VIDEO: Matt Barkley To Return To USC
by Danny Kelly on Dec 22, 2011 1:56 PM PST
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Field Gulls' Scott Enyeart provides us with a video of Matt Barkley's announcement, complete with a USC marching band flourish at the end. Give it a watch.
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That was like a M. Night Shymalan movie
What a tweest!
by sonse7en on Dec 22, 2011 2:10 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I don't have a sudden rage to demand my money back, so the similarity is only partial
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
by shams on Dec 22, 2011 2:10 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I guess we're looking at other positions in R1.
Well, this is liberating…in a sense. Who do Pete and John like for QB value?
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
I'm interested in Brandon Weeden.
He’ll be 29, but if you can’t get a 22-year-old phenom at QB, why not a guy who could potentially step in the first year and be a capable backup? He’s 6’4, 220, has a strong arm and the biggest thing hurting his draft stock is his age. But I think he’s better than Chris Weinke. If you can’t get the guy who will be your franchise QB for 10-12 years, why not a guy who could be the answer for 3-4 years?
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by Kenneth Arthur on Dec 22, 2011 2:15 PM PST up reply actions
I can't answer that any more than I can answer that question about any prospect.
Maybe? Yes? No?
If the cost is a 4th round draft pick, does it matter? Seattle needs a backup QB in 2012, if not a starter, and Weeden at least has upside in the short-term.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Dec 22, 2011 2:19 PM PST up reply actions
If there isn't anyone else they love, sure. You're right that in a vacuum backup QB is certainly worth a 4th rounder.
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
by shams on Dec 22, 2011 2:22 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm projecting so far down the road, I'm taking a shot at a player I wouldn't mind the drafting IF they had NO other options that they liked for a developmental QBOTF.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Dec 22, 2011 2:28 PM PST up reply actions
I don't need an MSW degree, I'm making the call--
this is a healthy projection
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
I guess I'm looking at it as if we are going to draft a QB I want one that has a chance to develop.
I feel like some of the knocks on TJ is that he has hit his cieling and is never going to improve. I kind of feel we’d be in the same boat with another 29 year old QB. I’d rather take a chance on a guy who might be the answer long term. I feel like there are a number of 29 yo qb’s out there we could sign and not waste a draft pick on.
I want that too but we may not have that option.
It wouldn’t hurt to have two TJ’s in the interim because finding a franchise QB is not easy and it’s really hard if you’re drafting in the middle of the first round and the 2nd best QB prospect just went back to school. I still think RG3 could go back to school too which means even LANDRY JONES might go in the top 12. It’s not crazy either, who thought Christian Ponder would go that high? Teams freak out and the Redskins/Dolphins/Browns are just a few teams that may be sitting there like “Damn, just grab a QB in the first round.”
We shouldn’t do that. But if we can get a suitable backup with the potential to outplay TJ (He’s probably a better pocket passer than TJ) then why not?
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by Kenneth Arthur on Dec 22, 2011 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
I see what your saying and I"m not advocating we reach for a QB at all.
I just think that 29 is usually an age where a QB is starting to peak and that peak wouldn’t be a dramatic improvement impovement over TJ. I would rather take a swing on a young guy and see if you can develop him.
As a 4th round draft pick, potentially getting a starter for 3+ years? As a 4th round draft pick.
I can’t emphasize enough, 4th round draft pick.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Dec 22, 2011 2:36 PM PST up reply actions
I think it depends what round we draft him in, Kenneth.
You’re missing this.
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
Don't forget that Weeden just started playing football at a high level of competition
I don’t think you can assume he’s reached his ceiling just because of age. He’s shown himself to be a great athlete and he’s improved every year. That’s why guys like Jason Pierre-Paul are so intriguing because of their production while being relatively new to the game.
There's only so much you can improve in college.
Everybody deserves his (small) chance that exposure to the pro game will unlock their own Super Mario.
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
I hope he turns into a raccoon.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Dec 22, 2011 2:51 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Sure, pretty much any animal power could be useful.
Nothing aquatic, mind.
