Assessing the Awfense
You know what's pretty good? The Seahawk's defense. You know what isn't? Beets. Also, the Seahawks offense. I don't think it's a lost cause, however, and by this time next year, it could be a strength (a big could, I'll concede). Still, here's my three-step plan (I'm guesstimating) to solving our offensive woes:
Step One: Cut a Hole in the Box
There are a couple of big holes on this offense. The play-calling by Darrell Bevell has been lacking, in my opinion, but it's understandable. You want to be a "run-first" team, so what do you do? Well, first, you run. Second, you fall behind because you can't run. Third, you pass. Fourth, you still lose because your quarterback is average and your line is not yet performing. Fifth, you run a draw on 3rd and 16 that nets you 8 yards so you can feel a little better about the rushing statistics if nothing else. Sixth, you lose.
My radical approach? Fire Darrell Bevell and elevate Tom Cable to OC.
Now look, I am strongly anti-fire-coach-just-because-it-feels-right. The issue, in my mind, is not that we need a new offensive coordinator, but that we need one offensive coordinator, not two. As it stands, Bevell is the "passing coordinator" and Cable is the "running coordinator." Yes, Bevell helped us land Sidney Rice, but has he been used in any amazing fancy-pants, Bevell-only packages? Not that I've seen. He's a freak athlete, and a talented WR. Bevell is not integral to his success. Moreover, Bevell came here with a less-than-stellar reputation as Brad Childress' stage manager (get because Childress looks like a creepy ass high school drama teacher?!). On the other hand, Tom Cable has rounded out our line (Carpenter, Moffitt, Gallery), has brought a bit of nastiness to that unit, and should have his pick of our next running back (more on that shortly).
Step Two: Shake iPhone to Shuffle
This is a talented team, even offensively. Look at the top tier players: Sidney Rice, Zach Miller, Russell Okung, Leon Washington. Okay, so, four players does not a franchise make, but it's a great start. Unfortunately, I think the team is in need of a shuffle. How would I change it?
For one, Marshawn Lynch should not be the lead back for this offense. I like Lynch a lot, and in fact, he is playing better than his stats would indicate. That doesn't change the fact that he does a lot of dancing behind the line (often the line's fault, but not always), or the fact that he lacks pure breakaway speed, or the fact that is not an above average back unless the stars align just right. So let's make Lynch the number two back, the third-and-short / goal line bruising back who will come in and get 5 to 15 carries depending on the game and situation. Promote Leon Washington to the starting back role. Sure, he's a lil' feller, but that's not a bad thing in today's NFL. His elusiveness, speed, and ability to catch out of the backfield make him a bigger overall threat than Lynch. He also seems to be a better zone running back than Lynch. Give Washington 10-15 carries a game, Lynch 5-15, Forsett 3-10. Next year, let Lynch and likely J-Force hit the market and upgrade the position.
But who will return kicks? Okay, fair question. Obviously, Leon Washington could still return kicks from time to time -- in crucial, need-a-big-play situations, a la Ed Reed or others. But how about that 2nd round nerdface who is getting paid to perform and is sitting on the bench while an undrafted free agent takes his offensive snaps? Yep, Golden Tate. Will he fumble? Every once in awhile, probably. But that's part of special teams. You throw a freaky guy back there and if they can make a play, burst with speed, and score a touchdown from time to time, you're a-okay. He has more value back there than he does as a receiver, and Washington, in my opinion, has more in the backfield than he does as an every-chance returner.
Next, how about those Wide Receivers? My starters: Sidney Rice and Ben Obomanu. Doug Baldwin is the regular slot guy, with Mike Williams on the field very often as a possession receivers / red zone threat. I'm talking 50% of the snaps. With his lack of speed, and Jackson's lack of trust, Williams has not been a factor this year. Period. Ben Obomanu has shown with every opportunity he has had just the kind of reliable target he can be. He has the speed to get open, the hands to catch, and the durability and toughness to take a bad hit and spring right back up. Mike Williams is a great weapon, but use him as a weapon, not as the whole artillery.
