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A Closer Look at Heisman Winning Quarterback Robert Griffin III

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Whenever someone mentions Robert Griffin III, the first thing I think of is looking over to my left and seeing him fly by me with ease when Baylor Football was running sprints at 6 a.m. workouts during the summer of 2010. Granted, I was a 260 lb. tight end, and he was the track star quarterback, but I was still amazed at his freakish fitness level. I was a teammate of RG3 for two seasons at Baylor University. I'm not going to pretend like he's my best friend, but I know him well and we still keep in touch.

My first impression of Robert was that he was a diva. As I spent more time with him, and got to know him better, I realized that my first impression could not have been further from the truth. He is a low-key guy and he is truthful to his personality at all times, no matter who is around him. He likes to wear quirky things - the Superman socks he wore to the Heisman Trophy presentation, pajama pants to morning workouts, or big white shades on top of his forehead. Robert does not shy away from his personality and that was something that I admired as a teammate.

During the 2010 season, I told some of my teammates and friends that one day RG3 would be a first round draft choice as a quarterback. A lot of people thought that was crazy at the time, but after his 2011 Heisman winning campaign, it seems like it is almost set in stone that this will be true (of course, if he declares for the 2012 NFL Draft). As for that question, in my opinion, Robert Griffin III will stay at Baylor University for one more year. He embraces being the face of the university, he is engaged, and he is trying to get a waiver from the NCAA so that he can play football and attend law school classes there.

A few thoughts on the kind of teammate he is - even though I was a walk-on third string tight end, RG3 made sure that I felt like I was a part of the team by playing catch with me and warming up with me before every single practice. He organized voluntary 7-on-7 workouts during the summer. He put together team events like bowling and paintballing on the weekends. He is the unquestioned leader of Baylor football and in my opinion is a superb candidate to be the face of the franchise for an NFL team.

Now, you come to this site to read about the Seahawks and here I am talking about Robert Griffin - why? Griffin has been linked to Seattle in some mocks and just in the general discussion, and I can't lie, it has been a personal dream of mine to one day see him quarterbacking my beloved Seahawks. Naturally, I can be accused of being biased because I personally know RG3, but the fact is, I think that he would be a phenomenal fit with the Seahawks, for a number of reasons. I'll try and lay a few of them out.

It's no secret that Pete Carroll has looked at the quarterback position as kind of a glorified point guard and in a sense, RG3 has been the definition of a point guard for Baylor football. First off, he has a lightning quick release and has a willingness to stand in the pocket and make a clutch throw even if it means he will get blasted by an oncoming defensive player.

As the 'point guard of the offense,' RG3 also takes care of the ball - he simply does not throw interceptions. During his freshman year, he threw only 3 interceptions despite having 267 pass attempts. In 2011, he has only thrown 6 interceptions in 369 pass attempts.

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As far as toughness goes, this is where I see RG3 and Tarvaris Jackson as being similar- both players will take the big hit in order to help the team. Griffin trumps T-Jack with his ability to get rid of the ball quickly, he doesn't take sacks and he has an uncanny ability to sense the pressure in the pocket and extend the play.

Griffin's leadership ability is innate - and I saw in a recent article that Danny put together a quote from John Schneider on the importance of locker room chemistry and what he learned from Packers' GM Ted Thompson on putting together a roster. Schneider said - "You have to have a very good pulse for your team, and constantly be evaluating your team and know who's going to fit and who's not going to fit. I would say one of Ted's biggest strengths and one of the biggest things I've learned from him - because he's a former player - is just the importance of the locker room and team chemistry."

Griffin, as I said above, is an excellent teammate and if you watched any of the Heisman ceremonies you'd have undoubtedly noticed his apparent maturity, level of respect, and confidence shining through.

As for his general ability to play at the next level, one myth that I would like to dispel about RG3 is the idea that he is too short to play in the NFL. I've heard multiple draft analysts question his height and I can concretely say that he is, at minimum, a guaranteed 6'2" - if not closer to 6'3".

