Seahawks Beat Rams: The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Look, I realize the whole 'good, bad, and ugly' thing is tired but it really is a good way to frame the game and keep me on track. I use it as a launching point to talk about what happened and without that structure I'd probably wander off into some weird tangential stream of consciousness rambling. I don't know, maybe that would be better. I think, regardless, I just like using the posters from that movie, kind of like my short lived "Kelly's Heroes" foray.
Anyway, here we go.
The Good:
Doug Baldwin is good. He's the kind of guy you want on your team. He plays mad. Baldwin had some nice special teams plays - a blocked punt that led to a touchdown and a downed punt just outside the five yard line - to add to his seven catches for 93 yards and a touchdown. He appeared again after having a few relatively quiet games and he's now at 45 receptions for 718 yards and 3 touchdowns.
Baldwin is currently 3rd among NFL rookies with his 45 catches, and 2nd in yards (to A.J. Green, you know, the 4th overall pick?). Baldwin leads rookies in catches over 20 yards, and 35 of his 45 catches have come for first downs, or 78% or so. Truly ridiculous for an undrafted free agent. I heard Mitch Levy on the radio this morning wondering aloud if we're witness to the best performance by a rookie UDFA receiver of all time. If you guys have stats on that, let me know, because it seems plausible.
More good from the receiver corps was the play of Golden Tate. Tate and Baldwin got going in the swing-pass game and Golden took an end around for 14 yards. One thing that I perceive about Tate is that when he's playing with confidence and swagger, he's dangerous. When he's tentative and second-guessing himself, he's rough. Putting together the last few games I see Tate getting back to that confidence level that got him the Biletnikoff award at Notre Dame. He's the kind of guy that needs touches to get in the groove of the game, and I see the Seahawks doing what they can to get the ball in his hands four, five times a game now.
Michael Robinson continues to quietly emerge as one of the main leaders of this team. He leads on special teams, exemplified by his touchdown in the first quarter last night, and he leads in the running game as the Hawks stick to their heavy, two-back sets again. Robinson had a few key blocks to sprung Lynch last night and from what I understand, he's a vocal locker room guy that his teammates look up to. Chalk that up to another huge find by Carroll and Schneider as they snatched him up after he was released in final cuts by the 49ers last year.
Now, I'll get back to the stream-of-consciousness - I just went to find some quotes from Doug Farrar from last night on the role Mike Williams plays on this team and here's what Doug said, exactly one minute ago as I'm writing this post:
"Rewatching SEA-STL this morning, and the first thing that stands out: Michael Robinson was absolutely destroying defenders with blocks."
I digress. As I was saying, Doug brought up some interesting points about the role that BMW has played on this team this year - on the surface he's taken a big step back, statistically speaking, but his leadership and humility has apparently been huge for the Seahawks. As Doug pointed out, Golden Tate had this to say about Williams - "Mike's done a great job teaching the young guys -- I actually sit beside Mike in our meetings, and any questions I might have, I can ask Mike and rely on him to give me a very legitimate answer."
Per Dougie Baldwin, on some of the challenges as a rookie: "Learning coverages, and that's about staying in meetings with the coaches, or with Mike Williams. He's helped me a lot at expanding my knowledge of the game and of coverages. I couldn't read the coverages in the first half, and Mike sat down and talked to me..."
Farrar will have a piece up about that today, so make sure to check that out on Shutdown Corner. The other side of this story is that BMMFW actually had a couple of big first down catches in this one and that's encouraging.
On the defensive side, I thought Earl Thomas had another quietly effective game. I thought Kam Chancellor played well, and put a big hit on Steven Jackson to stuff him short of the first down at one point. Chancellor nearly had an interception and K.J. Wright nearly had one as well. This team is doing a good job of putting themselves in a position to force turnovers and this disruptiveness and big-play potential is certainly a nice change from last year's team.
The whole bend-but-don't break philosophy was pretty insufferable last season because the defense struggled to create many turnovers. You can allow big gains as long as you hold strong when it counts and then jump on your chances to take the ball away from the offense. It doesn't work unless you take the ball away. Last season, the Seahawks finished the year -9 in turnover ratio, which was 27th in the league. This season, through 13 games, they're at +4 and 10th in the league.
Guess which teams are at the top of the turnover ratio list. San Francisco, Green Bay, Detroit, Houston, New England, Chicago... It's not a coincidence that the turnover ratio is the NUMBER ONE point of emphasis in Pete Carroll's system. I don't have the stat in front of me but the USC Trojans were something like 1,000,000,000 - 0 when winning the turnover battle during Carroll's tenure there and the Seahawks' improvement in that facet might one of the most tangible ways to measure progress.
