Xfinity now placing comment closed "articles" in our main page?
by Tyler Jorgensen on May 2, 2011 9:35 PM PDT
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This is weak sauce. Look, I get it, this is a sponsored blog, and money needs to come from somewhere. But I sure hope they aren't going to start clogging our front page with their random articles that don't even reference our team.
It's kind of crap, especially with how many articles are being pushed out on a given day. It's hard enough to not lose articles as they get 2nd paged, and now we're going to have to deal with that? Lame.
It is an "article" that doesn't allow comments, but doesn't include our team. SWEET!!!! That's what I wanted. MORE NATIONAL COVERAGE THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE MY TEAM. Because, you know, I forgot the national media doesn't really cover us in any detail. And I can't get that information anywhere else.
By the way, during the draft does anyone remember one of our picks coming up in which a network didn't go to a commercial, or talk about how great the Lions draft was, or how Atlanta made the big move to trade up, or New England did a great job of trading down?
So, Xfinity, thank you for putting commercial ads on our site therefor sponsoring it and helping to pay the authors. But FUCK YOU for your inability to simply include advertisements on the side that take up no post space or "sponsored posts" by OUR writers, and instead clogging our site up with your own shit. You just helped convince me that if you don't change things, I will, when possible, find one of your competitors when looking for television or internet providers.
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It appears we now have an ad on the site for PUA classes.
Good, I was really tired of having a spine.
Huh, doesn't show up, but looking in internet explorer i see what you mean
Thank you, adblock plus, because that’s retarded. It’s kinda like how in magazines and ad will try and make itself look like an article in the magazine. You bastards! It’s a shady annoying tactic.
Why does it matter if an article gets pushed to the second page?
Does it make articles harder to find and read? Honest question.
"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM
Author of The Seahawks Asylum: http://seahawksblog.wordpress.com
For me, it is not hard to see the new articles.
But I also changed my settings to show more on the front page.
I don’t like having to sift through the “fake” articles to get to the one’s I like. I am happy that they at least show the Xfinity articles in a different color, so can differentiate them from the regular blog articles.
I do not like that we cannot post opinions on the articles, though I assume they did it because we would react just like this. Oh well. X-Finity can’t win them all!
Makes sense.
But no offense to you: your answer doesn’t really address my question. Why does it matter if articles more quickly move to the ‘2nd page’?
"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM
Author of The Seahawks Asylum: http://seahawksblog.wordpress.com
Profile -> Edit Settings -> No. of front page posts to display
Change it to 15, 20, 25 or 50.
by Brian Floyd on May 3, 2011 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
SBNation should really up the standard amount of posts
Since they enforce that silly minimum-number-of-stories policy.
by Thomas Beekers on May 3, 2011 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't know you could do that. Thanks, Brian.
"When Pete first got here he said he wanted to establish the run and stop the run
Pete’s the architect and Cable’s the contractor." --Greetings from the Lord Humongous!
by Tyler Jorgensen on May 3, 2011 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, that's why.
"When Pete first got here he said he wanted to establish the run and stop the run
Pete’s the architect and Cable’s the contractor." --Greetings from the Lord Humongous!
by Tyler Jorgensen on May 3, 2011 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions
For clarity, articles don't get pushed down
It’s not a story, it’s an ad in the form of a story. I’ve been told it doesn’t count towards the frontpage story limit.
I also note it doesn’t work in Chrome, which is just hilarious.
by Thomas Beekers on May 3, 2011 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
What doesn't work in Chrome?
"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM
Author of The Seahawks Asylum: http://seahawksblog.wordpress.com
Oh wait, I left my AdBlock on
There it is.
Though I doubt I provide any money to SBN. These are all American ads and I’m European. None of these products are even available here.
by Thomas Beekers on May 3, 2011 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions
That's some effort to go through for piss beer. I don't live near either the Belgian or German border.
Then again, if SBNation throws enough ads at me I MIGHT JUST HAVE TO.
Xfinity and Sprint will still be unavailable to me though.
by Thomas Beekers on May 3, 2011 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I have chrome, but the ad obviously still pops up for me.
"When Pete first got here he said he wanted to establish the run and stop the run
Pete’s the architect and Cable’s the contractor." --Greetings from the Lord Humongous!
by Tyler Jorgensen on May 3, 2011 7:41 PM PDT up reply actions
And guys, we need to be a bit pragmatic about this.
