2010 Season Retrospective: Golden Tate
Highlights
Golden Tate rumbles, bumbles and stumbles for 63. Seahawks take the ball.
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Tate breaks a weak jam attempt by Andre' Goodman. Eight yards into his route, he opens his shoulders towards Hasselbeck while continuing to run down the left sideline, telegraphing the pass. Tate waits for a floating pass, jumps, spins, receives. Goodman runs himself out of bounds. Tate cuts inside and begins to sprint across the field. D.J. Williams tracks him from behind, but Tate spins through Williams' tackle attempt and continues right and away from Renaldo Hill. He looks surprised by his own ability. Instead of running up field and towards the end zone, Tate takes jab steps up field while running primarily horizontally. That give Brian Dawkins time to catch up from behind, and Dawkins tackles Tate after a gain of 52.
The reception is both exciting and frustrating.
Screen attempt to Golden Tate that doesn't work and yet still succeeds. Tyler Polumbus is not fast enough into the left flat and Tate has to dodge Kevin Burnett almost immediately after receiving the pass. That slows everything down and allows the Chargers to rally and tackle. Apart from Polumbus, this could have been a solid play. At one point, Tate has four blockers, including an ardent John Carlson.
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That put Seattle in third and long. Seattle converted. Golden Tate broke the jam attempt by Quentin Jammer (Tate was off the line of scrimmage, which helps) attained inside position and received and ran for 11 and the first.
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Matt nearly Hasselsacked himself on the next play. He looked right, pumped right, looked off Forsett on the left, began to scramble, I began to clench my sphincter, but calmer heads prevailed. Hasselbeck found Tate on the left, well covered, but Golden one-handed the reception and put Seattle at the two.
Seahawks at Raiders
3-16-SEA 16 (8:42) (Shotgun) 8-M.Hasselbeck pass short right to 81-G.Tate to SEA 28 for 12 yards (33-T.Branch).
Defenders within 10 yards: 11
This is an interesting play, because it's clearly a passing down and Hasselbeck is actually in shotgun, but the Raiders are still playing very close to the line. Nine are within five and the Raiders two deep safeties are exactly 10 yards away from the line of scrimmage. Oakland is set to defend the pass--the short pass.
And that works, because Oakland's two safeties combine to stop Golden Tate.
First there's pressure, as Polumbus blows his block, but Hasselbeck steps up. Tate slows and waves open and Michael Huff closes on him from behind. Hasselbeck passes to Tate, Tate is able to spin through Huff's tackle and then continues up the right sideline. It almost works, but strong safety Tyvon Branch has the angle. He squares and contains Tate up the right sideline, waits for him to arrive and hits Tate and forces him out of bounds well short of the first.
I think of this play as just about the very definition of "no space underneath because of no threat over top." Both safeties are primed to stop the underneath route and both safeties combine to stop the underneath route.
Lowlights
Chargers at Seahawks
Seahawks attempt a wide receiver screen and the play breaks down at three separate points. Antwan Applewhite rushes around right end and tips the pass. Donald Strickland sits on the route and closes on Branch as he's attempting to scoop the tumbling pass. Antoine Cason throws off a block attempt by Golden Tate and is free in the left flat. So you see, it didn't work.
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Golden Tate receives on a slant and, for whatever reason we will never know, somersaults for his final yard. He stands, ball in hands, as an official shouts at him to hand it over. Tate's progress stops with 29 seconds left on the game clock and Seattle snaps and clocks the football with 19 seconds remaining. Tate may be a knucklehead but he didn't cost Seattle points.
Seahawks at Bears I
The first drive started with Marshawn Lynch battling Matt Toeaina in the backfield and wound down with back-to-back drops by John Carlson and Golden Tate.
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Tate drops another pass, but this time, the suckiness of dropping the pass is a component of Tate's inability to gain separation. He runs up to and curls in front of Tillman and Tillman is on him like a DEA dog. Peanut closes and slaps it away incomplete.
Seahawks at Raiders
2-1-OAK 33 (:28) (Shotgun) 8-M.Hasselbeck pass incomplete deep right to 81-G.Tate (23-J.Ware).
Defenders within five: 10
Defenders within 10: 11
Marshall rushes eight. Eight. Eight. Eight. Christ do I not miss that guy.
Golden Tate is matched one-on-one against Jeremy Ware. Because pressure is pretty much never instantaneous, and a quarterback almost always has time to throw -- however much people want to warp reality to give the offensive line supernatural powers of failure -- Matt is able to loft it high towards Tate running up the right sideline. He throws flat footed, which is something I notice he does quite a bit, and it's a slow, hanging pass, but accurate. Tate high points it and receives but the heel of his left foot falls out of bounds as he lands. Incomplete.
Eight.