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
by shams on Dec 22, 2011 2:56 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Frogs have some pretty good land abilities.
I could see quick handoffs on stretch plays. TJ has already shown us that a jump pass, while not always the best option, can still be effective. And you want elusiveness? Frogs are pretty damn slippery.
I’m just saying just because one is primarily aquatic doesn’t mean one can’t be effective.
by brugg on Dec 22, 2011 4:37 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Backyard Football.
Leapfrog was always a guaranteed TD. I would love to have a guy that could do that.
Jackson can still improve greatly
if only from consistency. I think he’s approached his ceiling. Meaning, he could get a little bit better, regardless of consistency.
And with consistency, on a healthy form of the team they’re trying to build, that can be a Pro Bowl performance (matching Pro Bowl numbers but not actually worthy of the Pro Bowl) and 11 to 13 wins.
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by jacobstevens on Dec 22, 2011 2:55 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
We have a good option at backup QB in 2012
The staff loves Portis, so I don’t see why they wouldn’t stick with him as a backup.
This is reaching on so many levels.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Dec 22, 2011 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
That's what she said.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Dec 22, 2011 2:44 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Seriously though, what's your favorite Josh Portis play of 2011?
No. Serious though, what’s your favorite practice squad play of Portis in 2012?
Just kidding, let’s be serious. How long have you worked for the Seahawks?
Look, I’m going to be serious now. Are you Josh Portis?
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by Kenneth Arthur on Dec 22, 2011 2:45 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
I'm going off of what I've heard about him from interviews with staff
I’m certainly not about to write a love letter to him on Field Gulls or anything.
Do you honestly think that because of what you heard in interviews with staff, that we DEFINITELY have a solid backup for 2012?
I can’t remember the last time I heard a coaching staff say about a player they were trying to develop: “He’s a real piece of shit. Hate his guts. Can’t play and won’t be around next season. But he’s on the practice squad so who gives a shit?”
Portis might be ready to backup in 2012. Might not. You or I have no real evidence to support this or idea or not.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Dec 22, 2011 2:51 PM PST up reply actions
I just feel like spending a 4th rounder on a backup QB is a recipe for continued mediocrity
Like perpetual 7-8 win seasons. I will never ever propose tanking a season, but I’d rather have a 3 win season with an injured franchise QB and horrible backup play than a 7 win season with 2 Derrick Andersons playing ok some games and awful other games. Aside from a few exceptions, most teams in the NFL with pro bowl caliber QBs had at least one terrible season leading up to them getting their QBOTF.
by Brendan O'Leary on Dec 22, 2011 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
I hate it too, and it's why I had to include "Aside from a few exceptions"
Rodgers too. After Farve. Some teams have all the fun
by Brendan O'Leary on Dec 22, 2011 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
How about that news (news to me at least) that Green Bay tried to shop the pick but found no takers?
They took Rodgers reluctantly.
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
I just keep banging my head on the original point though.
What option do we have?
I’m not advocating for a Brandon Weeden fourth-round-type-selection as a QBOTF. But if you can’t get one in the first round, then you can take a shot at a guy who is capable of playing in 2012 if necessary. It will not impede us at all from drafting a QBOTF later down the line. There won’t be any tanking in Seattle. I would rather win 9 games next year than 2. Let’s not get crazy just because we can’t draft a super prospect at QB this year.
I’m trying to work within the parameters set forth.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Dec 22, 2011 3:09 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah. QB is a hard position to find consensus on.
All other positions you’re hoping to draft a starter. I suppose I’ve just a kneejerk reaction when I hear “draft a backup”. But you’re right, we do need one, and most backups in the NFL were drafted, and not picked up as an UDFA. To your point “what option do we have” I’m sure we’ll find out in April. Seems to me this FO finds the players it wants in all rounds. If there is a DT that they believe could rotate into a starting role by the end of 2012, and a QB they believe would be a solid backup both available, I wonder which one they take
by Brendan O'Leary on Dec 22, 2011 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
Definitely.
