Round Number Three, Thread Number Three, Mambo Number Five

No one strikes me as being great, and I would like to be like the Patriots, who view draft picks as working capital. Time value of money baby. There are two type of people in this world- those who pay interest, and those who receive it.

by mkries on Apr 29, 2011 5:49 PM PDT reply actions

Casey, Nevis, Foster still available

by FisteeFisterer on Apr 29, 2011 5:49 PM PDT reply actions

Just got off work

Does anyone have an link that is working well?

by bonecruncher on Apr 29, 2011 5:50 PM PDT reply actions

Just go to nfl.com....they have a fine stream.

by J.L. White on Apr 29, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions

Isn't there a more illegal way?

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs

I wish I could give you a high five right now.

by Modrik Zutar on Apr 29, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions

that's a rec'in

by G-Mo on Apr 29, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions

That reminds me, I need to piss.

by wyte_lightning on Apr 29, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions

How fine was your stream?

by J.L. White on Apr 29, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions

I'd say strong to quite strong.

by wyte_lightning on Apr 29, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions

Go

here.

by J.L. White on Apr 29, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions

Thank you!

by bonecruncher on Apr 29, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions

Kyle Kapernick?

"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles

by SSreporters on Apr 29, 2011 5:50 PM PDT reply actions

Colin?

Gone early in the 2nd round…

by Maury Povich on Apr 29, 2011 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions

Kyle is his clone

He’s hidden. We’re drafting him in the 6th

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions

Mel Kiper called him "Kyle"

"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles

by SSreporters on Apr 29, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions

Looked like Pete was rolling a J

Opinions are like assholes , I once saw my Uncle's. - Megan Amram

by Lo Pann on Apr 29, 2011 5:50 PM PDT reply actions

He smokes

you know he smokes

Learn JiuJitsu, it's fun.

by RolloTomasi on Apr 29, 2011 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions

Nah

Maybe meth
But not the blunt

by stufr on Apr 29, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions

Not Meth

but X maybe
Pete seems like a raver

Opinions are like assholes , I once saw my Uncle's. - Megan Amram

by Lo Pann on Apr 29, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions

I've never seen him with a glow in the dark mouth piece

by stufr on Apr 29, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

HA!

by wyte_lightning on Apr 29, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions

Glow Stick !!!

by Kyle Shaw on Apr 29, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions

He smokes, then he retires with his harem of Song Girls

Offseason 2011: Kelly Jennings, Craig Terrill, and Matt Hasselbeck...good riddance.

by Wayward Llama on Apr 29, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions

Dude's a pimp no doubt.

Learn JiuJitsu, it's fun.

by RolloTomasi on Apr 29, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions

Song Girls = Sea Gals?

by wyte_lightning on Apr 29, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions

Song girls = USC cheerleaders.

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by RolloTomasi on Apr 29, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions

Yep

I would like to see a jello fight between them and the Oregon cheerleaders

by stufr on Apr 29, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions

I'd pay to watch that

PPV baby book it!

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by RolloTomasi on Apr 29, 2011 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions

Do staff have to submit drug tests to th NFL?

by Kyle Shaw on Apr 29, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions

HELLZ NO

umm yeah prolly.

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by RolloTomasi on Apr 29, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions

Yes, because a Texans coach pissed hot a few years back and got served a suspension

by Modrik Zutar on Apr 29, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions

My piss is always pretty warm...

by Mpjohns3 on Apr 29, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions

Drugs make it HOT!

Learn JiuJitsu, it's fun.

by RolloTomasi on Apr 29, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions

So do STDs

by Mpjohns3 on Apr 29, 2011 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions

and fire

Learn JiuJitsu, it's fun.

by RolloTomasi on Apr 29, 2011 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions

Ouch

by Mpjohns3 on Apr 29, 2011 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions

FRICTION, BABY!!!

by wyte_lightning on Apr 29, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions

Friction = good sex

but bad afterglow

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by RolloTomasi on Apr 29, 2011 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions

That's comedy

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by RolloTomasi on Apr 29, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions

Still no Mallet

by Ovreel on Apr 29, 2011 5:52 PM PDT reply actions

Or Foster. :(

by Coach Owens on Apr 29, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions

Or Houston

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions

Can the Cards pass on him again?

by Ovreel on Apr 29, 2011 5:53 PM PDT reply actions

Why when they can scoop up Matt Hasselbeck in FA

by B.B.Finnegan on Apr 29, 2011 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions

And they do!

by Ovreel on Apr 29, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions

Come on AZ... pass on Mallett...

by Modrik Zutar on Apr 29, 2011 5:53 PM PDT reply actions

heh heh.....69

by J.L. White on Apr 29, 2011 5:53 PM PDT reply actions

Oh good GOD! My heart skipped a beat when he started saying Rob's first name lol

by Modrik Zutar on Apr 29, 2011 5:54 PM PDT reply actions

I thought he was saying Ryan also haha

by Ovreel on Apr 29, 2011 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions

And the Mallet train continues to roll on.

by forte40 on Apr 29, 2011 5:54 PM PDT reply actions

I was shitting bricks at the R sound

by G-Mo on Apr 29, 2011 5:54 PM PDT reply actions

that whole rob part almost sold me

by TS6 on Apr 29, 2011 5:54 PM PDT reply actions

NOOOOOO, NOT A TIGHT END!

So ends the Seahawks dominance of the NFC West.

by J.L. White on Apr 29, 2011 5:54 PM PDT reply actions

Wait until the Seahawks get Mallett then it is all over

by bdeviled11 on Apr 29, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions

for everybody else

by bdeviled11 on Apr 29, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions

Mallett is really gonna be there at 75.

by DetectiveM on Apr 29, 2011 5:54 PM PDT reply actions

I dunno, Pats have back to back picks coming up

by Ovreel on Apr 29, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions

And we won't pick him

by aerozeppelin on Apr 29, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions

The value + our QB need is too great to pass him up again

by Modrik Zutar on Apr 29, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions

they were saying round 5 on nfl network

70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.

by hazbro24 on Apr 29, 2011 5:55 PM PDT up reply actions

Mayock was saying this round

by Ovreel on Apr 29, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions

I bet we trade up here

by bdf128 on Apr 29, 2011 5:55 PM PDT reply actions

"Hm, with the shorter time between picks, we should have more commercials!!"

by Coach Owens on Apr 29, 2011 5:55 PM PDT reply actions

Fuck Houston gone

by FisteeFisterer on Apr 29, 2011 5:55 PM PDT reply actions

KC took Houston! Good pick for them

by Modrik Zutar on Apr 29, 2011 5:55 PM PDT reply actions

Geez KC's is gonna have a good D-line

And what’s with Denver and LBs?

by Matt Erickson on Apr 29, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions

Houston to KC

Work hard, play harder, rest easy.

by jwolf0 on Apr 29, 2011 5:55 PM PDT reply actions

I'm calling it

9ers are gonna panic and trade up to snatch Mallett before we can get there

by G-Mo on Apr 29, 2011 5:55 PM PDT reply actions

They got Colin

I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul - Invictus

by EequalsMc2 on Apr 29, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions

That would be amazing

by Modrik Zutar on Apr 29, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions

But they have Kaepernick...

by Coach Owens on Apr 29, 2011 5:56 PM PDT up reply actions

they're not very bright

by G-Mo on Apr 29, 2011 5:57 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

Houston just went to the Chiefs.

by Coach Owens on Apr 29, 2011 5:56 PM PDT reply actions

Again... we will not draft Mallett

he’s not even ‘camp body’ material

by farmer cam on Apr 29, 2011 5:56 PM PDT reply actions

I'm not mallett to mallett my mallett.

by J.L. White on Apr 29, 2011 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions

His body isn't the issue,

It’s his head.

by mkries on Apr 29, 2011 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions

Dammit

Houston is amazing value at this point, “personality concerns” aside

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 5:56 PM PDT reply actions

No mallet until later in the 4th at the least.

by FisteeFisterer on Apr 29, 2011 5:57 PM PDT reply actions

Fucks socks.

There went the Houston I was hoping for.

70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.

by hazbro24 on Apr 29, 2011 5:57 PM PDT reply actions

I"m on the Mallett bandwagon but only because of the 15 seconds of footage I just saw

by Great Sergios Ghost on Apr 29, 2011 5:57 PM PDT reply actions

That's awesome

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Apr 29, 2011 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions

you've looked at more tape than I have then

by farmer cam on Apr 29, 2011 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions

I do my homework

by Great Sergios Ghost on Apr 29, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions

Don't be fooled!

Learn JiuJitsu, it's fun.

by RolloTomasi on Apr 29, 2011 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions

haaaaa.

by DetectiveM on Apr 29, 2011 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions

So, Rackley or Hankerson?

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 5:58 PM PDT reply actions

Neither?

by J.L. White on Apr 29, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions

I want Mallett so we can have QB discussions all offseason.

Yay!

by purplepansy on Apr 29, 2011 5:58 PM PDT reply actions

Oh god no

by DetectiveM on Apr 29, 2011 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions

QB Jesus vs QB Satan

by mkries on Apr 29, 2011 5:58 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

YES!

by Modrik Zutar on Apr 29, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions

Armageddon

by purplepansy on Apr 29, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions

Schneider on the phone again...

by Coach Owens on Apr 29, 2011 5:58 PM PDT reply actions

Pete is calling from the john.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions

pickup some tp in the next trade

by purplepansy on Apr 29, 2011 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

To go with the pizza

by Matt Erickson on Apr 29, 2011 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions

He probably just got bored in there is all.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions

Wanted to draw some pictures!

by Matt Erickson on Apr 29, 2011 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions

did draft just go to espn 2?

by MrFootballguy on Apr 29, 2011 5:58 PM PDT reply actions

Yep

by wadswerth on Apr 29, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions

yep

by FisteeFisterer on Apr 29, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions

Yes

by wyte_lightning on Apr 29, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions

No. It's on nfl network

by insidetheparker on Apr 29, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions

Mallet or Palmer?!?!?!

by nflnbafanatic on Apr 29, 2011 5:59 PM PDT reply actions

Mallet.

by Modrik Zutar on Apr 29, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions

Palmer

by farmer cam on Apr 29, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

It doesn't matter because they're not drafting Mallett

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

Both.

by J.L. White on Apr 29, 2011 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions

Awwww Murray :(

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 5:59 PM PDT reply actions

Don't they still have Barber, Jones, and Choice? Huh.

Work hard, play harder, rest easy.

by jwolf0 on Apr 29, 2011 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions

They will be releasing someone

by stufr on Apr 29, 2011 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions

Yeah Barber is bad now isn't he?

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions

Just didn't seem like close to a need for them.

And when the first thing the talking heads mention about a pick is his good blocking skills on 3rd down… eh.

Work hard, play harder, rest easy.

by jwolf0 on Apr 29, 2011 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions

They need more OL

by stufr on Apr 29, 2011 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions

Demarco Murray?

What’s wrong with the Barbarion?

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 5:59 PM PDT reply actions

Barber is declining

"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles

by SSreporters on Apr 29, 2011 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions

ESPN is lagging on the draft.

by FisteeFisterer on Apr 29, 2011 6:00 PM PDT reply actions

This is a extremely weak RB class.

by nflnbafanatic on Apr 29, 2011 6:00 PM PDT reply actions

This draft class in general seems weak

Offseason 2011: Kelly Jennings, Craig Terrill, and Matt Hasselbeck...good riddance.

by Wayward Llama on Apr 29, 2011 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions

It's pretty strong in some fields

No top-tier OL but good depth. Pretty solid DL depth and top class, and some decent edge rushers. Some top-tier WR and CB prospects but not impressed by the depth.

