Field Gulls Mod Enforced Rules and Standards
With the start of preseason, it's time for a refresher.
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The following is the final set of rules and regulations decided upon by the community of Field Gulls.
Zero Tolerance
Abuse of the following rules will lead to comments being hidden or deleted as well as immediate banning, possibly without chance of reinstatement.
Sexism, Racism or other Bigotry: MTV raised you right. You know better than to use "gay" in the pejorative. Cull the sexist, hate-filled slang from your vocabulary or expect an immediate ban.
No Politics or Religion: Just don't do it.
Name Calling: Except to call Scruffy "Lance". He likes that. This has never been a problem here, but for the sake of comprehensiveness, let it be known that name calling of any kind will not be tolerated.
Spam: One and you're done.
Hoaxes: False headlines used to capture attention will be rewarded with a deletion of the post and a banning. Misreported news of any kind is not allowed.
Trolling other blogs: Absolutely not. Do this and you will be banned here at FG.
Standards
Mods will enforce standards through a three strike system: correction, warning and finally banning. Mods will not punish innocent errors, but habitual abuse.
Links: A link must be provided for all news and quoted material.
Spelling and Grammar: The readers of Field Gulls are Field Gulls. Therefore you are held to basic editorial standards. Commenters must attempt proper spelling and grammar within the best of their ability. Many internet browsers have a spell check included.
Subject Line: The subject line is the small box above the body of a comment. SBN software requires this box be used. Use it.
Reply: The reply button is below and to the right of a posted comment. It's a wonderful organization and communication tool. Use it.
Site Etiquette
Site etiquette is to be enforced at the moderators discretion. It is a catch all for behavior not explicitly covered by the above rules that can be abusive to the site, those who contribute to the site and its readers.
Belligerence, Fault finding and Trollish behavior: Rudeness can be couched in the nicest words and divisive and destructive commenting can be framed as civil discussion. Persistent negative comments, thread-jacking, fault finding, petty correction, stubborn ignorance or illogic, meanness, calls to perfection, refusal to drop an argument, unfounded claims of prejudice and other acts of self-importance will be dealt with on a case by case basis. tl;dnr, don't be a jerk because you're behind the internet cloak of anonymity.
Judging the fandom of others: You don't get to decide how much of a fan someone is. If you do this, expect the community to be very angry with you.
Respect the moderators.
Keep front page posts on-topic: Unless specifically designated, comment sections are not free-for-alls. Your comments should be about the post itself.
Use the Rec button!: It is there to be the virtual equivalent of a head nod/fist bump/Amen Brother. This keeps the comments sections clean, concise and content heavy while allowing people to express their agreement in a visible way.
Fantasy discussion is for the weekly fantasy post: Fantasy comments outside of the post may be met with sarcasm.
Rosterbation: Fanposts containing logical, supported and novel roster moves are accepted, even endorsed. Fanposts that propose farfetched trades, signings, schemes or that endorse exhausted topics (ie Michael Vick, Mike Holmgren, the officiating of Super Bowl XL, etc) are not allowed.
Chat Speak: No longer accepted. "+1", "LOL" and "roflcopter" are examples of this.
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Although it may fall under one of the categories,
Comparing levels of fandom has been generally frowned upon. No need to say you’re a better fan than somebody else for any reason. We’re all here because we like the Seahawks and everybody chooses to express their fandom differently
by tootthekazoo on Feb 15, 2011 2:05 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Yeah
This habit is pretty akin to comparing…something else, and probably less productive.
Want to include anything about trolling on other team sites? Especially after a victory...
Karma police, arrest this man.
by wyte_lightning on Feb 15, 2011 2:12 PM PST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
Good one.
"Life does not cease to be funny when people die, anymore than it ceases to be serious when people laugh." - George Bernard Shaw
by Tyler Jorgensen on Feb 15, 2011 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
This is admittedly a personal preference, but invoking athletes' personal lives bothers me greatly
and I don’t feel like this is the place for it. The Michael Vick stuff in the Eagles playoff game is an obvious example.
Also:
“Lofa Tatupu gets charged with DUI – Supporting link” = good
“Lofa Tatupu was driving drunk, and is a bad person who doesn’t care about his team and city” = not good
I don’t think we need to treat players with kid gloves, but I also think there should be a concerted effort to avoid the TMZ factor, and respect for the fact that these guys are complete strangers about whom we know very little.
Seriously
I hate it when we proclaim a player to have “character concerns”.
We do not personally know these players. We are way too quick to call a player who smiles all the time and doesn’t make any noise a “good character”, while a player who slips up occasionally or makes his opinions vocal has “character concerns”. I hate to talk like a rebellious teen, but that’s very Orwellian.
I tend to agree with that.
