Your Turn to Grade the Seahawks' Draft Class

Because it wasn’t spectacular but it was a very, very solid draft that lays the foundations of what is to come. All the players combined are game-makers/breakers/winners but no single player is (to me, at least), so that constitutes a ‘B’ draft.

in 5 years.

I’d be surprised if we had more than two starters a year or two from this draft class. My money is on Moffitt and Carpenter are going to be starting up front for a while.

I think a couple guys can find ways to add value throughout the next couple years. Perhaps one of KJ Wright/Malcolm Smith can become a Leo or pass-rush specialist. (Though I’m not sure if Smith will ever get big enough). Perhaps LeGree can contribute as a nickelback or Bandit-back. Maybe Kris Durham can add some value inside the 20s.

I’m not trying to be a Debbie Downer, but based on what I see and think might happen, I’m giving it a C-. Though I’m more than willing to be victim to a pleasant surprise or two.
Go Hawks.

I’m not excited or impressed by any of the picks made in the absence of a FA period but am cautiously optimistic that the FO has a plan. I’ll try to figure out a grade once I’ve got a better understanding of the plan and how it works out.

I was pissed when you guys got John Moffitt. Not quite up there with the Cardinals landing Patrick Peterson, but Moffitt’s gonna be good.

Side A: The defensive line is now at the mercy of too many question marks including the ones surrounding Mebane, Clemons longevity, Bryant’s health, and lack of depth. The added secondary talent most likely will not be enough to immediately offset how cripplingly bad our pass rush could become. Additionally, no long-term contributions to the QB spot which could really hurt. I include Whitehurst in this draft class so that’s fine, but if he doesn’t pan out and Thurmond doesn’t pan out we could have a terrible 2011 campaign.

Defensive line talent kept coming off the board right before our picks. I have always been a proponent of maximizing the value of each pick so I’m glad we never reached for D-line players the FO wasn’t high on for that spot. The fact that we have Whitehurst, though not a perfect solution, is miles better than having only a project QB on the roster. Mallett clearly wasn’t gonna buy in to Carroll’s approach and that’s a shame but if it won’t work, it won’t. Furthermore, LB depth, OL depth, and Secondary depth will likely not be issues for a while now and that’s awesome. Carpenter seems like good value for a late first (people really need to remember the diff between late and early first round when judging Carpenter), ditto Moffitt at his spot, and all the rest of their guys are specialized players which is what this staff excels in utilizing (see Clemons, Bryant, Milloy, ET).

So, in conclusion, though we’re in a dangerous immediate situation pending free agency, not only did this draft gets us a long way, but Q/PM made the best of tough situations when they got on the clock and I’m pleased with it. I voted B+.

I love the first two picks, but I feel as though we really ended up focusing on the secondary to the detriment of the defensive line, especially because there were some good late-round prospects we missed out on. For example, I’m at least somewhat biased, but Lawrence Guy should be on this team. He will do more than stick in the NFL, seventh-round pick be damned.

It’s hard to do this, though, because I don’t know what other FA moves Schneider and Carroll are planning. If their moves go something like re-sign Mebane/sign Gallery/trade for Palmer or Kolb, then the grade goes up. None of us have the necessary context to grade the draft relative to what we need for next year.

I see a vision. The OL is now a strength, not a weakness— and with a little more tinkering in FA should be for years to come.

Durham helps get us much bigger on the outside, and paired with BMW will be a match up nightmare for smaller CB tandems. I think he’ll contribute substantially.

Also of importance, this as an offense that did address QB. It did so by addressing other offensive needs, and is now more than ever set up to succeed with Charlie at QB. A big road grading line and three solid running backs. Big WR’s on the outside. I say Charlie because he’s a prototypical play-action type QB. We will run, and when teams put 8+ in the box to stop the run, we’ll attack vertically down the seams, and utilize the TE’s once again as receivers not just as blockers.

Is it traditional WCO? No. But then it does model what Pete did at USC, and the current Philly/GB WCO veins (if with more of a running bent). And if it doesn’t work, well, that’s okay. We’ll struggle for a year and address the QB sans Charlie a year from now, with the sort of high draft pick that you take a top flight QB with. But if it does work, then we’ve truly “fixed” the offense without going through that drama of developing a top 10 1st round draft pick type QB, and the issues inherent with that model. Plus if it does work, we can then take a QB in the very near future to actually develop— crazy thought, I know.

