Seahawks All-Time, All-Drafted Team
by Johnny Peel (DKSB) on Feb 11, 2011 5:57 PM PST
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PrintA while back on my other blog, I compiled a Seahawks All-Time team composed only of players drafted by the Seattle organization. Given the real possibility that NOTHING is going to happen in this offseason until the draft in late April, I thought it might be neat to revisit this topic. First, the rules:
A) players must have been drafted by the Seahawks (no undrafted players like Mack Strong, Dave Krieg, or David Hawthorne)
B) players must have made a significant contribution with Seattle (so no Ahman Greens, for example)
Here's my squad:
OFFENSE
QB Seneca Wallace (4th, 2003)
RB Shaun Alexander (1st, 2000)
FB John L. Williams (1st, 1986)
WR Brian Blades (2nd, 1988)
WR Darrell Jackson (3rd, 2000)
TE John Carlson (2nd, 2008)
T Walter Jones (1st, 1997)
T Ron Mattes (7th, 1985)
G Steve Hutchinson (1st, 2001)
G Pete Kendall (1st, 1996)
C Kevin Mawae (2nd, 1994)
DEFENSE
DE Jacob Green (1st, 1980)
DE Michael Sinclair (6th, 1991)
DT Cortez Kennedy (1st, 1990)
DT Brandon Mebane (3rd, 2007)
LB Lofa Tatupu (2nd, 2005)
LB Fredd Young (3rd, 1984)
LB Bruce Scholtz (2nd, 1982)
S Kenny Easley (1st, 1981)
S John Harris (7th, 1978)
CB Marcus Trufant (1st, 2003)
CB Shawn Springs (1st, 1997)
SPECIAL TEAMS
K Josh Brown (7th, 2003)
P Ruben Rodriguez (5th, 1987)
KR Bobby Joe Edmonds (5th, 1986)
What do you think, sirs?
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Yup
Here’s my top 5 Seahawks QBs:
1. Hasselbeck
2. Krieg
3. Zorn
4. Moon
5. Kitna
None of those guys were acquired by Seattle in the NFL draft.
by Johnny Peel (DKSB) on Feb 11, 2011 6:09 PM PST up reply actions
Kitna?
Wow…
Mariners, Senators, Trail Blazers, Seahawks fan that also covers the Ottawa Senators prospects for Silver Seven. All from Sunrise, FL. And I do for you guys! Silver Seven
by Alexander Calloway on Feb 12, 2011 6:14 PM PST up reply actions
Who would you have at #5
if not Kitna? Friesz?
by Johnny Peel (DKSB) on Feb 12, 2011 7:13 PM PST up reply actions
look at it this way
maybe we are due to draft a great QB! :)
by Johnny Peel (DKSB) on Feb 11, 2011 7:05 PM PST up reply actions
I like this idea!
Now I’ve got to go to work on this. At first glance it might be very hard to upgrade from the squad you listed.
Go for it!
I’d love to see upgrades!
by Johnny Peel (DKSB) on Feb 11, 2011 6:06 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe Joey Galloway before Blades
maybe…..
Illusions, Michael. A trick is what a whore does for money. - GOB
Galloway was more explosive
and scored more TDs than Blades (37 to 34), but I gave Blades the edge for longevity in Seattle (10 years to 4) and consistency… Blades is also 2nd in team history in catches and yards receiving.
by Johnny Peel (DKSB) on Feb 11, 2011 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
I prefer D-Jack
over Galloway- better numbers, bigger impact on better Seahawks teams- Although who knows what Galloway does over a longer Seattle career if he hadn’t forced his way out of town after 1999 season?
by Johnny Peel (DKSB) on Feb 11, 2011 6:19 PM PST up reply actions
You could cheat
Put Galloway as KR instead of Bobby Joe. Then they’re both on the list.
by SmartAssCoug on Feb 12, 2011 10:25 AM PST up reply actions
And I miiiight put Spencer before Mawae.
Spencer really has turned into an above-average center now.
That's totally reasonable
You could easily slide Spencer in that slot.
by Johnny Peel (DKSB) on Feb 11, 2011 6:20 PM PST up reply actions
good idea
On first thought there’s nothin I’d change although it is disconcerting seeing Seneca atop any Seahawks All-time list. I’m gonna have to dive into the memory banks and peruse some hawks draft history and see if I can challenge any of your selections.
I know you’ve got your own blog to take care of but with John gone it’d be cool to see you drop some more of your content on us over here.
by CMoney87 on Feb 11, 2011 6:20 PM PST via mobile reply actions
I'll try to post more over here
if there is a demand- but I also don’t want to use up too much stuff that could end up on my home blog either.