The amount of resources it takes SBN to operate is staggering. There’s a fuckton of servers and equipment that keeps dozens upon dozens of high traffic blogs operating. There’s technical staff that needs to be paid. You may not like it, but advertising is paying those bills. There’s now writing talent needs to be paid. I mean, SBN Baseball hired Rob Neyer. Rob Freakin’ Neyer.
Ads are going to be here, and like any site or service, you’re going to run into ads you don’t necessarily like. I can think of other things to get up in arms about.
Pragmatism is one thing
SBNation policy’s are obtuse, and annoying. It needs to find a balance between ads that return on investment and annoying their own clientele away. For that, consumer feedback is important, which is why fanposts like this are important.
It is bloody annoying to have background ads that you can misclick on. It is a mistake to place the “latest headlines from SBNation from Sprint” block above the fanposts because people don’t come here to read other blogs. And yes, when you present advertisements as if they’re story and force them onto a blog, you are going too far.
I understand very well SBNation has server and maintenance cost. I do not understand why Field Gulls has to suffer extra advertisements because SBN Baseball hired some big name I never heard of and don’t care about (don’t give a damn about baseball).
And SBNation needs to understand this too. Ideally I would like them to understand that enforcing a 4-story-per-day policy does not foster quality blogs, but that’s another matter. First I’d like them to understand that you can take forced ads too far.
by Thomas Beekers on May 3, 2011 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
Question:
Would you rather deal with the existing advertising model (sponsored posts, display advertising, and backdrop ads) or pay for the blog on a monthly basis? Say: $5 per month.
"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM
Author of The Seahawks Asylum: http://seahawksblog.wordpress.com
Per-per-usage is not a realistic model
Not for blogs that are a dime a dozen like this one. I would’ve paid for the Field Gulls John Morgan ran but I can get this anywhere.
And you’re avoiding my point. Advertising models are always a balancing act between getting your sponsors enough traffic and not annoying your readers away. SBNation is careening off the edge of annoying the hell out of users.
by Thomas Beekers on May 3, 2011 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Do you complain this much in the other 9 blogs you read?
"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM
Author of The Seahawks Asylum: http://seahawksblog.wordpress.com
Ignore this. Heat of the moment comment.
I just bristle when I see flippant comments like that directed square at the writers of this blog.
"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM
Author of The Seahawks Asylum: http://seahawksblog.wordpress.com
Nah. Just Bucs Nation (because I enjoy riling up Sander) and MTD (because Dove does silly things at times)
I don’t see anything flippant. There’re a lot of quality Seahawks blogs out there with about the level of analysis/content that Field Gulls offers. Even if that was a criticism of anyone rather than a compliment to everyone (I’ve seen the Buccaneers’ level of blogs and beat writers, for instance, and they don’t match up), which it’s not, comments are as appropriate a place for compliments as they are for criticisms. How else do blogs grow and improve? Same thing for SBNation as a whole. If there’s no feedback to their policies, they can only analyse user numbers, and that’s imperfect.
by Thomas Beekers on May 3, 2011 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Well I understand your issue there
but for a lot of people, SBN has become a go-to location for all sorts of sports. I’ve got FG, Lookout Landing, Sounder at Heart, a brilliant general baseball blog, Beyond the Boxscore, and the general soccer blog on my multiple-times daily visited sports blogs/sites. I can’t get the quality of content I get at many of these locations anywhere else.
And I'd agree that the ads are super annoying.
"Pass rushers enter the world of Okung but never leave." - JM
Author of The Seahawks Asylum: http://seahawksblog.wordpress.com
Also I want to be extra-super clear on this
If SBNation is using the hiring of Rob Neyer to justify intrusive ads blog-wide then words can not express how wrong they are. If SBN Baseball wants to make a splashy hire, SBN Baseball should pay for it. It is an ass-backwards financial model that has all blogs pay for investment in one blog.
by Thomas Beekers on May 3, 2011 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
For what it's worth
I love the "latest headlines from SBNation from Sprint" box. I use it all the time.
That’s why I’m on the Seahawks blog reading this FanPost in the first place. (I came here for the Janoris Jenkins story, and saw this.)
We don't need 8 in the box. We have 52 in the box.
I never argued against the box
I argued against putting it atop fanposts, which SBN did…a few weeks ago I think? I know it’s multi-blog nature is a big deal to SBN, but they’re forgetting that the community is the lifeblood of any blog here. You should never promote other blogs’ stories over the community’s fanposts, it’s inherently a bad idea, especially on blogs with high-quality fanposts like this one.
by Thomas Beekers on May 3, 2011 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I honestly am not bothered one lick by the current ad setup they have.
