The Red Zone channel is your best friend this morning.

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Fox Just Gave Up

This morning, there isn’t even a game on this morning in the LA/SoCal area from FOX. Talk about dropping the ball. TGFI (thank goodness for internet)

Live work and breathe like an optimist.

by JRock419 on Nov 27, 2011 9:43 AM PST reply actions  

I am sitting on the ferry just leaving Bremerton

Headed to the game today. My friend texted me last night and let me know about cheap tickets and I grabbed some in the Hawks’ Nest for $20. Just made a 45 minute drive in 35 mins in pouring rain, and I’m gonna see me some Hawks kickin’ little injun butt today ;)

by Matt Erickson on Nov 27, 2011 9:56 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions  

Where'd you get them for $20?

I made the mistake of deciding to take the next ferry. Wish I was on there with all the Hawks fans.

Twitter- @GriffinNW

by GriffinNW on Nov 27, 2011 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Stub-Hub

There were a few others at 11:30 last night. Probably gone now. Too bad you didn’t take this one. Woulda been cool to meet another FG’er.

by Matt Erickson on Nov 27, 2011 10:08 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Where did you find hawks nest for 20?

I went to the bengals game in the nest for $40

by Aaron Crowley on Nov 27, 2011 10:00 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Rex Ryan and Sanchise

1st Team All Overrated. This should be a shit-tastic game..

by Aaron Crowley on Nov 27, 2011 9:59 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Hooray! 2 3 and outs to open the game!

This is going to be GREAT.

"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)

by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Matthew Stafford

"You are the molders of their dreams." - Clark Mollenhoff

by EequalsMc2 on Nov 27, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Um, I'm pretty sure he was thinking of Mike Teel.

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by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Definitely.

The line, the weapons, the running game, the defense…my god.

"You are the molders of their dreams." - Clark Mollenhoff

by EequalsMc2 on Nov 27, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Honestly, the hype machine in NY is so high it's hard to tell who is actually good and who isn't.

Well, Revis is definitely awesome, but beyond that, how can you even tell LT isn’t washed up when they think Sanchez is an NFL quality quarterback over there?

"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)

by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

I meant the Jets team two years ago.

"You are the molders of their dreams." - Clark Mollenhoff

by EequalsMc2 on Nov 27, 2011 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

good point though.

Hard to ignore all the press coverage and Espn site coverage…not to mention all the wins the Jets had back then, which makes everyone look better, but can be a product of other factors.

by paul2 on Nov 27, 2011 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

12th Man Clan!

So fired up for today! Today we make it a 3 game win streak!
First game of the season for me, couldn’t be more excited! Even if the weather has been rainy all morning with 90% chance of rain for the game.

GO SEAHAWKS!

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by GriffinNW on Nov 27, 2011 10:00 AM PST reply actions  

I'm stoked for you man!

Make sure Rex can’t hear Clemons coming up behind him!

by Aaron Crowley on Nov 27, 2011 10:03 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Sea of Blue is all he is gonna see!

Hope to see some picks from our D-Boys.

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by GriffinNW on Nov 27, 2011 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Rams are rumored to be cleaning house

A little surprising, but Spags was probably doomed with this massive regression regardless of the injury situation.

What’s really hilarious is that McDaniels is once again a part of a coaching staff wipeout.

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 10:08 AM PST reply actions  

Let's have the 49ers hire him next!

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by EequalsMc2 on Nov 27, 2011 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Jacksonville fumble return for TD

I picked up their defense today and started them over Washington’s.

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 10:13 AM PST reply actions  

Sanchez is trade bait. If there's no running game he's terrible

When there is a running game he’s mediocre.

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 10:14 AM PST reply actions  

Same here, although it should be noted that at the college level he was exactly the kind of QB PC is looking for.

Whereas Ryan Fitzpatrick… not at all PC’s kind of guy. Well, at the pro level neither is Sanchez; his complete lack of accuracy might not have been as damning in college but it makes him useless in the NFL game.

"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)

by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I've said it a couple of times before

Pete Carroll has a horrible track record of producing top-level offensive talent out of USC. Carson Palmer was not his recruit so he doesn’t count.