Another slight criticism that has been leveled at Griffin is that he will lock onto receivers, especially his main deep threat, Kendall Wright (who is projected to be a late first round or second round NFL draft pick). Wright has nearly double the receptions (103) as Baylor's second leading receiver, Terrance Williams (53). In an effort to push the ball downfield, sometimes he will miss open receivers underneath. However, after the season RG3 just posted, this seems like an easily fixable concern.

I think RG3 will take the NFL by storm (when he finally decides to go pro). My one doubt concerning RG3 would be how well will he pick up a pro system. It's no secret that Baylor runs a spread offense. Griffin receives the play-call from the sidelines and then executes the play. Generally, the only time RG3 will audible is if he sees an opening in the defense that calls for a quick run play with bruising power back Terrance Ganaway.

Head Coach Art Briles and RG3 spend lots of time in meeting rooms together figuring out what plays Griffin likes against the next opponent. On game day, Griffin has immense influence on the play calls. If he tells the coaching staff he likes a certain play, then the Baylor offense will certainly run that play for him. Griffin's ability to improvise led Baylor to a win over Oklahoma this year when he moved around in the pocket and threw across his body for a 34 yard touchdown to Terrance Williams with 8 seconds left in the game.

At the end of the day, I think RG3 will naturally pick up the pro system once he gets to the NFL. Despite the spread offense that Baylor runs, RG3 understands how to move the chains and he is remarkably intelligent. With NFL coaching and film study he will learn the nuances of a pro system and he will flourish because of his quick release, arm strength, and his mind for the game.

Ultimately, RG3's football savvy, freakish athleticism, and quick-strike throwing ability are why I think he'll succeed in the NFL. He is the type of dynamic football player that can carry a team and he is the type of person that can inspire and lead a locker room. And, if you were wondering, (because you are likely a Seahawks fan if you're reading this today), if RG3 were to one day become a Seahawk, I have no doubt that Seattle would be contending for a Super Bowl with him at the helm.

I'm Daniel Hill, and I'll be doing some writing here at Field Gulls. I'm looking forward to talking some football with you Twelves.

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Great write-up

It comes off a little biased, but I’m actually not opposed to that, haha. I’m a big RG3 fan, but it’s cool to get some first-hand perspective of the guy. Very encouraging.

Would love to get your take (in a future post) on other Baylor prospects (Kendall Wright jumps to mind).

by Chris Sully on Dec 28, 2011 8:27 AM PST reply actions  

There's bias and there's bias

and bias that comes out of knowing someone is not a bad thing — especially when it directly applies, as here (bias toward RG3 as a football player as a result of having been one of his teammates). Great piece, Daniel, and many thanks.

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by The Ancient Mariner on Dec 28, 2011 8:50 AM PST up reply actions  

As long as you make your bias clear as you present your opinion -- it is perfectly acceptable.

It’s when people have hidden agendas that things become murky and less than ideal.

Very well written and informative. Thanks for your perspective!

by fender on Dec 29, 2011 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Welcome Daniel

Excellent article. Especially coming with first hand knowledge. I also would love to see Mr. Griffin take the Seahawks helm. I live n Big 12 country right now and saw/heard alot about him this year. If he comes out, I don’t think he falls to the mid teens and I hope the Hawks wouldn’t sell the farm to trade up. If he stays (which I think all college kids should stay 3-4 years), I don’t see him coming to Seattle unless next season is a complete disaster.

Looking forward to your insight in the future.

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by seanchristopher on Dec 28, 2011 8:36 AM PST reply actions  

Thanks for the insight

I wish you had waited another couple days to post your piece. Most of us have not seem much of Baylor football. After the Alamo Bowl we will have a better sense of his abilities. The highlight reel videos only show the good stuff and makes it difficult to due a complete evaluation.

by Patches Pal on Dec 28, 2011 8:44 AM PST reply actions  

...Which is why posting now was a good idea

Now everyone can watch the Alamo Bowl with all these things in mind and be better informed while watching. Great work Daniel

by Scott Enyeart on Dec 28, 2011 8:57 AM PST via iPhone app up reply actions  

Go Ducks!