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3-1-OAK 33 (:23) (Shotgun) 8-M.Hasselbeck pass incomplete short right to 81-G.Tate
Defenders within five: 9
Defenders within 10: 11
Matt is pissed. Not to profile, but given the parties involved, I assume Tate ran the wrong route.
Raiders show blitz but rush only five. Seattle retains seven. Tate runs a curl in the right flat, and Hasselbeck targets as if throwing to a fade. It falls incomplete.
Matt is pissed.
I am starting to understand why.
Chiefs at Seahawks
Hasselbeck takes the snap and looks left. He could probably pepper it in to Carlson. That looks like the best decision, but he's pretty locked on to Tate. He throws the fade, and it's not really a bad pass, but Carr wins position and Tate is forced into attempting something only Mike Williams and a handful of other receivers can do consistently: catch a pass over and in front of a defender.
He doesn't. Tate just doesn't have the reach. And the Seahawks turn the ball over on downs.
Outlook: This is not comprehensive. I have quite a few games to break down and provide notes for. Look for those next week. Luckily, Golden Tate wasn't very involved for most of the season, so an incomplete retrospective is appropriate.
Not involved, not active, not activated -- that is the shorthand summary of Tate's season. He was inactive in week one. He missed three weeks because of an ankle injury. He didn't see a snap against the Falcons. Tate wasn't technically "inactive" but he was bench bound.
Which isn't so bad, honestly. We knew Tate was raw, and though his rookie season was a disappointment, it wasn't damning. If you compare Tate to teammate Deon Butler, who turned 25 about a month ago, you can see the difference between disappointing and damning. Now, maybe Butler can turn his career around and become a valuable receiver, but he isn't struggling with recognition, route running or execution. In his short career, Butler has looked overmatched. He isn't promising but mistake prone. Butler looks finished, or polished if you'd rather.
Tate, by contrast, is more than two and half years younger. 125 of his 227 yards receiving were achieved through run after catch. The core abilities that made him intriguing translated to the NFL: quickness, coordination, ability to track the ball in flight, power, but he is frustratingly mistake prone. Tate was so mistake prone, it kept him off the field. If I remember correctly, his rate of blown assignments was something like one in four, as quoted by Carroll. That sloppiness permeated his play. Tate would sometimes run the wrong route. He seemed to have little situational awareness, as evidenced by his somersault against the Chargers. Tate was bumbling even in his finest moments. As a receiver, he is anathema to Matt Hasselbeck.
And, as-is, Tate is anathema to a successful passing attack. Rhythm, timing and spacing are factors in a single goal: completing a pass. Even if a receiver is the nth read, he needs to time his route, space it properly and be synchronized with his quarterback and the greater team. Tate doesn't do that so Tate doesn't see the field. Until he does, it doesn't matter how talented he is. However, young, talented and unrefined is a welcome change from surprisingly old and maxed out. Tate may never fulfill his potential, but he potential is thrilling.
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Tate reminds me a lot like Curry, but with a huge difference.
They’re both incredibly talented, but frustratingly erratic. However I give a much-much longer leash to Tate for my frustrations cause he was a few spots away from being a third round pick. I think we would be smiling pretty wide if we had a third rounder show some of his flashes he has this year.
I think Tate has a high ceiling...
but I don’t know that he will ever reach it. He is talented with the ball in his hands, but his route running is sloppy, hands are suspect and he just never seemed to make the transition thru the year. That being said, it does/can take a few years for WR’s to get it in the NFL. I’d still rather draft Titus Young from Boise St. (DeSean 2.0) in the 2nd round this year to have a player that can really stretch the defense, even though we have so many other needs. Having someone who can take the top off the D, really helps the run game and the QB, whoever that is.
Lo there is my father
The last two sentences are a perfect summary
I’m glad we have a player who will hopefully grow into a quality receiver, instead of players like Housh, Branch, or to some extent Burleson.
This sums up Tates rookie season
The reception is both exciting and frustrating.
" I began to clench my sphincter, but calmer heads prevailed"
this sentence could potentially be taken badly out of context…
My biggest issue with Tate - and it appears that you've pretty well implied it - is that he was not a good fit for the quarterback.
Golden Tate is fast and has decent moves to get away from guys once he has the ball in his hands. However, Hasselbeck just lacks ability in the two things that would make him effective – throwing the ball way downfield, behind coverage, and throwing screens. He’s not big enough to be counted on to get the ball over the middle or on a slant route the way a Mike Williams is. Really, his issues are much the same as Deion Branch’s, and we all saw how Branch suddenly seemed to improve once the Pats got him back. He did do a couple of stupid things last year with the muffed punt and the somersault, but is that enough to call him a bust? As you say, no way.