But Vick and Big Ben are in their own class and are always going to draw a negative response.
by Scruffy Lefty on Feb 15, 2011 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
Probably. And when there's a police report involved, as there is for those guys, it's slightly more understandable.
But this is a forward-thinking community for the most part, and I’d like to think we’re capable of separating on-the-field from off-the-field just as we are capable of separating DVOA from QB Rating.
It’s just like the “Ichiro is a terrible leader and sooo selfish” horseshit.
If we word it as "speculation" I think we could enforce.
I just don’t want to create a grey area where I have to make a judgement on wether its appropriate or not.
by Scruffy Lefty on Feb 15, 2011 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, this is a really, really grey area that I'm hesitant to put into the rules.
Rule of thumb is this: exercise extreme caution when making character judgments of anyone.
by BrianL on Feb 15, 2011 4:24 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I guess I'm on the other side.
I find character to be quite relevant.
I’m firmly against speculation, unfounded assertions, and even against most passing of judgment and condemnation even where the allegations have strong substantiation. I’m not into that at all. Probably because I’m worthy of a lot of judgment and condemnation myself, if you ever got to know me.
But I feel establishing a paradigm where character is not relevant to our discourse cheapens the more tangible parts of this sport that I love. “Not relevant” feels too conducive to “not important”, tacitly endorses it. I don’t feel that way at all, so establishing that character is not relevant at all would feel like an ideology I don’t believe in being imposed on me.
There is no moral authority, and I am not endorsing that we try to conceptualize one at all. No moral authority, but I am not going to be character agnostic.
by jacobstevens on Feb 15, 2011 3:36 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Good post.
Then, is it fair to say this: when using character to evaluate football players, the burden is on the author to 1) substantiate whatever claim they are making about a player’s character, and 2) connect that coherently with the overall point they are attempting to make.
by jhmg16 on Feb 15, 2011 4:58 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I think that if a players "character concerns" draw the attention of the NFL commissioner
then they should become fair game for a blog discussion, since a how the NFL deals with these things directly affects the Hawks, and how the Hawks deal with these things directly relates to the fan experience.
So, for instance, a rookie getting a DUI might merit a “meh”, a possible Vick trade would warrant a more colorful discussion. So says I!
"We"
How about unless one has played on the team, refer to the team in the third person, not the collective first person.
I love the team
…and I have been a fan since I was a kid when the franchise began. But THEY play the games and WE watch them.
Considering the number 12 has been retired in honor of the fans
And how much time and dedication most of the people on this site put in to this team… I don’t think there is a problem referring to the team as “we.” But if you’re gonna do it, don’t do it with a double standard, e.g. “WE played great today!” Then the following week: “Damn, THEY really sucked out there.” Either be all in or nothing
by Mpjohns3 on Feb 15, 2011 4:50 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I use the collective "we" and I do so unabashedly.
Considering how much fans pay in pro sports— stadium costs, ticket prices, parking, 10 dollar beers, or even NFL Ticket (or bar tabs) to watch your beloved team when you live out of state… and of course the fact that home teams win 60% of all games in the NFL (and a decidedly higher percentage in Seattle)
FUCK YES we use “WE” here in Seattle.
However, fans of other teams… i.e. Yankees and Steelers and anyone else whose bandwagon is bursting to the seams with new members are NOT allowed to use the collective “we” on this site. They don’t deserve it. They haven’t suffered through the bullshit that we have. Ken Behring and officials and losing the Sonics and the fucking rain and the crappy traffic and KJR and A-Rod and Curt Warner’s knee and Tez NOT being in the HoF and the Hutch/tag situation all the other things that bind us as fans together with the Seahawks and make us a collective “WE” from now… until forever.
"Life does not cease to be funny when people die, anymore than it ceases to be serious when people laugh." - George Bernard Shaw
by Tyler Jorgensen on Feb 16, 2011 12:00 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
The royal we.
As in, “”http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E09LU6XVyxs" target="new">we dropped off the damn money."
by jacobstevens on Feb 16, 2011 1:39 PM PST up reply actions
Well, that's just like, your opinion, man.
"Life does not cease to be funny when people die, anymore than it ceases to be serious when people laugh." - George Bernard Shaw
by Tyler Jorgensen on Feb 16, 2011 4:02 PM PST up reply actions
Touche
Just keep in mind, you run the risk of looking like the Patton Oswalt character in “Big Fan”.
Haven't seen it.
I’ll try to find it sometime.
"Life does not cease to be funny when people die, anymore than it ceases to be serious when people laugh." - George Bernard Shaw
by Tyler Jorgensen on Feb 16, 2011 4:02 PM PST up reply actions
I like using we when referring to the Hawks,
Or whatever team I’m supporting. It’s a psychological thing. The Seahawks represent the city of Seattle in the NFL, and by extension, its fans.
