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Richard Sherman Loves the Go Route

Awww hell.

What, Richard Sherman again? But Danny Kelly already dug deep into his play on his game ball of the week writeup. Well yeah, but does that mean there isn't more to talk about? In the immortal words of senator Clay Davis: sheeeeeeeeeeeeeit. Of course there is.

Richard Sherman was my favorite of the many DB additions we made this off-season. That's not saying too much since I didn't really love any of the DB additions we made and was (and am) mostly excited about our 2010 draft picks in the secondary developing, but Sherman stood out to me. I never figured out what Legree's role with us was supposed to be (though I wouldn't have predicted him being kicked to the curb and getting no interest from anyone in the league) and when scouting Byron Maxwell I found him to be noticeably stiffer in movement than Sherman.

So. If anyone was to start from our young additions, I'm glad it is Sherman. That still doesn't exactly make me ecstatic to see him as our starting CB2, and I would walk 500 miles (and 500 more) to see an elite cornerback in a Seahawks uniform. Johnathan Joseph dammit. Ahem. Sorry.

I'm not trying to take away the Prestigious Field Gulls Game Ball from Sherman. Considering he was a fifth round rookie in his first NFL start, there's not much else to say about a performance than "that's pretty good", with an interception, an interception caused and two more passes defended.

But there's a few footnotes that are crying out for attention. For one, it's hard to miss that when Sherman stood out in the preseason, it was in running tight coverage on go routes, and here he is making two big plays running tight coverage on go routes. In fact, my first note on A.J. Green was, "this guy runs a lot of go routes". The go route is an ideal route to cover for someone of Sherman's athleticism and ball-tracking skills. The fact that he was on Green most of the day (Sherman played offensive right corner) means he was rarely asked to cover more complex routes. Which in turn kind of explains his criticism of Green.

And because I enjoy linking to myself to an indescribable extent, I'll reiterate this defense is currently optimized to beat teams of Cincinnati's mold. These run-to-setup-pass, take-what's-given passing offenses with clearly limited quarterbacks are candy to our defensive players, and while losing our two best corners (by my estimation) certainly hobbles the defense, it doesn't  change what the defense is good at doing.

In other words, this was kind of a perfect storm for Richard Sherman and our defense. Next week, playing Dez Bryant, Miles Austin and Jason Witten is the opposite of the perfect storm. It might be an F5 tornado. {beat} Good Frith, not an F5. Quick, Bill Paxton, save us with your blandness.

Some game notes after the break.

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In the first Bengals drive, Sherman got two and a half tackles, but wasn't actually targeted a single time, rather coming down from his assignment to make the tackle each time. During the game (and in the recap) I noted Sherman was being targeted a lot, but that was a misread. The Bengals threw to the right a lot, but rarely at the receiver covered by Sherman.

1-10-SEA 14 (3:52) A.Dalton pass short middle to J.Simpson for 14 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

This was actually the first time Sherman was targeted all game. On this one Danny noted "it looked like he probably should have had help over the middle from Earl Thomas". Well. Yes. Sort of. But not really. This one is dead right from the snap:

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Richard Sherman allows Jerome Simpson a free release. Earl Thomas and Kam Chancellor had the deep halves but Earl Thomas sneaks up to cover the Bengals fullback Chris Pressley (there is no slot receiver on this play) who is releasing for an outlet option. But the real problem is K.J. Wright, and possibly David Hawthorne. Wright bites really hard on the play-action, and then flails around trying to recover when he realizes he messed up.

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Too late, Dalton is already in his windup. He can already be in his windup because Simpson had a free release, and that allows this play to develop much more quickly than it should. With no under help at all, nothing stops Simpson from making the catch right on the goalline. At that point, I don't see much beyond blatant pass interference that Sherman could have done about it, but the biggest factor in this play is Simpson's free, unhindered route.

1-10-CIN 14 (14:51) A.Dalton pass incomplete short left. Play is not reviewable.

Point 1: Screw you gamebook for noting "play is not reviewable". You guys are total Beenies.
Point 2: This is Dalton's backward-pass-that-was-a-forward-pass. Prior to the snap Green motions from right to left, and this play is designed as a quick outlet pass to Green with several linemen releasing to block for him.

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Even if Dalton didn't fumble the ball, it wouldn't have mattered as Sherman was all over Dalton all through the pre-snap and post-snap process.

1-30-CIN 49 (9:38) A.Dalton pass short right to A.Green to SEA 42 for 9 yards.