The Bad:
Steven Hauschka missed a 38-yard field goal at home. Slightly disconcerting, but taken into the context that Olindo Mare missed a 36-yarder this week and is now possibly on the hot-seat in Carolina despite a 4-year, $12 million contract, I suppose it could be worse. Now, Hauschka is a 26-year old that Seattle apparently plans to develop and work with for years to come so I'm not overly concerned, it's just not something you can chalk up to the 'good' column. He did connect from 42, 23, and 48 so I'll stop complaining now.
Robert Gallery and David Hawthorne were hobbled. If Gallery goes out for extended time... well, sheesh.
I know that a lot of the penalties were ticky tack, but Richard Sherman's taunting penalty really irked me - more for the down and distance he incurred it on. Do that on a 2nd down at midfield, not when your defense is about to get off the field after making a goal line stand. I know his teammates tore him a new one on that so I'll leave it at that.
The Ugly:
The second and third quarters. For both teams.
Conclusion:
I don't know if there's anything I can really put my finger on about this game, but throughout the 2nd and 3rd quarter I just found myself in a cringe state that I couldn't shake. The sloppy play, the weird play-calling, the penalties... I don't know what it was but it left me with a bad taste in my mouth. I don't know if it was that the Rams aren't the toughest of opponents at this exact moment or that they're missing soooo mannnnny corrrrnerrrbacks, but I had a hard time feeling that elation I normally do after a win.
That being said, Kingdomer put me in my place when he said, "Buddy, Friend, Meshuga, please don't buy into the national narrative about the Seahawks never winning game, just their opponents losing... Remember John Moffit? Russell Okung? Sidney Rice? Carpenter? Trufant? Walter Thurmond? John freaking Carlson? TJax tore his pectoral only a few weeks ago...
Every team suffers injuries. Whether or not a team is "decimated" by them has more to do with the team, its coaches, its depth, and its desire than with the injuries themselves. With the amount of injuries the Seahawks have had, they could have easily faced a similar result on the year as the Rams.
No excuses. The Seahawks won. They won it pretty, the won it ugly, they won in spite of the 7 billionth questionable call on our secondary.
Just win, baby."
Well, sh*t. Fair enough man, fair enough. A win's a win's a win's a win's a win.
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Actually I love that Sherman did that
F it. It shows he has got some fire in him which is way better than watching the cbs we have had get beat up and down the field. Brownsher brings an attitude and a defense that I love. That being said, if this was in a compettiive game, I would have been pissed.
He didn't call it ticky tack
In fact he stated it wasn’t, at least that is how I read it and said it was dumb.
Yeah I might have worded it wrong
The interference and holding calls were tickytack, Sherman’s taunting penalty was just ridiculously easy to call.
by Danny Kelly on Dec 13, 2011 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
I don't think Danny did call it that, though.
That penalty irked him, while others were ticky tack.
I, like dogsho (incredible name), love Sherman’s attitude. I trust that he will reel it in.
And by rediculous you mean awesome?
Yes it was a stupid penalty at the worst time but dammit it’s nice to have a young defense with some confidence or as the youth say "swagger ". I’m so tired of hearing about how soft Seattle has been now it’s our turn to hit people in the mouth.
Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair or fucking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. - Al Swearengen
haha - I do like that they are no longer soft. I don't want "dumb" though.
by Danny Kelly on Dec 13, 2011 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
I think TJ finally learned that he can throw the ball in the general vicinity of the receiving blob that is Mike Williams
And get reliable first downs. Both of BMW’s catches were of last year’s flavor, where the ball comes out quick and dirty and the next thing you know Mike is falling down with it just past the 1st down marker. It was monumentally encouraging to me, for such a small thing.
by jhmg16 on Dec 13, 2011 11:11 AM PST reply actions 6 recs
ESPN's montage of the Rams failing on goal-to-go last night during the game was the highlight of my life.
I know they were making fun of the playcalling but still.
by jhmg16 on Dec 13, 2011 11:25 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Watching the Goal Line Stand
Had my whole house laughing like crazy, everyone was in disbelief that it took them THAT many tries to get in. Josh McD went Martzish, and Steven Jackson, of all people finally brought them down to earth. That’s just terrible coaching, almost as bad as QB dive and naked roll out. Wait, they did that too.