I see nothing wrong with using we because we are fans, we pay the salaries, we make the team possible.
And of course, lest we forget, we are the 12th Man!
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!
I have a plan, and it's so cunning you can brush your teeth with it!
by UprootedTexan on Feb 16, 2011 2:24 PM PST up reply actions
Another thought on "we."
Are each and every stock holder of the Packers allowed to use “we” since they “own” a stake of the team?
Because if so, that’s just some elitist crap. They win the SB AND they get to say “we” but we don’t.
"Life does not cease to be funny when people die, anymore than it ceases to be serious when people laugh." - George Bernard Shaw
by Tyler Jorgensen on Feb 16, 2011 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
A good general point, and I'll follow.
But I really was not trying to do that above re: Robert, Brian. I don’t have an issue with him at all. My concern is the double standard of how it’s accepted.
by jacobstevens on Feb 15, 2011 4:35 PM PST up reply actions
We gotta do something about that Brian guy too.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
Also as a clarification on the two day registration thing
We deal with a lot of spam accounts. Occasionally SBN doesn’t catch all of them, so a two day wait period helps us filter through the rest.
It also helps when we’re dealing with malcontent users. Sometimes they get the itch to flood us with alternate accounts after they’ve been banned.
by BrianL on Feb 15, 2011 4:40 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Suggestion: "Don't be a netcop."
Let the moderators enforce the rules. That’s their job. Don’t whine about how awful someone else is. Hit the action button and flag it, and the mods will deal with it.
Also: A generally thick skin will take you a long ways in internet commenting. And I really like this commentary on internet commenting in general: http://www.theatlantic.com/personal/archive/2010/12/a-little-new-years-advice/68535/
I'd like to see the community gently point out behavior that are against these guidelines.
Between Scruffy, Phil, Aron, and myself, there’s often eyes on this place but sometimes we’re not around.
Don’t go overboard, but calmly try to correct someone if they’re doing something that are against the rules.
We could call it "Community Watch"
CALL THE MODERATORS!
by Scruffy Lefty on Feb 15, 2011 4:57 PM PST up reply actions
On a serious note
Please flag bad comments so we can quickly find them.
Yes, please.
If there’s a bad comment, don’t try to respond or join in piling-on. That way leads to thread meltdowns and turned-off lurkers who may otherwise be thinking of posting.
Just hit the flag button and go on your merry way.
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
Can we not post giant pictures
with the hulk that say “use the fucking subject line” to a visitor from another site who pops in to talk about our team or a player and is being cool but isn’t aware of site etiquette.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
Or for the love of god please please please.
Keep them to 250 pixels in height or so. And use discretion.
Question about hoaxes.
I don’t try to mislead people when I post things (either as fanposts, or as a regular post). However, I have been known to write fanposts that are obviously fictitious and not meant to be taken seriously (something akin to “The Onion” but Seahawks-related) for the sake of the community’s amusement (and my own), would those be considered hoaxes?
I just don’t want to end up getting banned over a misunderstanding.
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!
I have a plan, and it's so cunning you can brush your teeth with it!
Satire's fine, it's usually obvious that you're not trying to maliciously deceive someone.
If you’re doing something like “[Player out for season with an injury]” and then post to a fake link or something, then you’re in trouble.
Oh, thank goodness.
Satire’s kind of my bread and butter.
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!
I have a plan, and it's so cunning you can brush your teeth with it!
by UprootedTexan on Feb 15, 2011 4:53 PM PST up reply actions
check "my superbowl prediction!!!" post most hate it, some love it, you'll love it...
"I was 11 or 12 and Quinton was like 30. He was the only dude on the Pop Warner team who had a full mustache and a beard. And he used to drive to Pop Warner games. You're not supposed to be doing that. It was crazy." -Marshawn Lynch
Good lord, that's eerily similar.
If you’d thrown in B.J. Raji screaming “ba-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-con!!!!” while chasing down someone in the endzone eating a BLT, it would’ve been damn near identical.
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!
I have a plan, and it's so cunning you can brush your teeth with it!
by UprootedTexan on Feb 15, 2011 5:01 PM PST up reply actions
ha! i knew we'd get a long...
"I was 11 or 12 and Quinton was like 30. He was the only dude on the Pop Warner team who had a full mustache and a beard. And he used to drive to Pop Warner games. You're not supposed to be doing that. It was crazy." -Marshawn Lynch
Going over to another blog and rubbing a victory in their faces.
Generally acting like a dick on other blogs, in brief.
This also applies to pre-game trash talk.
Keep it in good spirit (The haiku threads were a blast, especially when opposing fans joined in) but don’t go to other blogs and be rude just for the sake of being rude.