That’s for you Hazbro. And BTW, I could shred Holt’s D and i haven’t played in years. I feel bad for the players, especially the seniors. Next year hopefully he’s gone.

The Department of Redundancy Department is hiring, maybe I should apply myself.

by SGT Lenny on Dec 29, 2011 6:02 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Nice Read

And hey, he’s taller than Drew Brees. And from what I’ve heard he’s pretty good too.

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by JRock419 on Dec 28, 2011 8:46 AM PST reply actions  

Paul Allen

I mentioned this yesterday. If we are going to mortgage the franchise of players and picks to move up and take this guy the GM and coach are betting their job. They will take a pass because this is the third year of their contracts. This has to be Paul Allen’s decision. If the kid fails it is on him.

by Patches Pal on Dec 28, 2011 8:56 AM PST reply actions  

If Allen green lights a deal that PC/JS talked him into,

and it goes south, we all know what will happen.

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by hazbro24 on Dec 28, 2011 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

NFL stands for...

Not For Long!

Carroll needs to find his man at QB it is hard to keep a fan base off your back an your job intact middling and waiting around for the QB to make a franchise relevant.

Every year he passes on the risk he is losing precious time for his legacy as a coach.

by Seahawcla on Dec 28, 2011 11:25 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, Pete and John are paid to make these decisions.

Paul Allen is not going to hire them so they can foist the big decisions back on him, in order to keep their own jobs safe.

"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."

by shams on Dec 28, 2011 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Not sure if sarcastic

But his NBA team has been thoroughly meddled in his tenure. Darius Miles was the biggest waste of everything ever possible. I know that’s basketball talk, but relevant since its the same owner.

The Department of Redundancy Department is hiring, maybe I should apply myself.

by SGT Lenny on Dec 29, 2011 6:04 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Wow, you play with him

holy crap. Awesome. Welcome.
If RGIII doesn’t declare either, it basically kills all the talk about PCJS not getting a QB. Because the only real picks on that position we could make are developmental ones 3-4th rounds and down.

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by Corax --Nevermore-- on Dec 28, 2011 9:59 AM PST reply actions  

Good article.

My problem with RGIII though is less his height than his overall size. When I see him all I can think of is Michael Vick, a freak athlete who is absolutely electric when healthy, but because of his relatively small build and tendency to make plays with his feat and take extra hits is rarely ever completely healthy.

by wetzelcoal on Dec 28, 2011 10:29 AM PST reply actions  

He is 6' 2" and 220

Thats 2" and twenty pounds on Vick. He is overall average for an NFL QB. Slightly short, but solid build for it.

they took turns pissing into the bitch's ocular cavities.
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by stufr on Dec 28, 2011 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Vick is listed at 215

And my issue is that even an average size nfl qb is going to have trouble staying healthy if he takes the kind of hits that guys like Vick who frequently run the ball do.

by wetzelcoal on Dec 28, 2011 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Vick's size reminds me of my little sister

If she was black and I had a little sister. He makes alot of plays with his feet and I don’t mind, just as long as he doesn’t go all Tebow and have more rush yards than passing.

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by DKrottenhawk on Dec 28, 2011 4:44 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

RGIII isn't going to be running like Vick

He is trying to be a QB that can run, not a running QB.

they took turns pissing into the bitch's ocular cavities.
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by stufr on Dec 29, 2011 4:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Thank you for giving us this insight. Well done.

This is the info I have always wanted on highly touted draft prospects, first hand teammate accounts. Hell yeah you’re biased, nothing wrong with that when it comes from having a personal relationship with someone. Every time around the draft you always hear coaches, scouts, analysts, and other commentators speak to someones character but you never hear from the players that played with them. If you do hear from a player it seems to be someone else who is also looking to be drafted. I love hearing about his character from you, someone who has no personal stake it talking him up. Awesome.