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by JRock419 on Dec 13, 2011 11:47 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Sherman almost stuffed Jackson on the TD run, too.
Which would have been especially sweet.
by jhmg16 on Dec 13, 2011 12:42 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Leavy and crew decided to negate a PI call as incidental contact when Random Rams CB trips up Baldwin
But calls illegal contact and PI on sherman and Browner all day long in the endzone.
One call on Sherman was legit, the others were crap. The taunting penalty ticked me off but once I came down from my homer high horse I was simply pissed off at Sherman.
Leavy even blew the onsides kick call. Result was right but said that the kicker touched it first. How does one go under the hood, look at the same thing everyone else is seeing and come up with that?
by vertigoman on Dec 13, 2011 11:26 AM PST via mobile reply actions
Two players getting their feet tangled up is no longer an automatic defensive PI call.
This is a huge improvement in NFL rules governing the passing game. Probably the most significant development since the “rules emphasis” of 2004. We were burned by it last night but it was the right call.
So many atrocious PI calls against us when a receiver just ran over one of our stick figure cornerbacks in the past. So thankful that is no longer automagical DPI.
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by jacobstevens on Dec 13, 2011 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
Yes it was the right call
I guess what I’m saying is, he didn’t make the right call on other plays regarding Browner and Sherman.
I think it’s reputation at this point.
At any rate, while the PI calls in the endzone are frustrating legit or not I’d rather our DBs play aggressive then play like Trufant/Jennings.
by vertigoman on Dec 13, 2011 12:47 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Was at the game so no benefit of replay,
but to me it looked like like our DBs were pulling the WRs back hip or shoulder on each of the PI calls, and that is specifically what refs look foor. one of the defensive holding calls i could not see because it was too close to the seahawks sideline.
the Leavy call on the incidental contact was clearly incidental tangling of feet, whereas most of the PI called on the hawks was for hand play turning the WR away from the ball.
I never saw the taunting, I might have to go back and look at the tape.
As far as the defensive holding calls, if you ask Browner and Sherman to jam they will invariably fail on the jam some of the time – it makes sense to commit a hold instead of letting the Rams connect on a big play.
The PI calls in the endzone are a matter of spending more time in practice and on the field and learning how not do do things.
I think Pete Carroll has the patience to let the talent we have on the team bloom, and given the ability of this FO to find oodles of hidden talent, I think the fans need to be more patient with the development of rookies and first year NFL players.
Also, kudos to the OL in general, and to my choice for MVP Paul McQuistan who played a very solid LT – I don’t know who committed the single offsides penalty, but no holding calls from the OL at all.
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by pqlqi on Dec 13, 2011 11:44 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Browners penalty in the endzone was very borderline
It looked clean to me. He came around the receiver and put his right hand near the waist but it didn’t seem to affect the route then reached out with the left hand and defended the pass.
Shermans penalty near the endzone looked to me like a quick hold/bump near the shoulder and did slow the progress or turn the receiver for a quick second.
by Seahawk_Superbowl on Dec 13, 2011 6:59 PM PST up reply actions
Marshawn looked great!
I was starting to question him after week 5 or so but man has he turned up his game. He has always ran relentlessly but now he’s hitting the hole hard and juking people out of their shoes in the second level. He looks quicker than ever right now. We now have a running game and a really tough defense. The penalties are terrible but Danny is right, many of the calls on Sherman and Browner are really questionable. They’re being called because they have gotten a reputation. I think it will be a while before those guys get a fair shake but we can have those penalties if we can cut out the false starts and other bs. I have to give some props to the backups on the line too. They weren’t perfect but for having 3 backups out there they looked pretty good.
Let's just get to the heart of the matter on this series. Is The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly the best western of all-time?
I say yes. Once Upon a Time in the West, a close second.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Dec 13, 2011 11:46 AM PST reply actions
I agree.
It’s hard to beat Clint and Sergio Leone’s masterpiece. For a Few Dollars More was also very good.
by Blake Jensen on Dec 13, 2011 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
Leone will never get enough credit as one of the greatest and most influential directors of our time.
Watching modern movies before I had watched his westerns it was like “Wow, this is where all those directors ‘steal’ from”
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by Kenneth Arthur on Dec 13, 2011 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed.