The best offensive player to come out of Carroll’s tenure is Fred Davis or Steve Smith. That’s it.

Then you look at the defense and it’s completely different. Terell Thomas, Clay Matthews, Brian Cushing, Lofa Tatupu, etc.

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Exactly, his scheme made the players work.

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by EequalsMc2 on Nov 27, 2011 10:43 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm not saying he's a HOFer, or anything, but....

Reggie Bush has had a more successful (albeit injury-prone) career than either Davis or Smith. Totally overrated and over-drafted, but still better.

by J.L. White on Nov 27, 2011 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I like Reggie Bush and don't think it's his fault he was drafted so high.

He’d be a great Brian Mitchell type for a team who cared to use him that way.

"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)

by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

More so than accuracy

He makes terrible decisions. Repeatedly forcing it into coverage, not making his progressions properly. Just terrible fundamentals

by Aaron Crowley on Nov 27, 2011 10:23 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

From Sando's blog:
The Rams have the third-oldest 53-man roster in the league heading into Week 12. The Cardinals rank sixth-oldest.

Just. Wow. If you’re going to be awful, why not be awful and young? I guess Spags is thinking if he can somehow finish 6-10 he might still have a job… good luck with that!

"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)

by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 10:21 AM PST reply actions  

He's not going to have a job

It’s probably too late for him.

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Injuires are a big part of that

If your young starters get injured, your first option is to bring in players that used to play for you and are familiar with the system. If those aren’t available you go get veterans who at least know the NFL. You can’t bring in mediocre young guys unfamiliar with regular playing time or your system and expect them not to be worthless.

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by Trenchtown on Nov 27, 2011 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

But the problem is, were they in a position to contend?

Sure, they could’ve won the NFC West just as easily they could’ve lost it, did management made the mistake the Seahawks didn’t, and really “push” for the playoffs when their talent level was not even there?

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by EequalsMc2 on Nov 27, 2011 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

The weird thing is, I didn't really see them do that either.

Like, this offseason they knew they basically had one WR worth anything (Danny Amendola) and they did nothing to surround him with talent, alt least not until the trade deadline (by which time he was injured anyway). I flat-out don’t know what St. Louis is doing right now. That indicates to me less of a coaching issue and more of a FO issue.

"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)

by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

And they're winning the game!

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I just saw a guy with a Hogs hat on the ferry

He better not be around to get off in Seattle.

by Matt Erickson on Nov 27, 2011 10:28 AM PST via iPhone app reply actions  

Holy crap

The option play?

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 10:29 AM PST reply actions  

Vick is questionable for Thursday

Good. If he’s out I think Seattle can win that game. Vick is the exact type of QB Seattle gets torched by.

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 10:32 AM PST reply actions  

What happened?

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Well the Titans just got the ball back

So it didn’t kill them too much.

Oh yeah and it happened against the Bucs. Oh the coincidence!

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Okay, I thought the Colts would beat the Panthers

I’m dumb.

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 10:41 AM PST reply actions  

I mean, Sanchez is missing wide open receivers

And I don’t think Rex is that loyal to Mark. Sanchez is on borrowed time.

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 10:43 AM PST reply actions  

Sanchez's biggest weakness is short accuracy across the middle

He has a lot of trouble hitting slants and drags where putting the ball in stride is so important

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by Trenchtown on Nov 27, 2011 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm gonna go ahead and say it:

I really think the Colts are legitimately tanking. How else can they make such a ridiculous 180??

by Aaron Crowley on Nov 27, 2011 10:44 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

They aren't tanking

They’re that bad without Manning. It’s damning of Polian and he hasn’t drafted anyone good since Dallas Clark.

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

And it also explains how freaking awesome Peyton Manning is on the side.

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by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Exactly.

That’s why the last 4 or 5 MVP awards was given to him.

