294 Yards to Go.....
by SSreporters on Nov 29, 2011 11:00 AM PST
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PrintThere are so many things wrong with the Seattle Seahawks it's not even funny. But with the playoffs out of the question it's time to point out maybe the biggest positive of the 2011 Seattle Seahawks Season. It has nothing to do with the defense, Doug Baldwin, or Jon Ryan.
It's all about Mr. Beast Mode himself, Marshawn Lynch.
Marshawn Lynch said "Hold muh dick", which Brandon Browner took literally, and was penalized 15 yards.
Yes, Marshawn Lynch has 706 yards on the ground and as many 100 yard games this year than Julius Jones did in this entire Seahawks career. My math skills tell me Lynch needs only 294 yards in the final 5 games, which averages out to a whopping 58.8 yards per game, and he'll be the first Seahawks player to rush for 1,000 yards since Shaun Alexander's 2005 MVP season. Seattle's running game has been so pathetic that no Seahawk has even reached 900 yards since '05.
Another statistic that should be noted is that Lynch has scored 12 rushing touchdowns in his Seahawks career, which is more TDs than Mo Morris, Julius Jones, and Justin Forsett combined. Things were so bad that prior to the 2011 season the leading RB in Seahawks TDs post-Shaun was still TJ Duckett, who scored all 8 of his touchdowns in his singular season with Seattle in 2008. It should be mentioned that Duckett scored all of his TDs against the NFC West, which means he only got into the end zone in 6 games.
Did anyone expect to see Marshawn Lynch on pace to have a 1,000 yard season after the disastrous first month of the year Seattle had run-blocking and just running the ball in general? After week 4, Lynch had just 139 yards on 48 carries, which isn't even 3 YPC. It's even more encouraging when you lose your starting RG and RT and still manage another 100 yard performance and an 88 yard effort just pounding the rock. As hopeless as our QBs are this is maybe the most positive sign moving forward for this team. Doesn't it feel good that the Seahawks can once again convert 3rd and 1 by running? Isn't it wonderful when this team doesn't have to throw because of the lack of a goal-line power back when they're inside the 5?
Maybe I'm being premature here, but it feels like the running game is back again. And that has me pumped, jacked, and fired up.
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The 1,000 benchmark is more of a status symbol than actual measure of talent, but goddamn I would love to have that status symbol now.
by Benne on Nov 28, 2011 3:53 PM PST reply actions 12 recs
In this day, wouldn't it be opposite? Like DeAngelo Williams, Jonathan Stewart, and Cam Newton all contributing but none of them being a 1,000 yard rusher?
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by Kenneth Arthur on Nov 29, 2011 2:37 PM PST up reply actions
It could possibly.
In the first instance, if we have primarily one runner who gets more than 1k yardage, while the Panthers have runners that get 800/600/300 respectively, who was more productive? The RB by committee approach wins, but I think it does say something for the hawks managing to have a workhorse back who can carry the load.
So I don’t think 1000 yards says anything special about the age they play in, but just the fact they were productive enough to maintain the amount of carries needed to get to 1000 yards, by one player.
by Neonjerseysplease on Nov 29, 2011 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
if my rambling made no sense, I apologize. It made sense in my head.
by Neonjerseysplease on Nov 29, 2011 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
The 62.5 yards/game benchmark sounds way less impressive.
by Nate Dogg on Nov 28, 2011 5:42 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
It actually kind of annoys me, considering we have Leon and Forsett on the roster.
Both of whom should be getting more carries.
Why? Lynch is much better than either or them carrying the ball
Especially Forsett, who is replacement level. Leon is a good change of pace back, but he’s too important to special teams to run the ball 10-15 times a game.
by Mariner_Drunkard on Nov 29, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
I felt this way through Week 3
No mas.
by jhmg16 on Nov 29, 2011 11:25 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah, I'm a huge Forsetter...
But Lynch has been something special these last two months… ish.
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I don't know.
I guess I’m one of those people that believes productivity on the field has more to do with a confluence of factors rather than one guy suddenly getting better out of the blue.
I’m more inclined to believe that Lynch’s improved numbers are the result of a) more carries but moreso b) continually improving play by the offensive line, which is “gelling” so to speak.
What I have been surprised by is Lynch’s receiving out of the backfield. I never would have thought of him being particularly effective in the open field, but he’s been making some very nice moves.
Leon is probably better than Forsett
I think they need to have plays just for Washington because god dammit Lynch isn’t much of a screen RB but Leon could be.
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I don't know why they haven't been effective in limited reps, but they haven't been.
I think a case can be made that it’s not because they are not effective backs. I’m reticent to say the results speak for themselves, that they have shown they’re not good. I don’t know what it is, or what the coaches think.
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by jacobstevens on Nov 29, 2011 2:11 PM PST up reply actions
Until you see it all laid out like that its easy to forget how awful the run game has been.
Can we all just agree to never speak of any of the Hawk’s runningbacks between Alexander and beast mode ever Again?
by wetzelcoal on Nov 28, 2011 11:21 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Here's some more stats to help us feel good about Beef Moe
FO’s 3rd best RB of the week by DYAR
Lynch was stuffed for no gain just once in 24 carries. He had 14 runs for 4 yards or more and three runs for 10 yards or more. He also had a 20-yard touchdown reception in the second quarter, though the other two passes thrown his way were both incomplete.
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/quick-reads/2011/week-12-quick-reads
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Nov 29, 2011 11:31 AM PST reply actions
Does DYAR adjust for offensive line play?
Curious. Don’t know much about it.
It does not.
ALY is their attempt to separate the performance of the back from the line, which is arbitrary and rigid and a very poor stat. Usually it tells you very little, frequently it’s very misleading, although in the case of Marshawn & this line it might be somewhat decently reflective. It shows good performance in power situations and in not getting stuffed, but poor performance after hitting the “second level,” suggesting the problem is not the blocking but the back.