I heard somewhere Quentin Tarantino said that The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly was the greatest directed film of all time. That is some high praise. What amazes me about the Dollars trilogy is how captivating they are with such minimal dialogue. The shots he used were iconic, yet it felt like the actors hardly ever talked. It just makes it even more amazing if you ask me.
by Blake Jensen on Dec 13, 2011 12:05 PM PST up reply actions
I agree with both your take on Leone's work.
I just wish Once Upon a Time was more enjoyable. It has to be enjoyable. The technical elements & execution matter, but leaning on that alone is like a moral victory in sports. Western as a genre is hard to put a single crown upon because there are so many unique elements that came from the genre, that each seem to epitomize the genre, but few films capture all of that. When they attempt to capture all those elements, well it can be a little overly ambitious, and have results like what I described about Once Upon.
With a smaller scope of how “western” they are, probably two of my favorites are High Noon — a simple but compelling idea, done just right — and the original True Grit. Haven’t seen the new one yet but look forward to it soon.
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by jacobstevens on Dec 13, 2011 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
Hard to say.
Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair or fucking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. - Al Swearengen
Damn enter button.
Unforgiven was a masterpiece but really anything with a Ennio Morricone score will win my heart. Tombstone was a good movie too.
Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair or fucking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. - Al Swearengen
Watching Unforgiven for the first time,
I felt like like every John Wayne-style western had just received a swift kick in the nuts (with the possible exception of The Shootist).
Outlaw Josey Welles is good, too.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on Dec 13, 2011 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
My god, Once Upon a Time in the West was barely watchable.
It’s like a caricature of a western. Cut out about an hour and a half of long shots of gritty cowboys staring menacingly at one another and you have yourself a fantastic film. A prototypical yet unique western story, produced tremendously well, cast tremendously well. It should have been the greatest western ever, but that was one amplifier that shouldn’ta been turned up to 11.
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by jacobstevens on Dec 13, 2011 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
While I usually prefer Eastwood westerns
for best of all time I gotta go with the Duke and “The Searchers”. “The Good, the Bad and the Ugly”, “High Noon”, and “The Magnificent Seven” are just behind it though.
And of course we can’t forget, “Blazing Saddles”
by SmartAssCoug on Dec 13, 2011 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
Hey, where all the white women at?
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by jacobstevens on Dec 13, 2011 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
Ooh baby, you are so talented. And they are soo dumb.
by SmartAssCoug on Dec 13, 2011 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
I thought about making the reference to that part, putting the gun against his own head.
I didn’t have the balls to quote it though.
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by jacobstevens on Dec 13, 2011 12:54 PM PST up reply actions
Hard to watchMagnificent Seven after Seven Samurai.
by vertigoman on Dec 13, 2011 12:55 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Same here.
Forgot to mention Shane, one of my favorites. Love Unforgiven. So now I have to see the Searchers. Treasure of the Sierra Madre. And the under-rated comedy western spoof The Hallelujah Trail.
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by jacobstevens on Dec 13, 2011 1:04 PM PST up reply actions
Konnichiwa, partner
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"John Morgan IS Field Gulls, asshole!"
Greatest movie of all time
And one of the greatest westerns, even though it’s not a western. Samurais, cowboys, whatever.
Not the greatest movie of all time? Battle Beyond The Stars.
Yes.
The whole man with no name trilogy was great .
Unforgiven comes pretty damn close though.
by vertigoman on Dec 13, 2011 12:52 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Yes, on both, and I don't think anything else is close
Although I did enjoy the Cohen brothers remake of True Grit
by B.B.Finnegan on Dec 13, 2011 12:56 PM PST up reply actions
I'd also like to throw in Little Big Man
Hilarious and sad. A not so politically correct Dances with Wolves (or Avatar)
by B.B.Finnegan on Dec 13, 2011 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
Good call, forgot about that one.
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by jacobstevens on Dec 13, 2011 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
When I lived in Italy I took this AMAZING course on spaghetti westerns
Sadly I studied Spanish my entire life and was unable to understand a word of the lectures, but hey, every day was a movie day!
I'm going to go with Dead Man.
It’s not the greatest but it’s my favorite, and after seeing The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly as an adult I understood where so much of the “feel” in Dead Man came from.
by brugg on Dec 13, 2011 9:41 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Great film.
My favorite Jarmusch film for sure.
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
is anyone else completely floored that we still have a chance to go to the playoffs
in a second straight year of a 2 year top to bottom rebuild?
