Larry Grant, What Are You Doing?
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Dec 24, 2011 10:57 PM PST
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PrintDisclaimer: Save your 4chan memes for your own backsides... yes I'm mad. I'm mad as hell. I already have an irrational hatred of everything 49er, though admittedly it has only come around since we moved to the NFC West. I didn't care that the God Damned Lions wouldn't roll over and die to help aid our chances at the postseason. Sure, by halftime we were realistically done trying to compete for the postseason. Ergo, this game didn't matter much for that. Win or lose, we were done. Our longshot at the playoffs ended on the backs of impotent Bolts. Thanks assholes.
But I still didn't want to lose this game. You don't want to admit it, but we had your asses pinned to the wall and worried back in week one. Couple of fluke Ted Ginn Jr. maneuvers and that game was toast. Whatever, though. This time I was sure we had you. I still think we did for a while. But my Seahawks apparently didn't want to win, squandering points and screwing up in key moments. So whatever. Hat tip to you mother fuckers. I hope you choke in the postseason.
But, honestly, that isn't what I'm mad about. No. I'm trying to figure out what the fuck was going through Larry Grant's mind after he forced a key turnover late in the game. I'll show you why after the jump
By this point, unless you're blind or stupid, you can probably guess what it is I'm irritated about. Let me again disclaim that I absolutely respect the play of the 49ers, especially today. That defense is as good as advertised and their game plan worked to perfection. We lost today's game and the 49ers won today's game. Sure, I can kvetch about Tarvaris Jackson all I want, but it wont do any good in the long run. This may not have actually sealed the Seahawks hopes, but this is one heck of an individual effort:
Tarvaris Jackson was asking to be stripped from behind. You fought back from whiffing badly on your blitz to hit Jackson from behind and knock the ball loose. The ball rolled forward and was eventually recovered by one of your teammates. Though the Seahawks had 3 time outs left and would use them on the ensuing 49er drive, their current bid at getting into field goal range for the win was dashed. Dashed by you. On a great play.
You deserve all the credit in the world for making a phenomenal game saving effort.
But what the hell is this? Did you plan this? According to something one of the announcers might have said during the game, and you'll forgive me if I wasn't really paying attention to that pair of dolts giving some pretty bad play by play, you might have had this planned. Okay, so you rustled up the fat kid from Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, gave him a Crabtree jersey and bought a ticket for him to sit in the first row at Century Link Field. First things first... thanks for the business. I am happy that you helped Paul Allen continue to make a profit off the Seahawks. Typically fans are cynical that players don't try to give back to the community, and so it is nice to see someone prove all those doubters wrong.
But really, what part of this seemed appropriate to you? Maybe you're just not knowledgeable on everything Seahawk. I can understand that. Hell, if I played in San Francisco and had to worry about hundreds of naked Santa Clauses around Christmastime, I might not have my priorities set for an upcoming opponent and the nuances of it's players either. I'm just here to tell you, Larry, that you screwed up here a bit. Let me help you:
This is Tarvaris Jackson. You probably don't know much about him since he played in Minnesota for a few years before coming to Seattle. Heck, up until today, I myself didn't realize his first name was spelled "TaRvaris" instead of "Tavaris". The things you find out when you're searching the internet looking for a picture of the guy in order to make this FanPost. You'll probably recognize this picture well since he's holding that football out and away from his body, just primed for someone to come up behind him and club the football out of his hands. Now that I think about it, you probably studied pictures like this one. Maybe you're more aware of Mr. Jackson than I thought.
Anyway, moving on:
This is Marshawn Lynch. Now I know you know about this guy. Or, if you didn't before today's game, you surely do now. Mr. Lynch came to us from Buffalo, where he had a so-so career. Heck, with us he wasn't doing much until the mid part of this season, and since then has scored a touchdown in every game he's played and rushed for over a thousand yards. Today he rushed for 107 yards, making him the first back in 36 games to hit triple digits against you and your defense. The last guy to do it was Ryan Grant of the Packers, so you know he's in good company. But that wasn't the only streak he ended that your defense was proud of today, is it? But we'll get to that.
The main thing I want to point out here is that Marshawn Lynch is the guy who celebrates with a bag of Skittles after a rushing touchdown. This tradition started with his mother when he was in high school, and it has carried over to the big time. When it was shown on a nationally televised game, on NFL Network no less, a sensation took off! Marshawn Lynch and Skittles! It was awesome! So awesome that Mars offered him a two-year supply of Skittles and a custom dispenser for his locker. Marshawn Lynch and Skittles!
Not Tarvaris Jackson... and Skittles.
MARSHAWN LYNCH... and Skittles!
So I have to wonder... why were you mocking the touchdown celebration of Marshawn Lynch when it was Tarvaris Jackson that you made a key play against? I went back and watched that play you made several times and, well nothing about you and Marshawn Lynch showed up at all. In fact, Marshawn is busy blocking the talented and awesome Ahmad Brooks. You had a free shot at Tarvaris, missed, and came back and made a great play. Again, not trying to take anything away from you there. But if you'd have schooled Marshawn on an attempted block of your blitz, I might understand why you decided to try to show him up by taking a shot at his touchdown celebration. But there's really nothing there. You just decided to mock Marshawn Lynch's touchdown celebration.