"You are the molders of their dreams." - Clark Mollenhoff

by EequalsMc2 on Nov 27, 2011 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Yes it does

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

I get it that manning makes them better,

I really do. But this is ridiculous. They have completely given up. I havent seen anything like it since the Mora Seahawks. Polian should be run out of the league after being exposed so egregiously

by Aaron Crowley on Nov 27, 2011 10:48 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Polian is a good enough GM to get you to the Super Bowl

Only to be disappointed.

Six Super Bowl trips and one win (four with Buffalo, two with Indy).

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Not that I'm a Polian fan.

But if your biggest problem with a GM is that he takes you to six super bowls and only wins one, I’d like to have your problems.

by Nate Dogg on Nov 27, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Polian is old; the Colts need to start over from scratch.

The Colts are more than an Andrew Luck/healthy Peyton Manning away from re-contention; they need a full rebuild.

by J.L. White on Nov 27, 2011 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Which would make bringing in Luck a good idea.

Let Manning steward a bad team Hasselbeck style for a couple years, then give it over once they’ve got pieces in place.

"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)

by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

You think the fan base would let him do that?

"You are the molders of their dreams." - Clark Mollenhoff

by EequalsMc2 on Nov 27, 2011 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

They've been talking about drafting Luck for a while, and the money works now.

And if you have a guy like Manning, you can get away with not starting Luck. I’m sure the fanbase would like that #1 to be traded off so they can grab some more parts but I don’t know that that’s the right move at all, not when a guy like Luck is available.

"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)

by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

If I have Peyton Manning on my roster, I have the luxury of forcing Luck to prove he's ready at the very least.

Maybe I design a 2 QB offense!!! Okay, maybe not.

"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)

by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

How much of that was the signing bonus/guaranteed though?

Sunk cost is sunk cost.

"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)

by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

This has been said many times, but I'll repeat it:

If the Colts cut Manning after the season (and he remains off the field for the rest of this season), the Colts can cancel the contract without owing him one red cent.

Also, if the Colts trade Manning, the next team will have to pay his contract (which probably would be restructured).

by J.L. White on Nov 27, 2011 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Or he can retire and be Farve all over again

"You are the molders of their dreams." - Clark Mollenhoff

by EequalsMc2 on Nov 27, 2011 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

OK, thanks. Have they really paid off the signing bonus? Whoa.

Still, the field is a little different with the new draft cap; in years past it just wouldn’t have been fiscally responsible to pay 2 QBs starting money, but Luck won’t make starter’s money until his 4th year in the league.

"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)

by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

He signed the contract before this season, but hasn't played a snap yet.

The Colts can essentially void his contract after this season, like it never happened. I’m not sure about what kind of signing bonus Peyton got, but it wouldn’t effect the Colt’s cap (for whatever reason).

by J.L. White on Nov 27, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh, right.

"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)

by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

And going back to the earlier bit about not wanting Peyton in Seattle.

I’d take PM in Seattle in under a second. Are you kidding me? Injury or no, he’s PEYTON MANNING.

"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)

by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

He's also 35, expensive and suffering from a severe neck injury.

It’s a risk, and it would take a lot of resources to acquire him.

by J.L. White on Nov 27, 2011 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

The neck injury is a much, much bigger issue than his age.

"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)

by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

It would feel like sloppy seconds to me.

But I understand what you’re saying.

by jhmg16 on Nov 27, 2011 12:23 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I agree. This is why I demand Seattle to field a team entirely of UDFAs and win the Super Bowl.

"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)

by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

That's not exactly fair.

I’m just saying there’s something about bringing in a hall of fame qb and winning the franchise’s first ever Super Bowl in his first year that doesn’t sit well.

by jhmg16 on Nov 27, 2011 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Gotta say it again:

THE COLTS ARE NOT GONNA KEEP BOTH MANNING AND LUCK!!!!!

by J.L. White on Nov 27, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

You never know with Bill Polian

"You are the molders of their dreams." - Clark Mollenhoff

by EequalsMc2 on Nov 27, 2011 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

If that's the case, the Manning Sweepstakes next year will be ASTOUNDING.

Also, I wouldn’t count that out; this isn’t like years past where you had to pay a #1 pick like an established player. The Colts could easily afford Luck’s rookie contract and keep Manning on the roster.