It’s kind of talent-poor because of last year’s draft

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions

Really? I like it.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions

Did everyone already talk about how we can trade for Palmer now that the bengals have Dalton?

by insidetheparker on Apr 29, 2011 6:00 PM PDT reply actions

Yes

by Mpjohns3 on Apr 29, 2011 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions

Nope, you are definitely the first.

by purplepansy on Apr 29, 2011 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

Earliest it can happen is next week.

So just speculation.

by J.L. White on Apr 29, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions

You are smart.

Learn JiuJitsu, it's fun.

by RolloTomasi on Apr 29, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions

God I hope it happens.

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by RolloTomasi on Apr 29, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions

Who's this guy Palmer?

Sounds like a shlub.

by wyte_lightning on Apr 29, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions

Hell yeah.

Jordan gonna tear it up

Offseason 2011: Kelly Jennings, Craig Terrill, and Matt Hasselbeck...good riddance.

by Wayward Llama on Apr 29, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions

Still don't care for it

His last playoff game was just terrible. I didn’t even know what he was throwing at

by G-Mo on Apr 29, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions

Well. It's happening.

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions

personal issues aside

Mallett in the 3rd round, a back up with potential and fire on his ass right now is a god damned steal

by G-Mo on Apr 29, 2011 6:00 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

I think there's a lot of truth to this.

by Matt Erickson on Apr 29, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions

more truthiness

then actual truth

by stufr on Apr 29, 2011 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

I 2nd G Mo

by Great Sergios Ghost on Apr 29, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions

I think we'll make another pick where we'll all go

WHO?!

by aerozeppelin on Apr 29, 2011 6:01 PM PDT reply actions

I don't think Mallet makes it past the Pats

by Ovreel on Apr 29, 2011 6:01 PM PDT reply actions

Maybe not, they can afford to burn a couple or a hundred.

70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.

by hazbro24 on Apr 29, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions

Probably not.

Then they can shop him for MORE PICKS.

by Coach Owens on Apr 29, 2011 6:01 PM PDT up reply actions

Yuppers.

by djafrot on Apr 29, 2011 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions

If I didn't see the word Mallet again until he's drafted...

… I’d be happy and sane.

by sev79 on Apr 29, 2011 6:02 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

Mallett.

by djafrot on Apr 29, 2011 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions

Gah!

Must eat brains.

by sev79 on Apr 29, 2011 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions

Imagine if Locker hadn't already gone!

by Trojan Knight on Apr 29, 2011 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions

I'd cry.

by nflnbafanatic on Apr 29, 2011 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions

Mallet

by Mpjohns3 on Apr 29, 2011 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions

Mallett Mallett Mallett Mallett

Mallett Mallett?

by Lock_down on Apr 29, 2011 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions

I can see pats take Mallet since they have two straight picks.

by nflnbafanatic on Apr 29, 2011 6:02 PM PDT reply actions

can we just draft somebody already gawd

by B.B.Finnegan on Apr 29, 2011 6:03 PM PDT reply actions

Mallett's biggest issue other than his head

Is his ability to play QB.

"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles

by SSreporters on Apr 29, 2011 6:03 PM PDT reply actions

What part of it?

He reads defenses as well as any QB in this leage, and has a huge arm

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

Based on the tape I've seen of Mallett, he's the best QB physically by FAR.

He must either be a real dumbass, a total jerk, a meth addict or some combination of these. I can’t believe that teams would pass on him because of some nasty articles. Because no team has stepped up and taken him, I have a hard time believing there isn’t some serious baggage (beyond "he cusses on his Facebook page and listens to Eminem).

by mkries on Apr 29, 2011 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

Any day now, Aints.

Offseason 2011: Kelly Jennings, Craig Terrill, and Matt Hasselbeck...good riddance.

by Wayward Llama on Apr 29, 2011 6:03 PM PDT reply actions

The buttons on Roaf's jacket are screaming in pain

Work hard, play harder, rest easy.

by jwolf0 on Apr 29, 2011 6:04 PM PDT up reply actions

Wilson's a hell of a fit for the Saints

by Modrik Zutar on Apr 29, 2011 6:03 PM PDT reply actions

This is the least entertaining draft ever.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2011 6:03 PM PDT reply actions

Straight from Seahawks.com commentary

i just think that the egales have the ability to traid and the hawks go back why not
by izahawk at 8:59 PM

I don’t even know what this means…

by bdeviled11 on Apr 29, 2011 6:04 PM PDT reply actions

It means you're wasting time reading the comments at Seahawks.com

We shall win the war in the trenches, boys!!!

by Tyler Jorgensen on Apr 29, 2011 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions

True, hanging my head in shame.

But it is kind of like Jersey Shore. Wow I didn’t help myself did I?

by bdeviled11 on Apr 29, 2011 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions

NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

Mallett to NEW ENGLAND?! gah…

by Modrik Zutar on Apr 29, 2011 6:04 PM PDT reply actions

Jesus.

Does Willie Roaf have a neck?!? That’s a giant giant man.

We shall win the war in the trenches, boys!!!

by Tyler Jorgensen on Apr 29, 2011 6:04 PM PDT reply actions

YESSS!

by bdeviled11 on Apr 29, 2011 6:04 PM PDT reply actions

Damn

Pats are gonna take Mallett, knew it.

by Ovreel on Apr 29, 2011 6:04 PM PDT reply actions

Please Patriots dont take Mallet.

by nflnbafanatic on Apr 29, 2011 6:04 PM PDT reply actions

Mallet to NE

by insidetheparker on Apr 29, 2011 6:04 PM PDT reply actions

Mallatt to NE

by Great Sergios Ghost on Apr 29, 2011 6:04 PM PDT reply actions

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

by nflnbafanatic on Apr 29, 2011 6:04 PM PDT reply actions

Lombardi saying Mallett to Patriots

Interesting

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 6:04 PM PDT reply actions

Mallett Mallett Mallett

oh well.

by J.L. White on Apr 29, 2011 6:04 PM PDT reply actions

Thank God!

Learn JiuJitsu, it's fun.

by RolloTomasi on Apr 29, 2011 6:04 PM PDT reply actions

I bet its journell.

by makal1350 on Apr 29, 2011 6:04 PM PDT reply actions

FUCK

by nflnbafanatic on Apr 29, 2011 6:04 PM PDT reply actions

I am going to laugh if Mallett goes to New England, and turns out good.

Actually, I will cry.

by djafrot on Apr 29, 2011 6:05 PM PDT reply actions

How could he fail there?

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions

He will too. Cassell did and Mallet has more weapons. Genius.

by insidetheparker on Apr 29, 2011 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions

Heh

The heir apparent to Brady is here?

"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles

by SSreporters on Apr 29, 2011 6:05 PM PDT reply actions

And have him wait for four years?

by forte40 on Apr 29, 2011 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions

Yup

Why not?

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions

3 and then trade him to the raiders for their 2nd round draft choice for the next 4 years

by G-Mo on Apr 29, 2011 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions

He should feel blessed at the opportunity to fan Brady with a giant leaf

While Brady’s goddesses hand feed him grapes

by DetectiveM on Apr 29, 2011 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions

No

They’re just going to turn him into a #1 pick to trade away

by Ovreel on Apr 29, 2011 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions

That was my thought.

It’s like quarterbacks are valuable or something.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions

Of course this was an evil Belichick conspiracy

by G-Mo on Apr 29, 2011 6:05 PM PDT reply actions

He planted the drug rumors

by aerozeppelin on Apr 29, 2011 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions

If so certian..why are they still on the clock?

by nflnbafanatic on Apr 29, 2011 6:05 PM PDT reply actions

to fuck with you

by purplepansy on Apr 29, 2011 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions

They have two picks

They might look to trade one

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions

Shopping that pick like crazy.

by forte40 on Apr 29, 2011 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions

Looking to trade Mallet for a first next year

by bonecruncher on Apr 29, 2011 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions

They have two picks in a row.

by J.L. White on Apr 29, 2011 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions

So, who the hell do we pick?

Casey? Hankerson? Nevis?

by Modrik Zutar on Apr 29, 2011 6:05 PM PDT reply actions

Trade down again

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions

Nevis

by bonecruncher on Apr 29, 2011 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions

I'll take Edmund Gates here... or Moffitt

by trippsixxes on Apr 29, 2011 6:06 PM PDT reply actions

I also like Moffitt

dude is such a monster

by Modrik Zutar on Apr 29, 2011 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions

Any. Friggin. Day.

Offseason 2011: Kelly Jennings, Craig Terrill, and Matt Hasselbeck...good riddance.

by Wayward Llama on Apr 29, 2011 6:06 PM PDT reply actions

If the Patriots draft Mallet he will sit for 2 years before he is traded...

to Oakland for like 3 first round picks

by farmer cam on Apr 29, 2011 6:06 PM PDT reply actions

Ryan Mallet is a good one.

by nflnbafanatic on Apr 29, 2011 6:06 PM PDT reply actions

So.....how about Mason Foster?

"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles

by SSreporters on Apr 29, 2011 6:06 PM PDT reply actions

No way. We have way bigger needs

by insidetheparker on Apr 29, 2011 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions

It's the 3rd round

Talent > Need

by J.L. White on Apr 29, 2011 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions

I think we need a linebacker

Seriously. Tats is finished, in my opinion.

"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles

by SSreporters on Apr 29, 2011 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions

I think Casey and Ballard are more talented and fill a bigger need than Foster.

by insidetheparker on Apr 29, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions

Both D-Line I would've been happy to get at 57

by insidetheparker on Apr 29, 2011 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions

Eh.....it's a good time to get him.

Tatupu might be running out of time here, as well.

by J.L. White on Apr 29, 2011 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions

I'd be plenty happy with Foster.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2011 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions

YES YES YES YES

by stufr on Apr 29, 2011 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions

Ahahahaha Mike Mayock is struggling to come up with the red flags

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2011 6:07 PM PDT reply actions

"Oh crap. You expect me to actually back this up?"

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2011 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions

I think he just didn't want to be a rumormonger.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions

Or probably didn't want to get sued

by G-Mo on Apr 29, 2011 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions

Mayock is a great guy

I am always impressed with how classy he is

by stufr on Apr 29, 2011 6:07 PM PDT reply actions

And thats why Mayock is the best.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 6:07 PM PDT reply actions

they took Solder

by farmer cam on Apr 29, 2011 6:07 PM PDT reply actions

Only pick that would make me happy

is Mason Foster

by MrFootballguy on Apr 29, 2011 6:08 PM PDT reply actions

Please grab Christian Ballard, please, Seahawks.

Potential first rounder in the middle of the third? Yes please.

by Coach Owens on Apr 29, 2011 6:08 PM PDT reply actions

Who?

by J.L. White on Apr 29, 2011 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions

Illinois DE/DT.

Pass-rusher.

by Coach Owens on Apr 29, 2011 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions

3 down pass rusher

by trippsixxes on Apr 29, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions

Iowa

by mkries on Apr 29, 2011 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions

Smokes weed, but can play

by bonecruncher on Apr 29, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions

thats a good pick too.

by trippsixxes on Apr 29, 2011 6:08 PM PDT up reply actions

I could definitely live with this.

I’m going to be sad if they don’t go DL with this pick.

by Matt Erickson on Apr 29, 2011 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions

not mallett

by Lock_down on Apr 29, 2011 6:08 PM PDT reply actions

I'm going to laugh if the second pick isn't Mallet.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2011 6:08 PM PDT reply actions

Maybe Pats put the rumor out there to encourage a trade

Would be typical Pats trick

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions

That fits into my preconceived notions of that organization so I'm gonna just choose to run with it.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions

AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

by G-Mo on Apr 29, 2011 6:08 PM PDT reply actions

Pats love Rbs?

by purplepansy on Apr 29, 2011 6:08 PM PDT reply actions

Stevan Ridley?