I’ll be around (and big ups to John for letting me post here in the first place- He certainly gave me a LOT more exposure, and I’m very grateful to him for that).
by Johnny Peel (DKSB) on Feb 11, 2011 6:23 PM PST up reply actions
Rick Mirer
As much as we would like to forget him, has better numbers than Seneca
by Christian Bussey on Feb 11, 2011 6:23 PM PST reply actions
Fair point
Mirer had a promising rookie year before imploding (cautionary tale for Sam Bradford?), and started 51 games to Wallace’s 14. However, Wallace had better numbers in almost every respect (albeit with a smaller sample).
by Johnny Peel (DKSB) on Feb 11, 2011 6:27 PM PST up reply actions
seconded
Mirer was the better qb. Seneca the better receiver. Mirer just is hauling around franchise qb expectations. Anybody remember the awefulness that was the hawks offense that led to his drafting? Put Seneca on that team and you’ve got yourself another top 5 pick coming.
Mirer was also useful, as he was traded for a first round pick while Seneca was tossed for a 5th.
I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul - Invictus
That's kinda depressing.
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
How about the "Not So All Time, All Drafted 'Hawks Team"
Rick Mirer for QB
Brian Bosworth for MLB
Marcus Tubbs for DT
….
I know I’m missing a ton of busts!
Busts
Just because Mirer was a first round bust doesn’t mean….sadly that he wasn’t the best qb the hawks ever drafted
by Christian Bussey on Feb 11, 2011 6:27 PM PST up reply actions
Never said he wasn't a bust
Just said that despite that he was the best qb we ever drafted
by Christian Bussey on Feb 11, 2011 6:31 PM PST up reply actions
Oh man
You could make an UGLY team if you kept going :)
by Johnny Peel (DKSB) on Feb 11, 2011 6:29 PM PST up reply actions
Dan McGwire destroys Rick Mirer in the bust category.
Lamar King for DE
Illusions, Michael. A trick is what a whore does for money. - GOB
Two more years
I really want him to succeed too.
Illusions, Michael. A trick is what a whore does for money. - GOB
Curry will probably never live up to his draft pick
but I still think the guy can have a solid NFL career- Dunno if I’d call him a “bust” on the level of, say, Bosworth, etc.
by Johnny Peel (DKSB) on Feb 11, 2011 6:40 PM PST up reply actions
Yup
Entire league passed on Tom Brady, what? 6 times? On Joe Montana 3 times? The draft is to a great degree a crapshoot.
by Johnny Peel (DKSB) on Feb 11, 2011 6:45 PM PST up reply actions
I apologize...
I was merely pointing out that Clay went towards bottom half of 1st round while AC was supposedly the “BEST” prospect as a LB to come out in ten years, so Charlie Casserly says…
I'm as dumb as everyone else :)
I HATED the Tatupu pick back in ’05, and danced a jig when Curry fell to us.
Nobody knows anything.
by Johnny Peel (DKSB) on Feb 11, 2011 6:49 PM PST up reply actions
The Shadow knows.
Illusions, Michael. A trick is what a whore does for money. - GOB
by Lo Pann on Feb 11, 2011 6:50 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Curry wasn't regarded as the "best" LB in the draft, merely the "safest".
As in, he had the least amount of questions. That’s what I read anyways. Besides, two years is to early to say whether somebody is definitely a bust or not.
Really?
I remember him being regarded as the best linebacker and a few regarded him as the best player available.
As a prospect
he was better than Patrick Willis and we all saw his affect there was no way we couldn’t. Although I was semi hoping for Crabtree.
by alexander_37 on Feb 11, 2011 8:07 PM PST up reply actions
I don't see Boz as a bust...
injury was the greater factor, and I generally give a pass to injury issue guys.
He was great when he played…
"Life does not cease to be funny when people die, anymore than it ceases to be serious when people laugh." - George Bernard Shaw
by Tyler Jorgensen on Feb 13, 2011 2:21 AM PST up reply actions
Jeremy Stevens TE?
Dude never lived up to his draft slot. Don’t get me wrong, Husky fan for life, but Jerry Porter might have been right, this guy was a chump.
I think he just got selfish
And a bit too much butter on his hands.
I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul - Invictus
Talented guy who wasn't worth his draft status
But he did produce for a few years with us. Just couldn’t keep out of trouble.
All-time bust?
Owen Gill, RB. 2nd round pick in 1985, 1st Seattle pick of that draft- Got CUT that year, never played for Seattle. Was OOF by the end of the 1987 season.
by Johnny Peel (DKSB) on Feb 11, 2011 6:31 PM PST reply actions
Wow.
Now that is a bust. Any more info on him as to why we gave up on him so quickly and what caused us to be so high on him on draft day?
Here are his college stats.
I was 10 at the time, but I recall that
the motivation for the pick was concern about Curt Warner bouncing back from his ACL blowout in ‘84. I’ll admit I don’t really remember how he turned out to be so craptacular he couldn’t even make the ’85 squad…
by Johnny Peel (DKSB) on Feb 11, 2011 6:56 PM PST up reply actions
That 1984 team
Was so fun to watch. I was 9 and I remember thinking we were screwed. It turned out we were better off almost because no one could stop Largent. That could be my 9 year old memory talking though because I haven’t gone back and looked at the stats.
Nice
I had that poster in my room. Kenny Easley was so good that year. He had 9 interceptions in the last 6 games.
You were 9 in that writeup. I turned 10 during the season.