Let me just note here I was really frustrated with the broadcasting direction during this game. Pre-snap, both WRs are lined up left, with Sherman on Green in the slot. After rolling out right, Dalton throws a 9 yard completion to Green, who is on top of the right sideline, with Sherman about four or five yards in front of him. I would love to know what happened in between. But I don't.

2-6-CIN 35 (3:18) A.Dalton pass incomplete deep right to A.Green.

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Not a big fan of this one. The coverage is tight, but Sherman never turns his head throughout the play, even when Green is clearly setting up for the catch. There wasn't a catch, because the throw was horrible, but Sherman didn't know that, because he never looked for the ball. Jenningsesque.

1-15-SEA 43 (2:00) A.Dalton pass deep middle to A.Green for 43 yards, TOUCHDOWN.

See ball. See A.J. Green. See A.J. Green catch ball. Run, Green, run. And Earl Thomas is right behind him! So let's blame Earl Thomas for the touchdown.

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I hate this play by sheer dint of us being in zone (the corner stance is a tell, if you're wondering), and I hate it when we're in zone. Because we're not good at it. I hate it even more when the opposing team lines up two receivers on one cornerback, in this case Sherman. Sherman, as far as I can tell, covers Simpson. Browner doesn't cover anyone, he ineffectually runs after Green, in the slot.

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Earl Thomas bites on the little stutter-step here, and that allows Green to get behind him. It's not a pure speed thing, though I'm impressed by Green's speed otherwise, it is in fact mostly a mistake by Earl Thomas. The pass is a pretty one too, right in the basket. I don't like anything about this play. Not a thing. Best we can tell Earl Thomas is to blame because CBS again decided to show no useful camera angle, so I can't really tell what anyone else is doing, particularly Kam Chancellor.

2-4-SEA 43 (5:25) A.Dalton pass incomplete deep right to A.Green [R.Brock].

Sherman is playing with a five yard cushion here, and no one has the underneath on Green. Sherman then positions himself in the wrong place to intercept the ball and also the wrong place to try and break up a catch if the pass was actually good.

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The ball is placed badly because Raheem Brock is about to smack into Andy Dalton. Dalton's pocket presence and feet impressed me, but the pass rush was starting to get to him in the second half, leading to more errant throws. Good to see.

3-7-CIN 26 (14:22) (Shotgun) A.Dalton pass short right to A.Caldwell to CIN 35 for 9 yards (R.Sherman). P14

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This one's not highlighted due to Sherman, but because it was an interesting play. I call this our "hah, in your face!" formation. Seahawks are in nickel, with the linebackers and Earl Thomas on the line. Right before the snap, David Hawthorne motions out to the offensive right. Snap. The nickelbacker, Roy Lewis, flies at the quarterback unblocked while David Hawthorne drops back to cover his guy, Andre Caldwell. Love the play, but it is sadly the Hawthorne-on-Caldwell matchup where it falls apart, as Hawthorne loses Caldwell on a simple comeback route and Dalton gets the easy and quick completion for the first.

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This post should have been titled "Bucket of cold water, meet excited Seahawks fans."

You’re a bad, bad man Thomas Beekers.

I’m now worried about the Dallas game. I really hope our pass rushers can consistently pressure Romo. If they can’t, we’re pretty much hosed.

Always up for some Twitter action @nandron. I only talk NW sports, though.

by Nick Andron on Nov 3, 2011 8:22 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Full disclosure should have me note I kind of like Tony Romo as a player, taken without context

I still laughed heartily at the fumble, but I enjoy watching him play and personally believe he’s a very good if uneven quarterback, though he benefits immensely from that incredibly overstocked offense. The Eagles did really well but I think that’s partially what their defense is focused on, stopping the Bwoys, and much like Jax’ performance against the Ravens I don’t think it should necessarily make us hopeful.

Speaking of which, I’m not sure how well you can disrupt Dez Bryant, or that we have an answer for Jason Witten, not to mention Miles Austin. And both Murray and Felix Jones are exactly the kind of RBs who – while failing to get consistent yardage against us – can make the defense pay for a single missed gap assignment.

So yeah. I’m worried too. Here’s to hoping I’m wrong about our defense, but this will be the first serious, non-run/dink&dunk since the bye week, it’s a different ballgame from the Browns and Bengals.