I also like that we addressed the defense as much as possible given the overall context— you can’t do everything at once. But we have, as much as possible, fixed the offense.

The defense? One area has been addressed in detail— the rest will simply have to wait. We’ll continue to work the plug and play dynamic and address it as well as possible in the short term, and in the long term hopefully in next year’s draft.

This draft worked better than anything I could have foreseen— including a precipitous fall to 25 by Jake, which is what I had hoped against hope for going in. I have been pessimistic for too long, and was even pessimistic going into the draft. That has all changed, and I am now in the Pete and John camp.

Even if I think Schneider looks douchey in the war room.

It don’t think it does a lot to help the team right away, but they put in place some really nice building blocks in place for the future. While I wasn’t able to recognise a lot of the names when they got drafted I like the fact that we got bigger, younger, tougher and nastier. I’m looking forward to dropping the finesse label we’ve acquired over the years.

 I’m really excited about Legree. He looks to be a big time ball hawk and playmaker and figures to get some playtime in the nickel and bandit packages. I like the idea of having 2 big time ball hawks in the secondary. Sherman is also an exciting prospect. Carroll’s had a man crush on him for years and seems to have big plans for him.

Also looking forward to seeing some press coverage this year. All the short easy passes we gave up last year were really demoralizing and it was painful watching teams have 12 play drives against us. KJ Wright should also help our pass defense from the scouting reports I’ve read.

My only disappointment was the lack of attention given to the D-Line. I don’t know if Pete/John were interested but it was a bit of a blow to see Nevis and Casey drafted before our pick. I really worry about the 3-tech spot if Mebane isn’t resigned.

I’m not that annoyed we didn’t draft a QB. Maybe the Whitehurst trade wasn’t so horrible. He’s probably better than a QB we would have drafted at the pick we gave to SD and I thought it was a worthwhile risk based on his upside.

 But free agency and trades are yet to come so we’ll see what Pete/John can come up with. I’m hoping they have a few Clemons/Williams players up their sleeves. I wonder who Pete will take on as a new reclamation project this off-season. I’m also excited to find out their plan for QB. Anyway, 2 drafts in I’m pretty happy with what they accomplished.

I would move this grade up to an A if in 3 years Moffitt, Carpenter and 1 other player is starting. I can’t give it an A right now because I feel that would be equating it to Tampa Bay, Kansas City, or Detroit’s draft classes which I feel are superior. I feel we’re just a level below that because to get a A grade for me you have to pull off some serious steals and get great value like the Hawks 2010 draft. Of course Carpenter or any of this years class could well end up being talked about as a steal in the future

Carpenter…. A+
Moffit….A+
Durham is absolutely awesome and can’t wait for him to break records….. I was stoked when they picked him…… Seriously.A++++++++++
LeGree…. Pretty high on him, if he doesn’t catch 15 interceptions then I’ll let anyone who doesn’t like my idea of Durham lick my hairy….. Cat. A+++++++++++++++++
all in all I give this draft a B+

They concentrated on areas of immediate need and beefed up the O-line immeasurably. The secondary and ST should see improvement as well, leaving only the D-line as perhaps the single glaring need. The QB situation should be interesting…the picks made give Charlie a chance to succeed, but the FO may have the idea of bringing in Leinart, Travaris Jackson or Palmer to compete for the spot, with a #3 QB brought in via rookie free agency. Just glad that they didn’t panic (like a certain purple team did) and reach for a QB when the other needs they had were far more pressing.

I think that JS and Carroll went into this draft with a vision to FINALLY address the issues on the offense line, which have made our running game a joke since 2006. Unfortunately, the absence of free agency has really left us with an incomplete picture of what’s going on with this team. I have a feeling we will be targeting D-line and QB immediately when the lockout is lifted. I don’t mind not getting these positions in the draft. As I watched other teams reaching on project QB’s like Kaepernick or Dalton, I was just happy our guys had the brains to stick to their board and vision.