Work hard, play harder, rest easy.

by jwolf0 on Apr 29, 2011 6:08 PM PDT reply actions

Belicheck trolling Mallett or us?

Work hard, play harder, rest easy.

by jwolf0 on Apr 29, 2011 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions

LaCanfora and Lombardi have to be sweating bullets right now

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 6:08 PM PDT reply actions

Another runningback?

by aerozeppelin on Apr 29, 2011 6:08 PM PDT reply actions

MASON

FOSTER

by stufr on Apr 29, 2011 6:09 PM PDT reply actions

They are trying to trade.

by nflnbafanatic on Apr 29, 2011 6:09 PM PDT reply actions

Oh Patriots.

by Coach Owens on Apr 29, 2011 6:09 PM PDT reply actions

So now Mallett will go right before our pick. Because that hasn't bit us in the ass before.

by Modrik Zutar on Apr 29, 2011 6:09 PM PDT reply actions

Wait not Mallett???

I am the master of my fate; I am the captain of my soul - Invictus

by EequalsMc2 on Apr 29, 2011 6:09 PM PDT reply actions

NE has back to back trades.

Learn JiuJitsu, it's fun.

by RolloTomasi on Apr 29, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions

*picks not trades

Learn JiuJitsu, it's fun.

by RolloTomasi on Apr 29, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions

Mallet with the second pick, at least the ESPN guy seems 100% certain.

by forte40 on Apr 29, 2011 6:09 PM PDT reply actions

If not trade yes it will be Mallet.

by nflnbafanatic on Apr 29, 2011 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions

schneider on the phone

by Lock_down on Apr 29, 2011 6:10 PM PDT reply actions

He's got papers on his desk.

Offseason 2011: Kelly Jennings, Craig Terrill, and Matt Hasselbeck...good riddance.

by Wayward Llama on Apr 29, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions

There goes Mallet.

by nflnbafanatic on Apr 29, 2011 6:10 PM PDT reply actions

Phones again in the War Room

by Ovreel on Apr 29, 2011 6:10 PM PDT reply actions

Like I said, we're trading out of the draft for a stuffed crust pizza.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2011 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

We ain't done rippin' an dippin' yet!

by trippsixxes on Apr 29, 2011 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions

Honestly

I couldn’t fault them for that. I know the feeling.

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions

Wanting a stuffed crust pizza?

Pete should know better, that’s always followed by deep remorse because those are nasty.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2011 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions

Yeah, but when you got the munchies...

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions

Someone should tell them we're not the Patriots yet.

by djafrot on Apr 29, 2011 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions

Cable has more control of the draft process than any of us realized.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions

Seahawks on the clock.

by djafrot on Apr 29, 2011 6:10 PM PDT reply actions

pick 75...

by nflnbafanatic on Apr 29, 2011 6:10 PM PDT reply actions

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

by Modrik Zutar on Apr 29, 2011 6:10 PM PDT reply actions

Damn

by wadswerth on Apr 29, 2011 6:10 PM PDT reply actions

SON OF A BITCH BASTARD

by G-Mo on Apr 29, 2011 6:10 PM PDT reply actions

In all seriousness, that's a great pickup for the Pats.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2011 6:10 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

Amazing.

He can walk in and backup Brady right away.

by djafrot on Apr 29, 2011 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions

There goes Mallett, indeed

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 6:10 PM PDT reply actions

NOO

by Lock_down on Apr 29, 2011 6:10 PM PDT reply actions

Pete is once again CHILLIN.

by nflnbafanatic on Apr 29, 2011 6:10 PM PDT reply actions

LIKE A VILLAIN

by aerozeppelin on Apr 29, 2011 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions

Mallett

Stupid

by purplepansy on Apr 29, 2011 6:11 PM PDT reply actions

There it is.

Witness why the Seattle Seahawks are not good, and the New England Patriots are.

by djafrot on Apr 29, 2011 6:11 PM PDT reply actions

Because they had the pick ahead of us?

by wilsonpdx on Apr 29, 2011 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions

Huh?

by Matt Erickson on Apr 29, 2011 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions

Fuck.

Offseason 2011: Kelly Jennings, Craig Terrill, and Matt Hasselbeck...good riddance.

by Wayward Llama on Apr 29, 2011 6:11 PM PDT reply actions

yes.

by Trojan Knight on Apr 29, 2011 6:11 PM PDT reply actions

Good for him.

He’s probably pissed about falling but what a great spot for him to end up.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 6:11 PM PDT reply actions

I'm relieved.

Learn JiuJitsu, it's fun.

by RolloTomasi on Apr 29, 2011 6:11 PM PDT reply actions

Ditto.

"Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn"

by Miskatonic Fighting Cephalopods on Apr 29, 2011 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions

Where is the Skype on Mallet? hahahahahhaah

by nflnbafanatic on Apr 29, 2011 6:11 PM PDT reply actions

Boom.

by DetectiveM on Apr 29, 2011 6:11 PM PDT reply actions

TOM BRADY'S DAYS ARE NUMBERED!!!!!!!!

by J.L. White on Apr 29, 2011 6:11 PM PDT reply actions

Definitely getting cut

by purplepansy on Apr 29, 2011 6:11 PM PDT up reply actions

Well, he is 36

by B.B.Finnegan on Apr 29, 2011 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions

Great job, Schneider.

Why not trade this pick too, you fucking moron.

How will you spend YOUR Sundays now?

by Hmph on Apr 29, 2011 6:11 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

Damn bro

by purplepansy on Apr 29, 2011 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions

Wow.

Really?

"Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn"

by Miskatonic Fighting Cephalopods on Apr 29, 2011 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions

Huh?

by Matt Erickson on Apr 29, 2011 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions

relax guy

Learn JiuJitsu, it's fun.

by RolloTomasi on Apr 29, 2011 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions

Go on.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions

Foster!!!!

by MrFootballguy on Apr 29, 2011 6:11 PM PDT reply actions

All kinds of laughing and hollering in the war room

by Modrik Zutar on Apr 29, 2011 6:12 PM PDT reply actions

Surprisingly good lot to pick from here for the Hawks.

That trade down from 57 was really harmless.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 6:12 PM PDT reply actions

Yes, this.

Work hard, play harder, rest easy.

by jwolf0 on Apr 29, 2011 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions

Well, some names lost

Like Houston.

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions

But true, not a lot

Surprising reaches for WRs and RBs

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions

but but but

MALLEEETTTT

by purplepansy on Apr 29, 2011 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions

To be perfectly frank

How many of us think they would’ve taken Mallett here?

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions

Tom Jackson is the only person I want to hear with Boomer on ESPN

"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles

by SSreporters on Apr 29, 2011 6:12 PM PDT reply actions

OL they are surrounding cable.

by makal1350 on Apr 29, 2011 6:12 PM PDT reply actions

Called it!

by makal1350 on Apr 29, 2011 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions

This thread was thoroughly Malletted.

by J.L. White on Apr 29, 2011 6:12 PM PDT reply actions

Looks like they took a Mallett

To our hopes.

YEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions

Are we done driving this into the ground now? Because I really think we've hammered the point about Mallett enough.

Work hard, play harder, rest easy.

by jwolf0 on Apr 29, 2011 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions

It was Clausened last year.

by djafrot on Apr 29, 2011 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions

Ballard or Casey. DL!!

by insidetheparker on Apr 29, 2011 6:12 PM PDT reply actions

They look happy.

Offseason 2011: Kelly Jennings, Craig Terrill, and Matt Hasselbeck...good riddance.

by Wayward Llama on Apr 29, 2011 6:13 PM PDT reply actions

John Moffit Guard

by nflnbafanatic on Apr 29, 2011 6:13 PM PDT reply actions

really?

poop

by J.L. White on Apr 29, 2011 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions

How many times do we have to ask, no fucking spoilers

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions

This dude just doesn't get it.

by wilsonpdx on Apr 29, 2011 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions

WOW fuck this i am leaving!

by nflnbafanatic on Apr 29, 2011 6:13 PM PDT reply actions

ahahahaaa

Offseason 2011: Kelly Jennings, Craig Terrill, and Matt Hasselbeck...good riddance.

by Wayward Llama on Apr 29, 2011 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions

Finally...

by BrooklynPreacher on Apr 29, 2011 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions

Another Guard

Guess they didn’t like their O line last year, eh?

by HawksInBklyn on Apr 29, 2011 6:13 PM PDT reply actions

TEZ TIME!!!!!!

by Modrik Zutar on Apr 29, 2011 6:13 PM PDT reply actions

FUCK YES

Lady Gaga, Goodell fucking loves the NFL fanbase

by G-Mo on Apr 29, 2011 6:13 PM PDT reply actions

PICK. IS. IN.

Who we takin’?

by J.L. White on Apr 29, 2011 6:13 PM PDT reply actions

Cortez Kennedy

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions

Can he play 3-tech?

by J.L. White on Apr 29, 2011 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions

Guard John Moffit from Wisconsin. Really? How about a DB or DL?

by nflnbafanatic on Apr 29, 2011 6:13 PM PDT reply actions

Thought you were leaving

by purplepansy on Apr 29, 2011 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions

Please leave now

Barely a request

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions

Nice. Thanks a lot.

by djafrot on Apr 29, 2011 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions

I don't understand the fuss...

Mallett is a commodity. The very fact that he’ll be the back-up in NE to Tom Brady will probably make him worth a 1st rounder to some other team. Mark my words… he won’t be a Patriot in 3 years

by farmer cam on Apr 29, 2011 6:14 PM PDT reply actions

Exactly. That's why it's so smart.

by djafrot on Apr 29, 2011 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions

I wish we were in the position to draft players with that potential in mind

by farmer cam on Apr 29, 2011 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions

Hey, we could actually play the guy.

It would be even BETTER for us.

by djafrot on Apr 29, 2011 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions

I hate him but McShay described all the reasons why I don't want Mallett

And frankly Mallett’s biggest weakness is also Brady’s.

"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles

by SSreporters on Apr 29, 2011 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions

Holy shit guys, how many times does it have to be said. STOP SAYING THE PICKS BEFORE THE TV DOES.

by Modrik Zutar on Apr 29, 2011 6:14 PM PDT reply actions

Um, why?

by BrooklynPreacher on Apr 29, 2011 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions

Because it ruins the suspense of watching the draft. We've gone through this like 6 times already today.

by Modrik Zutar on Apr 29, 2011 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions

Because it's annoying as shit for those who are watching the draft

by Mpjohns3 on Apr 29, 2011 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions

Then just watch the draft..

by B.B.Finnegan on Apr 29, 2011 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions

It's pretty widespread to not want spoilers being posted on here.

It’s not just me. And I enjoy commentary from people who, you know, actually know something about the Seahawks.

by Mpjohns3 on Apr 29, 2011 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions

Most of us want to watch and comment together.

Being first to post “RESULTS!” when everyone else is on a different pace is the actual information based version of “FIRST!”

Waste of space. Only instead of just being obnoxious, you’re actually ruining everyone else’s flow too.

We shall win the war in the trenches, boys!!!

by Tyler Jorgensen on Apr 29, 2011 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions

I'm hoping that was an addition to my comment and not a response?

Since we’re on the same side of the debate here

by Mpjohns3 on Apr 29, 2011 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions

Exactly.