As for the tight ends, my long-standing mancrush on Zach Miller isn't going away. He's had a rough go early on, but I'm not too worried about that. He had to stay to block -- a LOT -- early on in the season. He still needs to find his "catching place," and needs a quarterback who isn't constantly throwing him into hits, which both Jackson and Whitehurst have done this year. So, Miller stays, and we just keep our fingers crossed that he survives. Anthony McCoy has been an unmitigated disaster this season after a strong pre-season. Where are these drops coming from? He's not a great blocker, not a great pass-catcher, so he's not long for this team. Cameron Morrah has looked good, and, while more well-rounded than McCoy, he's more of a pass-catcher than blocker. Keep developing him, and bring in a better blocking tight end next year to keep things awesome. Tadaaaa.
Step Three: Keep Calm and Carry On. Psyche!
Then, there is, of course, the Quarterback. I think Tarvaris Jackson is fine for now, but is clearly not the "quarterback of the future," despite what a tweet I saw this morning alleging to be paraphrasing Pete Carroll seemed to indicate [breath]. Let's be clear: The Seahawks do NOT have a choice but to draft their quarterback early next year. Carroll has no choice but to do so. Schneider has no choice but to do so. Paul Allen is not paying Carroll a gazillion pennies a year to find the best backup quarterback in the league. They need a real, live, top-ten-in-the-NFL quarterback (or someone who looks likely enough to get there), and the time to be picky is gone. This is not news to anyone, so I'll leave it at that. If PCJS fail to grab a QB in the first round (or top of second) next year, rest assured another 7-9 or worse season will not be tolerated. Time to push all-in, panic, and mortgage the future to get a QB...because if they don't, they won't be a part of that future in Seattle.
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So because the run game stinks fire the guy responsible for our pass game?
Tom Cable’s doing as well as Valero, Gibbs, Solari, and whomever we had before that, which is to say, jack squat.
My point is more
to end the two OC situation. I don’t like splitting it up, and after seeing Bevell last year in MN and Cable as HC last year at Oakland, I personally prefer the Cable approach.
What I neglected to flesh out is that a big reason why I want to keep one around is because I don’t want to be San Francisco. I want continuity, and yes, I would take Bevell and Cable over neither for another three years. I think it takes time to calibrate, especially with no offseason.
by Chris Sully on Nov 3, 2011 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah, still don't agree with that.
Since the only time the offense seems to do anything is when they start throwing it. Only then does the run begin to open up. So if anyone is getting fired (and I vote for no one being fired) let’s have it be the person coaching the less successful half of our offense.
GET OFF ME!!!
The problem is you're just guess the pecking order and who has control over what and whether or not they work well together
Maybe they work better as a team and they’re two soul-mated halves that complete each other, then what’s tearing them apart going to achieve? Then again, maybe they hate each other and stick gum on each other’s seats during meetings. Maybe they’re ninjas separated at birth, maybe lots of things, which is the problem with your point, it’s just too much of a conclusion based on nothing but a guess.
by B.B.Finnegan on Nov 3, 2011 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This isn't the first time I've heard about a passing coordinator and a run game coordinator.
I don’t think it’s a novel or ineffective approach.
Head of catering.
Yeah, this is what I've heard from a few people too.
Do we know which teams are doing this right now? Just curious – might be worth exploring.
I would have mentioned it if I could remember.
Had to search around to see Jason Garrett has given that title to his brother, the McDaniels Broncos and Cable Raiders split the coordination, too.
None of those are the ones I remember. Someone who was a bigger name, a bigger market, but I just can’t recall.
Head of catering.
by jacobstevens on Nov 4, 2011 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions
You have shitty taste.
Roasted beets are delicious =)
Always up for some Twitter action @nandron. I only talk NW sports, though.
by Nick Andron on Nov 3, 2011 2:24 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
They're just a grown-up flavor
like coffee or beer.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Nov 3, 2011 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I love beets too. And I'm not ready to promote Cable.
Otherwise, I’m in agreement with your post. Yes, more Leon, etc.
I wonder if there’s any chance we can resign John Carson. Cuz I’m ready to.
by broadbill birdwatcher on Nov 3, 2011 2:28 PM PDT reply actions
P.S. Great article. I totally agree.
They will draft a QB. Don’t worry.
The fact both Pete and John said last week they chose Carpenter over Dalton means they were looking at QBs and nearly drafted one.
