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Russell Okung Injury is the Biggest Loss of This Season

Like most of my stories, this one was written about 24 hours prior to publishing. It's not a game analysis, but John Morgan has since provided one for Okung vs Cole here. Read it first.

So, I finally got to watch the game a few times. I missed it live because I was in Berlin and really couldn't think of a valid excuse to stay up until 2:30 on a Thursday night to watch an NFL game. It's been a while since I missed a live Seahawks game but so it goes. Thankfully, Gamepass/Rewind comes with a wonderful "condensed" version to rewatch games, in which they show nothing except the relevant bits, and games can be rewatched in an hour. Joy, even if the pacing is breakneck.

I think I'm not saying anything controversial when I state this season has gone a lot better than many of us would've hoped for prior. We have a (fairly theoretical) shot at the playoffs, and while we've had some awful, awful games we've had a lot of good ones too, and our team is reminiscent of the 2010 Buccaneers in the surprising quality of young depth and rookie players. Games against the Steelers, Browns and Redskins in particular were aggravating and embarrassing, but like I mentioned a while back I look at this season not for results but for growth, the win-loss doesn't matter as much to me as long as I see season-on-season and game-on-game growth. Of course, NFL fans live in the moment in a way that would make Cesar Millan proud, which means that right now we're all gleeful and Washington already seems like a distant memory. That's just what it is.

But I digress. We've suffered a few injuries, yet for the most part they have been acceptable if painful. Sidney Rice has a veneer of a bad signing due to injuries and that's terrible, but at least it's giving our outstanding young talent more time on the field. Marcus Trufant is not long for this team and it's awesome to see that Sherman should be able to step up in his place, though it's a shame Walter Thurmond can't play opposite him right now. James Carpenter and John Moffitt stung not because of the drop in quality of play - because they were around replacement-level - but because they have a much higher ceiling to grow to and this will delay that growth.

Russell Okung being injured is just a confluence of "oh no". Last year, Okung was already playing as a borderline pro bowl left tackle, despite injuries. His progress into this year wasn't quite what I had hoped it would be, perhaps due to the lockout, perhaps due to lingering injuries or injury concerns. That's not to say he's not playing at a high level, but there's something tentative about how he's used. He doesn't drive block or release a lot, and there are certain gaps in his play (particularly an inability to handle spin moves and a tendency to hold badly when beat outside). Perhaps my expectations were too high, because this statement is also true: Russell Okung has been the best player on the Seahawks offense all year.

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I've never been particularly good at analyzing offensive lines, and have spent a lot of time this year polishing up my understanding of hand usage and leverage, among other things. A massive help has been Word of Muth analyzing our offensive line, must-read material for any Seahawks fan. In particular, one thing he helped me understand is that you can never isolate one-on-one play on the offensive line (which is ironic since that's how Football Outsiders charts offensive linemen), because it's all about assignments. Specifically, it's wonderful to see how much the Seahawks trust Okung in isolation. It's not just about whether or not there's a tight end on his side, it's about whether or not that TE and/or the LG help him, and they almost never do. Gallery has been much improved since his hobbled play earlier this year, but he's freed up because he almost never has to look Okung's way. Which in turn helps alleviate the pressure on Max Unger, and in turn on our right guard. A big factor in our improved offensive line play.

Going back over the Eagles game, Okung is isolated on Darryl Tapp or Trent Cole almost the entire game. There's a few (three, by my count) instances of holding that could have been called, but anyone who has gone back over game footage minutely will know that's almost always the case for offensive tackles. That said, Okung did a great job the entire game. While he looked tentative the first half, to the point where I almost noted down "Okung looks limited" and wanted to speculate on his injury status, the second half showed me I was wrong, as he did much more drive-blocking and releasing to block downfield. Perhaps he is kept out of driving too much as the front office is careful with him, perhaps because his upper body strength is more of an asset than his lower body strength, I don't know.

One thing I'm always glad to see is a measure of frustration from the opposing defensive end - John Morgan mentioned this as well, in the form of domination. I think the example Seahawks fans should most familiarize themselves with is Walter Jones versus Simeon Rice in this game. Tampa Bay was not as good as years prior but still really good, ranked 8th by DVOA, and Simeon Rice had a 12-sack season. Yet he could do absolutely nothing against Walter Jones, and logged all of no tackles or sacks, a performance that Bucs Nation head writer Sander described to me as "the only time I've ever seen Simeon Rice be eliminated as a factor in the game". Rice's response to being locked up was to kind of stop trying as the game progressed, but it shows up in any defensive end being dominated, especially the best ones, and it showed on Trent Cole.