We shall win the war in the trenches, boys!!!

by Tyler Jorgensen on Apr 29, 2011 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions

I've been looking away from the thread before our picks.

by DetectiveM on Apr 29, 2011 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions

Its as easy as opening the draft cast from ESPN

Stop making a huge deal about it.

by forte40 on Apr 29, 2011 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions

It's not a difficult request

Some of us want to watch TV and hear the picks there. How difficult is it to NOT post them before the TV has them? Exactly. If you do it anyway, you’re an asshole. Pure and simple.

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs

Rec'd.

by Modrik Zutar on Apr 29, 2011 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions

I would like to propose this as an addition to the site rules that were posted a few days ago

by Mpjohns3 on Apr 29, 2011 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

This.

Mods?

We shall win the war in the trenches, boys!!!

by Tyler Jorgensen on Apr 29, 2011 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions

Official ruling

Stop posting ahead of the TV feeds.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2011 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions 7 recs

Gracias

by Mpjohns3 on Apr 29, 2011 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions

Make this green!

by eeezzbok on Apr 29, 2011 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions

Neither is my option.

by forte40 on Apr 29, 2011 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions

It actually is for a lot of people with older computers.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2011 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions

Yes, but some of us don't want to

Some of us want to have the TV on and read this thread. You’re ruining it for those people, and for no reason. What’s to gain? For anyone?

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions

So should this rule be held only applicable to Seahawk picks?

I will gladly follow that rule.

by forte40 on Apr 29, 2011 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions

Again

What do you lose by not posting spoilers in this thread? Other people gain when you do not do it, while nobody gains anything when you do.

Why are you guys being so stubborn on this?

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions

Ok, I see your point.

by forte40 on Apr 29, 2011 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions

Thanks

Sorry if I came off as dickish about it, but it’s slightly irksome.

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

You didn't, sorry on my part also.

And its an official rule now so we can all now move along to making fun of the Raiders or Bills.

by forte40 on Apr 29, 2011 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

Well said.

Thanks for seeing the other (slower) side.

We shall win the war in the trenches, boys!!!

by Tyler Jorgensen on Apr 29, 2011 6:46 PM PDT up reply actions

If you realize you are on a faster pace than us...

it’s pretty easy. Watch the thread, wait for the general commentariot to start commenting on a player, and then chime in with an opinion.

Even better, you’ll have had time to concoct an actual reaction and detail as opposed to a 5 word sentence that bespeaks of the “Me FIRST I HAVE IT FIRST” mentality of posting spoilers.

We shall win the war in the trenches, boys!!!

by Tyler Jorgensen on Apr 29, 2011 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions

So we just sit around and wait until someone watching on TV says who's picked?

by B.B.Finnegan on Apr 29, 2011 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions

Yes.

by wilsonpdx on Apr 29, 2011 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions

Sure.

Not too hard. Be the first to add a comment on top of someone elses. Then instead of a bunch of single comments, we can get subthread trees actually commenting on a player. Not a bad way to go, and your post will actually be more likely to be read that way anyway.

We shall win the war in the trenches, boys!!!

by Tyler Jorgensen on Apr 29, 2011 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

I haven't even noticed the spoilers, honestly

Why is the TV not live? I don’t understand

by B.B.Finnegan on Apr 29, 2011 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions

Janet Jackson's boob

by Jordinary on Apr 29, 2011 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions

Yeah

Mayock could suddenly decide to tear off his shirt and cause nipplegate 2

We don’t want that

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions

then watch tv

And get off the internet.

You sound like a rep for espn for crying out loud

by vertigoman on Apr 29, 2011 6:23 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions

ESPN has gone to commercial on the seahawks pick... three times out of three?

by sev79 on Apr 29, 2011 6:14 PM PDT reply actions

TEZ!!!!!!!

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 6:14 PM PDT reply actions

YES YES YES YES MONSTER!!!!!!!! BEEF MOE!!!!

by Modrik Zutar on Apr 29, 2011 6:15 PM PDT reply actions

Tom Cable clearly has taken over the front office.

by nflnbafanatic on Apr 29, 2011 6:15 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

He obviously threatened everyone

by aerozeppelin on Apr 29, 2011 6:15 PM PDT up reply actions

good.

Learn JiuJitsu, it's fun.

by RolloTomasi on Apr 29, 2011 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions

I LOVE IT!

Learn JiuJitsu, it's fun.

by RolloTomasi on Apr 29, 2011 6:15 PM PDT reply actions

Now if only we had a quarterback to take advantage of this line.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2011 6:15 PM PDT reply actions

3 yards and a cloud of dust Brian.

70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.

by hazbro24 on Apr 29, 2011 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions

Screw it, every snap is a direct snap to the halfback.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2011 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions

Kolb/Palmer

by purplepansy on Apr 29, 2011 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions

I am going to throw up.

They do realize it’s not 1937, right?

by djafrot on Apr 29, 2011 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

Who'd you want?

by purplepansy on Apr 29, 2011 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions

Personally I would have liked Mason Foster.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2011 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions

But Pete Carroll has been saying this is how he wants to rebuild Seattle's offense.

by bdeviled11 on Apr 29, 2011 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions

Whoa, think he's slimmed down.

Work hard, play harder, rest easy.

by jwolf0 on Apr 29, 2011 6:15 PM PDT reply actions

John Moffitt

by forte40 on Apr 29, 2011 6:15 PM PDT reply actions

Dammit

Our O-line is going to be intimidating as hell

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 6:15 PM PDT reply actions

Yeah, but the Seahawks are going to have to spend like a drunken sailor on FA to avoid winning fewer than 6 games.

by mkries on Apr 29, 2011 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions

Oh because...what?

by BrooklynPreacher on Apr 29, 2011 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions

HAHAHA "We're going to take a break".

FUCK YOU NFLN

by djafrot on Apr 29, 2011 6:15 PM PDT reply actions

LOVE THIS PICK

by Modrik Zutar on Apr 29, 2011 6:15 PM PDT reply actions

WE HAVE NO OTHER NEEDS BESIDES OFFENSIVE LINE

by aerozeppelin on Apr 29, 2011 6:15 PM PDT reply actions

We don't have needs absolutely outweight Oline

So, BPA for the win

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions

Well the casual fan has been saying that since Hutch left, so ...

What’s really going to piss me off is if somehow, Matt is resigned and magically the line looks awful again.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2011 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

Has the pick come over the tv yet?

Offseason 2011: Kelly Jennings, Craig Terrill, and Matt Hasselbeck...good riddance.

by Wayward Llama on Apr 29, 2011 6:16 PM PDT reply actions

Yeah, long since

Break now

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions

Moffit!

Boom!

by DetectiveM on Apr 29, 2011 6:16 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

Tez looks thin

Good for him!

by J.L. White on Apr 29, 2011 6:16 PM PDT reply actions

He looks great. In fact..... suit him up!!

by Modrik Zutar on Apr 29, 2011 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions

Tom Cable is a boss.

by nflnbafanatic on Apr 29, 2011 6:16 PM PDT reply actions

This is how you build an offense

by farmer cam on Apr 29, 2011 6:16 PM PDT reply actions

you start with the foundation

Jesus I sound corny

by farmer cam on Apr 29, 2011 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions

You sound rather concrete to me.

We shall win the war in the trenches, boys!!!

by Tyler Jorgensen on Apr 29, 2011 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions

I see what you did there.

Recently engaged! Best. Off-season. Ever.

by Cheddar28 on Apr 29, 2011 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions

We're going to field a team of 10 offensive linemen and Beast Mode, apparently.

How will you spend YOUR Sundays now?

by Hmph on Apr 29, 2011 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions

WILD-PHANT OFFENSE!

by J.L. White on Apr 29, 2011 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions

Wither the defense?

Getting a DT here a guard next round would have been better.

by J.L. White on Apr 29, 2011 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions

we got 4 pick in the next 2 rounds...

by farmer cam on Apr 29, 2011 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions

You could easily get some one trick ponies

like Craig Terrill only better.

Recently engaged! Best. Off-season. Ever.

by Cheddar28 on Apr 29, 2011 11:07 PM PDT up reply actions

Looks like we want a bunch of dirtbags on our O-line

Love it

by Ovreel on Apr 29, 2011 6:16 PM PDT reply actions

Now we just need to bring in Robert Gallery

And we have an entirely new Tom Cable O-line

by Ovreel on Apr 29, 2011 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions

Jim Mora's coming back now

by purplepansy on Apr 29, 2011 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions

Obviously we are going for a power run game

"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles

by SSreporters on Apr 29, 2011 6:16 PM PDT reply actions

It seems like we always get the commercials

Milton Bradley is my hero. R.I.P. Dave Niehaus

by SeaKoala on Apr 29, 2011 6:16 PM PDT reply actions

LOVE THIS

PICK.

"Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn"

by Miskatonic Fighting Cephalopods on Apr 29, 2011 6:16 PM PDT reply actions

moffit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ6uc2xDIhQ

by grinch11 on Apr 29, 2011 6:17 PM PDT reply actions 5 recs

haha

I like him.

Offseason 2011: Kelly Jennings, Craig Terrill, and Matt Hasselbeck...good riddance.

by Wayward Llama on Apr 29, 2011 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions

Everyone rec this vid. It's GREAT!!!!!

We shall win the war in the trenches, boys!!!

by Tyler Jorgensen on Apr 29, 2011 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions

Haha yes

by insidetheparker on Apr 29, 2011 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions

effing hilarious. My new favorite Seahawk.

by Hawksince77 on Apr 29, 2011 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions

He hasn't played a down yet.

by aerozeppelin on Apr 29, 2011 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions

He doesn't need to

by Matt Erickson on Apr 29, 2011 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

"Orange and blue looks fabulous. It works."

Recently engaged! Best. Off-season. Ever.

by Cheddar28 on Apr 29, 2011 11:09 PM PDT up reply actions

Goodbye, Unger.

by MT Olson on Apr 29, 2011 6:17 PM PDT reply actions

He's our center

by G-Mo on Apr 29, 2011 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions

Unger can play center

"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles

by SSreporters on Apr 29, 2011 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions

Er....Moffitt

3rd round picks aren’t guarantees.

"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles

by SSreporters on Apr 29, 2011 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions

this is were you draft guards

how many starting guards in this league are drafted in the top 2 rounds… my bet is not many

by farmer cam on Apr 29, 2011 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions

Not if Tom Cable is here.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2011 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions

Not necessarily.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions

GSP VS Shields is gonna be epic.

Learn JiuJitsu, it's fun.

by RolloTomasi on Apr 29, 2011 6:17 PM PDT reply actions

GSP is going to wreck Shields

I’m looking forward to Aldo vs. Hominick.

"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles

by SSreporters on Apr 29, 2011 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions

Just like Hendo was gonna?

Learn JiuJitsu, it's fun.

by RolloTomasi on Apr 29, 2011 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions

GSP is way better than Dan Henderson ever will be. If Shields can't take GSP down the fight is over.

FOTN will be Diaz vs. MacDonald.

I got SOTN going to the Hendo/Bocek winner, and KOTN to Aldo.

"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles

by SSreporters on Apr 29, 2011 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions

IF he can't I agree

but he’s taken down much bigger guys time and time again.
He taped Jon Fitch and Vinny Margalesh in BJJ competion and sub’d the guy who choked GSP in the same night.
If Jake gets on top of GSP it’s gonna be nuts.

Learn JiuJitsu, it's fun.

by RolloTomasi on Apr 29, 2011 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions

When does the draft start tomo?

by makal1350 on Apr 29, 2011 6:17 PM PDT reply actions

9 AM pacfici

by Coach Owens on Apr 29, 2011 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions

OG 6 John Moffitt SR 6-4/319/- Wisconsin West Haven, CT

awesome player

nice pick

He’s always open. He catches a lot of balls. He’s un-guardable, no matter how old he is

by WarWolf on Apr 29, 2011 6:17 PM PDT reply actions

If I never saw another "NFL players on the bus" Play 60 commercial

I think I’d be okay.

by DetectiveM on Apr 29, 2011 6:18 PM PDT reply actions

The road to the NFL goes through the swing set.

by J.L. White on Apr 29, 2011 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions

Would have been cool if they made 32 of them with all the teams...

then we could at least bet on which team’s commercial would pop up next.