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by SKIRMISH on Dec 28, 2011 12:25 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Not only that...

…but by describing the relationship, it allows the reader to put the article in full context, and therefore, in my opinion, renders it un-biased, in that all the bias is there to see.

Very nicely done, and hearing about the character is great.

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by Hawksince77 on Dec 29, 2011 7:40 AM PST up reply actions  

The question

What would it take for us to get this guy? Moving up 5 to 10 spots?

by Spin Forever on Dec 28, 2011 2:05 PM PST reply actions  

It would take more picks than we have

because we don’t have two firsts this year, and a first next year counts the same as a second-rounder this year. If we want to move up, I think Patches is right (below), we’ll have to deal with Minnesota, and we’re going to have to give up players along with our #1. I tend to think we could declare ET untouchable and still make it happen, but we’re going to have to give up players who are young, cheap, and good if we want to deal up for a franchise QB.

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by The Ancient Mariner on Dec 28, 2011 9:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I would be ok with trading Golden Tate as part of a package.

does this make me evil or wrong? Both the Vikes and the Panthers could use receivers.

by Chooch82 on Dec 28, 2011 9:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Neither evil nor wrong

but perhaps far overselling Golden Tate.

"The time has come," the Walrus said, "to talk of many things."

by shams on Dec 28, 2011 10:16 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Seriously.

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by Wayward Llama on Dec 29, 2011 5:24 AM PST up reply actions  

Great write-up Daniel... and a question

As a long-time Mizzou fan, I think you know that RG3 would win a landslide poll among Big 12 fans as “your favorite player on another team.” Griffin left us breathless on many an occasion.

My question, actually, is about Ganaway. He’s a bruiser, but he can play in the passing game and he has some burst (which is what really distinguishes the big backs who can make it in the NFL). I’m keeping an eye out for him as a potential mid-round steal.

What are your thoughts about how he fits with Seattle’s offense?

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by dcrockett17 on Dec 28, 2011 2:17 PM PST reply actions  

Baylor RB Terrance Ganaway

Terrance Ganaway is a relentless worker. He has a first-class work ethic. He is a bruising, powerful runner, but I think many of Ganaway’s 1300+ yards this year had to do with the way teams were forced to defend RG3 and the pass attack. Defenses were spread thin to cover sideline to sideline and that left gaping holes in the middle of the field for Baylor’s massive O-Line and Ganaway to take advantage of a thinly spread defense.
If I had to project Ganaway to the NFL level, I would guess a late 5th to 7th round pick, possibly undrafted free agent. I think if he gets into the right NFL backfield he could be a suitable back-up.
Marshawn Lynch is already a power-back so I don’t see Ganaway fitting with the Seahawks. In my opinion, Lynch would be better complemented with a DeMarco Murray type back- a speed back who excels on one-cut (or cutback) running with the ability to hit the home run with 60+ yard TD runs

by Daniel Hill on Dec 28, 2011 11:01 PM PST up reply actions  

^^ That is assuming we resign Beast Mode.

and in my opinion, I think we’d BETTER sign him.

by Daniel Hill on Dec 28, 2011 11:04 PM PST up reply actions  

If you look, we're not a very good running team

I can talk myself into Lynch because of his effectiveness in short-yardage/goal line, and because of how he makes defenses play him. But Force and Washington have been pretty awful, pretty much from game one. Force is likely gone and Leon is the change-up/special teams guy.

So I think the team will bring in one, possibly two new backups this off-season. Hopefully, in a new deal Beast Mode gets a well-deserved big bonus and Seattle gets flexibility. Regardless, Seattle needs a backup who can—to some degree—replicate what Lynch does. (He does, after all, take quite a pounding.) I think Carroll, Cable, and Bevell, would like two other backs that can both provide 5-10 carries/game at a reasonable ypc and start in a pinch.

A second (Chris Polk?) or third (Vick Ballard?) rounder certainly would not surprise me. But I imagine they’d prefer to find a guy later. I would be surprised if they don’t bring in another back with some size.