I like Trent Cole as a player, I think he's one of the best all-around defensive ends against the pass and run in the NFL. But I think he has a problem with what happens after the whistle, with an earlier fine for a fistfight and one here for an unnecessary play. I don't think most people here will agree with me on this, but that's how I would characterize this play. I didn't see any intent to cause injury, and Okung was indeed holding/blocking him on his back. Cole is not a martial artist and he doesn't know what kind of throw would injure or not injure a man. He lost his cool, but it was not a malicious move, it was a throw to the ground made unfortunate by the positioning of the two players and just plain bad luck. In that context, the size of the fine ($7500) can be understood, I wasn't even sure it would result in a fine, despite the result. You can't really fine based on unfortunate results, that's a slippery slope. The fine does look ridiculous compared with uniform violations (10K) and is equal to such all-important violations like a foreign object on the uniform (sharpie in the sock, basically) or going to the ground in celebration. Way to have your priorities straight, NFL.

But back to what it means for us, which is much more than is immediately apparent. I've heard some people compare it to losing James Carpenter and John Moffitt, but that's not a comparison that makes sense. Their replacements were not that far behind them in quality of play, and no enormous adjustments needed to be made to how this line plays. Our current line is made up ofLT Paul McQuistan, LG Robert Gallery, C Max Unger, RG Lemuel Jeanpierre and RT Breno Giacomini. Gallery and Unger have proven themselves reliable above a level that I was expecting, but I can't trust either of those tackles in isolation. That is a huge loss to what you can do with blocking concepts, the way we slide the line, the usage of a tight end. You think we had it bad with our tight ends before, I don't think this line can offer much protection against better pass rushing teams except by going max protect every snap. And that's not feasible. This consideration is on top of Okung being one of our biggest investments in young talent, and a cornerstone we need in place for this franchise to get back to serious contention.

Over the entire season, I think Tom Cable has proven himself to us as much as he needed to, so I have some "faith" (for want of a better word) in him, but there's only so much you can do. Losing Okung is the biggest gamechanger we've seen since Charlie Whitehurst's play had to replace Tarvaris Jackson's against the Browns, and it could realistically have a similar impact on our offense's level of play. I hope it doesn't, but I would not be surprised if it does.

So that's why I'd call this the biggest loss. We've suffered through some ugly games, and lost some of our young talent to injuries along the way, but I don't think any single injury or loss has as negative an impact on both this season and the coming one as losing Okung does.

If you want a bright spot, well, it's a serious injury, one that might even keep him out of the start of next season, but at least it's not his ankle again. Recurrence is my biggest fear for Okung, since it's a very real thing for ankles, especially for large men playing on turf a large part of the year. So, at least there's that?

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Good read Thomas

I think Coles actions are simple.. He lost his temper and someone got hurt. Holding happens on almost every play and holding a Defensive player on the ground happens a lot as well. It’s part of the game. Do I think Cole wanted to hurt the King on purpose? No I don’t. I also don’t think people want to hurt each other in domestic violence issues either. But once again someone gets upset or frustrated (for what ever reason) and lashes out, resulting in injury. Regardless of what Okung did or didn’t do, their is no justification for the end result of Coles actions. His excuses for his actions are enough for me to understand why he did what he did. Revenge.
That is clear to me.. He’s a coward plan and simple. I have studied many art forms and love being in the octagon. I would love to see Mr. Cole out and about one day. I noticed he never commented on his actions during the last play of the game. I also like Cole as player. But he’s dirty plan and simple. Actions speak load and clear.

by Redzone59 on Dec 8, 2011 9:33 AM PST via mobile reply actions  

Should have read

I also “liked” Cole as a player

by Redzone59 on Dec 8, 2011 9:35 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Agree

And just because “he had no intent” to hurt Okung… it was completely unacceptable for him to take those actions. They were not within the confines of the game. It’s not like he rode a player to the ground, held a bit longer, or whatever the case. He took a player, latched onto their limb and then he made the conscious decision to flip him over his hip/back and slam him into the ground. It was his decision to do those actions and it resulted in seriously injuring another player, lost for the season, if not longer.

That is no excuse, that is no reason to let him off, or anyone off for that matter. He should be held responsible for his actions, and a measley $7,500 fine is not being held responsible.