We shall win the war in the trenches, boys!!!

by Tyler Jorgensen on Apr 29, 2011 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions

I like this one a lot

8 picks tomorrow, time to take some risks

by Stormton on Apr 29, 2011 6:18 PM PDT reply actions

ESPN guys don't like him

So he must be good, right?

by Ovreel on Apr 29, 2011 6:18 PM PDT reply actions

"Spencer has been up and down"

Piss off, Gruden.

"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles

by SSreporters on Apr 29, 2011 6:19 PM PDT reply actions

Can't stand Gruden on MNF but he sure knows how to smack these TV bitches in the mouth when they get stupid.

by trippsixxes on Apr 29, 2011 6:19 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

It's a good pick, but just let down

I demand a trade right now for Stanzi

by G-Mo on Apr 29, 2011 6:19 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

So you want to trade for another 5th round pick?

70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.

by hazbro24 on Apr 29, 2011 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions

Stanzi?

Oh Lord please no

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions

I just got off the phone with Beef Moe

YAYAYA DAT IS STRAIGHT CRUNK. I iz gung straight up BEEF MOE every snap next year. Dat be a mad crazy line man MAD CRAZY

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 6:19 PM PDT reply actions

This is the most unsatisfying draft in years

by aerozeppelin on Apr 29, 2011 6:19 PM PDT reply actions

It won't be unsatisfying when we actually run the ball for

more than 50 yards a game.

Offseason 2011: Kelly Jennings, Craig Terrill, and Matt Hasselbeck...good riddance.

by Wayward Llama on Apr 29, 2011 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions

It would be nice to get into the 80's

by B.B.Finnegan on Apr 29, 2011 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions

So like last season.

by MT Olson on Apr 29, 2011 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions

get Jeff Maehl from Oregon tomorrow

by Great Sergios Ghost on Apr 29, 2011 6:20 PM PDT reply actions

Tom Cable's draft

Tom Cable’s creamed shorts.

Nothing for our defense.

by B.B.Finnegan on Apr 29, 2011 6:20 PM PDT reply actions

12 minute drives.

70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.

by hazbro24 on Apr 29, 2011 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions

Beautiful.

by Modrik Zutar on Apr 29, 2011 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions

When you're down by 21, it doesn't help much ha

by B.B.Finnegan on Apr 29, 2011 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions

We gotta stop with these horrible mental pictures.

by DetectiveM on Apr 29, 2011 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions

Hey i'm not a queer or nothin', but Tom Cable is a sexy man

by B.B.Finnegan on Apr 29, 2011 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

When's our next pick?

Learn JiuJitsu, it's fun.

by RolloTomasi on Apr 29, 2011 6:20 PM PDT reply actions

Second pick of the fourth round.

by Coach Owens on Apr 29, 2011 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions

First thing in the morning. 2nd pick of the 4th round

by Modrik Zutar on Apr 29, 2011 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions

Damn.... Missed Casey.

by Trojan Knight on Apr 29, 2011 6:20 PM PDT reply actions

Quadruple Shit

That could have been our DT.

by J.L. White on Apr 29, 2011 6:20 PM PDT reply actions

How many more picks today?

Learn JiuJitsu, it's fun.

by RolloTomasi on Apr 29, 2011 6:21 PM PDT reply actions

20 lol

Learn JiuJitsu, it's fun.

by RolloTomasi on Apr 29, 2011 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions

Shareece Wright tomorrow

Calling it

by Stormton on Apr 29, 2011 6:21 PM PDT reply actions

The Ground Chuck offense is back!

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2011 6:21 PM PDT reply actions

Carson will need some protection.

70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.

by hazbro24 on Apr 29, 2011 6:22 PM PDT up reply actions

I do worry that we're talking about this like it's a done deal.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2011 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions

I kinda worry the same about Gallery.

I’ve thought about it so much that I almost assume he’s already ours.

by eeezzbok on Apr 29, 2011 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions

If we don't get Palmer, I think people are going to feel much differently about this draft.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2011 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions

No QB in the offseason and I will prematurely declare the season over

"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles

by SSreporters on Apr 29, 2011 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions

Premature is the key word

And one I stay away from
With a good running game, CW will be adequate.

Wait for Barkley

by stufr on Apr 29, 2011 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

Yeah, I agree.

But I’m glad that PC/JS aren’t grabbing a QB just to grab one if they don’t see one they like.

by eeezzbok on Apr 29, 2011 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions

There is that, yes.

We shall win the war in the trenches, boys!!!

by Tyler Jorgensen on Apr 29, 2011 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions

I know I will.

by Strictnine on Apr 29, 2011 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions

Our defense remains Ground Beef

by J.L. White on Apr 29, 2011 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions

moffitt a booger eater? hahaha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lb4Mx5E6QnA&feature=player_embedded

by grinch11 on Apr 29, 2011 6:22 PM PDT reply actions

That's the first sign of a good dirtbag

by G-Mo on Apr 29, 2011 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions

50 bucks more says he eats it!

We shall win the war in the trenches, boys!!!

by Tyler Jorgensen on Apr 29, 2011 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions

Sorta like the purple people eaters...

Only not…

by Hawnk on Apr 29, 2011 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions

Hey,

Boogers are people too

canadian eh

by Unidentified flying orgasms on Apr 29, 2011 6:43 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions

So in the Q/PM's world Marshawn Lynch is a player you build a team around?

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 6:22 PM PDT reply actions

Marshawn Lynch and a Tom Cable offense.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions

Championship!

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 6:23 PM PDT up reply actions

Robert could run behind this line.

70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.

by hazbro24 on Apr 29, 2011 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

In Q/PM's world

Drafting a project QB and then forcing him into a badly set offense gives you a high chance of a bust. There are only project QBs in this year’s draft.

Instead, they build up an offense in a year when that’s the best option available (Oline), and next year or later pick up a QB who can be more readily plugged in

It makes perfect sense, just not for this year.

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs

And when do they fix the defense?

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions

Its not as bad as you say

We need more depth, but the starters are good, as a whole, when healthy.

by stufr on Apr 29, 2011 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions

When they like whoever is available with the picks

We have an enormous amount of holes. Did you expect them to fix it all in one draft? Don’t get me wrong, both of these picks make me go “yes, need filled” only to then think “awww but we have so many needs left”. But that was inevitable

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions

I expected them to prioritize their needs a little better.

Gritty, run first guards in the third in combination with a run first RT in the first seems like a pretty negligent use of the resources they have.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions

This isn't a case of BPA happening to be offensive lineman.

They’re targeting these guys and for me thats not an encouraging sign of what they’re trying to build.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions

I'm starting to worry about the offense for the same reason I worry about the defense and the leo position.

I’m not convinced what they want to do works

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2011 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions

No running the ball well never works

by stufr on Apr 29, 2011 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions

Thats exactly what we're trying to say.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions

I don't know how to use the sarcasm font

A solid running game sets up the pass and eats up clock which keeps the D off the field and rested.

by stufr on Apr 29, 2011 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

You can't in the subject line, but if you just put a @

on each side of what you’re writing it looks like this

by Mpjohns3 on Apr 29, 2011 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions

I am learning

like this

by stufr on Apr 29, 2011 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions

Well done

by Mpjohns3 on Apr 29, 2011 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions

These are talented guys.

We haven’t had a talented line in a long time, and the last time we did directly connects with the high water mark of the Seahawks. I just can’t figure why you are so opposed to rebuilding the OL with talent as opposed to a patchwork guesswork of 5th and 6th round players.

You’ve been adamant against going OL heavy early in the draft as long as I have been for it. We’ve gone that route. Now let’s both sit back and see maybe, just maybe, you could be wrong and we’ll be much improved and turn ourselves into a far more competitive team inherently.

I’ve mentioned reasons to go RT early before, and this pick is just a continuation of that. Our QB situation is a reflection of our lack of a strong OL, so is our consistent lack of an effective running game since Shaun faded. It isn’t a coincidence.

There isn’t a doubt in my mind Pete wants to overpower other teams, wear them down, and be the stronger more powerful team in the 4th. In addition, 8 to 10 minute drives for the offense have a funny way of making the defense inherently better.

This might just be a case of BPA being OL, just not YOUR BPA, but the BPA under the philosophy that our coach and front office have built up and believe in. Sounds like an optimistic view to me—- after all, we actually fucking have a philosophy for once.

We shall win the war in the trenches, boys!!!

by Tyler Jorgensen on Apr 29, 2011 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions 13 recs

Hear hear.

This, so many times, is exactly how I feel right now.

by Matt Erickson on Apr 29, 2011 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

I did my part to make this green

Rec this shit

by Mpjohns3 on Apr 29, 2011 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

Wow.

I didn’t see greenville coming when I posted it, but that’s cool, guys. Glad to see the “Build the Line” crew is swelling with members!

We shall win the war in the trenches, boys!!!

by Tyler Jorgensen on Apr 29, 2011 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions

I never thought I would say this

But I am in complete agreement with Whiskey

by stufr on Apr 29, 2011 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

You realize this has happened a couple of times recently?

We’re not ALWAYS diametrically opposed, and I swear I’m not crazy!

We shall win the war in the trenches, boys!!!

by Tyler Jorgensen on Apr 29, 2011 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions

We just went through an ugly time

I’m starting to think that we are closer on actual football issues.
Lets just not be 7-9 again and our issues won’t come up

by stufr on Apr 29, 2011 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions

Heheh.

Fair enough. I suppose that’s the way these things go, though.

That’s the way these things go though. I respect your opinion and really don’t hold grudges, in fact I don’t even remember what it was about in the past. I do remember a few days ago when you said essentially the same thing in a thread and I laughed about it.

I’m sure I may very well have been drunk, and I KNOW I was fired up in the moment, but that’s just me. Whatever it was, perhaps some day we can have a pint and laugh about it while we talk about our favorite team.

We shall win the war in the trenches, boys!!!

by Tyler Jorgensen on Apr 29, 2011 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions

Almost green

by stufr on Apr 29, 2011 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions

rec #10

by chrees on Apr 29, 2011 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions

Taking these kinds of guys in the mid rounds isn't patchwork guess work.

I know you think having a dominant right tackle is worth a first round pick, and maybe it can add that can’t of value to your team, but that does not mean thats where you should draft them. Kickers can also be highly valuable, we all remember Josh Brown’s contributions to the team, but you don’t draft them high because you can generally find the similar value for a fraction of the cost. I’m not against building a strong offensive line, I’m against spending like a fool to do it.

Our QB situation is a reflection of our lack of a strong OL

I’d love for you to expand on that because boy does that sound like the exact opposite of what you’ve been saying for a long time.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 6:49 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

Don't get me wrong.

Our QB situation has been bad, but so has our line play. We didn’t get a chance to fix one, at least we can fix the other in a single year. I’ll take that.

I’m not blaming Hasselbeck’s lack of performance on solely him or the talent surrounding him. They go hand in hand, and I’ve said that all along. I think, in the right situation, he could still be “okay” for a couple more years. By okay I mean barely tolerable.

I don’t believe that is with us. We need a strong armed play action guy, to fit with our newly found smashmouth style and the need to stretch the field once teams throw 8, 9 or 10 in the box. Hass isn’t that guy.