(As a side note, I hope we play the Texans again soon so we get to mingle with Battle Red Blog some more).
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
Agreed. Those guys are great.
I haven’t popped in for a while, but might have to go say hello again…
"Life does not cease to be funny when people die, anymore than it ceases to be serious when people laugh." - George Bernard Shaw
by Tyler Jorgensen on Feb 16, 2011 12:28 PM PST up reply actions
Along with "No Politics" we need to listen to John Lennon: "'No religion too."
by thebyron on Feb 15, 2011 6:16 PM PST reply actions 3 recs
I'd like to see a little less hysteria
What I mean is people losing their mind’s when things don’t go well. If The Hawks are down 59-0, that’s one thing, but giving up a score on the initial possession is going to happen, it is not the end of the world, and it is certainly not the end of the game.
I’m not an idiot (debatable), I know there is no real way to attack this problem, it just bugs me.
by Wes Mantooth30 on Feb 15, 2011 10:31 PM PST reply actions
It's classic "Game Thread Emotion"
Everybody’s drunk and emotional, so of course the game threads are going to be more charged than normal. We’re more accepting of “heat of the moment” reactions in those threads than the normal ones, so long as things don’t get out of hand.
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
Please god no
Hysterical gameday posting is the only thing that prevents me from alienating my friends and family and developing a heart condition
Too late for me...
Already done all of the above. I do not post to game day threads, as I’m usually too busy trying to remember which blood pressure medicine I just took too much of, and whether another shot of Jameson will push me over the edge.
But going back two or three days after the fact and reading through the game day threads is some of the best entertainment I have in my life. Way better than network TV sitcoms.
I would be happy if game day threads were considered free fire zones. And y’all do want me to be happy, don’tcha?
by Seabeek on Feb 16, 2011 12:07 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm kind of ok with emotions
In a game day thread – people are watching the game, having some drinks possibly, and giving raw reactions to all the information in front of them. Sometimes that gets a little bipolar – hawk losses are downers in the threads, while victories are perhaps overly positive. But this is the nature of a game day thread – it’s the instant the game lives in.
With that said – all the main rules should obviously still apply (no insults, bigotry, politics, et cetera).
by BennyGStein on Feb 16, 2011 11:00 AM PST up reply actions
Okay, I'm addressing this now.
There have been six posts referencing John since he left.
The first was a thank you post that went up shortly after his departure. The following four were Benne, Phil, Joel, and myself explaining how we found Field Gulls, all of which were parts of larger posts. The sixth was Benne putting up an introduction to his writing to explain how his tape breakdowns would differ from what has been done.
That’s it. There’s really no need to over-scrutinize everything. Contrary to what seems to have become popular belief, there are no plans to eulogize John from now until the end of time.
As an employer
I had an incredible employee who I was always afraid would leave. Until she left and I found an even more incredible replacement…who left. Then I found someone else who was even better than her two predecessors. I’m not worried about Field Gulls.
Moral of the story
John Morgan: wouldn’t it be awesome if it turned out that he sucked?
by Snuffleupagus on Aug 12, 2011 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
I love roflcopter
But only because it’s the most ridiculous thing in the world. I will refrain from using it though.
by BennyGStein on Feb 16, 2011 10:50 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
As long as there aren't references to the Rosencopter,
I have no objections, your honor.
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!
I have a plan, and it's so cunning you can brush your teeth with it!
by UprootedTexan on Feb 16, 2011 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
Hahahahahaha.
Spoken like a Texan. A Houston Texan.
That game HAD to hurt. An all time memorable collapse game.
"Life does not cease to be funny when people die, anymore than it ceases to be serious when people laugh." - George Bernard Shaw
by Tyler Jorgensen on Feb 16, 2011 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
After last year, the Rosencopter was actually kind of tame.
When Quin batted that ball into that Jags’ WR’s hands for the win (which will forever be known as the Q-Tip), I wanted to jump through the television and slap the living hell out of him.
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!
I have a plan, and it's so cunning you can brush your teeth with it!
by UprootedTexan on Feb 16, 2011 12:46 PM PST up reply actions
Wow.
Like 10 years of existence, and there’s the “Rosencopter” and “the Q-tip.” We’ve been around since 75/76 and don’t have ANY memorable terms like that.
All we have is “the hit” … but only we know of it, it isn’t ubiquitous with football fans across the nation like Rosencopter, or damn brilliantly unique to be used by others like Q-tip.
This shows the “setup” as far as why Largent was so pissed (as usual, it involved the Hawks getting screwed by the officials)..
This version is much cleaner, but not as long/complete in that it doesn’t show the lead in.