Hell, he didn’t even show remose or anything for that matter in his response in a article Sando posted on ESPN. All he did was point fingers and blame Okung. He didn’t take responsibility or even address the fact that Okung is seriously injured and his future is unknown. That alone is bullshit and is no where the “classy” person that he is. Blaming Okung and simply saying “i dont mean to hurt anyone im not dirty”. Screw you man.

by DSAhawker on Dec 8, 2011 12:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Who cares about Cole?

He is a player who got in the heat of the moment. That happens in football. This is not about Cole, but instead about the bullshit, mother bleeping NFL.

The NFL’s reaction was shameful and the slap on the wrist fine is a disgrace. Fuck the comish. If this was a New York player or a team in the national spotlight, Cole would have been suspended.

Instead the NFL proved that it does not care about player safety. It only cares about impressions.

Cole is just a player, and apparently the NFL doesn’t care if the player potentially ruins a budding career.

F#$)#&$)#)(#%&)(k

mad about this.

by clutterheart on Dec 8, 2011 2:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Without injuries he's proved to be everything we wanted up to this point and more. It really sucks that he has dealt with injuries this often so soon, but at least it's too early to say he's "injury prone."

The team is definitely a lot better with him than without him and at least this wasn’t a year where we expected a lot out of the team, so it could have happened at a worse time. We can only hope he comes into next season healthy, strong, and stays that way.

Out of curiosity does anybody have an idea of how Trent Williams is doing in Washington?

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by Kenneth Arthur on Dec 8, 2011 9:46 AM PST reply actions  

I have wondered the same thing.

Funny how I remember being so sure that we wouldn’t have a shot at Okung in the draft and that we would be getting Williams, who by my memory was considered a better fit for our ZBS. Well I have not been dissapointed with how things rolled out. Only thing I know about Williams is that he is now out for the rest of the year (last 4 games) for testing positive (not sure for what though).

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by SKIRMISH on Dec 8, 2011 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

One thing to nitpick..
Cole is not a martial artist and he doesn’t know what kind of throw would injure or not injure a man.

He trained in MMA over the offseason.

by wyte_lightning on Dec 8, 2011 9:47 AM PST reply actions   3 recs

After the Suh Thanksgiving day incident

Mike & Mike were debating on the radio whether a similar incident in a game nobody cared about would warrant a 2 game suspension. I think we have our answer.

I could not possibly disagree more with this statement Beekers:

In that context, the size of the fine ($7500) can be understood, I wasn’t even sure it would result in a fine, despite the result. You can’t really fine based on unfortunate results, that’s a slippery slope.

To my mind, intent to injure is immaterial when the action is by definition unnecessary (post-whistle). When the action is by definition reckless then the league’s response to it should be post hoc and it should consider outcome. I’d feel differently if this were the standard post-whistle pushing and shoving, but it wasn’t—not even close.

This was was taking a fighting posture and intentionally picking a man off the ground and flipping him to the turf. It had nothing to do with football. This was a guy completely losing his shit for a second and willfully engaging in actions likely to cause injury; actions that are well outside the bounds of what is typical in the sport. You just don’t see players judo-flip other players. Seriously, have you ever seen anyone judo-flip an opponent like that?

Once you decide to take that kind of action—a fighting action—it should not matter what you intended to do. Any harm coming your actions should be your responsibility.

I might feel differently if the NFL didn’t already treat similar transgressions differently, based on God-only-knows what factors. But the league already does treat players and incidents differently, so that ship has sailed. It is bizarre to me then that they wouldn’t consider damage done to an opponent given that the action is unnecessary. If the league won’t consider injury caused by reckless action, why consider anything? Penalties and fines should be completely uniform.

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Dec 8, 2011 10:05 AM PST reply actions   3 recs

I agree

While attempting to violently dislodge a ball from a “defenseless” receiver has been determined to be a penalty and warrant a large fine – a football play, made for football reasons – I find it more than a little backwards that intentionally tossing a guy to the ground in a non-football move, made for non-football reasons would be largely dismissed.

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by Azimeir on Dec 8, 2011 11:13 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

This is how I see it as well.

I think you can apply this principle across most sports and occupations. An accident that occurs during the normal course of work is treated differently than an accident that accurs as a result of inappropriate action, or that doesn’t fall within the scope of normal/acceptable action.
However, I agree with Beekers that the result of said action shouldn’t play a part in determining the penalty, but it usually does.

by brugg on Dec 8, 2011 11:21 AM PST via mobile up reply actions  

It's pretty much like driving your car drunk

If you get pulled over, you get a DUI. If you wreck into a pole, you get a DUI and banged up. If you kill someone, you get to go to prison. When you commit the act, you are assuming the risk for all those possibilities. In the case of Cole, he engaged in unneccesary roughness and somebody was seriously hurt. His penalty should be above the norm for unnecessary roughness.

by PullManiac on Dec 8, 2011 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Despite a lot of good pass rushers in the rearview, we still face plenty of good ones

STL – Chris Long
CHI – Julius Peppers
SF – the two Smiths
ARI – Darnell Dockett

The o-line faces some big tests, and I think the coaching staff will be able to answer a lot of questions about the depth on this offensive line.

