What is the Value of a Franchise Safety (or Two)?

So I would be loathe (que palabra) to part with ET or Kam as part of a package for our
QBOTF. It might mess with morale too.

But if JS wants my input, I’ll give him the thumbs up on trading two firsts and two seconds for Carolina’s 2011 pick so we can tab Barkley or Griffin.

I can’t help but think back to 04-07 when we gave up 300 yds a game through the air. I love seeing an elite offense put points up but it’s less fun when the other offense looks elite as well. We are a pretty respectable team even with T-Jack, and could easily be in contention had the o-line been together longer, or stayed together at all. It’s because of the defense. I don’t think this team needs a huge leap in talent above Jackson to be mentioned as a contender. The Hawks have taken huge steps to get to where they are, and I don’t like the idea of taking a step back unless it gets us like…4 steps ahead.

so it would be .relatively. easy to replace Earl or Kam if we were to trade them away. I’d hate to see either of them go, however.

The “experts” have ranked this years QB class and our guys will rank them too. I’d be willing to bet they’re not the same list. Schnider will take somebody in the second or third round. The whole country will laugh and call it a “reach” or just stupid. And in two or three years we will have a pro-bowl QB winning Superbowls . GO SEAHAWKS!!!

Kind of hard to stay away from a safety. And if a team has two top safeties on the field you’re just going to have to face them. So as far as value of being elite at that position goes I’d have to say Oh Hell Yes!

Lots of good discussion there about not wanting to trade an established defensive player for a QB who is merely potentially good and isn’t named Andrew Luck. So let’s raise the stakes. After the Colts draft Luck, Peyton Manning is given a clean bill of health by the very best physicians in the world and he wants out. Manning is not known to be a WCO quarterback but, on the other hand, he’s Peyton Fucking Manning. Is it worth it to include a high-end safety who’s just entering his prime in that package?

I would love it if PC/JS moved up to get a QB that they think will be the QBOTF, but I NOT at the expense of some of the exciting players we have now. Instead of going that route I would MUCH prefer to see us try and develop a quarterback like Portis, or even a couple of other projects out of this draft.

Sorry about the few grammar error and maybe a speeling error- wink – but the interface was not playing nice with IE. Table formatting was completely removed, some edits I know I made disappeared, and R Clark was left off as the second safety playing with Polamalu in the last Superbowl.

Props go out to pro-football-reference.com for all of the information I found. The website is a trove of data, though sometimes it’s like a Rude Golberg creation trying to find a certain piece of information.

As for my opinion on the safeties and DBs. My guess would be that Browner and Sherman were just shots in the dark, with the FO thinking Browner had maybe a 20% chance of making a good transition and Sherman maybe having a 30-40% chance to be an effective corner – with backup plans that both of them might be sized to play safety if things didn’t work out at CB.

I think overall Pete could not be happier with the total product put on the field the last 4 weeks given the low cost to get those 4 players. 1st rd 14th pick, 5th round, 4th round, and UDFA to build a very talented secondary that makes the expected mistakes of young and brash players. It’s telling that not many people could really bring issue with the character of USC players as a whole while PC coached there, and I think we will see some of the mistakes associated with youthful passion disappearing.

I’d love to have a secondary that is considered top third for the next 4-6 years and that maybe pulls together a few elite years in that span. At this point, I see a good recovery for WT3 and a decent edge pass rusher to complement Clemons as the only bumps in the road to the Hawks having a top 10 pass defense, and they already have a top 10 run defense.

I’d very much dislike seeing either safety being traded away, but I also understand that PC and JS have a clear vision (one that so far I like a lot, you know, like really “like” like) about how they build the team and while I might moan or groan about some trades, my guess would be that down the road, most of the time, we will all get to say “damn, that was a pretty good trade”

Sort of says that SB teams need one outstanding safety and can pair him up with someone who is no greater than a “decent startert”

A ball hawk with range and an enforcer who can cover.