"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)

by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

How sure are we about Peyton's neck?

Can he take another hit without re-aggravating it? Has he regained his arm strength? Can his neck issue be a chronic condition that could flare up at any time? Can any of these questions be reasonably answered before Peyton takes the field again?

by J.L. White on Nov 27, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Just on the NYJ-BUF game:

Marv Albert giving his color guy a hard time for being old-fashioned: “Did you just say you watch FILM!? That’s VIDEOTAPE now!”

I love Marv Albert. You never exactly know when he’s being ironic, because he’s ironic just often enough to make you think.

"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)

by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 10:45 AM PST reply actions  

Rex Ryan will be fired by next season, maybe even sooner.

Count on it.

"You are the molders of their dreams." - Clark Mollenhoff

by EequalsMc2 on Nov 27, 2011 10:48 AM PST reply actions  

Except that with those two years, expectations have risen to "Super Bowl or Bust"

And with Sanchez at QB and the aging defense, New York will call for his head.

"You are the molders of their dreams." - Clark Mollenhoff

by EequalsMc2 on Nov 27, 2011 10:50 AM PST up reply actions  

I still half expect to see Mangenius on the sidelines.

"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)

by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 10:51 AM PST up reply actions  

care to explain?

Or is this a patented Bold Prediction?

by paul2 on Nov 27, 2011 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

See above.

"You are the molders of their dreams." - Clark Mollenhoff

by EequalsMc2 on Nov 27, 2011 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

oh.

Mob with pitchforks.

by paul2 on Nov 27, 2011 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Here's a thought, if the Colts really want to draft Luck

Do the Jets make a play for Manning and dump Sanchez?

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 10:51 AM PST reply actions  

If manning can make the colts look great

Imagine what he could do with the jets

by Aaron Crowley on Nov 27, 2011 10:53 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Manning needs to be on a team that can contend

Which is why as much as I’d want him to be Seahawks QB, this team is not good enough (or smart enough) to buy into Manning’s hand signals and crazy crap.

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Exactly.

If you’re bringing him in, you’re also bringing in a new OC as well

"You are the molders of their dreams." - Clark Mollenhoff

by EequalsMc2 on Nov 27, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Granted, Manning would be a much better OC than Bevell

Still not sold on DB even with our running game working.

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

With the Jets' cap space? I don't think so.

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by EequalsMc2 on Nov 27, 2011 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Denver @ Minnesota got flexed from CBS to FOX. I didn't even know you could do that.

And the Seattle market gets to see TEBOW!

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 10:53 AM PST reply actions  

HOORAY TEBOWMANIA

Well, it’s possibly better than the Hasselmania we had earlier this year.

"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)

by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 10:54 AM PST reply actions  

That picture is

amazeballs

Can't wait for the 2011 season to kick in.

I'm a one man rec'n crew

by jubelthebear on Nov 27, 2011 10:55 AM PST reply actions  

John Skelton update!

4/10 for 23 yards with 2 sacks and a pick.

Good for a passer rating of 8.3.

by zifnab32 on Nov 27, 2011 10:55 AM PST reply actions  

I thought Skelton was benched this week already.

"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)

by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Benched last week

Kolb is still injured

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 10:57 AM PST up reply actions  

He dismantled an entire Super Bowl roster

To bring in 56 year old Steelers.

Joey Porter!

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

As it turns out, Kurt Warner was pretty good, too.

"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)

by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

HOF?

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by EequalsMc2 on Nov 27, 2011 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Honestly, I don't know. He was really, really good but he had a very short peak.

"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)

by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Sanchize is 4-12 for 20, so IT IS A REAL BATTLE THIS WEEK.

"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)

by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I think he was juuuuuuuuust outside of the tackles.

Barely, but there.

"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)

by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

I don't think he threw it past the line of scrimage

Which also leads me to think there was an eligible receiver there

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by Trenchtown on Nov 27, 2011 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm assuming there was a half back somewhere in that group of linemen

He didn’t have to throw it where he did, so he probably chose to throw there intentionally

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by Trenchtown on Nov 27, 2011 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

That woman in the Santa Claus Best Buy commercial is one scary-looking chick

She looks like she’s about to murder Santa.