Waiting until at least the draft order is set would be a starting point.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Dec 22, 2011 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
Well you don't draft Weeden hoping he's a back up quarterback.
You draft him hoping that at worst you get a back up QB and at best you get a short term impact like something on the level of what Matt Ryan has done for the Falcons.
Matt Ryan
Was drafted #3 overall. A 4th round QB playing at the level of Matt Ryan would be incredible, but I wouldn’t call Matty Ice’s impact short term. He is their future at the QB position, and was drafted accordingly
by Brendan O'Leary on Dec 22, 2011 3:28 PM PST up reply actions
I think he just means.. Matt Ryan has the potential to get a lot better.
Weeden’s ceiling might be what Matt Ryan was last year. That’s not too crazy… he’s ~90 QB rating for the first three years of his career. Getting Julio Jones has helped a lot.
But Ryan has more room to grow, whereas Weeden probably won’t.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Dec 22, 2011 3:34 PM PST up reply actions
Ah, understood.
Matt Ryan’s week 14 performance led me to lose in my fantasy playoffs. By 4 points. The very mention of his name makes me feel like crying in the shower. Which means I’ll probably end up drafting him too high next year
by Brendan O'Leary on Dec 22, 2011 3:36 PM PST up reply actions
Right, which is why Ryan goes third overall and Weeden goes in the third round or later.
You’re still not asking Weeden to be the future of your team, just be a solid QB for a few years maybe (which is what I think Matt Ryan is right now).
No, I don't.
I probably mis-spoke a bit when I called him a good option, but I think there’s a chance he is a good option, and based on what they’ve said, the coaching staff may feel he is.
As far as a coaching staff ever giving feedback about players they’re down on, I think one obvious alternative – they probably just don’t say anything.
What about Portis?
Not that I expect him to develop into anything more than a backup, but the F.O. does seem to like the kid, and with 4th rounders buying us players like KJ with Schneider’s scouting background, I wonder if drafting a backup QB in the 4th would be a throwaway pick? I’ve been really impressed with this teams ability to find solid players for their system in the mid to late rounds
by Brendan O'Leary on Dec 22, 2011 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
How much can Portis continue to develop as a scout-team QB, is a related question.
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
"Better than Chris Weinke"
Check please!
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
He's at least twice as good as Drew Henson!
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by Kenneth Arthur on Dec 22, 2011 2:31 PM PST up reply actions
He seems fascinated by the cheerleaders
and his own thumbs. odd.
Seahawk Blue isn't too much darker than Boise State Blue.
Kellen Moore in the 4th round?
Eternally looking forward to someone making a Seahawks song based off of Lil' Jon's "Shots" song named "Hawks!"
That's what I'm talking about
Kellen Moore & Ryan Tannehill would be my next two options. I’d take a stab at both of them.
Not a big fan of Foles…but I’d take him if he slipped
OR if Russel Wilson falls deep, why not drop a late pick on him. He’s a quality player, just small. Not that big of a risk if he cant cut it size or skill wise.
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I know everybody loves Kellen Moore. I like him too. He's a great college QB.
He’s a great college QB because he’s not exposed by the fact that he’s under 6 feet tall. That he’s rarely pressured. That he plays against inferior competition.
Kellen Moore could be had in undrafted free agency.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Dec 22, 2011 2:33 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I think that's a stretch too.
He’s going to get drafted. Maybe he grades out as an UDFA but I don’t think you’re going to get him there.
It would not be the first time that a "Great Name" went undrafted. People are super shocked when it happens and then the player winds up in some random football league afterall.
No NFL team is going to draft Kellen Moore unless they think he’s literally the best QB available. Moore grades out low. I guess Barkley staying in school gives him slightly (ever so slightly) higher odds.
If you can be a 6th round pick, you can be undrafted. But sure, Eric Crouch was drafted in the third round. Anything is possible.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Dec 22, 2011 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
Are there examples of that?
The last big name QB that didn’t get drafted was Jason White, and that’s because he didn’t have knees. Moore is a significantly more interesting as a prospect than guys like Greg McElroy, Johnathan Crompton, Sean Canfield, Andre Woodson or Alex Brink, all of whom were drafted.
