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On the Airwaves: Mike Teel with John Clayton - On the UFL and the Idea of an NFL Farm System

I brought this up last week a little bit just because Mike Teel still is a favorite among Seahawks fans. Mike was on John Clayton's radio show last Saturday and it really was a great interview, one I'd recommend listening to in full. 

They touch on a lot of things, from Teel's current situation in the UFL, how Matt Hasselbeck helped to mentor him when he was in Seattle, to learning under Tom Brady in New England. Teel was recently drafted by the Las Vegas Locomotives of the UFL and will be competing for a job there, so keep your eye on that. 

The thing I actually took away from this interview the most were a few comments by Clayton. John brought up a lot of good points about the UFL, but most importantly, how it's a great avenue for players to develop their skills if they've washed out of the NFL. The thing about the NFL is that if you get stuck at the bottom of the depth chart it's very easy to get lost in the shuffle. In Teel's case, he'd been buried at third on the chart behind Hasselbeck and Brady for his first three seasons and never really had a chance to showcase what he can do on an everyday basis. Furthermore, he's been pretty unable to develop his skills much because the fact of the matter is that 3rd string guys don't get many reps. 

What Clayton alluded to is something that is really interesting to me. Why not make the UFL a type of minor league system of the NFL where players can develop their skills, get a lot of playing time and not just sit at the bottom of the depth chart on each team? Right now, each team gets 8 players on their practice squad during the regular season. Eight. Why not field an entire farm team where you can develop your players and feed the NFL teams if injuries happen much like in Major League Baseball? It's not like fans overdose football. It's the most insanely popular sport in the nation and I know for a fact that if the Seahawks fielded a 'minor league' UFL team, that games would sell out every week. If team's ownership and administration were in charge of the drafting of those teams players as well it would make the draft that much more exciting and more players would get a chance to fulfill their dreams of a professional career playing football. 

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Obviously this is putting the cart in front of the horse during a lockout, but I have no doubt that Football will be back. The NFL is a league that works. Period. People want to watch the game. If you had a minor league program,- that's not played with weird rules in Canada or across the pond in Europe-, I think people would sit up and notice. The fact is that the supply of good football players is higher than the demand. Sure, the difference between a 1st rounder and a sixth rounder is huge. But, I'd submit that once you get to the 6th and 7th rounds, not much separates the guys that land on teams and the guys that go undrafted. I'm rambling but let me know what you guys think. Would you go watch, say, the Tacoma Seagulls? I know I would, especially if these guys were considered 'prospects' for the Seahawks. Damn right I would go watch. 

Anyway, here's the Teel interview, check it out.

More audio at MyNorthwest.com

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Kinda like the old NFL Europe?

It’s surprising how many decent players that are around who went through the NFL-E teams.

It’s a decent idea, and one I’ve thought about; but I doubt the NFL would be happy to ‘legitimise’ the UFL,

by Mickapeckalin on May 28, 2011 7:43 PM PDT reply actions  

I think NFL E didn't really catch on here because it was in Europe.

If they made their own NFL E but played in the US I think it might succeed.

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by Danny Kelly on May 28, 2011 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I heard this when the UFL was just getting off the ground

And think it’s a great idea. I would love it, especially if the games were cheap at The Clink on Fridays.

by DJ C-Raig on May 28, 2011 7:49 PM PDT reply actions  

Except, since it's the UFL, our name would be something lame...

Like the Tacoma Seamen. Also, don’t be surprised if the team is in Portland. It was one of the cities originally considered, and is still being talked about.

by DJ C-Raig on May 28, 2011 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

HAHAHA god that would be awesome/awful.

The Tacoma Seawards. Get it?

I wouldn’t even care if it were in Portland – the idea that it was affiliated with the Hawks or feeding the Hawks would make it sweet.

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by Danny Kelly on May 28, 2011 7:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I miss NFL Europa

Hamburg Sea Devils won the last ever Galaxy cup. Just sayin’, there’s gotta be some symbolism there.

"There's a lot that people don't know. Like our names." - Matt Hasselbeck

by HowieC on May 28, 2011 8:47 PM PDT reply actions  

I suppose the owners probably just don't want to take on added expense and responsibility

I love the idea of every NFL team fielding a minor team, like you say it’d give a lot of excellent footballers a much better chance of eventually stepping up. And I would definitely watch the Seamen at every opportunity (I’ll cross that off my list of things I never thought I’d say). However, with the level of tight-fistedness the owners are showing it’d probably require buying out the UFL and then paying wages to another 53 people, along with having to hire more coaches, renting out training facilities etc. Perhaps they just don’t see the financial gain in it?

by ciarannh on May 29, 2011 4:34 AM PDT reply actions  

I don't think teams want to give up their practice squad guys either

They fill an important role at practice, hence the name. Once the season gets going, there are too many guys hurt and dinged up to field an effective scout team. Teams need a scout team and need to rest their starters at the same time.

by stufr on May 29, 2011 4:39 AM PDT reply actions  

I'm always happy to see guys who don't quite catch on in the NFL show their goods somewhere else

It might be unrealistic to set up that kind of system, though. Fielding an extra 32 teams, complete with scheduling, stadium rights, practice facilities, coaching staffs, and so on, basically fielding an entirely new league, would be a monumental undertaking. More than likely, they would have to be an independent league with separate ownership, since the NFL owners are unlikely to want to support an extra, say, 30-40% increase in player salaries and expenses.

In that kind of system, it might be that the NFL simply adds four or five extra rounds to the draft, with choices after a certain point going to the farm team rather than the main one. But that might lead to farm teams having a hodgepodge of players that don’t necessarily fit to be a complete team. More likely, the farm teams would have a kind of supplemental draft with four or five rounds based on their own league’s success held after the NFL’s draft. An interesting question there would be if an NFL team’s 7th round pick would be obligated to both the NFL and farm teams? If such a player gets cut in the preseason, does the farm team still have his rights before he becomes a free agent? All interesting ideas.

Regardless, if we had the chance to watch the Tacoma Seagulls at Qwest Field (Cheney Stadium’s probably a bit small) six or seven times a year, starting in the spring maybe a few weeks after the Super Bowl, for maybe $20-30 a ticket, I’d be all over it. There’s definitely room for more football a few extra months in the year.

by Clendy on May 29, 2011 8:04 AM PDT reply actions  

Seamen...

Half time shows would feature The Village People.

If a player was cut, would he be discharged?

No one with the last name of Stains could ever play for that team.

You could have an Eric Cartman look-alike contest.

Would the team enter the field through the fallopian tube?

Would the training staff be known as the “fluffers”?

The guys that hand out water would be called “spritzers”.

… Too. Many. Jokes.

Sorry, I couldn’t resist.

by neurocell on May 30, 2011 6:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

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