Perhaps if we would have addressed the OL a few years ago, Hass would look better with us today, but that ship has sailed and I wish him well wherever he ends up, at least 14 games a year, and maybe 16.

We shall win the war in the trenches, boys!!!

by Tyler Jorgensen on Apr 29, 2011 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions

And I'd also disagree that Moffitt is talented.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions

I honestly don't think at this point that you will ever think a road grading team of early OL non LT picks will ever be worth it.

If the team becomes stronger over a long period of time and yearly gets to address other issues because the line is set, will that improve/alter your perception, or are you stone cold adamant against it no matter if the results prove you wrong?

We shall win the war in the trenches, boys!!!

by Tyler Jorgensen on Apr 29, 2011 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions

Thats not true, I would have been fine with Carpenter, Hudson, Franklin in the second.

You’re jumping ahead again though. If the team becomes stronger over a long period of time and yearly gets to address other issues doesn’t change that they overspent to do it. They could have addressed other needs this year with their top picks and still picked guys similar to Moffitt a couple rounds later.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions

Similar to Moffitt in terms of relative assinged value

But how many will actually pan out? Most won’t. It’s easy to lump five guys together and say they’re basically the same guy, but in reality, 2 will be out of the league in a year, 2 will be backups, and 1 might just be a pro bowler. If Seattle’s confident in their scouting and think he’s the one who’s going to be the pro bowler, perhaps that’s why you take him. Instead of someone a round later who’s probably out of the league in a year. I don’t know, just a thought.

by B.B.Finnegan on Apr 29, 2011 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions

Well said, and kind of what I was getting at by taking them earlier, not later.

"When Pete first got here he said he wanted to establish the run and stop the run
Pete’s the architect and Cable’s the contractor." --Greetings from the Lord Humongous!

by Tyler Jorgensen on Apr 29, 2011 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions

Maybe they could have gotten those guys.

I have yet to see a team build their offensive line in a single year (or two years total) out of FA signings and 4th-6th round draft picks.

And Carpenter was a late riser and I think less a surprise pick to teams than to fans and (most) pundits.

"When Pete first got here he said he wanted to establish the run and stop the run
Pete’s the architect and Cable’s the contractor." --Greetings from the Lord Humongous!

by Tyler Jorgensen on Apr 29, 2011 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions

I just replied to you other comment with this but the Chiefs did it.

They had 1 first round pick, 3 undrafted free agents and a six round pick starting along their offensive line last year.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions

He never said it's impossible

Just less likely. I don’t see how that can be up for debate, it’s a self-evident point.

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions

No it's not.

I haven’t seen any evidence that building a good offensive line requires high draft picks across.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions

Maybe we're aiming for great, instead of just good

by Mpjohns3 on Apr 29, 2011 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions

But do we need to aim for great?

Will good suffice and let us shore up other parts of the team?

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2011 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions

Not all positions can be great, or even good

Nature of the NFL. Are you saying the FO is absolutely wrong prioritizing the OLine?

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions

I'm not saying they're absolutely anything.

But there are other needs on this team that are just as important that have gone unaddressed.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2011 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions

Yes

We have more needs than high picks. We already knew that coming into the draft. So what does one do?

(For the record I would’ve preferred Jimmy Smith to Carpenter)

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions

Not absolutely wrong

but they’re going about it in a questionable way. They’re using a lot of capital on positions that can probably be had cheaper while a position that demands the use of first round resources and can be a huge boon to the offensive line in and of itself is being neglected.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions

This is exactly the issue some people are having

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2011 7:43 PM PDT up reply actions

For example

Could we have taken Smith in the first to shore up corner, a similar tackle in the second round, and a similar guard in the fourth?

Perhaps it’s a slight decrease in line talent, but you might make up for it overall with much improved cornerback talent.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2011 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions

It boils down to people wondering if there are more resource smart ways to go about shoring up the line.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2011 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions

I can see this argument regarding Carpenter

Especially considering the talent on the board.

I don’t see it regarding Moffitt. We could’ve taken him at 57 and no one would’ve batted an eyelid, instead we got trade value and then picked him. Straight up value pick.

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 7:49 PM PDT up reply actions

Well, could we get a guard with that #2 pick in the fourth round

that provides most of what Moffitt can?

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2011 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions

So someone shiny in the first, a tackle in the second, a guard in the fourth.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2011 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions

Have you seen some of the front 7 talent left?

Like I pointed out in another thread. Chris Carter, Sam Acho, Chris Ballard. I love where we’re sitting there in Dline. Off the top of my head, I can’t name a guard I like as much.

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions

Moffitt probably would have been gone by 99.

The best guard right now is Clint Boling who’s not athletic enough to playing in the Seahawks’ scheme. Then there’s a big drop off.

by Coach Owens on Apr 29, 2011 7:55 PM PDT up reply actions

I agree about Carpenter, I would have liked Smith at 1.25, but with his red flags it's hard to find too much fault

If he ends up suspended/in jail/out of the league for behavioral issues than the Carpenter pick looks very smart.

by Mpjohns3 on Apr 29, 2011 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions

Moffitt is the Andy Dalton of guards.

Pretty average athleticism, gritty, winner. Gets a lot of credit for the run first attitude of Wisconsin’s scheme. But thats what this FO wants. They need dirtbag road graders to clear the way for Beastmode.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 7:53 PM PDT up reply actions

What position are you talking about?

There were no likely QB prospects at 25. Could’ve argued for Mallett at 57, I guess, but I like trading back and getting good value.

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions

Well, I like Mallett a lot but he was never in the works.

It’s a good point, that guy probably wasn’t there. I don’t think quarterback is the only position more scarce than guard though. This team doesn’t have a second starting corner back and doesn’t have a 3-tech on the roster. Those are spots that require better athletes.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions

Maybe the front office likes Tru, Thurmond, and Browner

more than we know. And thinks those 3 at corner are perfectly suitable with a depth pick late in the draft. Or we’re planning on spending big for Nhamdi once free agency opens up. It’s hard to fault the process when we don’t know all of it.

by Mpjohns3 on Apr 29, 2011 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions

We're in agreement there

But I know my manlove for Jimmy Smith is completely unrational.

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions

If you have a great O-line, most of the other parts are pretty interchangeable

by Mpjohns3 on Apr 29, 2011 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions

Quarterback is not interchangeable.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions

Not completely.

But a great offensive line can make an average QB look very good. Pretty much any quarterback in the NFL can pick apart a defense if he has all day to throw it.

by Mpjohns3 on Apr 29, 2011 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions

Look at the Jets and Mark Sanchez.

by Coach Owens on Apr 29, 2011 7:44 PM PDT up reply actions

They're terrible at throwing the ball.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions

They seem to do pretty well for all that

Sanchez is worse than average though.

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions

As a team they do very well.

They’ve poured tons of resources into their defense and took advantage of uncapped years to put together the best offensive line in football and surround the quarterback they took fifth overall (even the defense first three yards and a cloud of dust Jets knew they had to find a franchise QB) with weapons. If the Seahawks want to follow the Jets’ path they’ll need to sign Nnamdi, the Josephs, Mebane, Spencer and TO. And their defense still wouldn’t match the Jets’.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions

We're not fielding a competitive team this year

Was that ever in question? It shouldn’t have been.

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions

Coach said to look at the Jets

I was just trying to explain why, beyond the fact that they’re terrible at throwing the ball, they’re not the best example of how to build a team.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions

I was saying how a good OL

can make an average QB look much better than he is.

by Coach Owens on Apr 29, 2011 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions

But they haven't.

Sanchez looks good because he’s a “winner”.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions

According to the press he's a good QB.

by Coach Owens on Apr 29, 2011 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions

According to the press we passed on the next Joe Montana when we didn't draft Dalton.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions

He wasn't pointing at them for how to build a team

Just for the relation OL-mediocre QB

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions

That doesn't make sense

By definition investing higher picks provides for a better chance at getting good players. Isn’t that the whole point of the draft?

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions

Sure, but that doesn't mean it's required.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 7:42 PM PDT up reply actions

Nor is it for QBs

We’ve had a couple of UDFA QBs work out. By your logic, that means we should just gamble on being able to do that again?

I get what you’re saying, though, RT and OG are position where you can get viable starters more easily in later rounds. That doesn’t negate the value of more talent on the OLine though.

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions

Thats not my logic at all.

It’s not that it happens once in a while, it’s consistent enough to be a viable way to build an offensive line. And I’m not advocating only using UDFAs.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 7:59 PM PDT up reply actions

And I'm saying

That the fact that a position tends to have decent value in middle rounds doesn’t mean the draft becomes meaningless as a way to rank talent. It’s different for each position. I don’t believe in 1st-round RBs anymore, and I do believe LT, CB, QB and DE remain the premium 1st-round positions, but with enough talent almost any position can be vaulted up into the 1st (specialists aside).

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions

Fair enough.

How many years did they shuffle low tier guys in and out before they finally found the 4 6th round or later guys? Or did it take them several years to get those guys?

"When Pete first got here he said he wanted to establish the run and stop the run
Pete’s the architect and Cable’s the contractor." --Greetings from the Lord Humongous!

by Tyler Jorgensen on Apr 29, 2011 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions

Fucking amazingly put.

by kevin_ess on Apr 29, 2011 7:56 PM PDT up reply actions

Defense will be better

now that they’ll actually be able to get off the field once in a while

by Lock_down on Apr 29, 2011 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions

Yes

by stufr on Apr 29, 2011 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions

Not neccesarilly

Lynch is still the dirt cheap back, could be a system with more faith in the O-Line than runners

by G-Mo on Apr 29, 2011 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions

This organization just doesn't inspire confidence in me yet.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2011 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions

It doesn't scare the shit out of me or piss me off, though, and I kinda see that as a plus.

I don’t mind conservative as opposed to stupid and reckless.

by Matt Erickson on Apr 29, 2011 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions

He's not under contract for very long, remember.

by MT Olson on Apr 29, 2011 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions

Taiwan Jones is still there right?

by aerozeppelin on Apr 29, 2011 6:23 PM PDT reply actions

Rams finally get a receiver.

But Pettis is a reach in round 3.

by Coach Owens on Apr 29, 2011 6:23 PM PDT reply actions

D'oh! Rams got their guy

by Modrik Zutar on Apr 29, 2011 6:23 PM PDT reply actions

I'm guessing we go D-line early and often tomorrow

Offseason 2011: Kelly Jennings, Craig Terrill, and Matt Hasselbeck...good riddance.

by Wayward Llama on Apr 29, 2011 6:23 PM PDT reply actions

Getting word the Seahawks are looking to re-tool the o-line

RB by committee featuring Beef Moe, Forsett, Leonard Weaver with a bionic leg, TJ Duckett, and Michael Turner.

"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles

by SSreporters on Apr 29, 2011 6:24 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

More Moffitt

http://www.buckys5thquarter.com/2011/4/28/2138396/nfl-draft-2011-predictions-projections-wisconsin-football

by bdf128 on Apr 29, 2011 6:24 PM PDT reply actions

I don't know why I'm so angry right now.

I don’t know anything about any of these players, and I just feel like Q/PM have no idea what they’re doing this year.

How will you spend YOUR Sundays now?

by Hmph on Apr 29, 2011 6:25 PM PDT reply actions

They don't. They are just tossing darts at a board to decide who to pick.

Offseason 2011: Kelly Jennings, Craig Terrill, and Matt Hasselbeck...good riddance.

by Wayward Llama on Apr 29, 2011 6:26 PM PDT up reply actions

I thought it was horseshoes

by stufr on Apr 29, 2011 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions

Now that's how the writers for Lost chose plot points.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2011 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

I am going to punch you.

by wilsonpdx on Apr 29, 2011 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions

You're only angry because deep down you suspect this is true.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2011 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs

Looks to me like they had a plan going in

and are executing it.