I don’t even know that he’s “disappointing” at this point. His performance compared to what the Seahawks expect out of him is disappointing, maybe, but Golden Tate is Golden Tate.
i think most of you are off
What did you expect from a raw rookie? Demaryus Thomas is another rookie wr that sucked last year, Crabtree probably has more talent than all of them but his 2nd year was nothing to write home about. The reason? Very few wr are on Larry Fitzgeralds level, they don’t come out of college and turn into stars right away. Wr is much like qb in the sense that players take years to develop. In fantasy football there is a saying that you want high talent wr going into their 3rd year, since that’s when most of them breakout. Luckily I listened to that advice and drafted dwayne bowe in all my teams last year. Even though he put up top 5 wr numbers thus year, his first six or so games were atrocious. Even in his breakout year three the first part of the season was downright bad. But over his last 10, he was the best wr in football.
The point? Golden Tate is no different now then when he was drafted. He was never going to be good his first year. He probably won’t be that good next year although a lot of advancement is probable. But this is no surprise, its how most wr develop, especially ones as raw as rate.
by plyka on Feb 3, 2011 4:40 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Even for a rookie receiver Tate did not produce.
And Demaryius Thomas came out of Georgia Tech’s triple option offense, it’s a little more understanding why he wasn’t able to get involved.
Yeah, Tate came from a pro-style offense
so you’d think he’d be better able to adjust than a guy from, say, a spread offense.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Feb 3, 2011 8:23 PM PST up reply actions
It's not about the offense
It is irrelevant to a large extent if they came from a “pro-style offense” in college, since there is no such thing as a pro-style offense in college. They are all college offenses and at best resemble the pro offenses in slight, vague ways.
Not to mention that the issue is building chemistry, understanding reads, running routes, etc. It doesn’t matter what offense you come from. Just like Jake Locker is not going to have a leg up on someone from a spread offense. He’ll have to go through all of the learning curves as well.
That's pretty much the opposite of what I've heard and read
Pro-style means something and WRs/QBs from those systems have requirements that are closer to NFL responsibilities than WRs/QBs in pro offenses. That has nothing to do with their talent/skill/size/mind.
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Feb 3, 2011 9:12 PM PST up reply actions
There are no two offenses more different than a Charlie Weis pro style offense and a Paul Johnson triple option.
Tate should have been a much more skilled route runner than Thomas coming out of college. It’s understandable that a project like Demaryius Thomas would struggle to learn the offense and get on the field, it is much less understandable that Tate seems to be having an even harder time.
This just isn't true...
“It is irrelevant to a large extent if they came from a "pro-style offense" in college, since there is no such thing as a pro-style offense in college. They are all college offenses and at best resemble the pro offenses in slight, vague ways.”
Coaches that have been in both the NFL and college don’t suddenly have vastly different offenses that resemble their own offense in “slight vague ways.” Sark was a pro guy and college guy, back and forth. And Weis, in particular, was an NFL guy first and foremost, and his offense was accordingly HIS offense— an NFL PRO STYLE offense.
"Life does not cease to be funny when people die, anymore than it ceases to be serious when people laugh." - George Bernard Shaw
by Tyler Jorgensen on Feb 4, 2011 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
Demaryius Thomas
was a 1st round pick. In fact, he was selected AHEAD of Dez Bryant and was the first WR off the board! Um, yeah, i think more was expected of the 1st WR off the board than Golden TAte.
Why was he the first WR off the board?
Was it because he was a raw but physical freak selected by a monomanical mad man?
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Feb 3, 2011 9:13 PM PST up reply actions
And Tate had a lower upside but was more polished?
by Greetings from the Lord Humongous! on Feb 3, 2011 9:18 PM PST up reply actions
In Tate's defense, Thomas was actually PLAYING in Denver this past season.
Even coming out of a pro-style offense Tate is unpolished….and it’s hard to get polish from the bench. Maybe he’ll figure it out and maybe he won’t, but Tate won’t get any better if the Seahawks refuse to throw to him (or refuse to get a QB that can properly utilize him).
I actually think that Tate may have had alot to do with Bates leaving and Bevell getting hired
Bates couldn’t figure out how to use Tate. He dabled all season, but didn’t reall make it work. Bevell has succeeded at using a rookie WR like Tate.
So is Bevell going to be dumping Hasselbeck then?
Because I for one just don’t see any Hasselbeck-run offense being able to do anything with him.
5 yards is clearly too far for the man to throw.
Srsly though, Hass has never been that great in leading teams towards him and then tossing it off at the last second like you need with a good screen pass.
Kinda makes you miss Dave Kreig and JL Williams
Our offense used to live off of the dump off to the FB. Take that to the modern day and put Tate and Forsett out into the flats and a QB that could do something with and you might have something. Spreading out the D opens up the run and the long passing games. Too bad Matt has never been that good at anything that I just said. CW could do the long part, but his dump off passes are about as good as Matt’s.