Jason White was a gridiron fright--
it’s a shame he had no knees./ He took his plight and charged to make it right/ in the court of common pleas.
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
by shams on Dec 22, 2011 3:02 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd
I don’t know why you wrote that, but it’s stuff like that which compels me to read the comments.
It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome.
by mister bunny on Dec 23, 2011 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
Charlie Ward!
Okay, I can’t think of any examples off of the top of my head. I was also considering non-QB position players.
I’ve seen a lot today where Moore is a 6th-7th rounder. Rob Staton also said he’s a possible UDFA. Of course he could get drafted. He’s just not a very good QB prospect as of today.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Dec 22, 2011 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
Thank you!
Kellen Moore in the later rounds is definitely someone I would not be adverse too. the guy has won every step of his career, and I think he would be a nice developmental player for a few years.
If we cant trade up this year to get Griffin
Why not trade our 1st rounder this year for someone else’s 1st rounder next year? That way, next year we’ll have ammo to trade up and get Barkley or some other great QB prospect?
someone has to be willing to trade with us.
but yeah in that case I would be more than willing to do that.
At this point, I think it's pretty likely to happen.
Eternally looking forward to someone making a Seahawks song based off of Lil' Jon's "Shots" song named "Hawks!"
Not get a potential key piece to 2012 because we want to trade up in 2013?
You know, if you trade a first round pick this season that’s at 18, there’s a decent chance your pick next year will be worse than 18.
Don’t pass on a great DE prospect, great OL prospect, great anything-you-need prospect because you’re worried you can’t get a franchise QB by 2013 by going another route. This team has lot of needs to fill.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Dec 22, 2011 2:36 PM PST up reply actions
That's kind of a silly over-simplification
The only two generally-agreed-upon 1st round QB prospects are going to be long gone by the time we pick, and QB is a need. It costs us a lot less to move up next year than it does this year.
Trading a 2012 first round draft pick for a 2013 first round draft pick because you THINK you'll be able to move up in 2013 and get a QB you THINK will be there...
What’s that called if not over-simplification? And being awfully presumptuous.
Nothing in the profile or history of Schneider and Carroll give this logic any merit.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Dec 22, 2011 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
Do you have other options in mind?
I mean, is this a continuation of the Weeden thing? Are you really that high on him? Or am I missing some other option here.
It's called "Draft the best player available for your need in the first round"
If there isn’t a player you feel worthy of your first round selection, then sure, trade down. Don’t trade it away just because no QB is available.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Dec 22, 2011 2:46 PM PST up reply actions
Or if you find a sucker *coughJoshMcDanielscough*
But we won’t see any of that until the draft itself. Teams wanting to trade future picks for present do so because someone is available to them they probably weren’t expecting. No point in trying to project into that type of trade.
Work hard, play harder, rest easy.
In spite of his own team's putrescent offense, McDaniels has to feel somewhat vindicated by Tebow's success
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
Ahh, right.
Smith had a pick a couple weeks ago I think!
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
I must not be communicating this very well, but I'm trying to ask what your plan is for the QB position.
And it’s sort of granted that if we’re going to trade down or trade for a pick next year we’d only be doing it if it makes sense, so I understand that the idea of ‘we should trade down’ is tempered by the fact that there has to be a suitable value-positive trade to make.
Plan:
Draft one if the right one is available. Or don’t.
Let’s talk when things are clear. All things being equal, Tarvaris Jackson will probably end up the starter in 2012.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Dec 22, 2011 5:35 PM PST up reply actions
I have no dog in this fight.
I’m pretty sure a 1st round pick this year is worth more than a 1st round pick next year.Often it seems a team trades a 1st for a 1st and 3rd in the following year. Patience has some value as it relates to the draft. So, if you wanted to go that route for some reason, I think its reasonable to assume you would have more ammo to try and get what you want. Tough sell to the fans, but it might be a good idea.
by brugg on Dec 22, 2011 5:06 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Per Rob Staton, the 2013 QB class looks, from this admittedly distant view, to be weak indeed.