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 11:03 AM PST reply actions  

Santa gets little respect nowadays.

"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)

by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

DAMN, nice punt at least!

You don’t see the coffin corner much nowadays.

"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)

by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 11:08 AM PST reply actions  

SANCHIZE PICKED OFF

IT IS OFFICIAL HE IS WORSE THAN SKELTON

"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)

by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 11:10 AM PST reply actions  

haha

Sanchez

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by ironheart777 on Nov 27, 2011 11:10 AM PST reply actions  

...and it's 14-7 Bills.

Which might be the final score the way these teams look.

"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)

by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Hey Colts tied!

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by EequalsMc2 on Nov 27, 2011 11:11 AM PST reply actions  

Gabbert looking sorta bad

Guess last year wasn’t a very good QB-year after all….

Leinart looking, well “Ok”, all of a sudden.

Confuscius say- "Baseball wrong. Man with four balls cannot walk."

by Outside Contain on Nov 27, 2011 11:11 AM PST reply actions  

Have any of the QB's

in this years draft worked out besides Newton?

Do or do not, there is no try-Yoda

by ironheart777 on Nov 27, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Ryan Mallet?

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by EequalsMc2 on Nov 27, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Dalton's been all right.

Also, it usually takes a couple years for guys to do stuff.

"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)

by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Andy Dalton

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by Trenchtown on Nov 27, 2011 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

I was more talking about Dirty Sanchez

But I suppose it can be a general question

by Aaron Crowley on Nov 27, 2011 11:15 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm comfortable calling him a bust right now.

He’s no Jamarcus Russell but boy is he bad.

"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)

by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh sorry,

I thought you were referring to Gabbert

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by ironheart777 on Nov 27, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

He's just average.

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by EequalsMc2 on Nov 27, 2011 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

I think when they stop improving

Sanchez is still improving, albeit very slowly

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by Trenchtown on Nov 27, 2011 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

I disagree

My eyes tell me he’s regressed. But i’m certainly no expert

by Aaron Crowley on Nov 27, 2011 11:18 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Ryan is not Brett Farve

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by EequalsMc2 on Nov 27, 2011 11:16 AM PST reply actions  

CRAZY TRAIN IS NOT A FAMILY SONG

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by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 11:17 AM PST reply actions  

Holy shit

Rainier hasn’t made this game any better. Not good

by Aaron Crowley on Nov 27, 2011 11:17 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Maybe sleep?

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by EequalsMc2 on Nov 27, 2011 11:17 AM PST up reply actions  

It would just devolve into nightmares

About bumbled kickoffs, handoffs for 1yard, and Rex Ryan’s veneers

by Aaron Crowley on Nov 27, 2011 11:20 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Wow, the Bills D have zero respect for Sanchez' accuracy.

They’re undercutting every last one of his routes. Even on this TD drive he managed to look like ass.

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by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 11:21 AM PST reply actions  

Now Leinart's down.

Wow

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by EequalsMc2 on Nov 27, 2011 11:23 AM PST reply actions  

He's looking better than Leinart

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by EequalsMc2 on Nov 27, 2011 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

They are blitzing the hell out of him to rattle him

Which has resulted in 3 open receivers, a thrown away pass, and an intentional grounding

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by Trenchtown on Nov 27, 2011 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Holy crap

Ryan doesn’t even trust Sanchez to do a Hail Mary.

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 11:31 AM PST reply actions  

I don't think he has the arm strength to throw the ball 60 yards.

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by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Another Hasselpick!

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by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 11:55 AM PST reply actions  

Hasselpick 6

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 11:56 AM PST reply actions  

Titans SBN blog is going batshit to put Locker in

How things have changed.

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Hasselbeck actually started out well

But looking at the stats he’s gotten worse each week.

Just like 2010 and 2009.

Body can’t handle 16 games anymore.