They’ve “finished” building their o-line (paraphrasing Pete, here), so there’s no excuse for the 2012 draft.
Always up for some Twitter action @nandron. I only talk NW sports, though.
I think you make some great points about the roster
But I have to disagree on the notion that we should get rid of Bevell. Year 3 of the rebuild is widely acknowledged as the time that we should start seeing more positive results, and shifting to a 3rd OC in as many years will hamper that.
Agreed, but it is an interesting thought.
Have to wonder if the Assistant Head Coach/Offensive Line Coach/Run Game Coordinator role is way too vague or overlapping. I wonder if there is any tension or trouble there. I wonder who is even calling the plays sometimes.
You can wonder if Bevell's head is filled with peanut butter, and Cable's is filled with jelly
But we don’t need an article about it. Ok, maybe we do, that might be funny.
I just don’t see the point to this haphazard guesswork unless there are some facts circulating that the two aren’t getting along, something to base it off of. The main fact here is that the run game stinks and has stunk all the way back since Shaun Alexander’s injury in 2006. I don’t know how that can be blamed on Bevell and Cable sharing official titles. I don’t mean to make that a strawman, since that’s not what Chris is saying, but our running game problem seems like a much deeper issue. In 2008 we switched to zone blocking correct? Maybe it’s zone blocking itself that just isn’t any good of a scheme any more. Or maybe we just need Darren McFadden.
by B.B.Finnegan on Nov 3, 2011 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Leon Washington = Darren McFadden a lot more than Marshawn Lynch = Darren McFadden
Honestly, I don’t see anything in Darrell Bevell’s past that makes me hopeful for the future. The only recent times he’s had a semi-respectable offense was under a offensive-minded head coach who meddled in most of the playcalls, while relying on the talent of one of the best QBs and best RBs ever, with a top-10 offensive line.
On the other hand, Cable does have a history (though limited) of taking a putrid offense and making it respectable, primarily because of a phenomenal running game. Again, this was with a terrific star running back (I’m seeing a pattern: teams with great running games have star running backs…hmm), and a lot of people yell and shout that the Raiders offensive success has been mis-attributed to Cable, and was actually because of Hue Jackson.
Not sure where people are getting that idea though. Yeah, Oakland’s offense is pretty decent this year, but Al Saunders is their offensive coordinator—you know, the guy who coached the 2002-2005 Chiefs? They were a decent offense, if I recall. /sarcasm
by Matt Erickson on Nov 3, 2011 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions
But what if Tarvaris keeps getting better and better, and
Josh Portis improves behind the scenes in dramatic leaps and bounds,
and, come April, we can’t trade up for love, luck or money?
by broadbill birdwatcher on Nov 3, 2011 2:34 PM PDT reply actions
RANDALL CUNNINGHAM REINCARNATED!
Wait – he’s not dead yet, right?
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by Corax --Nevermore-- on Nov 3, 2011 3:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Once you said what step one was
I thought you were referencing this.
by KoolAidMan1 on Nov 3, 2011 2:48 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
In the last 4 games, the offense has been pretty effective under TJ
We started really poorly but it seems clear to be that Bevell (and his no-huddle offense) is one of the least problematic parts.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Nov 3, 2011 3:01 PM PDT reply actions
No huddle offense
This is actually part of my issue with Bevell. For success to be sustained, it needs to come at the hands of a simplified offense that relies heavily on the QB than the OC. Yes, they are his plays that are installed in the package, but he’s giving TJack the keys to the car, and thats when we’ve been closest to offensive success.
I freely admit that I could be wrong about that, but that is my basic understanding of the situation.
by Chris Sully on Nov 3, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Here's TJ saying that he calls most of the plays in the hurry-up
(which has been more effective than the traditional offense):
Jackson said during the no-huddle offense that he calls 60 to 80 percent of the plays, depending on how the offense is moving the ball and how much of a rhythm the offense is in.