I mean... you decided to do that, after this happened:
Here's the start of the play. This is the first play from scrimmage after the blocked punt late in the 4th quarter. You know the one. Anyway, I'm sure you already know what happens here because you were there, but I want to walk you back through the steps so that I can make my point clear about your mockery of Marshawn Lynch being stupid as hell. In case you can't see it, and I do apologize for my crappy screen grabs, that's Marshawn 8 yards behind the line of scrimmage there. You are standing directly ahead of him, almost on the goal line.
The ball is hiked and Marshawn gets the handoff, running to his left. You moved forward a couple of yards but spotted the play immediately and head towards Lynch, taking a good route and building up speed. You're completely unblocked because rookie WR Ricardo Lockette is supposed to come in and crack block you to free Lynch on the outside. He misses, because you're just too fast. Paras Haralson breaks free of his block, but Marshawn is already mostly out of his range. It is just you and Lynch.
You got him! This would be the first of two outstanding game changing plays you've made today. Marshawn Lynch would be tackled for a two yard loss and the Seahawks would face a second down and goal back beyond the five yard line. Most importantly, your defense's streak of not allowing a rushing touchdown would extend to sixteen games! You personally would be heralded as the protector of the streak!
Oh wait...
That didn't happen, did it?
So what happened, Larry? Were you vexed by Marshawn Lynch doing the Beast Mode and shrugging you off like a Pop Warner placekicker? Was that why you felt the need to mock the Skittles celebration, even though you did absolutely NOTHING to Marshawn Lynch himself that would allow you to freely step all over his beloved candy goodness? You weren't satisfied by making the key play to secure the win? You weren't satisfied that your team is going to the postseason? You weren't satisfied by defeating a division rival on the road in a tough stadium to play in? You just had to mock Marshawn Lynch despite being absolutely owned by Marshawn Lynch? Who do you think you are? Terrell Owens?
You made a great play against Tarvaris Jackson. That gives you the right to mock Tarvaris Jackson. That gives you the right to celebrate on his behalf. That gives you the right to mock Seattle in general if you want. But you mocked Marshawn Lynch, and had no reason to do so. You went beyond your allowed gloating rights. Bad form, sir. Bad form.
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Yeah, I'm shaking my head about this too.
I loathe to use the extremely tired phrase “stay classy,” but that’s really the only thing I can think of.
Excellent post.
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Of course we are the only ones who will notice this
the announcers (and I’m sure the has-beens and wanna-bes on ESPN) will be more than happy to find this perfectly acceptable.
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by Wayward Llama on Dec 25, 2011 4:30 AM PST up reply actions
the second I saw that picture
I knew he had a shirt on that said “5 rings”
by Hancock.Brett on Dec 25, 2011 5:37 PM PST up reply actions
I live in San Francisco for a few years
And I’ll tell you, I saw guys who looked just like that every single day.
Born and raised in Seattle, 7 in NYC, 6 in the bay
Trust me, Seattle has an uglier population. One of the first things in my mind after getting off the plane three times a year.
Emerald City Funk Machine
by blackvanilla on Dec 27, 2011 3:47 PM PST up reply actions
I've always found the Seattle women excellent.
Then again, I am 21 years old and not so humble. Kind of a D bag actuallly…
Anyways.
by Neonjerseysplease on Dec 31, 2011 2:01 PM PST up reply actions
This is amazing.
Thank you so much for summing this all up. The build-up was epic, especially since I was pretty sure I knew where it was going. By the time I got to the picture of Grant tumbleweeding away down the field and Marshawn headed for his Skittles, I was literally laughing out loud.
Again, props, my man.
by Matt Erickson on Dec 25, 2011 5:25 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
I should probably admit about this point that I was never as mad about this as the post
makes me seem. I was actually more mad about losing to the 49ers. When I saw it initially on TV I cocked my head to one side in confusion, for the reasons I stated above. I didn’t understand how mocking Marshawn Lynch was appropriate to making a huge play on Tarvaris Jackson. I basically had that as the central theme, with the Lynch touchdown as the key. But, I did not know before starting this that Grant was the one who whiffed the tackle on Lynch during that touchdown run. And even then it took me twenty or so rewatches of the run to make sure I was seeing what I thought I was seeing. That’s when the whole thing got really fucking funny to me.
As I was putting the post together, you can almost tell by my writing towards the end there, that whatever irritation I had over losing to the Niners was subsiding. So, while I made this post to entertain, and to point out a very humorous piece of behavior on the part of Larry Grant, it was also cathartic.
Glad you guys enjoyed it.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Dec 25, 2011 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, that definitely came through, and I know exactly how it feels.
It was spot-on, and cathartic to read as well. Again I say, well done, sir. :)
by Matt Erickson on Dec 26, 2011 10:28 AM PST up reply actions
Are you the same TIF from the Mariners blog on Seattle Times?