"Life does not cease to be funny when people die, anymore than it ceases to be serious when people laugh." - George Bernard Shaw
by Tyler Jorgensen on Feb 16, 2011 1:38 PM PST up reply actions
Um, a nitpick
The franchise was awarded in ‘75, but the team didn’t play until the ‘76-’77 season. But thanks for that memory of Largent’s hit. That was awesome to see again.
Well...
that’s a pretty serious nitpick given I threw two years in there for the creation of the team.
We’ve been around since 75/76
’75 team created.
The name Seattle Seahawks was selected on June 17, 1975
’76 first game played.
September 12, 1976, vs. the St. Louis Cardinals.
I think I covered my bases there.
I mean this in the most positive way, but….
Nitpick FAIL!
"Life does not cease to be funny when people die, anymore than it ceases to be serious when people laugh." - George Bernard Shaw
by Tyler Jorgensen on Feb 16, 2011 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
That's why
they call them nitpicks. Because they’re trivial. Usually meaningless. And really, some of you guys take things way too seriously.
Not sure where I'm taking it too seriously.
You are trying to correct something that isn’t wrong. In nitpicking, I would assume the thing questioned to be wrong.
"Life does not cease to be funny when people die, anymore than it ceases to be serious when people laugh." - George Bernard Shaw
by Tyler Jorgensen on Feb 16, 2011 6:05 PM PST up reply actions
Damn, that was an awesome hit!
And be glad you don’t have to endure the hell that is the Rosencopter or the Q-Tip. Those are the kinds of things that’ll make you want to drink bleach.
In fact, I may have to consume some bleach right now just for thinking about those moments, excuse me.
I am a visionary, I am a genius, and now I am angry! Now help me find my pants!
I have a plan, and it's so cunning you can brush your teeth with it!
by UprootedTexan on Feb 16, 2011 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
"Bo vs. Boz" is pretty well known.
Maybe Vinny Testaverde’s Phantom TD. The Romo Fumble is an obvious classic.
I hope years from now people will refer to Lynch’s awesome run as “Beast Mode”. Something more creative than simply “The Run.”
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
"Bo vs. Boz" is a farce.
Most overrated play in the history of the NFL.
Boz took on a full speed Bo Jackson from a semi-side position and brought him down 2 yards later.. just happened to be a yard into the endzone.
Dick Butkis, Ray Lewis, or Clay Matthews couldn’t have made that tackle alone.
That play doesn’t deserve to be remembered.
"Life does not cease to be funny when people die, anymore than it ceases to be serious when people laugh." - George Bernard Shaw
by Tyler Jorgensen on Feb 16, 2011 6:54 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
I agree that the play has been blown way out of proportion.
I have John Morgan’s book too, and he did an excellent analysis on the play that put it in the proper context.
Still, like it or not, it’s been ingrained into football lore.
Is that the light at the end of the tunnel, or the headlights of an oncoming train?
I absolutely hate the way people "remember" this play.
Jackson was the Golden Boy and people didn’t like “The Boz” persona, so they choose to believe what they want.
Suggestion for adding to the rules.
I’m tired of people questioning a player’s intensity, effort, heart, and intelligence.
Chris Spencer is the prototype for the “he’s lazy and stupid” argument, Hasselbeck the perpetual free pass for being gritty and wanting to win more than anyone.
I always hated when someone thought I wasn’t trying as hard as a little guy because I couldn’t do something they could. They never got shit for not being able to dunk or grab rebounds above the rim, but I was “lazy” because I couldn’t get down as low to the floor on defense.
That sort of assumption about a player’s “intangibles” is just bullshit outside perspective without any legitimacy, and what’s worse, there is often an implicit if not explicit racist bent in this kind of slander.
Honestly, I could care less about chatspeak, politics or fantasy talk. They pale in comparison to this.
Also… didn’t we sort of move to allowing fantasy talk in game threads and not giving complete scorn and ridicule for them? Everything else seems to be allowable in game threads, it seems rather trivial and… snooty.. to not allow it there. People are talking about beers, food, bad announcing, crappy commercials, but say a word about a play that benefits your fantasy team and you are suddenly a pariah? Not a fan.
The rest of the time, I absolutely agree. But game threads should be added to the rules as being allowable.
"Life does not cease to be funny when people die, anymore than it ceases to be serious when people laugh." - George Bernard Shaw
by Tyler Jorgensen on Feb 16, 2011 4:27 PM PST reply actions
Strongly disagree
Game threads are the only time fantasy talk should NOT be allowed. In a relatively off topic thread on some idle Wednesday? Go nuts. When the Seahawks are down by 21 in Week 10 of a losing season, fuck off with your annoying fantasy bullshit.
When the Hawks are down 21 in week 10 of a losing season?!?