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by Thomas Beekers on Nov 3, 2011 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Or, in other words, I'm agreeing with you

Getting to Romo is the only way for us to seriously slow down that offense

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by Thomas Beekers on Nov 3, 2011 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is a nice little tidbit...
I hate this play by sheer dint of us being in zone (the corner stance is a tell, if you’re wondering)

I was in fact wondering. That’s a nice little thing to know.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Nov 3, 2011 10:42 AM PDT reply actions  

Yuh-huh

NFL defenses are really good at disguising man or zone, to the point where it confuses opposing quarterbacks, let alone TV viewers. One of the reasons pre-snap motion is so important is to reveal the defense being in man or zone, as in “does someone follow the receiver that had gone in motion”.

In this case it’s kind of easy because we know that in man Browner would be on Green in our normal base man package. But the stance is a key tell in general, as a rule if cornerbacks line up shoulders horizontal looking straight at the cornerback, they’re in man, while if they’re slanted and looking at the quarterback (like Sherman is) it’s zone. Very simple, so it’s not always true, but it’s a key tell.

I really don’t like this team in zone.

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by Thomas Beekers on Nov 3, 2011 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

...too negative? What's with the low amount of comments?

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by Thomas Beekers on Nov 3, 2011 12:40 PM PDT reply actions  

Nope, kinda always been this way

I remember when JM used to do some long detailed play or player analyses and get about two responses. Then there’d be a thousand on how average Julius Jones was. So I don’t know what to make of it. I’ve always preferred this stuff but I may be in the minority.

by B.B.Finnegan on Nov 3, 2011 3:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah I suppose that's true

I feed on feedback though, including disagreements, it’s what keeps me improving and motivated to write more. I hope my meticulousness in replying to repliers doesn’t keep people off. Keep replying people! Hell I even caved to including screencaps for you lot of peasantsnice people.

But the reality is some stories are more inviting than others because they open up for more discussion. Corner play on specific routes just isn’t the kind of thing that’s fun to chat about.

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by Thomas Beekers on Nov 3, 2011 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I also think the more in-depth you get the harder it is to disagree

Or to critique. I have fun reading these, but at the same time have a hard time commenting. Essentially, I would have to have looked at each play near the same level of detail as you (which i just don’t have time for) in order for me to throw in my own observations on Sherman’s performance. I haven’t even seen the game a second time, and I think that’s most people, so the tendency is to just take what you’ve seen and believe you, for better or worse.

by B.B.Finnegan on Nov 3, 2011 4:35 PM PDT up reply actions   2 recs

Agreed with Mr. Finnegan.

The lack of comments doesn’t mean it wasn’t a good or well thought out piece.

Eternally looking forward to someone making a Seahawks song based off of Lil' Jon's "Shots" song named "Hawks!"

by Bobby Cink on Nov 3, 2011 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

I find this kind of thing absolutely fascinating

X’s and O’s get me excited like nothing else in football, especially corner play. I have always been a big stickler for WR running good routes, as I think it’s super key in any offense being successful because of its impact on timing and awareness for the QB; so correspondingly, the way a defense responds with its corner play can be key on the other side of the ball.

by Matt Erickson on Nov 3, 2011 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

A bit surprised

In preseason, waching Sherman I thought he looked tall, stiff and had a really slow backpedal. Figured that equaled a lot of “where’s my guy?” results. Honestly thought between Legree, Sherman and Maxwell, Sherman would be the last to see the field. But he seems to be with his man frequently and showed some ball skills last week. Small sample size, but I am looking forward to being proven wrong,.

by Snow Hawk on Nov 3, 2011 12:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Hey Thomas

On the Green touchdown after they get back from the break they show a great replay of it that should give you all the information you need. It was basically a replay that showed the whole field. I didn’t see Chancellor even on the field during the play. It looks like we went with 8 LB/DL and 3 DB (Browner, Sherman, Thomas). We didn’t give the Defensive Backs much of a chance on the play. I am not sure why Browner is on the defensive right side for the play. It looks like the play would have been much better defended if he was over the receiver and Thomas was helping with deep coverage. In that case he most likely wouldn’t have bit on the fake because his responsibilities would have been “deeper than the deepest”

by bigtrain21 on Nov 3, 2011 4:30 PM PDT reply actions  

its zone coverage..

So you cant move browner that far out of position, its actually the defensive left OLB who should have bumped over, if he blitzes then its the MLB/Saftey responsability to shade over, as you see Thomas is shaded, but not close enough to LoS, giving away the read that its zone as well (usually in “man” the slot is tight covered and the outside gets cushion) this is usually the case because in the modern NFL the slot runs a lot of crossing/slant/drag routes, countered with corner/out patterns.

by Oliudyen on Nov 4, 2011 1:01 AM PDT up reply actions  

They did? Maaaaan I must have missed on that one

Are you sure Chancellor isn’t in the box? Possible I guess.