If so, I’ve always been a fan of yours…
Sorry, not Seattle Times, but the Mariners message boards on the Mariners website
by SeahawksPhan on Dec 25, 2011 9:50 AM PST up reply actions
Yessir, same dude.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Dec 25, 2011 2:37 PM PST up reply actions
PNW sports slut.
I’m not mocking you, we share the same disease…
"Now I'm tired of this s---. I'm sick and f------ tired of an 8-10 record. I'm f------ tired of losing to Purdue. I'm not here to f--- around this week. Now you may be, but I'm not." -- Bobby Knight, circa 1992
by Tyler Jorgensen on Dec 30, 2011 6:14 PM PST up reply actions
True true.
I very rarely venture off SB nation anymore, and am banned at USSM. This happened after a dust up with Graham when he was a mod (is he still? i don’t know) about the merits of the Mariners picking up Delmon Young. As I recall, I was ridiculed for assuming the then 22/23 year old would ever develop power and become a decent hitter and then in the back and forth I reacted unfavorably toward Graham’s snarky brit style.
So you wont see my name there anymore… but yeah, you see the same faces, different places.
"Now I'm tired of this s---. I'm sick and f------ tired of an 8-10 record. I'm f------ tired of losing to Purdue. I'm not here to f--- around this week. Now you may be, but I'm not." -- Bobby Knight, circa 1992
by Tyler Jorgensen on Dec 30, 2011 9:59 PM PST up reply actions
And I didn't get an invite... shocking.
Heheh. Just a joke. I wish him well, even if he and I essentially never saw eye to eye on anything, from player evaluation to how to communicate with someone who disagrees with you.
"Now I'm tired of this s---. I'm sick and f------ tired of an 8-10 record. I'm f------ tired of losing to Purdue. I'm not here to f--- around this week. Now you may be, but I'm not." -- Bobby Knight, circa 1992
by Tyler Jorgensen on Dec 31, 2011 2:09 AM PST up reply actions
Anyone notice we have all our good seasons when we have blue endzones?
by DetectiveM on Dec 25, 2011 11:26 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Better than 08 and 09
Do or do not, there is no try-Yoda
by ironheart777 on Dec 25, 2011 1:47 PM PST up reply actions
But you know, mocking the other team's touchdown theme MAKES YOU A MAN!
It’s okay, I know you all thought I was Jim Harbaugh for a minute there. Let me assure you that I’m not.
(They really said it on the postgame show on 710. The whole organization is classless. And it starts at the top with that Harbaugh character, who JUMPS UP AND DOWN ON THE SIDELINE WHENEVER A CALL DOESN’T GO HIS WAY AND GIVES THE REF AN EARFUL WHILE FLAILING HIS ARMS AND MAKING POUTY FACES)
Always good to have a reminder of how insecure Seattle fans are.
by Nate Dogg on Dec 25, 2011 12:27 PM PST reply actions 7 recs
Do you have any idea how stupid that sounds?
Look around the sports world and you will see examples of insecure fans everywhere. Red Sox (Before they won their first World Series in 80 years) and Cubs fans are some of the more apparent ones but they are certainly not the only ones.
Merry Christmas!
Have you, like, signed a contract that delineates you as the person to rain on everyone's parade? :)
When I read your comment, I thought it was a trolling Niners fan, and I couldn’t believe it when I saw it was you!
This article was freaking hilarious, and as TIF explained above, it was borne out of his realization of the irony that Grant was almost single-handedly responsible for allowing their streak to end by whiffing horrendously on Beast Mode, yet then he chose to mock the celebration that is now nationally associated with the Seahawks running back.
If anything, Grant represented the insecurity of the Niners, in that they couldn’t just let it go, but had to lash out and mock it somehow to make themselves feel better.
Happy Holidays, Nate Dogg :)
by Matt Erickson on Dec 26, 2011 10:34 AM PST up reply actions 5 recs
Yes, Grant was the one who couldn't just let it go and had to lash out and mock it somehow to make himself feel better.
That’s not at all what is happening in this post. Grant made a huge play that helped beat the Seahawks at home and dash their playoff hopes. He used Skittles, something that’s become a Seattle fans have embraced, in his celebration to rub it in a little. End of story, take your medicine, move on.
[Passive aggressive holiday wishes go here]
by Nate Dogg on Dec 26, 2011 10:58 AM PST up reply actions 6 recs
This is only gonna devolve into a debate of semantics, so I'll just drop it.
I want to let you know, though, that I wasn’t intending to be passive-aggressive. The holiday wishes were sincere. :)
Even though we’re in the middle of disagreements on a number of fronts, I’m not going to lose sight of the fact that we’re on the same side, I respect your opinion and analysis, and I definitely appreciate your contributions to Field Gulls. You’ve been around a lot longer than I have. I have always enjoyed healthy (and sometimes unhealthy) debate, and that can get me in trouble at times, but I just wanted to let you know that I never intend for it to get personal.
SEA!
by Matt Erickson on Dec 26, 2011 11:23 AM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Is this a very circumspect way of saying he's right but you don't want to hear it
Because he is.
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by Thomas Beekers on Dec 27, 2011 5:55 AM PST up reply actions
If there's one thing I hate about Seattle fans, it's the constant starving for self-validation.