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

This year, I think it was more about he has a noodle arm but good accuracy and the first part of the year his new AFC opponents hadn't fully scouted him.

Now the word is out over there as well.

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by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

What the hell? 17-7 Browns?

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 11:56 AM PST reply actions  

Bucs/Titans sounds like a really ugly game

And holy crap that is a terrible pick 6 by Hasselbeck.

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 11:58 AM PST reply actions  

Give Sanchez some credit, he was pretty good on that drive

The first pass to Keller was right where it needed to be, good sell on the screen to McKnight

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by Trenchtown on Nov 27, 2011 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Cam Newton could become the best 2-14 QB ever.

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by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

That's Peyton Manning

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by EequalsMc2 on Nov 27, 2011 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Manning was I think 6-10 his first year.

Aikman is noted though.

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by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

WELL I WAS CLOSE

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by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Stan Gelbaugh

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by Lo Pann on Nov 27, 2011 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

AH CRAP POST RETRACTED.

We should have given Gelbaugh a nickname, like “Dump Off Jesus”.

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by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Gotta love it; my FFL opponent benched Beanie Wells right before gametime. HA!

Luckily for the Seahawks, both the Cards and Rams look pretty awful today.

by J.L. White on Nov 27, 2011 12:02 PM PST reply actions  

Blaine Gabbert is just shellshocked

It’s 2010 Jimmy Clausen all over again.

by Benne on Nov 27, 2011 12:03 PM PST reply actions  

I don't know why Big XII QBs suck so bad in the pros

Guess it has to do with the style of offense

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

And the line.

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by EequalsMc2 on Nov 27, 2011 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

It also might in this case have to do with the notion that Gabbert/Clausen were only ever going to be good if they had a chance to hold a clipboard for a couple years and learn the pro game.

Heck, Gabbert could still prosper if the Jags bring in a vet and let him learn the ropes.

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by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Perhaps the lack of QB coaching acumen on behalf of Jack Del Rio and John Fox is moireresponsible here.

Other than a few decent seasons of David Gerrard and Jack Delhomme, both coaches have a very poor history in that department.

by J.L. White on Nov 27, 2011 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Jesus Matt

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by EequalsMc2 on Nov 27, 2011 12:04 PM PST reply actions  

Damn Patrick!

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by EequalsMc2 on Nov 27, 2011 12:06 PM PST reply actions  

WHAT A PLAY BY BRAD SMITH!!!!

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 12:08 PM PST reply actions  

IMMACULATE JETSCEPTION

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by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 12:09 PM PST reply actions  

OHHHHHH

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by EequalsMc2 on Nov 27, 2011 12:09 PM PST reply actions  

Not gonna lie, a nice throw by Matt

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by EequalsMc2 on Nov 27, 2011 12:13 PM PST reply actions  

Dangerous throw by Sanchize.

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by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 12:15 PM PST reply actions  

Three in a row

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by Trenchtown on Nov 27, 2011 12:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Good.

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by EequalsMc2 on Nov 27, 2011 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Bad for playoffs hopes?

Don’t we want the Falcons to win the division as they hold the tiebreaker against us?

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by RagingAlot on Nov 27, 2011 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Huh.

Yep you’re right

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by EequalsMc2 on Nov 27, 2011 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Did Sterling Sharpe just call Andy Dalton "The Red Rocket"?

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by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 12:19 PM PST reply actions  

Best case scenario, we don't care.

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by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe the Cards, since we play the Rams in 2 weeks.

No matter what, the Cards are going to be looking at their draft position come Week 17.

by J.L. White on Nov 27, 2011 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

But the Cards beat Philadelphia

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by EequalsMc2 on Nov 27, 2011 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I think "how many times did you beat Arizona" is way, way down on the list of tiebreakers.

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by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Fitzpatrick is throwing lasers

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 12:23 PM PST reply actions  

A media meme

In that his alleged offensive genius in New England could be transferrable to any place he went.

