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So far three names have been connected to the Seahawks in regards to the open QB Coach position.  Tom Clements, current QB coach of the Packers.  Carl Smith former QB coach of the Cleveland Browns, and former QB coach for Carroll at USC. Finally our favored son Jim Zorn former QB coach for the Ravens.   One way to look at how effective a coach is to look at the stats of the players , either before or after the Coach, coached them, and see the overall changes those QB’s made.  Let’s take a look at each coach individually.

Tom Clements: Coaching career

For the purposes of this analysis I’m going to ignore, Notre Dame as Clements only coached one QB of note Rick Mirer, and that was only in 1992 after which Mirer was in the NFL.  The Saints I’ll also ignore because none of the players he coached did anything before or after he coached them, dark years for the Saint let’s start with the Chiefs and Elvis Grbac.


Player Year G GS CMP ATT cmp% yds td Ints
Grbac, Elvis 1999 16 16 294 499 58.91784 3389 22 15

2001 14 14 265 467 56.74518 3033 15 18
Non Clements Average
15 15 279.5 483 57.83151 3211 18.5 16.5
Clements Coached 2000 15 15 326 547 59.59781 4169 28 14
Difference in %
0 0 16.63685 13.25052 3.054213 29.83494 51.35135 -15.1515


As you can see while being coached by Clements, Grbac saw his cmp% go up by 3% his yards go up by 30%, his TD’s go up by 51%, and his Interceptions go down by 15% Next up Kordell Stewart


Player Year G GS CMP ATT cmp% yds td Ints
Stewart, Kordell 1997 16 16 236 440 53.63636 3020 21 17
Stewart, Kordell 1998 16 16 252 458 55.02183 2560 11 18
Stewart, Kordell 1999 16 12 160 275 58.18182 1464 6 10
Stewart, Kordell 2000 16 11 151 282 53.5461 1860 11 8
Before Clements Average
16 13.75 199.75 363.75 55.09653 2226 12.25 13.25
Clements Coached 2001 16 16 266 442 60.181 3109 14 11
Difference
0 16.36364 33.16646 21.51203 9.228289 39.66757 14.28571 -16.9811



As you can see here while being coached by Clements, Stewart’s completion percentage went up by 9%, his yards went up by 40%, his TD’s went up by 14%, and his INT’s went down by 17% One thing of note here is Tommy Maddox.  Tommy Maddox, was the QB for PIT after Stewart, he came from nowhere, became a revelation, then after Clements left, disappeared so there are no before or after stats to analyze. Then of course is Aaron Rodgers, he had no stats before Clements, but has been a complete stud. The Total amount of measurable differences made by Clements coaching  is an uptick of about 6% in completion percentage, 35% in yards, 33% in TD’s, and 16% less interceptions Ok next up Carl Smith first proposed by Eric Williams of The News Tribune, Carl smith has previous history with Carroll in that he coached the QB’s in NE, when Carroll, was coach there, and also coached QB’s at USC for a year. Carl Smith:


Coaching career (HC unless noted)
1986-1996
1997-1999
2001-2003
2004
2005-2007
2009
New Orleans Saints (OC/QB)
New England Patriots (QB; TE)
Cleveland Browns (QB)
USC (QB)
Jacksonville Jaguars (OC)
Cleveland Browns (QB)


There is some College experience before this but it’s not really valuable. New Orleans Bobby Hebert


Player Year G GS CMP ATT CMP% YDS TDS INT
Hebert, Bobby 1987 12 12 164 294 55.78231 2119 15 9
Carl Smith Coached 1988 16 16 280 478 58.57741 3156 20 15

1989 14 13 222 353 62.88952 2686 15 15

1991 9 9 149 248 60.08065 1676 9 8

1992 16 16 249 422 59.00474 3287 19 16
Average
13.4 13.2 212.8 359 59.26692 2584.8 15.6 12.6
Post Carl Smith 1993 14 12 263 430 61.16279 2978 24 17

1996 14 13 294 488 60.2459 3152 22 25
Average
14 12.5 278.5 459 60.70435 3065 23 21
Difference
-4.28571 5.6 -23.5907 -21.7865 -2.36791 -15.6672 -32.1739 -40


With Smith coaching Hebert his cmp% went slightly down by a little over 2%, however his yards went up 15%, td’s were up 32%, and his int’s went down 40% New Orleans-Jim Everett


Player Year G GS CMP ATT CMP% YDS TDS INT
Everett, Jim 1987 11 11 162 302 53.64238 2064 10 13
Pre Carl Smith 1988 16 16 308 517 59.57447 3964 31 18

1989 16 16 304 518 58.68726 4310 29 17

1990 16 16 307 554 55.41516 3989 23 17

1991 16 16 277 490 56.53061 3438 11 20

1992 16 16 281 475 59.15789 3323 22 18

1993 10 9 135 274 49.27007 1652 8 12
Average
14.42857 14.28571 253.4286 447.1429 56.03969 3248.571 19.14286 16.42857
Carl Smith Coached 1994 16 16 346 540 64.07407 3855 22 18

1995 16 16 345 567 60.84656 3970 26 14

1996 15 15 267 464 57.5431 2797 12 16
Average
15.66667 15.66667 319.3333 523.6667 60.82125 3540.667 20 16
Difference
8.580858 9.666667 26.00526 17.11395 8.532439 8.991498 4.477612 -2.6087


Here Smith’s Coaching didn’t make much of a difference although cmp% went up over 8%, yards went up 9%, TD’s a little over 4%, and INT’s went down a little over 2 %  NE Patriots-Drew Bledsoe


Player Year G GS CMP ATT CMP% YDS TDS INT
Bledsoe, Drew 1993 13 12 214 429 49.88345 2494 15 15
Pre Carl Smith 1994 16 16 400 691 57.88712 4555 25 27

1995 15 15 323 636 50.78616 3507 13 16

1996 16 16 373 623 59.87159 4086 27 15
Post Carl Smith 2000 16 16 312 531 58.75706 3291 17 13

2002 16 16 375 610 61.47541 4359 24 15

2003 16 16 274 471 58.1741 2860 11 12

2004 16 16 256 450 56.88889 2932 20 16

2005 16 16 300 499 60.12024 3639 23 17
Average
15.55556 15.44444 314.1111 548.8889 57.09378 3524.778 19.44444 16.22222
Carl Smith Coached 1997 16 16 314 522 60.15326 3706 28 15

1998 14 14 262 481 54.46985 3633 20 14

1999 16 16 305 539 56.58627 3985 19 21
Average
15.33333 15.33333 293.6667 514 57.06979 3774.667 22.33333 16.66667
Difference
-1.42857 -0.71942 -6.50867 -6.35628 -0.04201 7.089493 14.85714 2.739726


Drew Bledsoe is the first real Big name Smith coached, during his coaching which came in the middle of Bledsoe’s career we see a worse comp% although only by .04 of a percent, however 7% more yards passing, 15% more td’s, but also almost 3% MORE int’s. The measurably Net Carl Smith effect appears to be a slight increase in cmp% to the tune of 2%, yards are about even so no effect there, 4% less td’s, and 13% less ints. Also of note are the following names that Carl Smith coached, and amusingly enough are all first round busts, but not enough data to analyze, before/after to analyze. Tim Couch(Cle), Bryon Leftwich(Jac), Brady Quinn(Cle), and Matt Lienart(whom he coached at USC) On the whole not a very impressive resume, and if Carroll hires this yahoo again I’ll scream Now last, but not Least our favored son Jimmy. Jim Zorn: Professional assistant coaching career

Professional head coaching career

Really 1997-2000 don’t count as coaching Warren Moon, for a year and a half, with half going to Kitna, and Detroits, running out of Charlie Batch really shouldn’t be considered because there is no depth of data here to collect and analyze.  So Starting with Matt. Seattle Seahawks-Matt Hasselbeck


Player Year G GS CMP ATT CMP% YDS TDS INT
Hasselbeck, Matt 2001 13 12 176 321 54.82866 2023 7 8
Zorn Coached 2002 16 10 267 419 63.72315 3075 15 10

2003 16 16 313 513 61.01365 3841 26 15

2004 14 14 279 474 58.86076 3382 22 15

2005 16 16 294 449 65.47884 3459 24 9

2006 12 12 210 371 56.60377 2442 18 15

2007 16 16 352 562 62.63345 3966 28 12
Average
14.71429 13.71429 270.1429 444.1429 60.4489 3169.714 20 12
Post Zorn 2008 7 7 109 209 52.15311 1216 5 10

2009 14 14 293 488 60.04098 3029 17 17

2010 14 14 266 444 59.90991 3001 12 17
Average
11.66667 11.66667 222.6667 380.3333 57.368 2415.333 11.33333 14.66667
Difference
26.12245 17.55102 21.32164 16.77726 5.370409 31.233 76.47059 -18.1818


Ok as you can see Matty’s completion percentage was up a little over  5%, yards 31%, TD’s 76%, and INT’s down 18% with Zorn coaching him.  Now in his stint as Redksins HC Washington Redskins-Jason Campbell Note:2007=PreZorn, 2010=Post-Zorn


Player Year G GS CMP ATT CMP% YDS TDS INT
Campbell, Jason 2007 13 13 250 417 59.95204 2700 12 11

2010 13 12 194 329 58.96657 2387 13 8
Average
13 12.5 222 373 59.4593 2543.5 12.5 9.5
 Zorn Coached 2008 16 16 315 506 62.25296 3245 13 6

2009 16 16 327 507 64.49704 3618 20 15
Average
16 16 321 506.5 63.375 3431.5 16.5 10.5
Difference
23.07692 28 44.59459 35.79088 6.585515 34.91252 32 10.52632

Here you can see with Zorn coaching Campbell his cmp% went up over 6%, his yards went up almost 35%, his Td’s went up 32%, and his INT’s went up 10%. Now finally Baltimore Ravens-Joe Flacco


Flacco, Joe 2008 16 16 257 428 60.04673 2971 14 12

2009 16 16 315 499 63.12625 3613 21 12
Average
16 16 286 463.5 61.58649 3292 17.5 12

2010 16 16 306 489 62.57669 3622 25 10
Difference
0 0 6.993007 5.501618 1.607814 10.0243 42.85714 -16.6667


Coaching Flacco, Zorn barely nudged his completion % up over 1%, but increased yards 10%, Td’s almost 43%, and decreased INT almost 17% So the Cumulative Zorn effect is a little over 4% in completion percentage, 25% more yards, 50% more TD’s, and 8% less INTs
I would have to say of the three Tom Clements, and Jim Zorn are the obvious no brainer candidates, and Carl Smith should be out based on stats alone of course.



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