Always up for some Twitter action @nandron. I only talk NW sports, though.

by Nick Andron on Dec 8, 2011 10:51 AM PST reply actions  

Good timing for Morrah to be healthy.

Should we expect some 3TE sets vs the Rams?

by Groundhog on Dec 8, 2011 10:58 AM PST reply actions  

Another thought...

The NFL fined Finnegan and Johnson $25k each for their fighting against eachother that resulted in no suspensions or injuries. Just two players getting frustrated with eachother and taking it to another level, JOINTLY. While Cole get’s pissed and flips a defenseless Okung to the ground tearing his pec that results in a $7500 fine….
So if both parties fight eachother and no injuries =$25k each, how does one player, who decided to fight another player who had no idea it was turning into a fight, and ends up injuring him only get $7500?

No I do not think Cole intentionally meant to hurt Okung, just flip him over his shoulder and talk shit. Well that didn’t happen. As much as I want to be upset with Cole, I am even more red over the NFL and their “Book of Fines: The Equal Opportunity Guidebook to NFL Fines, Unless you play in Alaska.”

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by SKIRMISH on Dec 8, 2011 11:20 AM PST reply actions  

In the end you mention Cable proving himself

I think he has done a nice job proving himself too, the line has shown improvement as the season progressed even without all of the starters. I am concerned with him leaving for a head coaching job though. If he takes off we could end up right back where we started. Let’s hope he sticks for at least another year.

by Billy Showbiz on Dec 8, 2011 12:50 PM PST reply actions  

I agree with that

Right when he said the Hawks would develop a running game, they did. This has just been tragic to see everyone of our young guys go down on the line. I think they would have gained a lot of experience if they could have grounded out those last four games together.

by PullManiac on Dec 8, 2011 3:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Overall, a good read

I have to disagree on two points, though. wyte_lightning already pointed out that Cole has trained in MMA, so I won’t go any further with that. But anyone that’s trained in mma, judo, ju-jitsu, BJJ, Kyokushin, aikido, or any of the other martial arts that can use an opponent against that same opponent know that if you go to the ground, then the chance of someone getting hurt increases by a great magnitude.
The first throw I teach my students is to get out of a “mugger’s hold.” It is actually very simple. When someone puts their arm around a defender’s throat, or in Cole’s case, the upper chest, you grab it, pull down slightly (if you need air), and bring them around you as if you’re throwing off a back pack. If you do the throw properly, they land, on their back, in front of you, and you still have control of their arm. If you do the throw improperly, the attacker ends up standing in front you, but at least they are no longer behind you. You may still take them to the ground by holding onto their arm and bending over. The throw itself isn’t that harmful. But it can be disconcerting. As an attacker, you’re behind someone, then all of a sudden, you’re looking up at them. It will give the attacker pause. The only ways to truly hurt someone with this throw would be to attack them after they landed, or to continue with the momentum, and land upon them.
It’s what Cole did after he landed on Okung that showed that his attack was malicious. He used Okung’s shoulder as a pivot point. Did Cole mean to hurt Okung with the throw? I don’t know. Did he mean to hurt Okung after the throw? His actions say that he did.

by neurocell on Dec 8, 2011 1:44 PM PST reply actions   3 recs

I'm as big a homer as it gets, but I don't think the play is nearly as egregious as most.

That was a LOOOOOONG whistle. Okung virtually had his back… and could have rear naked choked him if he wanted.

I played TE and LB and was never put in that position in any situation. As a matter of fact, I can’t think of another example off the top of my head where an offensive player was blocking a defensive player in the back like that (at the time of the throw) and it wasn’t a penalty.

Frustration + Helplessness + Perception of Illegal Move + Whistle initially blown literally 3 full seconds ago = Trouble

Defensive linemen are paid for their unbridled aggression, not their restraint.

My profession legally requires me to keep my cool in all circumstances, yet even I can’t say with certainty that I would have acted any differently than Cole.

And I have MMA training too… that doesn’t mean much… haha.

Good post Beekers… rec’d.

by trippsixxes on Dec 8, 2011 5:17 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

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