“Well, if that darn East Coast media won’t talk about us, we’ll overcompensate! EVERYONE HATES US! SOUTH ALASKA AGAINST THE WORLD! FUCK BILL LEAVY!”
You know I love you Matt, but this is a legitimate problem in the fandom. People don’t feel it’s enough to simply love the Seahawks, they want to make everyone else love the Seahawks.
Plus we pretend we're unique
But about 3/4th of all NFL franchises at any one time are being ignored or snubbed by the media. That’s because mainstream media can only focus on so many teams at one time. “Storied” franchises have a leg up, but the best way to get the media’s attention is simply to be good.
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by Thomas Beekers on Dec 28, 2011 4:15 AM PST up reply actions
Is that what you think this article is about, overcompensation? Lack of media exposure?
I just don’t get that out of this article. Which part am I missing?
He's responding to Matt, not the article.
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by Thomas Beekers on Dec 28, 2011 6:42 AM PST up reply actions
I guess this subthread is losing me.
Forgive my confusion.
Seemed to me Benne is agreeing with Nate Dogg about insecure Seattle fans, and expanding on it with those points. If it has nothing to do with the article, then I’ve lost the thread of this conversation and how it has anything to do with this post.
In general, I’d agree that Seattle fans have some of those problems. I just don’t see how that connects to what we’re talking about.
I liked the article, mostly because it was tongue-in-cheek, consistent with TIF's style.
The comments, not so much.
Gotta admit, some of these are kind of baffling me. But I'm an attention whore so...
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Dec 31, 2011 3:32 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I suppose I've gotta agree with you, Benne
I guess my perspective with my original comment wasn’t so much that the OP was fully justified in his rant, but more that it seemed pretty obvious it was to blow off steam, and use facetious anger to make a funny post and point out an ironic fact while ‘standing up’ for the sanctity of Marshawn’s personal little celebration with a show of faux indignation. Wow that was a long sentence.
I didn’t take it to be especially serious (only my perspective) and found it quite clever and funny. Then I scrolled down and saw Nate Dogg’s passive-aggressive jab that seemed to throw a bit of a rain cloud on an otherwise funny and pleasant thread, and it kinda irked me, and I thought I’d throw a little jab back, as good-naturedly as I could.
Anyways, it’s all good and I really appreciate the contributions of everyone in this conversation. Now I’ll retreat to my hole and continue being “insular, sensitive, self-loathing and overly defensive about fucking everything.” :)
by Matt Erickson on Dec 28, 2011 4:27 PM PST up reply actions
Hey now.
My comment wasn’t passive aggressive. It was a bit snide, but it was a pretty direct criticism.
It came across this way:
I understand now, though, where you were coming from, so it’s all good :)
by Matt Erickson on Dec 28, 2011 4:55 PM PST up reply actions
I fucking hate the niners and their shit ass fans. Their fucking douche bag coach...
their fucking classless assistants and players. I hate them all. I know that’s a strong word or whatever. But ‘extreme dislike’ could never come close to the venomous, vile feelings have related to that organization. May they be trounced from the playoffs early and in an embarrasing fashion for the entire to nation to witness and heap scorn upon their very beings. Inserting AGGRESSIVE Christmas tidings here: NinerNation and more importantly the 49’ers themselves, Merry fucking Christmas you peices of worthless trash. May the season bring you heartache and NO Superbowl you pieces of holy shit…Amen.
by AZ Hawk on Dec 26, 2011 11:57 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
And...we're breathing.
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
by shams on Dec 26, 2011 12:30 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Yes, 49ers fans are trash.
Because they cheer and chant while a player on the opposing team is hurt, right?
"If the 49ers success offends you, so be it." - Jim Harbaugh
If you order a "Cowboys kicker" at the bar, you get a shot of iced Bailey's.
No. Just 'cause. =)
Most of my cliches aren't original.
- Chuck Knox
by Azimeir on Dec 26, 2011 9:20 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh for fucks sake
they were cheering because they thought there was a fumble on the play.
Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair or fucking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. - Al Swearengen
by Lo Pann on Dec 26, 2011 10:55 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I don't believe that.
It was a good 10+ seconds after the play was over and could clearly see Kyle not moving when they started cheering and chanting “Seahawks, Seahawks.”
"If the 49ers success offends you, so be it." - Jim Harbaugh
If you order a "Cowboys kicker" at the bar, you get a shot of iced Bailey's.
RE: "I don't believe that."
Seahawks fans aren’t like that and never have been like that. But since you’re set in your ways, this discussion is over.
Fans are typically idiots.
by The Typical Idiot Fan on Dec 27, 2011 2:08 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
We're devastated.
"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."
by shams on Dec 27, 2011 2:21 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Then there's nothing I can do for you.
I’ll just chalk it up to someone being wrong and on the internet.
Pain or damage don't end the world. Or despair or fucking beatings. The world ends when you're dead. Until then, you got more punishment in store. Stand it like a man... and give some back. - Al Swearengen
Ditto.
