Pete Carroll Kicking Tires for 2011 - WR Dwayne Jarrett
Dwayne Jarrett, up until last August coming into Panther's training camp, was competing to be the team's number two receiver behind Pro Bowler Steve Smith. He had made big strides during the offseason and was poised to finally live up to his potential as a 2nd round draft choice for the Panthers. That is, until he got his second DUI in three years and was released. Jarrett, who was a two-time First Team All American and had a career 219 catches and school record 41 TDs in three seasons at USC, never found that success in the pros, and has ultimately washed out of the NFL.
He stayed on his couch most of last year until he was given a call by Pete Carroll and came in for a tryout in late November when the Hawks were experiencing injuries at receiver (now-retired Bobby Engram was invited too). He wasn't signed at that time, but I still find myself wondering if Pete told him to get his crap together, get in shape, lift hard, and be ready for next year's camp.
Jarrett's specialty in college was winning jump balls and possessing good body control for a WR of his size. Why did he fail so badly in the NFL? One, he was a young receiver in a run-first offense with a inconsistent quarterback. Two, he was typically the 3rd or 4th option in that offense, so opportunities didn't come often. Three, he had questionable work ethic, did not study/learn the playbook enough and/or reportedly rubbed players and coaches wrong with a lazy attitude in practice. Finally, he found trouble with the law and was released.
I'm of course ignoring the idea that maybe he just can't play at the NFL level, but according to a lot of the stuff I've read that's not necessarily the case - I've seen several reporters close to the Panthers and many fans fuming in forums arguing that he shows solid on-field skills, starting practicing well and was showing a lot of promise as recently as this last preseason - but ran out of chances with the front office because of his off-field issues. I'm sure his immaturity and cockiness were factored into the decision to drop him from the Panthers, but it seems his trouble with the law (2 DUIs) was the main driving force behind his dismissal. Because of this, rather than a flat-out lack of talent, I can see a case for the Hawks giving this guy another tryout this offseason.
By most accounts, analysts stated that Jarrett would have served himself better by staying in school another year to refine his skills and gain maturity. He also put in a sub-par 40 yard dash time (4.62) that hurt his draft stock (originally he was projected as a first rounder, ended up 2nd round). His short shuttle time was 4.2 and any time you have that level of disparity between forty time and short shuttle you're looking at a guy whose strength is quickness over straight line speed.
Here is how CBSSports described his skills coming into the 2007 draft:
"Positives:
Has long arms and legs with a frame that can carry at least another 10 pounds of bulk ... Plays with only adequate quickness, but shows very good ball concentration and aggressiveness going after the ball ... Has very good timing and leaping ability to get to the ball at its high point ... Needs to add more bulk and upper body power to run through the press, but once he gets into his route, he is able to build his acceleration nicely ... Has quick hands and the ability to uncover working underneath ...
Very consistent extending for the ball and builds to top acceleration nicely if he is able to beat the press ... Has only adequate timed speed, but does a fine job of tracking the ball in flight and has outstanding ball adjustment skills ... Uses his tall frame to create mismatches vs. the smaller defenders competing for the jump balls and is never affected by traffic in his quest to get under the pass ...
Not the fastest you will find on linear routes, but shows good cutting agility to separate after the catch ... It is rare to see Jarrett glide out of his breaks like most bigger receivers tend to do ... With Jarrett's low pad level and ability to open his hips, he is very effective at getting in and out of his breaks without having to throttle down ... Does a good job going deep and is alert to pocket pressure, making a conscious effort to come back for the ball. Quite effective at keeping his feet in bounds along the sidelines ...
Excels at making the tough catch inside the red zone, especially on corner and fade routes ... Might not be able to overpower a defender going through the seams, but he has the flexibility to turn to the off-target balls and catch outside his frame ... Finds the path of the ball quickly to settle underneath it, compensating for a lack of timed speed ... The thing you see on film is his ability to reach and snatch the ball over a defender's head ... Has only adequate speed and acceleration, but he has the loose hips to avoid tackles and maintain balance through his running stride ...