The truth is he’s a power back who’s style of movement & engagement is all about power, though he’s got good speed for his size. So these numbers are about what you’d expect to get from him, but the line is doing probably more to limit those opportunities than he his capabilities are.
On the flip side, he undoubtedly contributes to a non-trivial degree to the power & stuff-pct situations not faring even better. Despite their ranking us 1st in power success, we could be better, and that’s both on the line and the back.
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by jacobstevens on Nov 29, 2011 2:20 PM PST up reply actions
1k yds is pretty significant to me
and I think the o-line guys might look at that and think confidence booster.
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by Corax --Nevermore-- on Nov 29, 2011 11:41 AM PST reply actions
And yet, the 'Hawks keep throwing in critical situations... =(
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Bevell: 3rd and 2? Screw your run up the middle, Jackson THROW IT DEEEEEP!!!!
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by SSreporters on Nov 29, 2011 3:42 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
With torn pec and all
HE’S A WARRIOR, A FUCKING WARRIOR DAMMI-oh, wait, it didn’t work. Quick, get Deon Butler activated for the fly I want to run!
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by Corax --Nevermore-- on Nov 29, 2011 4:28 PM PST up reply actions
Hopefully he gets a fair contract extension.
I don’t think Schneider will overpay for Marshawn. Before the season I would have said Forsett would be the best receiving RB on the team but after watching Lynch catch dump-offs and make things happen the last few weeks I’ve changed my opinion.
He will only be 26 next year, but the workload he had against Baltimore (32 carries) will run him into the ground rather quickly. The Redskins game was far more manageable (24 carries). Only a 8 carry/game difference, but over the course of a season it equals 128 carries. He should average 25 carries/game.
Lynch is worth a lot
He has been carrying the Seahawks on his back. The thing I appreciate most about him is that he doesn’t fumble the ball. That Ravens defense was brutal, grabbing and pawing for the ball all the time, and he held onto it while pounding out yardage.
I would give him a fat contract but structured with incentives. If he doesn’t get the yards he doesn’t get the pay. If we are willing to pay backup QBs 4 million a year, that would be a good starting point.
He's had fumble problems in the past.
Last year’s regular-season game against the Saints comes to mind. Hopefully he’s fixed it.
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Way to bring up the Past
This year he hasn’t had fumble problems and he has had a lot of 100 yard games.
Lynch has fumbled I think 3 times this season
But we’ve only lose one.
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Why is it relevant?
Should we just fire him now since he fumbled last year?
The guy is having a great year.
It's pretty relevant, unless you think he's just going to stop fumbling suddenly.
Maybe he has, as a result of maturity or coaching, but it’s not against the law to use past performance when evaluating a player.
by djafrot on Nov 29, 2011 5:10 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
There was that RB with a fumble problem that used to play for the Seahawks.
Holmgren got rid of him quick.
He's fumbled three times this year.
It hasn’t been a problem but it’s not like you can say he’s completely cured.
I would like to have Lynch back next year for sure.
Never down on the first hit. I love that. May the beast live long as a Seahawk.
Great work Mr. Beastmode!!!
I remember the dark days of the early 90s. A man called “Tez” . He said “They will respect me win or lose”. I see Marshawn play with that same attitude.
What I like about Marshawn is (from what I've seen,) his attitude
The times or games when the running game isn’t working, he just gets up and goes at it again. Haven’t seen/heard about him bitching or complaining.
He never gives up on plays, it’s gonna take a few guys to get him down or out of bounds.
A true beast. Plenty of fire and swagger to his game. I love it and I think it’s big for this offense, and our offensive line especially.
It might have been the original poster or a comment, but having this rusher behind a younger/growing line can bring a lot of confidence, seeing the success they are creating for Marshawn.
I’m all for resigning Lynch. He’s still young. Still bringing it. Give his line more time to develop and a solid #2 RB to compliment him, and he will last longer as well.
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Agreed.
He is still young, and we could ideally get 4 more years out of him. It might be shorter due to his unwillingness to go down or out of bounds. If we could get a secondary rb that could demand a few more carries (as much as I like Force), Lynch would last longer.
by Neonjerseysplease on Nov 29, 2011 7:10 PM PST up reply actions
BEAST MODE!!!!!!
Nuf said. Resign him as he is the heart of the team and my favorite player to boot.
by SpellStitchedHawk on Nov 29, 2011 7:43 PM PST reply actions
Re-sign. Re-sign. RE-SIGN. RE-SIGN!!!!!!
Come on people stop saying “resign”. It is not the same thing as “re-sign”. It’s a huge pet peeve of mine.
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by SSreporters on Nov 29, 2011 8:04 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
I wish
TJ would resign.
Talent I’d most like to have: Mackin’. Straight mackin’. No, I’d like to have the talent of a magician, so I could hypnotize all of the ladies! - Marshawn Lynch
by AKHawk on Nov 29, 2011 9:56 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
honestly we are playing like a young, inexperienced team
one week we do great in one aspect of the game and fail at other
this week we did wonderful job with special teams and running the ball
but passing wise and total defense it was attrocious
like carol said im just waiting for this young team to do everything right and play with some consistency we can’t finger point at one player this game. our defense was probably the biggest disappointment this game
Are you in the right thread?
Also, who is Carol?
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by SSreporters on Nov 29, 2011 9:41 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Leave him alone. He's on mobile.
Oh….well then
by GasolineSnuggie on Nov 30, 2011 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
13-16 for 190 is attrocious?
I remember Hasslebeck having several of these types of games in 2005. Also when you get 174 on the ground, you don’t need a lot in the passing game.
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