And I’d like to point out SBN isn’t paying me.
Sure
And even if Danny defends it I wouldn’t mind. He’s getting paid but he doesn’t create the ad policies. The criticism of policies is all aimed at the higher-ups, not anyone on FG.
Pass it on willya? :P
by Thomas Beekers on May 3, 2011 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions
The way I see it is
If SBNation is free to put up ads on our frontpage, we are free to bitch about it.
by CurryInAHurry59 on May 3, 2011 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions 5 recs
I switched to Verizon Fios
Start thinking of other ways to stick it to the man, because the alternatives suck.
Well I live in Canada
So no Xfinity and Sprint sucks balls here. Also I don’t drink so all the ads can suck it.
by alexander_37 on May 8, 2011 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
I guess my primary complaint is that they masked the ad in the form of an article.
I read it, went to complain that it was on our blog but league wide (yet didn’t even MENTION the Hawks) and found comments unavailable.
I would RATHER just have an ad at the top that is just that, an ad, than a fake article that sticky’s to the top of the page.
That being said, I still appreciate SB Post comment to your Facebook wallNation, and I get that something needs to go up there, but don’t waste my time with “fake” articles. Put an ad up and be done with it, or let us have our writers do a "sponsored posting. We’re caught in the middle here.
Oh also, speed up your service so my guide or favorites freaking pop up when I hit the button on the remote instead of 5 seconds later. I’m as mad about that as the “article” in general.
"When Pete first got here he said he wanted to establish the run and stop the run
Pete’s the architect and Cable’s the contractor." --Greetings from the Lord Humongous!
Uhm, why does it say, "A place to bury strangers" at the end of my post in a small font?
"When Pete first got here he said he wanted to establish the run and stop the run
Pete’s the architect and Cable’s the contractor." --Greetings from the Lord Humongous!
It did that to my fanposts too
I, too, am curious
by Thomas Beekers on May 3, 2011 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions
It's supposed to be a place where the site authors can put a disclaimer about the thoughts contained within do not necessarily represent the thoughts of SBN yadda yadda yadda
John changed it to a place to bury strangers long back.
Now that I know, I kind of like it.
"When Pete first got here he said he wanted to establish the run and stop the run
Pete’s the architect and Cable’s the contractor." --Greetings from the Lord Humongous!
by Tyler Jorgensen on May 4, 2011 1:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Hey BETA MALES
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I LOVE the new ads on this site!!!
by DetectiveM on May 4, 2011 12:50 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
you actually noticed too!
Yeah I was pretty pissed when they did that crap on Draft Day. Seattle got screwed by the talking heads and their sponsers. There were a couple of times when the Seahawks picks weren’t even covered on TV due to a convienent Commercial break or some idiot slobbering all over some other teams pick. Pa-fucking-thetic!
learn to ignore ads?
Wouldn’t you think that beening inundated with so internet ads that you would simply tune them out by now? Maybe I’m just not seeing the ads b/c i’m not usine internet explorer, but I feel like any internet ad now a days I can completely ignore without wasting any energy. well, I guess the power of advertising has worked – it got us to talk about xfinity even more than I would like…i mean come on, call a spade a spade – IT’S STILL FUCKING COMCAST.
I'm using Chrome.
The ad is gone now too. It showed up all across the SBNation pro football sites, then was gone again in a few days. Like Kaiser Soze.
But the point was it was set up like an article. If it was just an obtuse ad, I wouldn’t have been so displeased, quite honestly.
"When Pete first got here he said he wanted to establish the run and stop the run
Pete’s the architect and Cable’s the contractor." --Greetings from the Lord Humongous!
by Tyler Jorgensen on May 9, 2011 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions
gotcha
gotcha, whiskey. I didn’t see the ad, so I can’t really say much to it. but i guess you’re saying it was set up as if danny or yourself had written it?
i am using chrome as well.
Yeah, that's exactly it.
It was one of those ads like you see in magazines that are set up to be like an article in the magazine. And it was an article summarizing the results of the draft, giving credit to the typical buzz teams this year, Detroit, Cleveland, the Pats… that sort of thing.
And when I read it (the entire thing) I went to comment and complain that we weren’t even covered at all (despite the article being called something like “The Full NFL Draft Review”— and that’s when I realized the comments were closed.
"When Pete first got here he said he wanted to establish the run and stop the run
Pete’s the architect and Cable’s the contractor." --Greetings from the Lord Humongous!
by Tyler Jorgensen on May 10, 2011 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions
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