I loved watching JL take a swing pass or screen
He was so agile for a man his size.
The patchwork O-line probably has something to do with our inability to run a typical screen, but the eons it takes the ball to get out to the WRs probably is a contributing factor to our relative lack of success on the bubble WR screens.
If anything...
Tate’s lack of production indicates a lack of rapport between him and Hasselbeck. Tate makes enough mistakes to make any quarterback… but probably especially Matt, think twice before throwing it to him.
Tate has an interesting mix of skills that don't really typify a successful WR
He has great ball skills but really isn’t large enough to truly take advantage of them. He has good YAC ability but lacks the ability to separate and get open. His route running problems are well documented.
The type of play that Tate should be able to execute with his eyes closed is the bubble screen, but either he didn’t set himself apart in that area or he was just plain underutilized.
The other type of play in which he would seem to excel is the deep ball. Tate has excellent speed and can win jump ball situations. Mostly though he needs a quarterback that can get the ball deep and we are all familiar with Hasselbeck’s limitations in this department.
Hopefully Tate is given more time. It is clear he lacks some pretty basic WR IQ as it pertains to route running and getting open. We may forget that this guy hasn’t been playing the position all that long.
Hopefully Tate will get throws from a QB that can throw a Bubble Screen and a decent long ball.
Because #8 isn’t that man. Coming out of college Tate was essentially a RB/WR hybrid, but instead of playing to that strength the Seahawks appear to be turning Tate into a “real” WR, which is going to take time. Either that, or the QB/OC combo were unable to play Tate like they should.
Butler: Giving up hope?
I know that this post is about Tate, but I wondered about brief references to Butler. Is the collective opinion that he is unlikely to pan out? Or is he another young WR that may yet blossom into something productive?
he really hasn't separated himself
as of now our top 3 would have to be: BMW, Stokely and Obomanu
I just hope that when they rebuild his leg that he doesn't lose any speed
Leon’s injury didn’t hurt any soft tissue, so no decrease in performance once he was healed. I haven’t heard the same about Butler.
I wouldn't be that surprised to see Butler out the league in a couple years
I love his attitude, but he hasn’t shown that much outside of his superior speed, so if he loses a step, it doesn’t look good.
Here is hoping for a full and quick recovery, as I really like the kid.
Wow, I had forgotten about him. Good kid.
Unfortunately, another heralded draft prospect that just hasn’t met expectations. Hopefully, we will have a new QB throwing passes soon in order to better evaluate Butler and Tate.
Given time and experience, Tate will be an exciting WR2 for us, as well as slot mismatch. .
He is very adept at run after the catch and open-field moves, acceleration and big-play ability. As with most young receivers he just needs to learn. The talent is definitely there and the post is right on the button: it’s thrilling to think about just how good he can be. He has a very high ceiling.
Hasseldone.
I am just not so sure he has the Jerry Rice / Larry Fitzgerald off-field work ethic and motivation to hone his ability
If Tate works hard perfecting his route running and hands all offseason and really studies film (e.g. where to sit down in a zone, how to read a defense and break his route off the correct way based on what the defense shows), I think he could be special. I have no idea if he feels he needs to or where his head is.
Tate has shown a couple flashes of genius and should suprise next year.
I understand Golden has had some frustrating moments in his rookie campaign, thus being said I think its way too early to peg him as an underachieving. I see him adjusting his game and working hard in the off-season to adapt and get himself open. he’s strong and relatively fast but i think he has great hands and that certain 6th sense you need to be a good WR. As for Deon if he gets back to even 85% speed he’s still faster than half the players in the league so don’t throw the towl in on him either. All in all i think Receiving and TE play as well as depth are solid on our team right now and we should be happy to have that many good prospects and proven WR’s on offense, but the debate remains can we get whoever our QB is enough time to throw to them?
"I was 11 or 12 and Quinton was like 30. He was the only dude on the Pop Warner team who had a full mustache and a beard. And he used to drive to Pop Warner games. You're not supposed to be doing that. It was crazy." -Marshawn Lynch
I suspect one of the main reasons Bates was replaced with Bevell was the underdevelopment of Golden and Deon2.0.
Tate seems to have the same set of tools as Harvin, and the coaches kept saying Butler had the best offseason of all the wideouts. Also noticed that, albeit with a better line, not nearly as many hands were on the Minnesota ballcarrier before he got to the line of scrimmage.
Anyone else notice the offense went to shit the very instant of Mack Strong’s last play? And the last time it was truly dangerous before Mack was when John L was suited up? No wonder Ruskell kept drafting fullbacks. Any notion on Michael Robinson’s return? Is there another John L in the draft?

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