Good at taking a shallow crossing pass into big yardage when he makes a conscious effort to escape rather than try to run over the defender ... Uses his hands well to shade, mirror and control edge rushers on contact and won't hesitate to get physical ... Good position blocker in attempts to seal off and takes good angles to deliver a solid cut block vs. second level defenders.
Negatives:
Lacks the timed speed to get down field in a hurry, but has the body control and ability to catch outside his frame to adjust and compete for the ball in flight ... Has adequate ability to retain plays, but does need several reps ... Alert to coverages, but will get a little sloppy and run right into spots at times ...
Consistently works back to the ball and while he can adjust on the move, he is not going to be the type who can handle multiple position assignments ... Was almost ruled ineligible in June for violating NCAA rules by not paying enough rent for the apartment he shared with former Trojans quarterback Matt Leinart ... There is a lot of the brash Keyshawn Johnson and the flippant Mike Williams attitude in this kid ...
Plays hard until the whistle, but will look lackadaisical at times and goes through the motions in practice and needs some structure there ... While he will compete for the ball in a crowd, he will struggle vs. strong press coverage and gets frustrated at times when he can't separate from the speedier cornerbacks ... Lacks the overall strength to defeat a strong jam and doesn't demonstrate the blazing speed or suddenness getting into his routes ... Looks sluggish with his burst off the snap and relies more on his size mismatches than speed to get under the ball ... A long strider rather than a receiver who takes short, quick steps ... When he tries to lower his shoulder to run over a defensive back, that is when he gets into trouble, as he doesn't have the brute strength to break tackles.
Compares To:
KEYSHAWN JOHNSON-Carolina ... While his work ethic and lack of speed remind some of Detroit's Mike Williams, Jarrett's ability on fade and corner routes and timing on his leaps for the jump ball rival that of another former USC receiver. Jarrett is much better at keeping his feet in bounds than Johnson, and he has some of the more natural hands you will find out there. However, he needs to show that he is maturing off the field and must improve his overall strength and hand usage, as he will struggle vs. physical press coverage."
Here are the things that stick out to me: great in the red-zone and going up for jump balls, smooth in and out of his cuts, will go up in traffic and exploit his size against smaller defenders. Good at coming back to the ball, and an ability to uncover underneath. His issues center on his lack of maturity and work ethic - they compare him to Mike Williams - obviously because they're both tall, successful USC WRs, but also because they both had through-the-roof potential and ceiling, but lack(ed) the ethic and maturity to follow through with that talent. Well, we've all seen what Mike Williams was able to do with his career with a dose of reality, some hard work, and a shot from Pete Carroll.
Similar to Mike Williams, Jarrett isn't going to be an outside deep threat. He lacks the quickness off the line for this, but his effectiveness lies in other areas. Take the other comparison to Keyshawn Johnson as an example - Johnson was considered one of the better possession receivers of his time by catching everything and using his length to fend off corners or defenders. To say that Keyshawn was excited when the Panthers drafted Jarrett is an understatement. He had plans to mentor the rookie but was dropped before he got that chance.
I am not in the Hawks' front office and I wasn't able to see the workout that he put in last November. It's probable they were just desperate because of the injury situation at the time. I'm not going to be surprised though if he is invited to camp this year to try and make the team. I just take a look at a guy that was able to score 41 TDs in 3 years playing in the Pete Carroll system, and I have to wonder if Carroll can do for Jarrett what he did for Williams. That is, if Jarrett is committed to getting back into the NFL. With a year at home, thinking about his future, perhaps Jarrett has matured and is ready to do what's necessary to play at the NFL level. Right before he was cut by the Panthers, he was quoted as saying:
"I don't think I understood what it was going to take. It's not that I didn't want to work hard. I just didn't understand what it took in the NFL - I really didn't get it. Things were happening so fast and I didn't have down the mental part of it. It robbed my aggressiveness."