That’s NEVER going to happen again, so don’t fucking worry about, okay?
But, in the context of it happening, remember the “rules” posted in the original fantasy football thread
The first rule of Fantasy Football, you do NOT root for players against your favorite team.
The second rule of Fantasy Football, you do NOT root for players against your favorite team.
Never NEVER EVER cheer against the Seahawks due to your fantasy roster. My personal rule is to avoid as much as possible acquiring division rivals, or to avoid playing them against the Seahawks if reasonably possible. Statements like, “Well, at least I have Larry Fitzgerald on my fantasy team” (if) he was scorching the Hawks will unleash the hounds of hell upon you. Avoid playing those guys. I have Boldin in one league, Beanie in another. Both will be sitting this week on principle. I suggest, STRONGLY, that you do the same. But if you don’t, please don’t be that one bastard playing the “Don’t Come” line at the craps table. Not only will you bring bad mojo to everybody, but you’ll likely get verbally harassed, if not banned. You’re a Seahawk fan, you aren’t “that guy” you are one of OUR guys—act like it!
To me, if they cut to Houston and Andre Johnson getting a 2nd TD and 155 yards, I think his owners should be able to rejoice within the community. But if Andre gets a TD against the Hawks, no, you absolutely shouldn’t say shit about it. It’s a tact thing. But I seriously can’t see the problem with trying to find some joy in what is overall a terrible Sunday. Particularly when you factor in the fact that, when I’m on a game thread, I AM alone other than the community I’m communicating with here. People say whatever they want stream of consciousness in game threads. To eliminate benign fantasy talk is trivial and mean-spirited.
I get it. If it is anti-Hawks it doesn’t deserve a place. But why should fantasy talk should be disallowed when other random talk is?!? You had a beer you like. Great. I don’t fucking care for some of the extended “beer snobbery” threads that exist here. I drink a lot of beer. Some I like, some I don’t. Moving on. I had a touchdown by my 2nd WR playing against Pittsburgh’s D. I’m happy and you don’t fucking care. But in both cases, people want to share, and at times other people want to listen. Demoting fantasy talk to an obscure thread NOT in the game, when the game thread is hard enough to keep up with alone is just not practical nor reasonable.
The beer comment gets no derision and the fantasy comment is followed by “Turnips are not very tasty, but I like purple cool aid if I’m drinking any.” And you can say, “But people are drinking beer and want to share.” I’ll respond that I fucking promise you at LEAST 50% of the people in the thread have fantasy teams.
If you don’t want to read the fantasy commentary, don’t. If I don’t feel like reading the beer commentary, I wont. Hey, that’s simple and fair for all.
(And for the record, I’m not anti-beer, nor do I spend the bulk of a game thread wanting to share fantasy talk. I just think it’s mean spirited to deride someone when something good happens to them that is away from the Hawks game… especially when the hawks game is going poorly.)
"Life does not cease to be funny when people die, anymore than it ceases to be serious when people laugh." - George Bernard Shaw
by Tyler Jorgensen on Feb 16, 2011 9:24 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
There are lots of sites dedicated to fantasy football.
It’d probably be more appropriate to take that kind of stuff up on those sites since Field Gulls tends to care very little about it.
I find it kind of ridiculous...
that the commentary is that basically ANYTHING GOES in a game thread… EXCEPT the rare fantasy football comment. And game threads are “in the moment” at that. Of course people blurt out about their fantasy team there— THEY’RE WATCHING FOOTBALL!!!!
It’s really kind of childish to draw a line in the sand and make it be the “anti-fantasy” line. Plus, at the end of the year John had pretty much said, “Yeah, we’re allowing it now.” So I was simply requesting it be added to the acceptable standards. I wasn’t the one who commented and argued for it to be allowed by the way when it was…
I do know that the first time I made a fantasy comment, one of the mods said something pretty rude in response, and I was a little put off. Anything else goes, but not that, and it was like sharks at feeding time… “Someone made a fantasy post, let’s jump on him for it!”
And I’m not about to go sit on a fantasy football site to chat during a game with a bunch of complete strangers. Yeah, that’s fun. We are a community, and while I don’t know anyone here in “real life” I do know many of you through your postings, as you do me. And part of being a member of a community is sharing things of importance with one another, and allowing others to share in a hospitable environment.
When people go off on random tangents that don’t interest me, I don’t go all dickhead on them. And I’m not anticipating game threads going off into extended fantasy commentary… but if someone says something about it, I just think we should not be assholes about it and mock them.
For the record, I wasn’t even told it was against the rules, I was just given an asinine statement as response.
Something like, “Man, I hope XXX performs well, I need the points in my fantasy matchup.”
Response: “I don’t like cauliflower, but I do like asparagus.”