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

That's Eric Mangini

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by EequalsMc2 on Nov 27, 2011 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

And Romeo Crennel

It’s pretty hilarious how badly the Belichick coaching tree bombed.

by Benne on Nov 27, 2011 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Pioli's Chiefs pretty much crumbled in an entire year

Charlie Weis is somewhere…

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh that's even worse.

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Muschamp was a good hire

I think that will work well in the next couple years once they get rid of Brantley at QB

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by Trenchtown on Nov 27, 2011 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I never got the point of doing sneaks on second and short.

You should take that as a free play. Gun it downfield. Or run it up the gut, knowing the D will be looking that way. But a sneak gets you one whole extra down. Hooray.

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by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 12:30 PM PST reply actions  

Branch inactive

Clinton McDonald to start.

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 12:31 PM PST reply actions  

Aw, man!

Oh well, I’ve been wanting to see if McDonald was truly worth Kelly Jennings in trade for some time now anyway.

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by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

He was Torrey Smith's bitch last week

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

That's a good rebuttal.

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by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm excited

From what I’ve seen McDonald has played well.

by Nate Dogg on Nov 27, 2011 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

RUVELL MARTIN!!!

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 12:31 PM PST reply actions  

Seahawks inactives

Seahawks Inactives: QB Portis, WR Butler, CB Parker, CB Maxwell, OT King, OT Barbre, DT Branch."

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 12:33 PM PST reply actions  

No

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by EequalsMc2 on Nov 27, 2011 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

He's off the PUP list

So he’s just plain inactive I guess.

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I think he just has to be on the 53 man roster.

Which he is.

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by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Fitzpatrick has gone past "hipster" and into "software developer" level of beard.

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by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 12:34 PM PST reply actions  

Make that 3 years.

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by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Laaugh at Sanchez!

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by EequalsMc2 on Nov 27, 2011 12:37 PM PST reply actions  

For who?

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by EequalsMc2 on Nov 27, 2011 12:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Mark Brunell, presumably.

Unless Kellen Clemens is still in the league.

by Benne on Nov 27, 2011 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Clemens got signed by someone already.

I wanna say KC.

"There's an old saying - revenge is a dish best served immediately."

by Hmph on Nov 27, 2011 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

KC also just signed Kyle Orton.

Still a HORRIBLE move by Elway.

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by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

The Jets' backup MARK BRUNELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GOOOO NATIONAL CHAMPION HUSKIES

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by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes. Super Bowl champion!

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn't exist when he was drafted

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

His senior year was my senior year in HS.

Which translates to “get off my lawn, whippersnapper!”.

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by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Blaine Gabbert is going to be a smudge on the field by the end of the game.

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by Hmph on Nov 27, 2011 12:37 PM PST reply actions  

No, what's hurting the Jets offense more than anything is the fact that Sanchez can't throw with any accuracy.

Yeah, one play had guys mixed up. That doesn’t make up for the entire rest of the game.

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by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 12:38 PM PST reply actions  

Wow, those Bud Light commercials suuuuure do understand us football fans!

It sure is realistic that Seahawks and Rams fans would meet up in a bathroom, since Seattle is only NEARLY TWO THOUSAND MILES AWAY from St. Louis.

And, c’mon….when was the last time that Rams fans ACTUALLY gave a shit? Puh-leeeeze.

by J.L. White on Nov 27, 2011 12:38 PM PST reply actions  

They probably met in a bathroom outside of St. Louis' stadium.

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by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

(insert wide stance joke here)

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by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Jesus Christ Beanie Wells

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by EequalsMc2 on Nov 27, 2011 12:47 PM PST reply actions  

Touchdown Titans

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 12:50 PM PST reply actions  

And Skelton's finally hit triple digits in passing.

How much it must suck to be Larry Fitzgerald in that offense.

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by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Gabbert is benched

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by SSreporters on Nov 27, 2011 12:54 PM PST reply actions  

Damn, Plaxico bailed Sanchez way out of a bad pass.

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by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 12:54 PM PST reply actions  

Apparently not.

Dammit.

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by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

OHHHHHH HORRIBLE DROP

That might have been game right there.

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by Johnny Slick on Nov 27, 2011 1:01 PM PST reply actions  

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