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by dcrockett17 on Dec 29, 2011 9:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Extremely well written piece.

I see no reason to suspect biased analysis.

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by THolt on Dec 28, 2011 2:39 PM PST via iPhone app reply actions  

The Jets

traded their 17th pick and a second rounder (52nd) and three players for the 5th pick in the draft to acquire Sanchez a few years ago. I just don’t think teams in the top 5 will be willing to let a qb get away like that.

by rideaducati on Dec 28, 2011 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Trade with Minnesota

To land RG3 a team will need to get ahead of Washington and Miami. I expect you have to go up to #3. Minnesota needs CB’s and WR’s. I could see a trade involving our first two picks plus Trufant or Thurman, Golden Tate and maybe one more guy. Minnesota may prefer some other players (Earl Thomas) but this is about what I think would be required. There will be alot of bidders for the pick.

by Patches Pal on Dec 28, 2011 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Trading ET should be out of the question (not that you're suggesting it)

I wouldn’t even give him up for Luck. ET is our next HOFer.

Tate, Thurman, Trufant and other players with “T” names are trade options.

by Nshima on Dec 28, 2011 7:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I'd give him up straight across for Luck.

ET plus a first rounder would make me really squirm, not sure where I’d fall out on that one. More than that, no way.

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by shams on Dec 28, 2011 8:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Trufant's too old and expensive, Thurman too broken

Tate could well be appealing to them, but I’d guess they’d want talent on D; we ought to be able to make the deal without giving up ET, but I’m betting we’d have to include one of the other starters in our secondary before the Vikes would say yes. Whether they’d prefer Chancellor, Browner, or Sherman I have no idea.

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by The Ancient Mariner on Dec 28, 2011 9:30 PM PST up reply actions  

So let's give them Tate and BMW or Tate and Obo

That would leave us with Sid, Doug, Butler, Durham, whoever we didn’t trade and Rockett. I would be ok with this.
I know- injuries have run us thin this year, but JS has a knack for finding late round gems. I really think Sidney and Doug are going to be our 1-2 punch (assuming Sidney isn’t made of glass)

by Chooch82 on Dec 28, 2011 10:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Thurman has a cracked fibula

gIt doesn’t sound too serious. He should be healed and ready to go by April. Tru is a big upgrade in their secondary.

One thing that may work to our favor is that we do not have a top 10 pick. If you are moving up from 7 to 3 there is probably a tendency to believe a 1st and 2nd pick ought to be enough. Minnesota can probably get more players from us since our 1st round pick is out of the top 10. The middle of the 1st and 2nd rounds will yield them linemen on both sides of the ball and we have depth at WR and in the secondary, their other two positions of need. They may prefer established players to lottery picks.

by Patches Pal on Dec 28, 2011 11:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I like a trade...

Involving Brandon Browner, Ben Obamanu, and draft picks. I feel it didnt hit us too hard, and gives the Vikings 2 young starters plus picks

by thecodeman on Dec 29, 2011 1:02 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

yeah i agree with this

Browner is playing well, his stock won’t go up much more than it is. Sherman has really stepped up, ET and Kam are deep, WT3 will be back, and possibly Tru comes back and plays decent.

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by SGT Lenny on Dec 29, 2011 6:12 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Trading Browner would be a major mistake.

It’ll never happen. He’s improved too much over the course of the season for that. IMO you can bet on Trufant being history. Oft-injured, slow, and expensive player on a team that’s getting younger and a unit that played better than it has in several years with him out.

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by Wayward Llama on Dec 30, 2011 9:30 AM PST up reply actions  

He's also on a 1-year deal

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/seattle-seahawks/brandon-browner/

I’m not sure if he’s eligible for a RFA tag, but it may not even be feasible to trade him.

by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Dec 30, 2011 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

i want him nuff said

i dont know if we have enough stock to trade up and get him

by genax on Dec 28, 2011 10:50 PM PST reply actions  

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