That led to a back and forth that ended with, “Nobody cares what I like, and nobody cares about your fantasy team.”
I don’t understand that logic in a place where people share their favorite beers, their favorite video games, their favorite books, etc. For one thing… beers are often a topic in game threads, and I really don’t care what anyone is drinking or not drinking. And beer isn’t even football related. It IS related to the person who posted, and their particular interest at this time, but it isn’t even as related to the game of football as fantasy talk is. Also, I AM interested in fantasy questions and commentary. That shouldn’t mean we get banished to a random post off the game thread while beer doesn’t.
It’s a double standard, and I think it should stop being not only tolerated but celebrated.
"Life does not cease to be funny when people die, anymore than it ceases to be serious when people laugh." - George Bernard Shaw
by Tyler Jorgensen on Feb 17, 2011 2:38 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
It sounds like someone should have been nicer to you but I don't know that the rule needs to change.
You’re right though, John had pretty much lifted the no fantasy thing for gamethreads last season.
And the world didn't implode.
I’m a fan of moderation in general… would like that last year’s end “policy” even if unwritten, carries over.
Sadly lost in this is my bigger point about questioning a player’s intelligence, etc… I should have made two separate posts. The other is far more significant to me.
"Life does not cease to be funny when people die, anymore than it ceases to be serious when people laugh." - George Bernard Shaw
by Tyler Jorgensen on Feb 17, 2011 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
Really? Doesn't intelligence count on the field?
I don’t want some thin skinned person looking for racism because I say a player made a stupid play. There are some pretty stupid plays, you know. Occasionally committed by players who show a distinct lack of intelligence.
For example, Clements blowing a sure touchdown last year less than intelligent, or Desean Jackson celebrating a touchdown a yard early. How could questioning their intelligence be wrong?
There is plenty of racism in this world without looking for it under rocks and in posts that question intelligence.
By the way, the Hasseltoss was stupid.
by Harvey Manfrengenson on Aug 12, 2011 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
Which means Whiskey Chainsaw is asking for a zero tolerance ban on an old issue.
He asked for a ban on questioning heart, ethic, effort, and intelligence. Or words to that effect. So I am irrelevant for responding to his request because the thread in question ended 6 months ago? He didn’t make the request 6 months ago, he made it today. Or am I missing something?
by Harvey Manfrengenson on Aug 12, 2011 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Check the dates on the comments.
………………………………..down there
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70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
Dates? What dates?........oh those dates.
I honestly must admit I have never looked at those. I assumed this was a new thread. whoops.
by Harvey Manfrengenson on Aug 12, 2011 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
This has been up a couple times.
It’s a refresher that gets added to.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
I completely agree with Whiskey on this
I don’t think Fantasy talk takes anything away from the game thread, and is no more distracting than beers, movies, video games, etc. I haven’t played a video game since the N64 came out, but I don’t mind hearing about them. Sharing interests is one of the many things that makes this a great community, I don’t see how Fantasy Football is any different. (Absolutely with the caveat that in no way can your fantasy rooting take precedence over the Hawks!)
Just wanted to let you know that I didn't mean "your annoying fantasy bullshit" as "whiskey chainsaw's annoying fantasy bullshit", it was plural. I've never seen you post about FF to my knowledge.
And your point is well-taken my friend. Game threads are full of completely off-topic nonsense. I think the difference is that beer and literature and random youtube videos are completely outside the realm of football, while fantasy football talk is always about the NFL and always pertains to games happening that same day around the league. Something about taking solace in AP romping for 218 combined yards because he’s on your fantasy team while the Hawks rushing game is combining for 29 all-purpose yards just seems shitty to me. There’s a good chance that my stance on this is irrational.
Yeah... I took it that way a little.
Thanks for the clarification.
Although by the time I elaborated more fully I wasn’t nearly as fired up, and had more than “forgiven” you, hahah!
I actually was supposed to post the weekly fantasy football fanpost for people to dialogue on, and next year I’ll do a much better job of it. (Assuming I don’t end up with another 50 hour a week job… but right now I’d take ANY job.)
"Life does not cease to be funny when people die, anymore than it ceases to be serious when people laugh." - George Bernard Shaw
by Tyler Jorgensen on Feb 17, 2011 8:49 PM PST up reply actions
Reading Before You Post
I’ve been guilty of posting something similar a few times and then finding it earlier on the thread.. I’m working on reading the thread fully.
That can be a tough one if you're not on the right page.
I’ve posted fanshots that I thought no one had only to go to the Front page and find them half way down.
Whoops. Time to delete.
And some times the threads are looooooong.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
by hazbro24 on Apr 26, 2011 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
This is why we need rules like this.