This is the year we shore up our O-Line. Makes sense to me!

by chrees on Apr 29, 2011 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

We have weapons.

Now we’re getting a new O line.

Have a bajillion $ in cap space, so it looks like FA $ will be for the D.

Mayby Namde

70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.

by hazbro24 on Apr 29, 2011 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions

drool

by Mpjohns3 on Apr 29, 2011 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs

The guy I really really want is Terrance Tolliver

by Modrik Zutar on Apr 29, 2011 6:25 PM PDT reply actions

We should draft Kristofer O’Dowd and have a mauling line...

by Trojan Knight on Apr 29, 2011 6:25 PM PDT reply actions

Skins are having themselves a good draft

Work hard, play harder, rest easy.

by jwolf0 on Apr 29, 2011 6:27 PM PDT reply actions

I can't wait until they get a quarterback!

Which should be….when exactly?

"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles

by SSreporters on Apr 29, 2011 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions

F it. Keep McNabb.

70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.

by hazbro24 on Apr 29, 2011 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions

You mean Grossman isn't the answer? Shocked, I am.

I think they had a lot of other issues to fix anyway.

Work hard, play harder, rest easy.

by jwolf0 on Apr 29, 2011 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions

You gotta unleash the dragon.

by aerozeppelin on Apr 29, 2011 6:29 PM PDT up reply actions

THE SEX CANNON!

"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles

by SSreporters on Apr 29, 2011 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions

Screen passes are for pussies

by bdeviled11 on Apr 29, 2011 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions

fuck it, I'm going deep.

70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.

by hazbro24 on Apr 29, 2011 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions

Check down...Kevin Spacey gay.

by bdeviled11 on Apr 29, 2011 6:35 PM PDT up reply actions

Mayock said on the radio that the Skins are gonna keep Rex

Shanny loves him

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Apr 29, 2011 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions

4 Fullbacks tomorrow for sure for Seattle

by Farrell on Apr 29, 2011 6:27 PM PDT reply actions

Stanley Havili

by Trojan Knight on Apr 29, 2011 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions

Awesome, New England gets another second next year.

by Coach Owens on Apr 29, 2011 6:28 PM PDT reply actions

Great, Pats get another 2nd rounder next year from the Raiders....

by aerozeppelin on Apr 29, 2011 6:28 PM PDT reply actions

The Patriots are by far the smartest team in the league.

king bill

by insidetheparker on Apr 29, 2011 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions

Fuck you Raiders

by G-Mo on Apr 29, 2011 6:28 PM PDT reply actions

CARROLL!

"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles

by SSreporters on Apr 29, 2011 6:30 PM PDT reply actions

Pete's on ESPN2 right now

by Modrik Zutar on Apr 29, 2011 6:30 PM PDT reply actions

thanks!

by insidetheparker on Apr 29, 2011 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions

Is everything awesome?

"Those who fear disorder more than injustice inevitably produce more of both." -- Rev. William Coffin

by dcrockett17 on Apr 29, 2011 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions

pumped up awesome.

70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.

by hazbro24 on Apr 29, 2011 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions

Carroll on ESPN

by Mpjohns3 on Apr 29, 2011 6:30 PM PDT reply actions

2....

Dammit

by Mpjohns3 on Apr 29, 2011 6:30 PM PDT up reply actions

2 or El Dos?

by G-Mo on Apr 29, 2011 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions

And Oakland picks a speedy CB!

WHAT A SURPRISE!

by Coach Owens on Apr 29, 2011 6:31 PM PDT reply actions

NFL.com says his 40 time is 4.28

All you need to know.

Work hard, play harder, rest easy.

by jwolf0 on Apr 29, 2011 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions

Who busted pete's nose?

70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.

by hazbro24 on Apr 29, 2011 6:32 PM PDT reply actions

Holy shit... Just noticed that

It’s like a snake trying to slither its way off his face

by Mpjohns3 on Apr 29, 2011 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions

Got in a fistfight with Cable last week

Why do you think they’re drafting all linemen.

How will you spend YOUR Sundays now?

by Hmph on Apr 29, 2011 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs

I never realized how crooked Carrols nose is

by wadswerth on Apr 29, 2011 6:32 PM PDT reply actions

This draft is boring

I’m reading old game threads from last season.

Wins, losses, they’re all funny.

"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles

by SSreporters on Apr 29, 2011 6:32 PM PDT reply actions

Watch out for spoilers!

by BrooklynPreacher on Apr 29, 2011 6:32 PM PDT up reply actions

Crap, we lost 40-21 to the Niners

Ugly.

"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles

by SSreporters on Apr 29, 2011 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

"registered on the seismic scale".

Shut up, Berman.

How will you spend YOUR Sundays now?

by Hmph on Apr 29, 2011 6:33 PM PDT reply actions

Will the NFL draft be televised in 2017

when the Patriots officially hold every pick of the first 4 rounds?

70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.

by hazbro24 on Apr 29, 2011 6:35 PM PDT reply actions

They will try to trade down

by aerozeppelin on Apr 29, 2011 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

Foster is falling a bit

I can only hope

by stufr on Apr 29, 2011 6:36 PM PDT reply actions

Tomorrow is going to be really interesting.

7 picks I make it. Including some high 4ths.

by Scotia Seahawk on Apr 29, 2011 6:36 PM PDT reply actions

O-Line is good and all,

But if the team averages 3.8 YPC next year when everyone stacks the box because they don’t respect Charlie Whitehurst, Cable would probably get canned. Free Agency is going to be big for this team this offseason.

by mkries on Apr 29, 2011 6:36 PM PDT reply actions

I think our receivers and Charlie are good enough.

With a good O-line protecting him and a good running game, I think it will actually balance out nicely. Jesus has a strong arm and can stretch the field if he actually has enough time for our receivers to get down the field.

by Mpjohns3 on Apr 29, 2011 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions

See Matt Cassel in KC.

We’re going to duplicate that for starters and work our way up from there.

We shall win the war in the trenches, boys!!!

by Tyler Jorgensen on Apr 29, 2011 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions

Moffitt is being interviewed on the seahawks.com draft feed

by Jordinary on Apr 29, 2011 6:37 PM PDT reply actions

He's great

by insidetheparker on Apr 29, 2011 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions

Foster to TB

by trippsixxes on Apr 29, 2011 6:39 PM PDT reply actions

FOSTER!

by Coach Owens on Apr 29, 2011 6:39 PM PDT reply actions

Damnit

Foster is gone

by stufr on Apr 29, 2011 6:39 PM PDT reply actions

Seattle should redraft Nick Reed

"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles

by SSreporters on Apr 29, 2011 6:39 PM PDT reply actions

Nick Reed will draft the Seahawks

by Lock_down on Apr 29, 2011 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

conrats Mason!

by MrFootballguy on Apr 29, 2011 6:40 PM PDT reply actions

congrats*

by MrFootballguy on Apr 29, 2011 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions

Hey, Mason Foster just got picked

Go get ’em!

by BrooklynPreacher on Apr 29, 2011 6:40 PM PDT reply actions

Damn, I wanted Foster.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2011 6:40 PM PDT reply actions

Great pick there, TB

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 6:40 PM PDT reply actions

Stupid Bucs

by aerozeppelin on Apr 29, 2011 6:40 PM PDT reply actions

Tampa Bay is going to be beastly

"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles

by SSreporters on Apr 29, 2011 6:41 PM PDT reply actions

Agree

by bonecruncher on Apr 29, 2011 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions

I hope not...

I enjoy making fun of all the fans

by Mpjohns3 on Apr 29, 2011 6:42 PM PDT up reply actions

The interview with Moffitt is awesome

This guy is fucking hilarious. Sounds like a great guy.

by stufr on Apr 29, 2011 6:42 PM PDT reply actions

I joined the peace corps for a year...

by bdeviled11 on Apr 29, 2011 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions

The Billy Madison thing was awesome.

by BrooklynPreacher on Apr 29, 2011 6:44 PM PDT up reply actions

Foster is a great grab this late.

Grats Foster, you will be missed at UW.

by kschimke on Apr 29, 2011 6:42 PM PDT reply actions

Holy crap, KC just snatched up Allen Bailey

by Modrik Zutar on Apr 29, 2011 6:46 PM PDT reply actions

That defense is gonna be beastly

by Matt Erickson on Apr 29, 2011 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions

Crap, Nevis is gone.

Work hard, play harder, rest easy.

by jwolf0 on Apr 29, 2011 6:47 PM PDT reply actions

Aw, Nevis is gone.

by Coach Owens on Apr 29, 2011 6:47 PM PDT reply actions

Shit. Was hoping he'd be there in the morning.

by Modrik Zutar on Apr 29, 2011 6:47 PM PDT reply actions

Pete is on NFLN now lol

by Modrik Zutar on Apr 29, 2011 6:48 PM PDT reply actions

Yay

Love national coverage for Seahawks

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 6:48 PM PDT up reply actions

I feel like we're copying the Jets formula.

They got D’Brick and Mangold first. Next draft worked on the D (Hopefully next year). And nurtured their stud QB with a great running game. That’s are road to success. I believe.

by insidetheparker on Apr 29, 2011 6:50 PM PDT reply actions

Stud QB?

I do hope we pick a better QB than they did

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions

The Jets have a stud QB?

by Happybelly on Apr 29, 2011 6:51 PM PDT up reply actions

Eisen asking about the QB run

“Right now Charlie is all we got!”

Plus talking about free agency, mentioning Matt

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 6:51 PM PDT reply actions

Didn't he say he was our 3rd rounder unfortunately

Sounds like buyers remorse

by aerozeppelin on Apr 29, 2011 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions

If Matt Hasselbeck comes back, this revamped line is going to look bad again.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2011 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions

Why do you say that

by stufr on Apr 29, 2011 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions

Because they'll block for ages while Matt Hasselsacks himself.

"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles

by SSreporters on Apr 29, 2011 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions

He will trip, but have handed the ball off first

by stufr on Apr 29, 2011 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions

And whoever is carrying the ball will run into a 10 man front and get tackled for a loss.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs

Hasseltoss?

"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles

by SSreporters on Apr 29, 2011 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions

I really do believe bad QB play makes an entire offense (particularly the line) look bad as well.

Heck, I think the line we had last season would have looked serviceable with a better QB

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2011 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions

I think the exact opposite of that

by stufr on Apr 29, 2011 6:55 PM PDT up reply actions

I think stating absolutely that it works either way is a mistake

They interact, in both directions.

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions

I think it depend on the quality of either

If you have a great QB, he can make everyone else on that offense look better. If you don’t, a talented OL is the best way to make everyone else better. A great OL gives an average QB time and WRs open. Most good RBs are actually just average RBs behind great lines.
So BrianL is correct, but we won’t be in a position for that to matter for a few years, so build what you can fix now.

by stufr on Apr 29, 2011 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions

Yes

Don’t take a QB in a shitty QB class. Take OLs in a great OL class.

I do kind of like that kind of thinking. Would’ve still liked Jimmy smith over Carpenter.

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions

But this was a good QB class and a weaker o-line class.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions

When all QBs are projects

I don’t think its’ a good class

by Mpjohns3 on Apr 29, 2011 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions

I don't agree with that.

All college quarterbacks are projects. The polished guys are usually players like Ponder and Clausen.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 7:05 PM PDT up reply actions

The players this year seem much farther from starter worthy than in most years.

Almost every single one is probably 2-3 years out from just being able to handle everything the NFL will throw at them, not even taking into account if they will be good or not once they’re out there.

by Mpjohns3 on Apr 29, 2011 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions

They're not

It just seems that way because they’re getting draft so ridiculously high. Dalton in the 2nd? Kaepernick a high 2nd? Ponder and Locker at the top 1st? It’s ridiculous.