"If the 49ers success offends you, so be it." - Jim Harbaugh
If you order a "Cowboys kicker" at the bar, you get a shot of iced Bailey's.
you're doing a bang up job of presenting a great image of seahawks fans
glad all of them aren’t like you. Stay classy.
by Andrew9erfan on Dec 26, 2011 9:59 PM PST up reply actions
This is a Seahawks blog dude. It's not like I went trolling your blog stating this shit.
If you’ve got a problem with this thread or my post in particular stay the fuck out of here. I’ll state this again so even you can understand it, this a SEAHAWKS blog. PS, there is something called sarcasm and if you can’t detect that there is truly no hope for you.
by AZ Hawk on Dec 26, 2011 10:55 PM PST up reply actions 6 recs
good thing you don't over react
I enjoy talking to fans of other teams, others do too. This is nothing new. I think you need to work on your anger issues.
by Andrew9erfan on Dec 27, 2011 6:20 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I am not going to apologize for having passion for the team I love...
and creating a post for the fans of the Seahawks on a Seahawks blog following a loss to a hated divisional rival in a crucial game. While I can appreciate your praise of our teams toughness, yada, yada, if you have a problem with that I don’t give a shit. The fact that this bothers you to any degree just proves my point regarding the kind of fans that the 49ers have.
by AZ Hawk on Dec 27, 2011 11:48 AM PST up reply actions 4 recs
also, props to you guys and lynch in particular
Really tough team and lynch impressed me breaking 100 yards against us.
by Andrew9erfan on Dec 27, 2011 6:27 AM PST up reply actions
Except he's right.
Seattle fans are known for being insular, sensitive, self-loathing and overly defensive about fucking everything. Every ref is out to get us. The media conspire to marginalize us. Free agents spur us. We we we, us us us.
Wouldn’t other fans get really annoyed at hearing that from us constantly?
by Benne on Dec 27, 2011 8:46 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Benne I am a big fan of your posts for this blog.
Field Gulls owes you alot for how well you kept this place alive after Morgans departure and prior to Danny taking over. But in regards to this thread and the situation at hand, I must completely and respectfully disagree with you. I expect when visiting another blog for an opposing team to read many comments that are adversarial in nature and filled with loathing towards my team or my fandom. Scroll some old NinerNation posts and I’m sure you’ll find many, many posts dissing the Hawks or the 12thman. I just can’t understand getting my undies in a wrinkle over somthing like that when visiting their blog, why should we have to be any different? I just do not care what other fans think of Seahawks fans because this blog is for us not them. You speak of the self loathing and sensitivity we as Hawks fans display, and in my opinion worrying about how others view us just plays into that mindset even more. I don’t think any poster over at NinersNation gives two shits what we think of them so why would we care what they think of us? This thread and my posts were clearly intended to be tongue and cheek and a reaction to my personal disappointment about this last game. If the tables were turned and a Niners fan posted something like this in THEIR blog, I would take it as a compliment instead of getting pissy about it.
I don't worry about how other view us
I worry about how we should view us, and being as oversensitive as we are is embarrassing to me, regardless of worrying about how other people feel about it. I don’t care if Steelers fans make fun of us for still whining about XL because fuck Steelers fans, but I roll my eyes at it nonetheless because it’s pretty goddamn stupid.
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by Thomas Beekers on Dec 28, 2011 6:56 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
And I would would agree with you Thomas had I made the above post in a Niners blog.
That would be a classless move. But this is a blog designed for Seahawks fans and this thread was made as a funny way to complain about the outciome of a game and certain instances of annoyance that may bother fans of the team. Why should we be embarrassed for ourselves? Does that not play into the notion that we are an overly sensitive fan base that has reasons to not cheer our team in any way we as individuals feel fit? I don’t believe there is anything wrong with stating our passionate opinions in the safe confines of Field Gulls. If an outside fan comes here and reads things like this and finds it offensive that is their problem not ours. As I said, I did not and would never troll another fans blog making statements like the one I made. That would not be appropriate. But if we can’t vent here where can we go?
i guess i just see a difference between being passionate about your team and being deragitory twords other teams|fans
And I wouldn’t support the same thing by a niner fan about the seahawks. But you’re right, it’s your blog and you can do what you like. It justsuprised me a bit when I read it. But if it was just blowing off steam and I took it the wrong way, then I appologise.
by Andrew9erfan on Dec 28, 2011 11:07 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
The problem is not "caring about what others think of us."
The problem is a lack of self-awareness. Seattle fans have conjured up this myth that the media doesn’t care about us (mostly because Seattle sports usually aren’t, you know, good) and ran with it, creating this inferiority complex with the rest of the league (ignoring the fact that the Seattle market has a stranglehold on the entire Northwest, Alaska, British Columbia and Oregon. In a league where New Jersey is competing for fans, that’s a significant advantage).
And yes, you should absolutely care about what others think of us. Going back to my self-awareness problem, the ability to tell yourself, “I’m being obnoxious, maybe I should tone it down so these guys won’t hate me” is the most underrated aspect of functioning in society. It’s what keeps you from getting kicked out of bars, keeps you on good terms with your family, and generally gives you less drama in life while providing motivation to improve yourself as a person.