"If coach (OC Darrell Bevell) sees something he’ll chime in and try to give me a play early," Jackson said. "But once he catches us in a rhythm already and he sees us calling a play, he kind of lets us go."
http://blog.thenewstribune.com/seahawks/2011/11/03/jackson-hands-out-f-for-his-play-so-far
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Nov 4, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Whatever it is
it’s definitely more than I was expecting when we first signed him.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Nov 4, 2011 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn't be opposite to shedding some of the assistant/coordinating coaching staff, there's a few names I have little faith in
But timing-wise I wouldn’t do it now.
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Yes
I agree, now is not the time. I realize that the article is a little muddled by a lack of assigning time to that portion, but doing so to, uh, everything else. Whoops.
Heh, sounds like this article needed a bit more iteration
I always like to leave articles simmer in my brain for a bit.
Speaking of: write. more. It’s very welcome.
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by Thomas Beekers on Nov 3, 2011 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Are you sure they don't...bake in your head?
Simmering seems too simmery. Maybe they broil in your head? Or saute. Perhaps stewing?
Heresy grows from idleness.
by Corax --Nevermore-- on Nov 3, 2011 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions
No, they simmer and stew
That’s why I’m so angry all the time
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by Thomas Beekers on Nov 3, 2011 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
The team is young, and I'd err on the side of coaching continuity.
Short of any glaring issues that the team hasn’t been able to resolve by the end of the season, I don’t see a need to shake up the coaching staff again. Sometimes continuity in of itself is valuable.
Truth
You know what isn’t? Beets
Rest assured, you will make it into my will.
Heresy grows from idleness.
by Corax --Nevermore-- on Nov 3, 2011 3:37 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
What else do you hate?
I need money.
by Matt Erickson on Nov 3, 2011 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Beets !
This reminded me of the office episode where Jim comes to work dressed ( and acting ) like Dwight. If you havent seen it, watch it here Office
Jim: “Fact: Bears eat beets. Bears beats Battlestar Gallactica”
PS Beets suck…But I love coffee and beer.
Beets are deadly serious
“The beet is the most intense of vegetables. The radish, admittedly, is more feverish, but the fire of the radish is a cold fire, the fire of discontent, not of passion. Tomatoes are lusty enough, yet there runs through tomatoes an undercurrent of frivolity. Beets are deadly serious.”-Tom Robbins,
And another quote
“Beets suck.” me
Heresy grows from idleness.
by Corax --Nevermore-- on Nov 3, 2011 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, I'd like to see Leon used like Sproles in Nawlins.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
by hazbro24 on Nov 3, 2011 4:02 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Drafting a QB in the first round
Would probably help the 2013 season, NOT the 2012
If I was a betting man (and I am!) I would be that we see T-Jack starting the opener next year.
except that PC's MO has been to draft his first rounders to start right away...
…witness Okung, Thomas, Carpenter.
If the Seahawks draft a star QB next year (fingers crossed) I expect that he will be named the starter and play immediately.
The era of sitting an Aaron Rodgers behind a Brett Favre are over.
About the 2011 Seahawks: "And if I laugh at any mortal thing, tis that I may not weep." Byron
I'm surprised by how many people want Washington to get more carries.
Before the Cleveland game, all I heard was that Cleveland had a good defense but you could run all day on them. Maybe when they realized Lynch was hurt, Cleveland players were so terrified at the thought of 30 carries by Leon Washington that they became an adrenaline fueled, vampire defense. I don’t know but Washington sure got a bunch of nothing in that game.
Washington is getting a bit too much of spotlight due to being underused
But I do think he’s our best runner. Which shouldn’t equate getting the most touches, because that’s a situational thing, but it should equate getting more touches.
Washington did underwhelm versus the Browns, but I’m not sure where you got the “run all day on them” from. They’re ranked 9th by defensive DVOA against the run, 17th against the pass, and I don’t think the game against us skews that much. From what I’ve seen of them, they have a very active, penetrating front four and one of the most underrated LBs in the league in D’Qwell shooting open gaps where needed. Not an easy D to run against, especially in a situation where they don’t respect your quarterback.
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by Thomas Beekers on Nov 3, 2011 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions
39 yards on only 7 carries doesn't strike me as "underwhelming".
by Matt Erickson on Nov 3, 2011 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions
He was our best offensive performer
And he got steady yardage, but he never looked one cut away from bringing it home. This is subjective though, especially if I don’t go back to refresh myself on the game.