They finally tipped their hand as to how they are going to build the team. They have been saying it all along, but lots of FOs say lots of things and it doesn’t translate into picks or FA pickups. We are going to establish the run. I love it.
So the first thing that I would grade is how did we do along the road to developing our team. I only really count the first three rounds. After that any starters that you pick up are a bonus, but you should be picking long term starters in the first three rounds. I love our first two picks, they will directly contribute to the vision of the team and most likely the BPA which addressed our needs. If we had another 1-3 rounder I would have liked to see a D-lineman picked, but we didn’t.
 From the fourth on you have to look at the BPA. Its difficult to target a position and find a starter in the later rounds. I am assuming that they didn’t like, or had issue with the D-line talent later on, but they found good talent anyway. Between Duhram and the DBs it looks like we have a starter and a lot of contributors. That’s the most you can hope from the later rounds.
So its a solid A for the first two rounds and our limitations and an incomplete on the later rounds. The A gets moved to an A- because we didn’t address the D-Line and just give us more depth, but like I said, I’m not upset about that based on that not being where you find a starter anyway.

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How do this guy remind you of?

I give an A, because the Seahawks had a plan and they executed it, particularly where getting bigger and stronger on the O-line is concerned, and apparently still got most of the players they were targeting.

They went in with the idea to trade down, and while they couldn’t do that in the first round, they took the player that they had highest on their board in James Carpenter, a Day One starter and a guy with the talent that justifies a first round pick, and offers the versatility to play multiple positions on the line.

In the second round, the Seahawks traded down into the third round, and picked up John Mofitt, someone that they would have been prepared to take in the second round and they added an extra pick in the fourth round, which they used on KJ Wright, a potential starter down the line.

Annoyed the completely neglected the D-line. Annoyed they skipped out on QB.

If this off season was a game of Texas Holdem, the river card (free agency) is about to turn and John and Pete just went all in.

But it’s a solid C+.

The plan isn’t bad and I don’t mind taking OL with the first two picks. One is pegged as a reach and the other as a steal. Balances out.

The Durgam pick was just weird and still feels unnecessary, but we’ll see how it pans out (years from now. WRs tend to need two years more so than some other positions).

I like getting stronger, bigger and more athletic in the secondary but 3 picks in a row while neglecting other needs? Eh.

Not a fan of the Byron Maxwell or Lazarius picks, in particular.

We’ll see.

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Seems like a decision from the 8th circuit is coming soon; If it does, we’ll either have the doors open shortly, or lockout til summer.

I expected the 8th to drag its feet a bit. Exciting times!

I would have liked to seen a DT in the mix some where. Our draft position did sort of handcuff us but the BeastQuake was worth it. I think its a fairly solid draft for our circumstances.

On the old school C being average scale.

I’ve tried to sell myself on this draft, and to an extent I’ve succeeded in moving on from the initial shock and dismay upon the announcement of several picks. I don’t totally buy that they had a plan and got their guys- what else are they going to say? Without delving into inane arguments of what constitutes a reach and fully understanding I don’t know what happened in the draft room or what other plans they have in the works, it does seem to me that some of the picks weren’t great values.

I like James Carpenter and he was a guy I would have been very excited about getting at #57, but at #25 that pick was a little tough to swallow. I understand that he was apparently valued highly by other teams picking at the end of the first round, whether or not they would have picked him we’ll never know, but with Jimmy Smith there I still think that may be a pick the Seahawks regret. I hope I’m wrong. But living in CO, having watched a ton of terrible CU football and knowing a few people close to the program I feel like I have a pretty good handle on the pros and cons of Jimmy Smith and I think he would have been worth the risk. But, obviously, I’m not the one making the pick nor am I the one who would have to deal with the kid on a daily basis or the repercussions of his actions, so go James Carpenter! I hope he kicks some ass.

Similarly, I was really hoping for Drake Nevis with the next pick. I was excited when he was there at #57 and still there at #75. Maybe, with all the needs the Seahawks have, that’s too high for a guy that wouldn’t be three down player in their scheme, but to me the idea of Brock-Mebane-Nevis-Clemons going after the QB on passing downs has a lot of potential. Despite having seen him to the Seahawks in a few mock drafts, I never really considered the Hawks picking John Moffitt. It was probably an oversight based on skimming draft profiles and combine results. Though slow in the 40, looking into it more Moffitt looks to be relatively agile and explosive in the ways an interior lineman needs to be in Seahawks blocking scheme as I understand it. I’m not big deferring to the expertise of coaches, gm’s or scouts but in the case Tom Cable and offensive linemen- I’ll humbly submit.