If you can’t even apply that motivation to your stupid sports that don’t matter in the real world, how can you apply it to shit that does matter?
It's actually far easier for me personally to apply it in the real world than in sports.
For some reason, I just can’t let XL go, and take it out repeatedly on fans of other teams. I hear what you’re saying, but generally I just don’t care what others think— which is actually quite liberating in and of itself.
"Now I'm tired of this s---. I'm sick and f------ tired of an 8-10 record. I'm f------ tired of losing to Purdue. I'm not here to f--- around this week. Now you may be, but I'm not." -- Bobby Knight, circa 1992
by Tyler Jorgensen on Dec 30, 2011 10:01 PM PST up reply actions
That was 6 years ago.
Usher was a pop-culture phenomenon 6 years ago. The rest of the world has moved on from 2005, except for Seattle fans.
Does it help that the fans of other teams I take it out on are Steelers?
And no, not everyone has moved on…. I mean, c’mon Benne. Not to go political as I know it’s a no-no, but there are absolutely people out there who want us to go back to the 1950’s, or at least the 80’s. Not everyone wants to move forward.
And I’m not stuck in the past, I’m just not going to let it go that we were robbed.
And I guess I missed Usher. But whatever.
"Now I'm tired of this s---. I'm sick and f------ tired of an 8-10 record. I'm f------ tired of losing to Purdue. I'm not here to f--- around this week. Now you may be, but I'm not." -- Bobby Knight, circa 1992
by Tyler Jorgensen on Dec 31, 2011 2:04 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I knew one of them would come in here and say this.
“Stay Classy”
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by Wayward Llama on Dec 27, 2011 4:06 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
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Mmm…indeed.
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by Wayward Llama on Dec 28, 2011 7:24 PM PST up reply actions
No, and I just can't help myself but use the :smug:
It’s so perfect.
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by Wayward Llama on Dec 31, 2011 4:13 AM PST up reply actions
But, I mean, I'm not quite clear here. What do you REALLY feel about the Niners?
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by Tyler Jorgensen on Dec 30, 2011 6:18 PM PST up reply actions
Meh, whatever.
If I wasn’t a Seahawks fan I’d find some amusement in this. Just like I’m sure many here found amusement in opposition mocking Tebow taking a knee.
by BrianL on Dec 26, 2011 12:40 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I'm with you, I didn't care that much.
But the irony pointed out by this post is one that I’d missed (because the power went out at my house) and it’s funny. I don’t feel actually hurt by his actions at all, just the amusement at knowing his role in each of those huge moments.
by cashless on Dec 26, 2011 5:24 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
With such a blatant planned celebration involving a crowd member
I have to think the NFL will fine him – it is a line that the NFL will almost certainly want to draw. I predict those will be the most expensive Skittles ever, with like a 900000% markup (assuming they were purchased outside the stadium for 75cents).
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Good post
The you vs skittles picture is pretty funny, although it would hurt more if that had cost us the game. My only consolation is Willis should be back in soon.
My only contention…you really think he planned this? Possible…I guess. Probable…seems extremely far fetched. Far more likely that the fan had planned to bring his skittles in hopes of a shut down Lynch day (which didn’t happen) and was able to get Grant’s attention for a little celebration.
I can see why you found it irritating since it’s against your team, but this stuff is harmless and typically amusing when not on your team (i.e. people doing Favre’s belt thingy).
by mrg80 on Dec 27, 2011 4:05 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Like I said above in a comment, I'm not that irritated by it.
Do I think he planned this? I don’t know. If he did plan this on a day when Marshawn Lynch was quite successful against the 49ers defense, it would be more hilarious. But I don’t think he did. I think it was a spur of the moment thing. I’m guessing the 49er fan was a local who knew about the blossoming Seahawk fan obsession with Skittles and HE probably brought them planning to mock his fellow fans, but I don’t think Larry Grant had anything to do with it. The fan must have got his attention, which is why Larry didn’t immediately go over and perform the "planned’ celebration. Typically when you see other players plan something, they pull it off right away when they know the cameras are still on them. TO never delayed on his touchdown celebrations, neither did Chad Johnson. So, it feels spur of the moment to me.
Honestly, the farther I get removed from the game, with more time to think things over in my head, the more I think maybe I shouldn’t have posted this. Hell, by the end of writing this all my rage over losing, and Tarvaris Jackson fumbling, was mostly gone.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on Dec 27, 2011 12:24 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe he just knows Skittles are delicous and pushed Bowman out the way to hog them
If the article helped you blow off the steam, then purpose served IMO.
Are you kidding? I think this post is hilarious. Yes, we're upset our team lost, but we get some consolotation in knowing Marshawn broke both the 49er streaks.
The fact that Grant was the one who let Lynch score makes his celebration completely hilarious to me. I’m really glad you pointed it out, honestly, and I don’t think it was mean-spirited.
by HititHere on Dec 28, 2011 12:26 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
That was exactly my reaction.
Figured the fan brought it thinking the Niners could shut down Lynch, and then opportunity presented itself to use them at the end.
Don’t think many of us think it’s irritating.
Far fetched?