13 Seahawks are out on IR, including 6 starters if you don’t count Carlson. We still have some holes on the roster – elite pass rusher to go with Clemons, LB depth is thin, could use more depth at DB, and everyone has opinions at QB (at the minimum – need a replacement for Whitehurst as backup and another developmental player to push Portis, at the maximum – sell out for a top 5 draft pick or bring in P Manning).
In the prior 4 years, if we lost two players at the top of the depth chart at any position our team was basically cooked. Now, we lose our top two CBs and 3 of our 5 offensive line starters and we are on a 4-1 streak. (sure 3 are against the Ramsx2 and an imploding Eagles team, but I’d absolutely take a win over the Ravens and a loss to the Redskins over the reverse).
I love where this team is now and where I think it is going. Sure it’s not perfect by any stretch, but I’ve gone from hopeless (under the last 3 years of Ruskell) to hopelessly optimistic (like in a "goddam these guys could be really fucking good next year and make a run to the NFC championship). All the while, there are 31 other FOs competing against us for player and coaching talent, and it looks to me like we are improving faster than at least 25 other teams. I don’t know if we make the playoffs this year; that seems like a hard hill to climb. But I think I am already writing our team in for the playoffs from 2012 until PC retires to Bainbridge Island with his 6 Superbowl rings. GO HAWKS!
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by pqlqi on Dec 13, 2011 12:19 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, last week I was like whatever
and this week I’m like, wait a minute Falcons probably get number five, but 6th is still up for grabs and mostly comes down to Detroit
by B.B.Finnegan on Dec 13, 2011 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
No to Peyton Manning
He is a great QB but there are a number of issues with bringing him to Seattle. For starters, his health and longevity along with his age. Manning also needs to spend a bunch of time with his WR to get them on the same page as he is, and based on the projected dates that all of that drama will play out he may miss some OTA time. Finally, Peyton plays the offense the way he wants and really wouldn’t allow himself to be fit into the offense the Seahawks currently run. Have the Colts ever really been a rushing team?
One other point is the sheer financial cost of such a move. Honestly, we are not just a QB away from a superbowl title, so it makes no sense to spend the $ to get Peyton. We would be better served drafting a QB that can start for us for the next 8 years or so and spending money to get an elite free agent DE to disrupt the opposing passing game.
You make a lot of assumptions about what Manning would and wouldn't do...
and I don’t think it is necessarily the right move.
But what if Indy just flat out cuts Manning even though he has recovered because they are moving on with the future, and you could sign Manning to a one year $12 million contract with club options for up to two more years at a similar rate? If the Colts cut him, it will have to be before any allowed OTAs, otherwise they are out $28 million, so he would be available for all OTAs with his new team. A fresh and rebuilt OL with our left side would have to be appealing to Manning. Manning has all the knowledge of an elite OC in his back pocket, knows how to exploit every defense, and turns noname receivers like Collie and Garcon into FF standouts and gamechanging WRs. As for needing time with his receivers??? last year Tamme came in when D. Clark was injured and performed at exactly the same level – the history of recievers playing with Manning has been complete fungibility. What if he isn’t the drama queen you make him out to be?
If you drop Whitehurst, Manning only costs you 8 million more for the year. You use your first two draft picks on Chris Polk (or Richardson) as the RB backup and a 2nd round LB (likely be the 2nd or 3rd best LB in the draft. Use on FA pickup on C Avril or Mathis as a pass rushing DE to join Clemons. Where is the hole? Why couldn’t this team make it to the NFC championship?
QB P Manning, Tarvaris Jackson
RB Lynch, (C Polk or Trent Richardson)
WR S Rice, D Baldwin (R. Wayne?), G Tate, BMW, Lockette, Durham
TE Z Miller, J Carlson, C Morrah
OL Okung, Gallery, Unger, Moffitt, (Carpenter vs JKing vs Breno)
DE (FA Elite pass rushing DE), Clemons, Red Bryant
DT Branch, Mebane, Red Bryant
LB Heater, KJ Wright, Hill, (2nd round LB pick or FA LB), Malcolm Smith
CB WT3, Sherman, Browner
S ET, Kam, Lewis
I don’t think it’s the best thing for Tarvaris’ development, but if you could put that together and still be under the salary cap… The run game we have would actually help protect Manning from injury and make it even easier for him in the vertical passing game.
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by pqlqi on Dec 14, 2011 3:59 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Although...
I would feel kind of dirty if the Seahawks won that way instead of continuing on the path they are currently following.
Portis could use a good mentor right?
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A lot of people have been down on Mike Williams this year, but
hearing what he has done for Tate and Baldwin (in this game, at least) is absolutely huge. Awesome.