Concerns of value and other areas of great need aside, I do like the focus on the o-line. I am a believer that o-line can help out other positions and units on a football team more than any other position/unit- so good on the Seahawks for going out and addressing it. Hopefully these moves don’t just help the offense, but keeps the defense off the field more too- it’s a two way street since the D need to get better at getting themselves off the field, but the offense hung them out to dry with repeated three-and-outs way too many times last year.

KJ Wright is probably the pick that inspired the least reaction in me. I don’t know much about the guy, haven’t been able to dig up much video or info that sways me one way or another. Good size, decent athlete, durable, pretty good production, went about where he was projected to go. Looking forward to seeing how the Seahawks will use him and what he can do.

With the Durham pick, I was initially stunned as I knew next to nothing about him and I tried to remember anything about him from the Colorado game this near and I came up with nothing- I was pissed. Turns out he missed that game. I like the highlights, measurables and reputation for never dropping a ball but I do have some reservations about the guy. Not great numbers (though I recognize some things worked against him there), some injury history and 215 is pretty skinny for 6’5"- hope he can get off the line. From a pure projection standpoint, it is fun to think about the goal line options two 6’5" WR’s, a couple of good TE’s a hard running HB and a nasty O-Line give you. A lot of potential there.

I like Sherman. I like LeGree. I like their potential as individual players. More than that I like what I think they represent conceptually. Big corners who mug WRs off the line backed up with ball-hawking safeties. What’s missing from that is a d-line that harasses the QB into bad throws and bad decisions. Nothing was done about that in the draft and there doesn’t seem to be a whole lot out there in free agency.

Maxwell has some intriguing traits and a lot of potential on special team- but three rookies and three second year players seems like an awful lot and a guy with those those traits and and instant impact potential on special teams seem like someone that would get sniped off the practice squad. If they like Schilling so much, why not take him here?

Levingston sounds like a lesser EJ Wilson. Better in the 7th than the 4th, but why not Guy?

What’s not to like about a guy like Smith in the 7th? Exactly what you hope for in the 7th.

Criticizing without saying what you’d do different is a little hollow, and sitting in the airport Thursday, I wrote out what I thought was a slightly optimistic but, not completely delusional mock for the Seahawks through 5 rounds and in reality it was mostly possible and I think I would have stuck with it if I was in charge on draft day, despite what reality proving that I would have reached on some picks… or would they not have been reaches because I was in this I hypothetical, I’m in charge and that’s where I valued them? I just confused myself. Anyhow.

25. Jimmy Smith (went #27 to Ravens)
57. Drake Nevis (#87 to Colts)
99. Joe Barksdale (#92 Raiders, would have been happy w/ James Brewer)
156. Lawrence Guy/Ian Williams (#233 to Packers and undrafted respectively, I think I would have really tempted by Chris Carter)
157. Stephen Schilling (#201 to Chargers)

I think the lockout during the draft hurt the Seahawks more than any other team. Last year (if I remember correctly) we made two deals involving players for draft picks. This year we were not allowed to.

I like going o-line twice in a row to start out, but maybe there were better options available. Going to guess Cable knows more about o-linemen than Kiper.

I think there were at least a couple picks that we reached for, especially Durham and Sherman. Wish we would have traded down more.

I personally don’t know enough about the talent the Seahawks drafted to say whether they were good picks or not. But I give them a B because I like that they showed some authority in their draft direction.

I can’t say how to build a “championship” or “consistent playoff” team. I’m pretty sure every franchise has a unique philosophy. But it seems like the Squawks want to build towards success with: a strong run game; stout run defense; and a speedy zone covering pass defense. I mean if you do that effectively, you can plug in Brad Johnson and win a championship.

I could be proven wrong.

It could also turn out well and my opinion could remain valid or even be corroborated. I’m not judging by results, so the results wouldn’t necessarily invalidate my view.

But it could. And hey, I hope so.

I don’t like it because the “proactive nonstop” approach to roster churn, is cool but doesn’t need to guide your draft. In the end, they incremented their draft prospect count to a negligible extent.

If they’re trying to maximize the search for steals through volume, I like that well enough, but they can do that with undrafted free agents and the chances one of them works out, and the “ceiling” that one work out could reach, remains about the same.