Quite possibly the funniest thread I have ever read.
http://www.bleedinggreennation.com/2010/5/2/1455318/why-jeremy-maclyn-isnt-good
Eddie Izzard ran 43 marathons in 51 days with 5 weeks of training. What's stopping you?
Not sure if clever satire or just retarded
either way it’s hilarious
Apparently Pete Carroll doesn’t like how Charlie Whitehurst holds a clipboard
by hawksfan1401 on Aug 12, 2011 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm half way through the comments
I’m gonna say retarded.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
It has to be satire. Halfway through the comments the OP says that DHB rules.
Even Corky from Life Goes On knows that isn’t true.
by Harvey Manfrengenson on Aug 12, 2011 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but they're bring up stuff from another thread
where the OP was a complete idiot too.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
Who wrote that garbage?
A contributor to SB or the guy who runs the Eagles SB site?
Because that was one of the most unprofessional blogs I have ever read.
by The Great Googly on Aug 12, 2011 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions
as a former SBN mod
I approve of this post and discussion.
by southern oregon on Aug 12, 2011 4:20 PM PDT reply actions
The Game thread last night was pretty bad sometimes
by The Great Googly on Aug 12, 2011 4:31 PM PDT reply actions
It was just a preseason game thread
We haven’t had enough time to gel as a group. Its just dumb to expect perfection from the first preseason thread of the season when we’ve got all sorts of new posters to incorporate. Also, the heroics of the second game thread were mostly against 2nd- and 3rd-string commenters, so take them with a grain of salt.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Aug 12, 2011 4:48 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
We will be monitoring them a bit more stringently.
I was not around, so I missed a lot of it. As always, please use the flag feature so mods can quickly zone in on bad behavior.
I would add that when mods do get involved
they should wield that authority appropriately, not as a free pass to be disrespectful or condescending to posters when it’s not called for. Not that it’s a recurrent problem, but it happens.
Portis > Elway
We need to lose
So we can get a good bitch thread going.
I went whale watching the other day. I think. There were a lot of people in that lake.
by SSreporters on Aug 12, 2011 7:48 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I miss the original comments to this post
Where some San Diago guy chimes in with, “sounds pretty elitist to me.” It was my personal meme for several months.
Efren Herrera is my spirit animal
"Spam: One and you're done"
Does this count?

I went whale watching the other day. I think. There were a lot of people in that lake.
That picture makes me hormely.
I think I know enough of hate/ To say that for destruction Rice/ Is also great/ And would suffice.
I don't get the no chatspeak rule
Just seems like there are about a billion more important things to make rules about. Like most things, if it’s abused, it’s worse than getting a skylight installed in your skull.
Is all non-chatspeak-derived slang just fine then? I’m old, so I only use chatspeak when I’m texting or when I’m tubing the upper reaches of the Danube. But for the rest of fandom’s fine peeps, there are many more important battles to fight, no?
by PerryCollective on Aug 12, 2011 10:53 PM PDT reply actions
I get it.
Chatspeak first of all is a bit generational, and second, has a way of devolving. Nobody wants to spend all their time deciphering acronyms.
And reading “I just sprayed coffee all over my screen” is so much more rewarding for the author than “lol”.
by Harvey Manfrengenson on Aug 13, 2011 5:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Speaking of acronyms
I wish we could get rid of this QPM nonsense.
Chatspeak is for 16 year old girls.
by m_b on Aug 13, 2011 8:05 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions
QPM was just a juvenile attempt to be dismissive and insulting
of the FO/HC that shipped away a couple of fan favorites.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Aug 13, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
So the origin was a comment rejecting the notion that the FO made a good move?
AND it completely misstates the relationship between Pete and John AND its main purpose seems to be to call a man a “Queen”? Maybe I got the origin story wrong, but I’ve seldom seen the term used in a positive or neutral fashion. Its a dumb attempt at an insulting nickname and should have been long retired.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Aug 13, 2011 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
It's main purpose was never to call John Schneider a queen, that's ridiculous.
It’s just that when he was originally hired it didn’t look like he’d have much power, that he’d be a figure head. We know now that it’s not completely accurate but it’s still a quick way to refer to the FO and Carroll.
And that comment wasn’t rejecting the notion that they made a good move, just that trading Seneca for a late round pick doesn’t show any particular brilliance on their part.
"This isn't very important" is rarely a good reason not to moderate something
It’s the little things that help keep a community on track.
We encourage good writing and by extension discourage chatspeak as English is universal and chatspeak is not. It can be confusing, distracting or annoying, and most of all the use of chatspeak never has a valid purpose in a comments system like this one (except to be hipster ironic, I guess).
Formerly Known As Vasilii
by Thomas Beekers on Aug 13, 2011 6:37 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

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