Eternally looking forward to someone making a Seahawks song based off of Lil' Jon's "Shots" song named "Hawks!"
BEAST!
ok. I know we won. I know ML got ovoer 100 yds and a TD. A win is a win, so as any good fan, I am…well, satisfied.
My question to the general population here is this: Like Steven Jackson for the Rams, why did we blow off Marshawn in the red zone through 3 quarters? BEAST was nigh unstoppable against a woeful rams run D, but every time we got inside the 20 – 3 failed pass attempts and a field goal try. Isn’t one of the best reasons for having Lynch is to improve our goal-line win percentage?
Baldwin rocks, Yes the calls on our secondary were BS, BMW is still needed (should convert to tight end), T-Jack still needs to get rid of the ball faster but is looking MUCH better, We have finally found an O-Line coach in Tom Cable.
by EZ Hawk on Dec 13, 2011 12:45 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I agree.
That drive where Lynch had his BEAST MODE run of 10 yards to the 10, and then a 5 yard run to the 5 right after, and then they stopped running the ball. Like WTF dudes?
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by Corax --Nevermore-- on Dec 13, 2011 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
HE PRACTICED EVERY DAY
HE FELT BETTER THAN BEFORE THE INJURY, HE WAS WOWING US IN PRACTICE YOU SHOULDA BEEN THERE
I refer BMW as a "should be TE" playing WR.
Creates more matchup problems. Same with Morrah. Big guys, faster than most TEs, with the hands and athleticism of a WR.
by Matt Erickson on Dec 13, 2011 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
Beast Skittles has exactly 31 more yards to go to break 1000
Apologies if that number was thrown around earlier already
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by Corax --Nevermore-- on Dec 13, 2011 1:27 PM PST reply actions
I am starting to believe in TJ a little
I don’t think he is HOF or anything, but I’m starting to decide that he can get the job done.
No matter who we draft, we probably don’t want the starting week one if we can help it and TJ is still on contract, so…
Give him time to heal and an actual training camp to get ready and I’m mildly excited to see what he can do. He could give us a little playoff run next year, based on the way he is playing right now. Nothing spectacular, but good enough to get the ball to play makers hands without many mistakes.
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I have almost agreed with this since the Giants game, but-
I want to force him to do that pocket presence tennis ball drill from Madden every single day of the offseason. And put BMW in street clothes roughly 8 yards downfield just holding a sign that says I AM OPEN EVEN WHEN I’M NOT
I'm not saying I want to sign him to a long term contract as the starter or anything
But I’m starting to see that he could do good things next year within the limits of his talents.
I think thats the difference between PC and the joker in minn. He understands TJs limits and isn’t trying to make him into Favre, he is just trying to make him win with what he has. I’ve think I’ve decided that he has enough talent to win.
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Nice sig mate. Ax murderer, eh?
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by jacobstevens on Dec 13, 2011 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
One of the greatest movies ever
So many good quotes
they took turns pissing into the bitch's ocular cavities.
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Lies, all I see is the word 'thumbs', no actual finger pointing upwards
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by Corax --Nevermore-- on Dec 13, 2011 8:28 PM PST up reply actions
I'm pretty sure I actually saw him step up in the pocket last night
I mean it’s such a small thing, but it jumped out at me right away because he’s been so bad at it.
Unrelated...sort of
at the end of the highlight, the blonde chick is screaming ‘marshawn, I love you!!!’. I caught it live yesterday, anyone else notice that?
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by Corax --Nevermore-- on Dec 13, 2011 3:44 PM PST reply actions
Okay, I teared up a bit for the Mike Williams part
It’s good to know that he’s not pouting in the locker room, but it’s even better to know that given a second chance he truly understands how to be a good teammate and, quite frankly, a decent man who will have success off the field if not on it. Contribute where you can; last night two nice first down catches. I forsee a big moment in his future.
So proud of him and proud to be a fan of a team seemingly full of guys like this. I love these Seahawks.
Most of my cliches aren't original.
- Chuck Knox
I know what you mean
The Doug Baldwin/Mike Williams thing makes me REALLY miss playing competitive team sports. There’s nothing like it.
I'd just like to point out that I think KJ Wright belongs in the "Good" section this week
He played very well.
by Ovreel on Dec 13, 2011 6:06 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Wright has been a monster the last couple weeks.
It looks like he still gets out of position every once in a while, but man can he get off the edge in a hurry. Really fun to watch.

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