Context before ideology, that’s my view. I have ideologies, and they’re well defined and ambitious, but they’re not rigid. Ever come across a person who strongly, strongly believes in something that’s rather majority consensus, yet they seem to believe in it for the wrong reasons? So you might think they’re right on some matters but for the wrong reasons?

That’s how Schneider’s approach to this draft feels to me. Trading down, at some point, no matter what, seemed to be the chief objective. Which is generically a smart thing to seek, or at least consider.

I believe the ineffective attempts during these two offseasons to do some things that he sees as hallmarks of good, successful, and praised personnel men, led him to be more resolved to get a trade down.

It would kind of be like, oh I dunno, Pete Carroll firing an offensive coordinator for not running the ball, even though running the ball wasn’t working, because of his steadfast believe that finding a way to run the ball would ultimately yield success.

Correlation =/= causation and even correlations do not amount to a formula. You can’t win the draft, or win in the NFL, by trading down. It can be a powerful tool.

It feels like we chased ideology in spite of context, to the extent that it might have been detrimental.

But we did get a couple of good line prospects and marginally up the prospect count. Those, in a vacuum, are positives. I know Carroll and Schneider are capable of more, and I expected more of them.

but I wasn’t really in love with any of their options and a bigger mistake would have been taking a guy they don’t believe in. I would have minded a late round flyer, but there seems to be some UDFA’s out there too.

I’m all for building the rest of the team and then making a big move on the guy you want when the opportunity presents itself. Just hope that happens. Soon.

No one expects guys on the o-line to bust but it does happen. I like Carpenter quite a bit and his flexibility should help him find a place someone even if it isn’t where they originally hope it to be. But whos to say he’s not going to turn out like Alex Barron or Winston Justice? Moffitt to me is a pretty huge risk, he’s not kicking out and it seems like center is an unlikely destination for him just from an experience perspective. If he can’t pass protect or if it turns out he was a product of the Badgers system he could wash out quickly. For a mauler and road grader it’s discouraging that his strength is already being questioned.

After that is a list of guys that I mostly like quite a bit but again, question marks abound. KJ Wright has an odd build, disappointed at the combine and for a guy talked about for the Leo he hasn’t shown to be much of a pass rush threat in college. Kris Durham had some injury issues and little production to show for playing across from such a huge weapon in AJ Green. Sherman has only played corner for a year and Legree hasn’t been tested. Maxwell might be the safest guy after Carpenter because of what he can give as a special teamer but I’m not holding my breath on him becoming much of a corner.

I know I’ve been outspoken about this draft but it’s not because I hate these players or am against improving the offensive line. I just see very little margin of error with these guys. I like Carpenter but the reality is that most guys drafted just don’t work out, and they very rarely reach their peak upside. You have to expect these guys to fall somewhere in the middle, and to me thats Carpenter as a good, not great, right tackle or maybe guard, Moffitt as a liability in the passing game and maybe you get a nickle DB out of the three guys taken on the third day. Wright and Smith are special teams guys and Levingston’s upside is rotational player on the line, an upside I’d be surprised if he meets.

So I give it a C+. The attainable upside just isn’t that high and I don’t see how they avoided more risk than other teams, especially on the third day. If they end up getting a great haul out of this draft I’ll adjust my opinion on their scouting abilities, but as of now I don’t see them as particularly above average in that department and expect to see the same rate of failure as other teams see.

I like how they stuck to their philosophy and I like that they valued quantity of picks, as I think our depth is suspect in places. I like the focus on physical dirtbags and athletic freaks. Some needs were addressed thoroughly (OL, Secondary) and I feel much more comfortable with our linebacker depth. The trade was excellent.

I didn’t how the drafting philosophy was overly reliant on scheme, which likely produced a few reaches and low ceiling players. I’m concerned that we didn’t address some of our needs on offense and our plug and play DLine. I would’ve like a few more boom or bust rather than serviceable players, but that might just be me.

Overall, picked up some good players that fit, even if most of them did seem to be overvalued. This draft seems destined to be a great depth draft, with maybe a couple regulars and no stars. Again, I can’t get past the reliance on scheme.

Qualifying of perspective, I suppose.

I hope people don’t write off those of us who aren’t happy with this draft with the idea that we don’t because they were linemen and that’s not sexy. I love drafting linemen early and have been itching to do so to some extent for several years now. That’s not it.