And Roast Barkley of course will be off the menu next year too.
Hmm, I’m feeling peckish. Esurient.
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
Trading it away might be a good option.
As a tactic specific to pursuing a QB prospect, dunno bout that.
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by jacobstevens on Dec 22, 2011 3:05 PM PST up reply actions
Well, that shoots all the analysis to hell
that’s just great.
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by Corax --Nevermore-- on Dec 22, 2011 2:40 PM PST reply actions
You can definitely tell Scott took an extra second or two to focus on the cheerleaders in the beginning of this video.
YOU SLY DOG! (ok, not really, but I would have.)
(PS, this is me just critiquing the video and not talking at all about the implications for the Seahawks).
Which I will do later today, or maybe tomorrow.
Huh? Enyeart+Song Girls has HUGE implictions for the Seahawks!
Head of catering.
by jacobstevens on Dec 22, 2011 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
correct
I am trying to have them create a job for me as the “Song Girl Liaison”
by Scott Enyeart on Dec 23, 2011 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
I guess this means someone will reach on Tannehill now.
Just hope it isn’t us in R1. I’ve seen a lot of non-Seahawk mocks having us take Tannehill in R2, and now some have started to show taking in R1 which makes me a sad panda.
On the other hand, outside of Barkley the QB names that popped up for 2013 (Landry Jones, Tyler Bray, E.J. Manuel) fill me with meh.
Work hard, play harder, rest easy.
Oddly enough, I'm not as upset as I thought I'd be about this.
I guess I figured that we wouldn’t be able to trade our way into the Top 5-7 to get Barkley or RGIII anyway, so all this does is throw teams like Washington and Cleveland into a panic.
Work hard, play harder, rest easy.
Now we can root for wins with a clear conscience!
Work hard, play harder, rest easy.
by jwolf0 on Dec 22, 2011 3:04 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I can now kind of see why Barkley might have wanted to stay for a year, even though this was a douchey way to announce it.
I mean, now he has a shot at playing in a bowl game, right? I don’t see the same allure with RG3; after all, once you play the Washington Huskies in December there really are no more roads left to travel. Seriously though I think from a purely economic standpoint it’s a better deal for RG3 to be the 2nd QB drafted than stay. Heck, I’d go so far as to say that this is a situation where he might even benefit by going 2nd (this year) as opposed to 1st (next) in that the small amount of extra money he’d get with the #1 pick is more than outweighed by the fact that he’d very likely get snapped up by a team trading up to get him (like Seattle or for that matter Miami or Kansas City) or one with fewer holes than a 1-15 typically has (like, heck, Minnesota with Adrian Peterson and an aging but still talented offensive line, or the Redskins, who are really not all that bad of a team for their record). It seems like most of the time going #1 as a QB is a curse as often as it is a blessing.
And as stated before, if Seattle can’t land RG3 or he stays, why does the position have to be filled by the draft? Why not take a flyer on Brady Quinn? Why not pursue Kyle Orton or Peyton Manning in free agency? Why not engineer a trade for John Skelton (okay, no way the Cards would do that with a division rival but you get the idea)? Why not just punt for a year and live with TJax, who really, guys, is not all that bad as a caretaker?
"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)
RG3 has more reasons to stay than just "draft stock" or money. He really wants to get his masters degree.
Vikings aren’t going to draft a QB. Christian Ponder isn’t bad.
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by Kenneth Arthur on Dec 22, 2011 4:42 PM PST up reply actions
That's a good point, and guhhhhhh I like this guy SO SO FREAKING MUCH.
I want him to get some sort of weird but ultimately inconsequential injury in the bowl game vs the Huskies so his stock falls just enough to let PC take him in the draft. But he has to come out first! Come on, RG3! You can get your degree in the offseason! That’s what Shaq did! And Shaq’s a smartie!
"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)
by Johnny Slick on Dec 22, 2011 7:57 PM PST up reply actions
Total side-point,
but Minnesota is set with Ponder. He hasn’t been amazing, but given limited OTAs, etc., they are going to stick with him for a few years.
It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome.
by mister bunny on Dec 23, 2011 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
Hello, Rams fan here.
Have no quarrels with the Seahawks, love Pete Carroll. Just curious, what did this site think about Matt? A lot of Seahawks fans I’ve come across on the internet seem to have really wanted him, and I’ve even read a few Barkley pieces on the seahawksdraftblog site (don’t know if that’s run by one of you). Just wondering, he’s my favorite Trojan with Woods so I really would root for him wherever he went, except against the Rams of course, though that doesn’t do me any good nowadays.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
You don't live up to your name.
Rob Staton runs seahawksdraftblog— he may visit this site, but he never posts here. Rob has shown some good analytical skills as a scout, and also gets inside intel, so even though at times it seems he gets paid by the word we still read him a lot. He has been ahead of the curve a bit with Barkley and makes a strong case for him.
Bottom line, I think anybody here would have been thrilled with Barkley, but we never thought we had much of a shot at him once he moved into the top ten and we moved out.
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
Ahh,
I always felt the Seahawks were building for next year. Every offseason move seemed to indicate it with Miller and Rice to make life easier for a franchise QB. I wouldn’t have minded Barkley in this situation as a USC fan. Surprised TJ has been a lot better than I thought he’d be, and Lynch is back to beast mode.
"Vick’s 100x the player Warner was.
Desean’s not quite at Holts level.
McCoy’s giving Faulk a run for his money.
Maclin’s better than Bruce.
Warner never took over games."
Signed, wild_eagle - the most delusional person in the entire universe.
I had no idea that I've been a fan of such a douche bag.
Take your melodrama news conference and shove it up your ass Barkley.
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by Clendy on Dec 22, 2011 5:51 PM PST reply actions 5 recs
Thank you.
That type of comment was long overdue.
On second though Nate dogg probably beat you to the punch. I think he called him out before the decision was made public.
by brugg on Dec 22, 2011 6:47 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Nope, wasn't me.
I don’t have a problem with the press conference.
by Nate Dogg on Dec 22, 2011 7:42 PM PST via Android app up reply actions
Then I have a problem with YOU, SIR.
"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)
by Johnny Slick on Dec 22, 2011 7:59 PM PST up reply actions
Fuck it...
TRADE EVERYTHING FOR LUCK!!!!!!!!!!!
"You are the molders of their dreams." - Clark Mollenhoff
I say we draft a QB in every round
And sign Boomer Esiason in the offseason. Like buying lots of Lotto tickets, it should increase our chances of hitting the jackpot! Right? ….
by Brendan O'Leary on Dec 22, 2011 7:28 PM PST reply actions
this will go down as the worst draft
i have a feeling there’s alot of hidden gems this draft and we will get them. if there’s no qb available we need better depth all over the place on the defensive side of the house. a rotating def line. a formidable and quality lb, cb’s and de is definitely a need. clemons is one ankle tweak away from showing how weak we are at getting after the qb.
i think in this order if available depending on the best player available
de
qb
lb
dt
Looking at the updated mock drafts
Seems like everyone thinks we will just reach for a QB like Tannehill or Jones now. I really dont see that happening. We have a lot of other areas to address. PC and JS proved last year that they wont reach for a QB if he’s not the right guy for them, passing on Dalton, Kaepernick, Mallett, etc.
Yeah... they got slammed by the media for not reaching for a QB last year. I just don't see Schneider caving into pressure like that this year.
The thing is, drafting Landry Jones or Tannehill 15th doesn’t make them NFL-ready quarterbacks any more than drafting a punter in the 1st round makes that a good move.
"It's okay to have an open mind, just not so open that your brains fall out." - Carl Sagan (well, a lot of guys)
by Johnny Slick on Dec 23, 2011 9:58 AM PST up reply actions
Is there any correlation
between Barkley not entering the draft, and RGIII entering / not entering?
It was just intense, and it was ball, and it was juice. The juice level in that room was high, and it was awesome.
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