But man that’s a messy formation. As mentioned in the story/comments, Browner is on the right because he is covering that zone. I know, it sounds insane but that’s the best explanation I have. It is a zone play, in man there’s no way Browner wouldn’t be right opposite Green.

So yeah, it’s not a conclusion I wanted to make based on limited evidence, but it looks like we made completely the wrong playcall, and while Thomas does make a mistake when one-on-one with Green this one looks like it’s on the DC.

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by Thomas Beekers on Nov 3, 2011 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I hate that alignment as well

It seems to me with that alignment you put the safety and the CB in single coverage. I can’t see the Seahawks wanting that at all. To me it would have been better to either have Browner over Green or have KJ Wright who was on the left edge destroy Green right at the line and then take care of whatever his responsibilities were on that play. That would have made a deep route take longer to develop. None of that happened and we were left with a really bad matchup.

The more I think about it this had to be some sort of screwup in coverage. I can’t imagine why we would want a defensive back in that zone for that alignment. Just have one of the linebackers take care of it if the TE goes out for a pass.

by bigtrain21 on Nov 3, 2011 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Formation-wise this is selling out to stop the run, which makes some sense on 1st & 15

Even shuffling Browner out of his zone and into man doesn’t change that. The Bengals took what was given to them.

Did Dalton audible? I should go back to check.

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by Thomas Beekers on Nov 3, 2011 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I'm a QB looking at this formation

I’m going to audible to a post to Green mano-a-mano with ET all day and all night. It’s like a closer in the 9th inning against a star power hitter. I’m gonna throw my best pitch right at you and force you to beat me with your best man.

by Matt Erickson on Nov 3, 2011 5:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

Exactly

At that point, unless someone majorly screws up on execution, the minimum you get is first down since Earl is almost at the 1st marker (at the 28) and the best you get…is what they got.

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by Thomas Beekers on Nov 3, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder who, on defense, has the authority to change the call?

Teams often move players around, use unbalanced formations, to see if the defense is playing zone or man. It seems like in something like this, someone on the defense (Hawthorne maybe?) has to change the call, not the DC. Or can the DC shout at them to change?

by B.B.Finnegan on Nov 3, 2011 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

One defensive player has a helmet headset, since a few years

As in only one defensive player with a headset can be on the field at any one time. This is usually the MLB, yes.

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by Thomas Beekers on Nov 3, 2011 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yip

Checking the play again, looks like it’s KJ Wright to the left of the DL (drops back) and Leroy Hill to the right (blitzes) with Hawthorne in the middle at the 38 and Kam Chancellor on his right shoulder.

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by Thomas Beekers on Nov 3, 2011 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh yeah, duh, forgot about the headset thing

Seems like Bradley’s has to recognize the mismatch there. Also seems like teams should have built in fixes for just such a scenario, since you’d think it’s pretty common.

Do you know if Cincinnati motioned into that formation or if they started lined up that way?

by B.B.Finnegan on Nov 3, 2011 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is at the the two-minute warning, note

It’s first 1st and 10, Bengals line up four wide with Seahawks in man and a a single high safety, Andre Smith jumps for a false start penalty.

1st and 15, 2:00, huddle, they line up completely different, two backs, tight end, two WRs right, that’s how they start, they didn’t motion. Kam and Earl initially are at the 28 but Kam walks up right next to the ref, presumably reading run (not that odd in that formation). Hawthorne notes him run up and then looks back down to Dalton. Dalton doesn’t audible. Hill blitzes from the TE side so the TE is occupied, while Wright drops back but he’s covering the flats together with Hawthorne (there’s no Bengals receiver even near them, though one back does kind of half-heartedly release into the flats, but he runs into his own lineman), not Green, and Browner runs back to the middle immediately so it’s not even like he’s in run support. I don’t know why he didn’t follow Green, other than “it’s a stupid zone play”.

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by Thomas Beekers on Nov 3, 2011 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the most encouraging thing to

Take from Sherman’s performance is that he just looked the part. He is really green but for a 5th rounder, I’ll take that over our 1st round Jennings any day. Thank you for the play recaps Thomas, and yes we appreciate the pictures.

by Savage Seahawk fan on Nov 3, 2011 4:36 PM PDT via iPhone app reply actions   1 recs

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