I’ve generally been very positive of our drafts. Lawrence Jackson and Aaron Curry were kind of underwhelming for me. I didn’t know who Jackson was. But I gave the benefit of the doubt to Ruskell in each case. Curry was probably the closest to “down” on a pick I had ever really been before.

I was very happy with picking Okung, Thomas & Tate, Unger, Tapp, Josh Wilson, Kelly Jennings, Carlson, Spencer, Tatupu, Tubbs, Boulware, Trufant, Hamlin — I was thrilled in each case. Never knew anything of Mebane so was ambivalent there.

So as a fan I’ve never really felt this way. It’s not because linemen aren’t sexy, they are, and it’s not because I’m a downer, I’ve been generally supportive of this front office.

Most of the comments are complaining about not getting any DL/DE help in the draft and the lack of options in FA. Here is some food for thought…granted FA hasn’t started yet. PC and JS have always broken this part of the year into three sections the FA, the draft, and roster cuts. The draft has already happened. FA will start and roster cuts is a long way off.

Taking the draft into account. Heavy on the DL/DE should equal a larger pool of roster cuts in those positions. Also, being an ass backwards year (draft before FA), I would expect several DL/DE players getting released, since those position may have been filled in the draft (thinking Leroy Hill release when Curry got drafted). Creating a hopefully larger FA pool for which the Seahawk maybe able to chose from.

Also, the grades that a few posters are a some what flawed. Normally, FA would occur first, so the draft grades would reflect in the perceived holes left in the roster. This year we should grade the FA and roster cut pick ups to fill the gaps that the draft did not fill.

Basically, everyone should file for incompletes, since we are still waiting for FA to occur.

Prospect grades, not draft grades. I wonder how close to a real thing these are. They also must be genericized for the entire league so not well-tailored to any one team’s specific schemes and tendencies. I don’t have confidence in these grades, but they’re a rough indicator, I suppose.

Round 2:

we traded out. 8.0s and 7.8s were available. But it is conceivable that, were we not hellbent on trading down, we still would have decided on passing on these guys, and sought a trade partner.

Round 3:

Moffitt had a 5.1. A couple handful of 6s & 7s were still available, although it was light on OL. But the very next pick, Will Rackley, was graded a 6.8. That’s a dirty starter. A 5.1 is a decent upside, limited prospect that is a minor longshot to become a starter. Not that I agree with them. I like Moffitt and think he’ll be about a Floyd Womack without the injuries. I don’t think the gap between Rackley and Moffitt is that big, but I do think either would have been a fit.

But Moffitt they liked. That’s fine. They got their trade that they wanted, and they specifically targeted OL. Without that target, Jurrell Casey, Drake Nevis, Leonard Hankerson, Vincent Brown and Jerrel Jernigan were available. This was the DT & WR mid-round sweet spot. Which was some of the fan justification for passing earlier on D line and trading down.

Round 4:

KJ Wright is another 5.1 when 7s were available. Including Clint Boling, who I liked better than Moffitt or Rackley. Kris Durham is a 3.4 but pay no attention to that. He was another 5.

There are still reasons for you to like this draft. I don’t, but it’s cool if you do. But sticking to their board and going BPA even if it wasn’t sexy is not a valid reason. They took guys in the mold of what they like, and passed on those who don’t fit. That’s a whole other discussion. I can get behind the concept but I have issues with it.

This is about the worst nightmare of rigid system fit syndrome, though. Maybe another team would also be rigid and only take a look at the crown rib roast and throw out the rest of the cow.

But it’s like, we’ve committed to 7-bone chuck. 7-bone chuck is all we’re interested in, and if there’s any chuck where we’re drafting we’ll take it, but otherwise we choke on mignon and porterhouse. We spit that out.

I think they were locked in on Carpenter and Moffit with their first two picks and traded down as best they could to garner more picks, but without chancing losing out on those 2 guys. I had really hoped the Jets would trade up for Wilkerson, but they got him anyway with no trade needed. I was surprised that they took Carpenter with Carimi and Sherrod still on the board. Clearly they valued powerful run blocking and these were Cable’s picks.

If I was dissappointed in anything, it was taking 2 linebackers and 3 DB’s, with only one 7th round D lineman. Stanzi in the 4th would have made me feel a little better, but I trust they have a QB plan in FA. Maybe they also have a D-line plan in FA.