You think that a player is going to stand there and let some random fan dump skittles God-knows-what into their face while they are bellowing on the sideline.
Yes, this player just happened to run over to that exact spot (right behind the Niners bench) and start doing his little act and then stood there while the fan dumped skittles on him.
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by Wayward Llama on Dec 29, 2011 4:17 AM PST up reply actions
No, he doesn't ran to a random spot in the stadium filled with Seahawks fans.
He runs to 49ers fans, and in that context when the skittles start raining he knows where their coming from and hangs in there taking a skittles shower. I see Patrick Willis (not healthy) or a Vernon Davis, or Michael Crabtree setting up a pre-celebration. But Larry Grant? He thinks he’s going to make a game-altering play and has this all set up?
Which brings on another question for me. What if our fans start throwing skittles at opposing coaches, players, etc? I could see this going sour (not flavored skittles) at some point and then we could be getting a negative reputation.
Dunno about Willis.
He seems like one of the only Niners players with any semblance of class and humility. As far as the Skittles thing goes, it’s probably only a matter of time before the league says something. No Fun and all that.
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by Wayward Llama on Dec 30, 2011 9:24 AM PST up reply actions
I really couldn't give a crap less about how he chooses to celebrate a game-winning play
Fuck the No Fun League policies, it’s an enormously important if shockingly easy play (thanks T-Jax), he has the right to celebrate as he wishes. I did enjoy you going back to watching him stumble against Beast Mode though.
That said, apropos, I tweeted shortly before the fumble that the run game “embarrassed” the 49ers defense in a surprising manner, because you know, that’s what actually happened. Then T-Jax fumbled, and some 49er fan started trolling me with “who got embarrassed bro!?” Larry Grant is basically acting the same way. Unrelated play after his defense got smooshed, and he acts like it somehow impacts the smooshed status, when it really doesn’t. I just blocked the Niners fan though, like I’ll block getting frustrated by Grant.
What I enjoy most out of this is how easy Niners fans (and players) are making it to hate them. It’s good for the rivalry.
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See, this is kind of how I felt about it. More confused by the audacity than angered by it.
I was still seething that Tarvaris Jackson didn’t know to tuck the damned ball against his body when scrambling. But, I suppose even Tiki Barber took a few years to learn how to secure the rock, so I can’t fault someone whose primary purpose isn’t dashing between yard lines too heavily.
Here’s my take on the Skittles , though… this isn’t a Seattle thing. It’s a Marshawn Lynch thing. He’s been doing this before he became a Seahawk. Why nobody noticed it until now is anybody’s guess. Seattle fans have embraced it for a couple of reasons: 1). it’s funny as hell and 2). a lot of Seattle fans probably think Lynch is about the ONLY thing going for the Seahawks. I chalk the second up to casual fans not being aware we have a lot of awesome and young players developing before their eyes, and they can’t see the forest for the trees.
And yet, the Skittles thing wouldn’t stay if Lynch leaves. It’s not like we’re going to be dumping Skittles on Justin Forsett next year if he scores when Lynch is no longer on the team. It’s an identity not with the team, the city, or the fans really, it’s just with Marshawn Lynch. At least that’s how I see it.
As for mocking other’s celebrations, I find that unsportsmanlike, honestly. It’s one thing for TO to grab some pom-poms and pretend to be a cheerleader. It’s another for him to kneel on the Dallas Star. While both might be intended to show up the opposing team, one is just him acting a clown while the other is deliberately stepping on the other team’s traditions and history. To me, one carries a specific connotation of making it personal with the opposing team and the fans, whereas the other is harmless entertainment.
Though, as I said in a reply above to mrg80, I don’t think this was a planned event by Grant himself. If anything, that 49er fan is responsible and needs to be hung from the 12th Man pole.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on Dec 27, 2011 12:33 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I understand the mocking other celebrations = unsportsmanlike.
At the same time, celebrations are often unsportsmanlike in a pure sense of the word, and the NFL has turned them into a thing. Which is why celebrating or mocking doesn’t get to me.
You’re right about the Skittle thing, but holding a fan responsible for something that’s unsportsmanlike in such an unimportant and spontaneous situation is silly. Fans are stupid in general. Plenty of fans in every stadium, including ours, do stuff that most of us would be ashamed of, but we don’t own that behavior. Grant went to some 49er fans and celebrated. A fan did something that didn’t really do anything but celebrate. Is it any different than if he had a sign about skittles that was against the Seahawks? Cause fans do signs about other team or player traditions all the time that “deliberately step on other team’s traditions and history.”
I say if a fan is the one responsible, what can you do?
Good points
It’s also form of flattery. That’s half the reason it’s funny when people do Rodgers belt thingy, especially when you’re wondering, who the heck is this guy going nutso with his 1st sack of the year?
He doesn’t even know about the Skittles if he doesn’t know that Lynch is a bad ass player.
I was kidding about harming the 49er fan.
Well kinda. Is a good stiff wedgie out of line?
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on Dec 28, 2011 4:57 AM PST up reply actions
I know you were.
But since you’d already got to the point where it was really just the one fan, I just finished the line of thought.
Right
Enjoyed the writeup by the way. Nice stream of consciousness feel.
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by Thomas Beekers on Dec 28, 2011 4:14 AM PST up reply actions
Talking about fan's actions.
It was not pleasant to hear the stadium chanting while medical personal was attending to injured Kyle Williams.
But let me guess, that is totally excusable, right?
Oh, whatever, talk to you guys next year.
Except that didn't actually happen.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on Dec 28, 2011 9:15 PM PST up reply actions
It happened, but it didn't have anything to do with the injury.
It was ill timed, but the crowd often does the Seahawks chants after scrums and Seattle had just scored a go ahead touchdown.
Don't forget the fumble
The live crowd didn’t know that the hit was illegal and with the refs decision taking a few minutes thought maybe we would have the ball.
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It really does suck sometimes how in the "interest of getting the call right" refs can stand there forever not deciding on a flag.
The fans don’t know what their going to call, they don’t have announcers talking about it like people at home.
You are pretty clearly a troll at this point.
If I see this again, you are gone.
Embarrassed?
17 points after a gift at the 4 yard line isn’t exactly mauling our D. Lynch had a good day, though, but nothing earth shattering except for the fact that we’ve been stingy all year.
I didn't say the entire offense performed well
With 3/5th of our line missing, Lynch, who has always been heavy on TFLs, got to 100 yards and a TD with relative ease. If I were a Niner fan, I’d be worried and trying to analyze how this happened, just like I’m curious about our own run D. But I’m not a homer by nature.
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by Thomas Beekers on Dec 27, 2011 2:25 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Beekers already hit the relevent points.
The way we ran is pretty much mission accomplished, in that we respect your run D and by the end of the first half hit pretty much had hit some of our more cautiously optimistic goals. The TD was the icing, but even without it our run game was night and day different from the beginning of the year, and because of the weakness of some of the D’s we’d been running against some of us were not sure it was as legit as the numbers were saying.
Just a matter of perspective, and in this case respect of your D plays into what we take away from the performance.
It's kind of a one-time only celebration. Good on the 49er fans for their creativity
The Seahawk fans are all cracking up in that picture, in spite of the fact that the Seahawks probably just lost the game.
Anti-Lynch skittle celebrations after this will fall flat.
While it’s funny that Grant was the one who blew the TD and yardage for the 49er D, it’s even funnier that 49er fans think Willis would have brought Lynch down.
On that TD play?
That’s more or less impossible to say. Certainly would change the changes, I guess, Willis is the best MLB in the NFL.
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by Thomas Beekers on Dec 28, 2011 6:09 PM PST up reply actions
If Willis was playing that same position and diagnosed it as quickly as Grant, does he make the tackle?
I’d think so. But maybe presnap he sees the play going the other way, is two steps in a different direction and gets caught in the scrum. Put Willis in there and there is no way to know.
What makes this play funny is Grant made such a decisive great individual effort to get there and yet he completely blows the tackle. By itself, with no skittles context, it’s a funny play.
Yeah, though I'm picking on Grant here.
Great individual defensive efforts typically only happen when a play breaks down (like what he pulled off later). Before that, it’s about what defensive play is called which sets up something to happen. Like having the two tackles shoot the outside gaps and blitzing a linebacker through the inside gap. The tackles aren’t supposed to do anything but open up a lane, but the linebacker gets the credit. Defenses know that team effort is what wins, not individual efforts.
Same is true of run defense. Player on the edge is supposed to seal the edge to prevent the offensive player from getting outside. That Haralson didn’t meant that Grant had to make a play saving tackle on his own. He shouldn’t have had to do that at all.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on Dec 29, 2011 2:09 PM PST up reply actions
Good... good...
Let the butthurt flow through you…
Seriously? You seriously think it was planned?
I think the whole skittles thing is beyond cheesy. But whatever floats the boat.
You think it's cheesy? Man, you really don't like anything Seahawks
Also, without wanting to imply you don’t have the right to be here, but…why are you still here?
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by Thomas Beekers on Dec 28, 2011 6:10 PM PST up reply actions
I actually liked Seahawks a lot...
…before they hired Pete Carroll. I just can not stand his face ever since the USC days. He makes me puke.
Yes, for full disclosure I did attend Stanford.
Well, sorry.
We kinda like Pete. He and John Schneider turned this ship around.
Boy I sure do miss the good ole days. Aging, overpriced free agents who come here and do nothing, soft, plodding running backs who average 60 yards a game, undersized, pathetically overmatched defenses…..etc.
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by Wayward Llama on Dec 28, 2011 7:22 PM PST up reply actions
So, the fact that he/they brought in Sherman and Baldwin doesn't help?
They are kicking ass by the way.
cheesy skittles?
I know they’ve been making all sorts of new flavors but that sounds kinda gross
by Andrew9erfan on Dec 28, 2011 9:04 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Read the thread comments before responding next time.
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by The Typical Idiot Fan on Dec 28, 2011 9:18 PM PST up reply actions
Oh wait here's a second one.
Goodbye.
by BrianL on Dec 29, 2011 12:44 PM PST up reply actions 4 recs
I'd beg for greenies
but this thread is probably too dead for that.
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