What strikes me about this excercise
Is how many first and second round picks populate it. Despite the risk of draft busts we’ve really made hay with our top picks. Goes to show you why so many teams value those picks so highly.
Very true
and hopefully a few years down the road we’ll see a lot of Pete Carroll picks on an updated version of this list…
by Johnny Peel (DKSB) on Feb 11, 2011 7:07 PM PST up reply actions
Cheers to that
I don’t think it will take long for Earl Thomas to replace John Harris and for Okung to replace Mattes.
15 of 25
were 1st or 2nd rounders…
by Johnny Peel (DKSB) on Feb 11, 2011 7:09 PM PST up reply actions
I was just thinking that we're gonna need to see some more Peel in here...
I know I gave you a hard time once before but your additions always interest me… and if anyone is going to fill the creative void—I bet its you, brother.
I second this...
enjoy your work immensely! Your posts are fewer and further between but always excellent.
I was just thinking that we're gonna need to see some more Peel in here...
I know I gave you a hard time once before but your additions always interest me… and if anyone is going to fill the creative void—I bet its you, brother.
Good but...
John Kasay over Josh Brown.
Christian Fauria over John Carlson.
Joey Galloway over Darrell Jackson (though God bless Darrell Jackson).
Fun list… Thanks!
As much as I hate him now,
Sean Locklear was actually pretty serviceable during the Holmgren years.
Maybe it's just the 80's kid in me but
as Curt Warner was my very first “favorite Seahawk” I’d probably put him over Alexander. I don’t knock Shaun as much as some have for his running style, but Warner was a more complete back. It’s a shame we never got to see enough of him healthy.
by SmartAssCoug on Feb 11, 2011 11:16 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
The best backfield would be to start JLW twice
GET OFF ME!
by flyinmonky on Feb 12, 2011 1:10 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I nitpicked at this list for a bit...
And the only things I could think of were 1. Sam Adams perhaps over ME! BANE! although Meeb could certainly pass him soon, and 2. Galloway over Jackson, simply because I feel Galloway was better although Jackson did it longer. Also, if Carlson immediately flames out (don’t think he will), does that make Carlester Crumpler or Itulu Mili the best TE we’ve ever drafted?
Oh, and those nitpicking points were all based on 2:30 am drunken mid-90's nostalgia,
so yeah, good list. I can see ET, Okung, and Jake Locker (!) all being on this list soon. In my wet dreams.
Great article
I would definitely put Curt Warner over SA at running back. He was one of the few RBs who really didn’t need an OL to do what he did. You can’t say that about SA.
Eugene Robinson at S.
Maybe Dave Brown over Springs at CB.
Supplemental may count, I don't know...
But I would take Springs anyway.
I would say Brown played well on a bad defense for longer than Springs
But its tough to say, especially because those were very different eras.
I'm glad i'm not the only one who feels this way
Warner in his short prime could run over, around or past a guy, plus he was a pretty good receiver for a RB. He could catch more than just the screen or outlet pass.
by SmartAssCoug on Feb 12, 2011 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
Yes he was and he was good
But he also had one of the best OLs in the NFL. The early 80s OLs were not anywhere near as good. Curt Warner was like Barry Sander’s before there was a Barry Sander’s in the league. The guy could do it all by himself.
His name was Barry Sanders, not Barry Sander's
I am a mornon and I feel bad about myself.
I better go drink
I read this as
“I am a Mormon and feel bad about myself. I better go drink.”
And I thought, “That’s not what Mormons are supposed to do…”
We could have had most of that OL at the same time if our FO hadn't been trying to move us to LA
We would have been the most just fightening up front in the early 2000s. You think Walt and Hutch were good next to eachother, imagine if they were next to Mawae with Kendell at RG. It would have been unstopable.
Think about losing RT McIntosh to injury as well...
Could have been unbelievable.
"Life does not cease to be funny when people die, anymore than it ceases to be serious when people laugh." - George Bernard Shaw
by Tyler Jorgensen on Feb 13, 2011 2:24 AM PST up reply actions
Good job Johnny!
I love your other blog as well, but with John departed, it’d be cool to see you post here even more often.
Bobby Joe!!!
He was one reason I stayed a Seahawks fan. (I started following the team when they drafted Curt Warner.)
Bobby Joe went to my high school in St. Louis. He was the man.
"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin
Curt Warner
Behind big Walt , Hutch & Mack Strong…..Eat dust Shawn.
Well...wow..very intresting....
Defensively….
Robert Blackmon S – 2nd Rd – 1990 – side note, who remembers the game against the Oilers when Michaell McCrary (Also worth a mention 7th Rd 93) blocks an attempted FG on the last play of the game and recovers, and pitches to Blackmon who runs it in for the winning score!
Honorable Mention for NOT being drafted Joe Nash 1982…
Jeff Bryant DT – 1Rd 1882
Keith Butler LB – 2nd Rd -1978
I really enjoy this topic, but unfortunately, it is Valentine’s Day so I am getting the look…will revisit this tomorrow
"A paranoid is someone who knows a little of what's going on. A psychotic is a guy who's just found out what's going on."
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