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by Thomas Beekers on Nov 3, 2011 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Really Step 2 should have been: Put That Junk In That Box.
Step 3: Then You Open That Open That Box.
Then you have the Dick In the Box style Offence! Always offensive and surprising to many defences.
Otherwise great article Chris.
Don't be an idiot. If an idiot would do that, then don't do it. Muahahahaaha back on twitter
by RagingAlot on Nov 3, 2011 5:06 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
"Mess with the *electric* bill and no beets for TWO months."
Anyone?
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
HA!
Bring on the Beet jokes, everyone!
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by Corax --Nevermore-- on Nov 3, 2011 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions
"Bloom County" was the answer we were looking for there!
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
Yeah...didn't see that as a real question....
You know, I had to wiki that. Never heard of Bloom County.
Heresy grows from idleness.
by Corax --Nevermore-- on Nov 3, 2011 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions
Wait until I fire up that 80s thread.
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
Aaaaaa Eeeeeee Ooooooh...
Kill-er To-fu…..
"That's funny. I post here all the time and I never see (you) here."
- GreatGoogly, to John Morgan
"John Morgan IS Field Gulls, asshole!"
I'm tired of OCs who use the run to set up the pass
Bevell seems like Greg Knapp without using the fullback or retarded 10 yard trick plays.
I respect your opinion even though it's wrong.
One for Mattlock
Seems like Bevell’s ‘beeting’ the hell out of the run game.
Heresy grows from idleness.
by Corax --Nevermore-- on Nov 3, 2011 7:12 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I always show up when someone 'Bates' me
by Matt Erickson on Nov 3, 2011 8:33 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
ok yeah, that was trying waaaaaayyy too hard.
I’ll be over here with my nose in the corner.
by Matt Erickson on Nov 3, 2011 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn't worry about it
a few more beets for breakfast, and you’ll be in tip top shape
Heresy grows from idleness.
by Corax --Nevermore-- on Nov 3, 2011 8:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Latin name for 'beet'?
“Beta vulgaris”. Hmm, so a first shot at a dirty joke. These things are growing on me.
by Matt Erickson on Nov 3, 2011 8:45 PM PDT up reply actions
There's a vagina in there somewhere...
Heresy grows from idleness.
by Corax --Nevermore-- on Nov 3, 2011 10:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Polk is pure beast
Heresy grows from idleness.
by Corax --Nevermore-- on Nov 3, 2011 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Ideally....
1.8 – RGIII (maybe even if Barkley is still there)
2.8 – Polk
3.8 – DE/DL
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So high for RGIII?
Better to trade down and get him.
We could see a run on QBs early
Also, its not hard to see some draft stock parallels between Griffin and Locker, who went #8 this year:
-High character / no ego
-Terrific Athlete
-Improving player
-Took a struggling football program and made it relevant again
-4th year QB (Locker was 5th year)
-Was not expected to go super-high but did anyway (Griffin at least appears to be on that trajectory right now).
As prospects, there are notable differences between the two, but in terms of the things that shape draft stock, their situations are pretty similar. A lot of people are already dubbing Griffin a 1st rounder and in all honesty I think they will be right next April.
by Kip Earlywine on Nov 4, 2011 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions
I think there is enough talent there, that I wouldn't feel safe trading down and still getting him.
Yeesh, I just hate to imagine the fall out if they did trade down, and he went early, and we were stuck with Jones or Tannenhill, who then end up not playing in the same tier as RGIII
Kinda like fantasy sports, if you have “your sleeper” targeted for a certain round, get them sooner rather than later, because someone else probably is thinking the same thing.
….also, I want to see another III on our team.
by Dizzy Saturn on Nov 4, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions
I've seen other teams have success with a wr taking snaps and running it
…maybe this could suit tate’s abilities.
I think he may have been a rb before but don’t quote me
Our offensive line will get him killed
Heresy grows from idleness.
by Corax --Nevermore-- on Nov 3, 2011 8:42 PM PDT up reply actions
One thing about the build the team around TJax
People must’ve forgotten Pete saying what he did about Stacy Andrews/
I feel culturally offended by the intolerance for beets shown in this thread
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by Thomas Beekers on Nov 5, 2011 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions

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