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 7:10 PM PDT up reply actions

Exactly why I consider this a weak QB class.

Players are being drafted much much MUCH earlier than where they should be going. There is a lack of top end QB talent, yet QB needy teams, so they are being overdrafted. If these players were drafted later then being 2-3 years out from starting capable wouldn’t be an issue because it’s expected from that draft position. Where they are being drafted they should be ready to jump onto the field this season, which I just don’t see from this group.

by Mpjohns3 on Apr 29, 2011 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions

It seems like it wasn't that long ago that fans lamented having to play quarterbacks in the rookie or sophomore years.

I though the platitude was that the best way to develop a quarterback was to have him sit behind a veteran and learn for a couple years? The NFL has adapted to the high cost of first round quarterbacks by playing them early and limiting the play book.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions

I think a rookie quarterback should sit for a year unless the pieces around them are complete.

Mostly the O-line. If there is protection then I think a polished rookie can succeed. If there is no offensive line then you get a David Carr, who is pummeled into the turf so repeatedly that he loses just about any chance of a career because of being thrown into a bad situation. The QBs this year don’t just need to get used to NFL game speed though, they have major flaws in their game that need fixing before being ready behind even the most solid line.

by Mpjohns3 on Apr 29, 2011 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the line we fielded last year wasn't all that terrible at pass pro was it?

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2011 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions

The line we fielded last year constantly needed help from extra blockers

It was a patch-work line at best and most of its components are FAs.

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions

Nope

Two TEs made it work

by stufr on Apr 29, 2011 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions

Even with running a lot of 2 TE sets, we were 16th in sacks allowed.

Not terrible, but definitely not good

by Mpjohns3 on Apr 29, 2011 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions

12th in sack RATE however.

Recently engaged! Best. Off-season. Ever.

by Cheddar28 on Apr 29, 2011 11:44 PM PDT up reply actions

When it was healthy.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions

I'm putting a hit on the next person to roll over Okung's ankles.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2011 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions

Last time it was BMW.

It’d be cool if maybe you made an exception for the good ones.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions

I think Polumbus, Okung, Spencer, Gibson all did respectably well at pass blocking.

See the ARI games, the Denver game, the playoffs, etc.

Recently engaged! Best. Off-season. Ever.

by Cheddar28 on Apr 29, 2011 11:45 PM PDT up reply actions

What quarterback isn't 2-3 years away from being able to handle everything the NFL throws at them?

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions

Its not the development time

Its what the odds are that they come through that development and are a quality starter

by stufr on Apr 29, 2011 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions

Exactly.

They are being drafted way too high for 2-3 years and then questionable if they will even be able to develop into a quality NFL quarterback in that time

by Mpjohns3 on Apr 29, 2011 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions

Polished guys are players like Andrew Luck.

Drooooooool…..

by wyte_lightning on Apr 29, 2011 7:09 PM PDT up reply actions

But what would you do if you had to choose between Luck and Mallett?

by bdeviled11 on Apr 29, 2011 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions

Yeah and he's talked about as the best quarterback prospect in a decade by some people.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions

I think there's a very real possibility we might look back at this draft in a few years and cringe.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2011 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions

Specifically the Seahawks?

Or the quality of the draft in general?

by Mpjohns3 on Apr 29, 2011 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions

Specifically the Seahawks.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2011 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions

Why exactly?

by Mpjohns3 on Apr 29, 2011 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions

I think we will look back at this draft as the foundation that built a contender

by stufr on Apr 29, 2011 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions

Yep.

by bdeviled11 on Apr 29, 2011 7:16 PM PDT up reply actions

I think we won't know until 3 years from now

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions

Agreed

by stufr on Apr 29, 2011 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions

3 years from now i'll probably forget to look back on what happened 3 years ago, three years from now

by B.B.Finnegan on Apr 29, 2011 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions

Never would have won that super bowl without John Moffitt!

I can hear myself saying it now.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions

Would you have said it about Huch or Walt

by stufr on Apr 29, 2011 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions

Neither of the guys we've drafted are anywhere close to Hutch or Walter.

by BrianL on Apr 29, 2011 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions

We got Hutch at 17

Thats not that much different then 25

by stufr on Apr 29, 2011 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions

Moffit was taken at 75.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions

But Carpenter was at 25

And you don’t know if he will have a better or worse career than Hutch. you can pretend like you do, but he is a first round talent, just like Hutch was.

by stufr on Apr 29, 2011 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions

This is willfully ignorant of the two players situations.

It’s entirely possible that Carpenter goes on to be a hall of fame player, but come on.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions

Thats all I am saying is that

You have to use some rose colored glasses looking into the past to think that Hutch was a sure thing. People were pissed off when we took him saying that we had reached. It is eerily similar.

by stufr on Apr 29, 2011 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions

Well thats kind of the point.

At those positions thats the kind of player you have to get up into that range of player to justify it.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions

Jesus...

At those positions you have to get up into that range of player to justify it.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions

Walt sure.

Hutch was great, he’s got a chance at the hall, but I wonder if Seahawk fans would be so crazy about the offensive line if they’d replaced him with a guard that was even average at the time. There was enough other talent on that team that I wouldn’t be shocked if they would have still been very successful even without him.

And what Brian said.

by Nate Dogg on Apr 29, 2011 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions

It was a weak class at the top in the O-line, but deep

I think this was an at-best-mediocre class for QB, but more so than disliking the class, I disliked the huge rush for them. There’s a ridiculous amount of overdraft, and I’m absolutely ecstatic we didn’t go along with that.

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions

It was deep in projects

But not really that great overall. Past the top 3 they are really hopeful projects

by stufr on Apr 29, 2011 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions

It was deep in projects

But not really that great overall. Past the top 3 they are really hopeful projects

by stufr on Apr 29, 2011 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions

I think the right kind of character is important to PC

BMW was fine because he wanted to work.
White was cut because he was lazy.

We passed on Mallet and Smith, when they would have been good value. I’m guessing that there was an attitude issue that PC won’t compromise on.

by stufr on Apr 29, 2011 7:03 PM PDT up reply actions

I like to think of the QB OL relationship as a delicate membrane.

One side of the membrane affects the other.

by forte40 on Apr 29, 2011 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions

This is all a play to get Luck/Barkley in 2012

by aerozeppelin on Apr 29, 2011 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions

Call me old fashioned, but I still think he's a good QB when he has a good line

Which is never.

by DetectiveM on Apr 29, 2011 6:59 PM PDT up reply actions

Hasselbeck's mistakes are almost independent of the line.

"If I had a dollar for every brain you don't have, I'd have one dollar." - Squidward Tentacles

by SSreporters on Apr 29, 2011 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions

I mean, he's clearly paranoid in the pocket.

by DetectiveM on Apr 29, 2011 7:00 PM PDT up reply actions

Pete isn't at all convinced of Charlie

by aerozeppelin on Apr 29, 2011 6:51 PM PDT reply actions

Pete should run for office.

by bdeviled11 on Apr 29, 2011 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions

This guy sounds Canadian!

by Coach Owens on Apr 29, 2011 6:52 PM PDT reply actions

Is it wrong that when watching the highlights of this DB the Saints took,

I was looking to see if he didn’t bite on a double move?

Work hard, play harder, rest easy.

by jwolf0 on Apr 29, 2011 6:53 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs

Enjoy Shareece Wright you fucks.

by DetectiveM on Apr 29, 2011 6:54 PM PDT reply actions

I'm devastated

I was so sure he’d be ours

by Stormton on Apr 29, 2011 7:01 PM PDT up reply actions

"We're trying to explain the Raiders, you know."

I chuckled.

Work hard, play harder, rest easy.

by jwolf0 on Apr 29, 2011 7:03 PM PDT reply actions

Without having UDFA it looks like Seattle wants a lot of bodies in "camp" whenever that is... Just Compete.

by bdeviled11 on Apr 29, 2011 7:04 PM PDT reply actions

I'm a little wary of this attitude.

It feels like the smart kid who coasted with good grades in high school by “winging it”. Then he goes to a good college, and figures he can just “wing” his next exam. The only problem is that he’s not in a high school algebra class- he’s in an advanced physics class at a high-end university.

If Pete was so good at “uncovering gems”, wouldn’t he have found at least one during his three years running the Patriot’s draft?

Look at the Pats now- they don’t “make smart picks”, they simply stockpile so many of them, that some are bound to work out.

I don’t hate the guys we drafted. I just feel that the team was unprepared and didn’t have a good idea of how the draft was going to go. I think they would have been more proactive in getting value from these picks (by drafting guys or trading for future picks).

by mkries on Apr 29, 2011 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions

I disagree on the notion that we were unprepared.

It looks to me like we had a plan, and executed it while grabbing an extra pick and moving up in the later rounds.

by eeezzbok on Apr 29, 2011 7:27 PM PDT up reply actions

I think the fact we couldn't trade down from 25 is somewhat damning.

Carpenter is a nice player, but I don’t think anyone “had a beat” on the guy. I think if the Seahawks had pegged Carpenter as their guy, they would have been much quicker to jump on a deal.

I guess what I’m saying is that I don’t trust Carroll & Schneider’s ability to uncover hidden talent over that of your average NFL team. And at this point, C&S’s opinion (along with Cable, I suppose) of these guys is all we really have to go on. We’ll have to wait and see.

All I can say- considering we took the “safe” route… these guys had better be at least average offensive linemen.

Watching 15+ hours of draft coverage turns my mind into a clusterfuck, and Fieldgulls has become the place where my brain goes to vomit the residue:)

by mkries on Apr 29, 2011 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions

Why don't you think anyone had a beat on him?

How do you know the Steelers or Packers would not have preferred him to the picks they made?

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 8:11 PM PDT up reply actions

I guess I don't.

And that’s always the ultimate problem I have with watching the draft- the information asymmetry. And ultimately, as I have said before- just about any player that becomes a “good” player is by default a “good” pick. Simply receiving positive affirmation from outside sources feels better, but doesn’t actually tell us anything useful.

by mkries on Apr 29, 2011 8:13 PM PDT up reply actions

Did Pete run the Patriots' draft?

Someone fill me in, I dunno.

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions

That was part of the complaint he had with his first NFL experiences...

that there were too many cooks in the kitchen and his philosophy didn’t gel well with the Front Office. So that makes me think no.

"When Pete first got here he said he wanted to establish the run and stop the run
Pete’s the architect and Cable’s the contractor." --Greetings from the Lord Humongous!

by Tyler Jorgensen on Apr 29, 2011 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions

1999 was along time ago. I also do not believe he had full control back then.

I’m sure he has learned a thing or two.

by Trojan Knight on Apr 29, 2011 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions

Yep, I think a lot of coaches learn a thing or two during their first go at it.

I don’t really remember what Belichick did in Cleavland as far as the draft goes, but I know it wasn’t what he’s doing now.

by eeezzbok on Apr 29, 2011 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions

I agree with you , but that's what the strategy is starting to look like.

What’s even more amazing is the lack of skill positions they invest in while using this strategy.

But I look at Seattle not investing in a “name” QB like Mallett at the beginning of the draft, is because they don’t want to look like Carolina next year, in a Clausen situation. If they take a developmental qb like McElroy, and then a QB with a high pick next year, a lot less controversy would be involved.

by bdeviled11 on Apr 29, 2011 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions

Rich Cimini
Kenrick Ellis facing July jury trial for felony assault charge, facing 20 yrs in prison, according to Daily Press in Newport News, Va. #Jets

That is not what you want to hear right after picking him

by Thomas Beekers on Apr 29, 2011 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions