Newest Seahawk James Carpenter - My Scouting Report
James Carpenter will be plugged in and play on Day One, either at guard or tackle. This versatility and pro-readiness is why I feel that the Seahawks were high on him. And more importantly,while I believe that Carpenter will play guard, he projects well at the pro level even at left tackle.
At six-foot-four and three-eighths of an inch, three hundred twenty-one pounds, and a thirty-four inch arm reach, Carpenter has good size and frame, but he is not the most physically gifted tackle in the class; he's not the most fluid or agile athlete, but has good body control and coordination for a 320+ pound man, and is a superior leverage blocker.
I watched the Alabama games against Florida, Arkansas, and LSU, games that should provide enough of a sample size and an accurate insight into Carpenter's game. I watched every play, rewinding most of them, and wrote down my thoughts in simple notation form, which you will see after the jump. He graded out very well, in both pass protection and run blocking.
Carpenter is an above-average pass protector and an even better run blocker. He is not a technician, nor is he a mauler; Carpenter is, as I said, a superior leverage blocker, one with a powerful base. That is, he wins at the point of attack because his position and leverage, relative to his man, is lower in height consistently and he moors himself firmly.
While Carpenter doesn't have bulk in his legs, he has a powerful, powerful base in his hips and knees, which allows him to sponge up strong impact upon contact, and he has the overall body power to push guys off the line of scrimmage. And while Carpenter isn't naturally concaved, and he doesn't possess a naturally bent knee, his knees however, are constantly bent in his movements.
In pass protection, I generally see him getting off the line quickly, if not before his man, but quick enough that he loses no advantage to his man. He mirrors well and keeps his feet active. He doesn't often dominate his man, in the sense that he would toy with him, but he will very frequently win positioning on him; he very rarely loses to his man. He could do with playing with his hands higher, rather than at his hips.
In the run department, he doesn't maul his man two or three yards off the line of scrimmage and throws him to the ground, which is rare anyway, but he rarely ever loses ground and generates push consistently. As a tackle, he created outside lanes for the running game very well, stunting forward progress of his man and controlling his man either to the outside or the inside, a fact that Mark Ingram and Trent Richardson enjoyed while achieving tremendous success in running the ball.
Here is where Carpenter graded positively:
- Solid hand placement skills when engaged. Gets them inside and high often enough.
- Knees consistently bent, even in motion.
- Consistent arm extension.
- Quick enough response off the snap, but not elite.
- Superior leverage blocker; just does not get pushed back, nor does his man get leverage on him.
- Powerful base.
- Mirrors and shadows very well. Rarely loses on the edge.
- Can play with hands either off the ground or on the ground.
- Shoulder pads and head is usually directly underneath his man's, which assists in leveraging, especially in the run blocking department.
- Maintains balance when engaged.
- Absorbs contact very well, won't lose ground very often.
- Maintains engagement.
- Assignment correct.
- Very good lateral agility.
- Generally plays to the whistle.
- No injury history in which he missed games because of injury.
- Downs his man quickly in short yardage.
- Active feet.
- Creates room for rushers.
What I don't like:
- Average arm length; not a deal breaker, but I like long arms on tackles.
- High stance; if he plays guard, he's going to need to be lower off the snap than his man.
- Not great in open space.
- Can lose to guys who are faster off of the line than he is, which is important for him, as he needs to establish leverage as quickly as possible.
- Can be late in finding his block on the second level, even though he gets into the second level quick enough.
- Needs to get his hands up higher in pass protection, not at his sides.
- Willing, but marginal cut blocker.
- While his hand placement is often good, he needs to stop putting his hands on the outside of pass rushers on the edge; it's done enough that it's a point of concern. He allowed a sack because of this in the Arkansas game.
- Sometimes misses inside the pass rush off the snap against weakside pass rushers in the B gap, which I've found was due to his anticipation than skill; I've counted four against Alabama, and two of them against LSU, though none of them achieved a sack, and only one of them ever factored (which was against Drake Nevis).
- Not the quickest in getting to the edge.
Peter Carroll has stated a desire to improve the running game. They appear to have just done that. While that may be the case, they still need another interior lineman, if not another right tackle. They could still address the O-line later in the draft. Lee Ziemba is a prospect that they've had in for a visit, and he may be an option in the later rounds.
Going forward, if the Seahawks don't further address the O-line in the draft, they have options in free agency, though it remains to be seen what they can and will do in free agency since they likely won't be able to sign anyone until they lose one of their own free agents.
I think they should make re-signing Chris Spencer a priority.
At the moment, I can see Carpenter being placed at left guard if the Seahawks feel comfortable with putting Max Unger at right guard and Stacy Andrews at right tackle, provided that they re-sign Spencer.
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Nice write-up Carl, appreciate it
While I am not a fan of the pick, that does not mean it was necessarily a bad one. I just felt there were better players that suited the Seahawks needs on the board. Having no knowledge of Carpenter prior to the draft, this makes me feel a bit better. Thanks for taking time out of your day to review some games and write this post, good work. Rec’d.
by Pessimistic Optimist on Apr 29, 2011 3:05 AM PDT reply actions
"Rarely loses on the edge"
given that two of our rivals just signed edge rushers, this is the biggest bullet point for me.
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Thanks a lot, Carl, good stuff
I was wondering about the edge rusher stuff. In the highlight package they showed after the pick, it looked like it’s possible to run around him if you’re quick enough. Obviously that’s off an incredibly small sample size, but there were two clips where it looked like he was struggling to circle back and keep speed rushers to the outside. Sounds like that was just some isolated instances though, based on what you’ve seen.
Nicely done, well written!
I am liking this pick more and more! He seems to be a great fit for what they want to do and can play multiple positions on the line. Let’s get a DT and a OG tonight!
Thanks, Carl. We need more of this stuff.
I wish I could write this kind of analysis, but I just don’t know enough about football. BOOOOOOOOO.
Maybe I should change my MA degree to “Football Logistics”.
I'm one of the seemingly few
that liked this pick from the moment it was announced. Hi I am Doug and I’m a draftnik, I spend far to much time watching football and slobbering over what the various media “draft experts” have to say, I watched a few Bama games (SEC football is great ball to watch, and chalk full of NFL potential type players) anyway I liked what I saw in JC at LT, and agree with much of Carl’s take on him. His concerns as listed tell me he probably isn’t going to project as a LT in the pros (but could do the job in a pinch) We have either just solidified the left side for years to come, or have our book end tackles for this generation. Maybe a slight reach for need but if this was Schneider/carroll.Cable’s guy then so be it, I think the end result no matter if he plays LG or Rt is that we just vastly improved our biggest problem area in a big way.
Beer, its not just for breakfast anymore.
by Dougula on Apr 29, 2011 12:20 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
I love your sig.
"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM
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Myself as well.
Admittedly, the pick caught me off guard, but I liked the pick as soon as it was made.
First Round Wishlist (in order): 1. Mark Ingram; 2. Mike Pouncey; 3. Jimmy Smith; 4. Jake Locker
Other rounds: Rodney Hudson, Justin Houston, Owen Marecic, Ras-I Dowling, Joseph Barksdale, Tyler Sash, Shareece Wright, and Taiwan Jones.
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 29, 2011 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions
Thanks everyone!
Very glad that you guys like it!
First Round Wishlist (in order): 1. Mark Ingram; 2. Mike Pouncey; 3. Jimmy Smith; 4. Jake Locker
Other rounds: Rodney Hudson, Justin Houston, Owen Marecic, Ras-I Dowling, Joseph Barksdale, Tyler Sash, Shareece Wright, and Taiwan Jones.
I know you're a busy guy Carl
but I was wondering if at some point you’d be able to explain what you look for when you’re scouting guys and what some of those things mean. For example, “Knees consistently bent, even in motion.” Why is that good? How does that help an offensive lineman? Or “While his hand placement is often good, he needs to stop putting his hands on the outside of pass rushers on the edge”, how far outside is too far? Where should they normally be putting their hands?
I really enjoy watching a lot of these guys with an eye towards the draft, and I feel like I have a good idea of how a player performs on a play. But I don’t know a lot of the ins and outs of scouting that show up in your reports.
A consistent knee bend is the mark of a player who practices good technique throughout the whole play.
It helps the O-linemen with lowering his pad height, meaning he is less likely to stand straight up, or in putting his pads higher than the D-lineman’s, giving up leverage to him; it allows the player to use the player to settle his weight into his hip to generate power and/or absorb impact, rather than calf and lower-leg power, and it best allows him to move in more directions than not. It also helps keep the lineman more on the balls of his feet, rather than on his heels. Ultimately, a bent knee best allows the O-lineman to either gain or maintain a position of strength over his guy.
If you were to stand stock still and straight up and get pushed high on your chest without voluntarily resisting, chances are, you’ll start to fall backwards, and you’ve lost your balance until you regain it. But if you stand with your knees bent and got pushed on the the same spot without voluntarily resisting, chances are, you got moved far less and probably even remained perfectly as you were.
When a lineman maintains a bent in motion, he’s giving himself the most advantage in gaining or maintaining a position of strength from split second to split second during the real time of a football play in progress.
Also, bending your knees will make it easier for your quarterback to see over you.
One would think that for anyone playing on the line, you’d expect them to naturally maintain a bent knee, but it’s actually amazing how many do NOT keep their knees bent in motion.
When a tackle is blocking on the edge, you don’t want him to put his hands on the outside of the player’s shoulders, because of two reasons, one, you’re a lot more likely to lose control of keeping the guy positioned square in front you; a DE can’t sack a quarterback if he’s blocked off properly, and two, if the defender starts to beat you off the edge, and you grab him, you’re going to get called for holding, because it’s a lot more visible for the referees.
Too far would be generally when the hands are on the lateral side of the shoulders. The front side of the shoulders is not so bad, but you’d rather the O-lineman put them closer to the chest/armpit area.
As for what I look for, it depends on the position, but when it comes to OT’s the basic things that I look for are:
- Stance
- First initial step
- Bent knees
- Hand positioning
- Shoulder pad height
- Power
- Lateral agility
And then I look at the consistency of all of the above and how it translates in his play.
First Round Wishlist (in order): 1. Mark Ingram; 2. Mike Pouncey; 3. Jimmy Smith; 4. Jake Locker
Other rounds: Rodney Hudson, Justin Houston, Owen Marecic, Ras-I Dowling, Joseph Barksdale, Tyler Sash, Shareece Wright, and Taiwan Jones.
by Carl Shinyama on Apr 30, 2011 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
what do you mean by shoulder pad height?
Watching the Seahawks is like peeing on yourself, everyone can see it, but only you get the warm feeling it brings
I look for how low he keeps his shoulders before and during the actual play. Play too high, and let the D-lineman get into your chest, you're asking for trouble.
As I cannot see his actual shoulders, the shoulder pads are my best bet for gauging how high his shoulders are.
First Round Wishlist (in order): 1. Mark Ingram; 2. Mike Pouncey; 3. Jimmy Smith; 4. Jake Locker
Other rounds: Rodney Hudson, Justin Houston, Owen Marecic, Ras-I Dowling, Joseph Barksdale, Tyler Sash, Shareece Wright, and Taiwan Jones.
by Carl Shinyama on May 4, 2011 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions

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