He's got potential to be a possession style guy. People hate that term but I keep coming back to it. The stereotype is a guy that's not as fast but catches everything thrown his way. He keeps the chains moving. Mike Williams has done this on the outside and Brandon Stokley was the guy in the slot doing this for that Hawks in 2010. I guess it would be easy to argue that Jarrett doesn't really fit on this team - you don't need two Mike Williams. First, Jarrett would cost nothing. Second, I would argue that it doesn't hurt to have two of your best receiver. Why did Ruvell Martin have a roster spot, if not as depth behind BMW?
It's actually an decent comparison: Martin ran a 4.6 coming out of Saginaw Valley State. He's 6'4, 220. He does a decent job with what he's asked to do and had good rapport with Whitehurst. Why not bring Jarrett in to compete with him? While I like Martin as solid depth, I'd argue Jarrett has an edge in the upside department if he could get his head screwed on straight. He's got the 'unteachables' - body control for a player his size, excellent timing on jump balls, innate ability to keep his feet inbounds, and soft hands to catch difficult passes. There are good reasons he dropped out of the NFL - but that doesn't mean he doesn't have potential if put in the right system and gets his act together. Quite often, it takes wide receivers several years to transfer their skills to the NFL level, and perhaps Jarrett is a classic case of that.
According to this article by Charles Robinson of Yahoo Sports, Jarrett came into camp last preseason a changed player. Even John Fox commented early that "He's better - the players see it and I see it. We haven't played a game in six months, but he's way further ahead right now than he was this time last year."
He was seemingly ready to make the jump to the next level but was derailed immediately by his 2nd DUI. While those DUIs are obviously a concern, I don't believe it's reason enough to completely write off a 25 year old player with the skillset Jarrett possesses. Vincent Jackson got DUIs and we still tried to bring him on. Jarrett's DUI trial is set for July, and if he's acquitted, he'll be looking for a place to land. "I still believe I can make an NFL team. I haven't given up on that yet," he said. "This lockout is putting everything on hold -- for everybody. But we'll see."
WR may not be the position of greatest need for the Hawks but why not take a flier on a guy like Jarrett? He'd come cheap, could provide depth at the position, and the potential upside could be huge. Talent doesn't just disappear - we saw that with Mike Williams. Sometimes effort and fire is the difference between an NFL success or failure.
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How many tall, rangy, slow-ish outside guys do the Hawks need?
With the drafting of Durham, I’d be surprised to see Jarrett back.
An entire receiving corps of BMWs would be AWESOME.
You’d only gain like 8 yards a pass but you’d get it every single time. Just have the QB throw the ball up in the air where those tiny CBs can’t get to it and it’s a completion every down!
by Johnny Slick on May 29, 2011 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions
Except the BMW at the end of the season
I mean the lazy one who ran patterns half speed. I still never heard a reason for that? I missed all the games BMW played well statistic wise but I am hoping the games I saw at the end of the season that he played poorly, the reason was an injury or something. The guy has ZERO separation speed so he MUST work harder and remember how close he came to completely washing out of the league. Am I the only one who saw BMW run routes at like half speed?
Respect goes a long way....
Durham is a complement to Williams, and aside from the fact he's also tall, they're not alike.
My point was to have Jarrett as a backup guy for if/when Williams gets hurt. Sort of like what Ruvell Martin was last year. I just think Jarrett has more upside than Martin.
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by Danny Kelly on May 29, 2011 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmm. How would you say that BMW and Durham are different?
I would have thought – based on the little game footage I saw of Durham – that he was basically an outside “possession” guy… which does fit BMW to a T. I admit that I don’t really know how much there might be a difference between the two outside positions at WR in Bevell’s offense.
Agreed that Jarrett has more upside than Martin, though I did like the way the latter came in and played.
"Possession" receivers are labeled as such because they're slow, typically.
MIke WIlliams is a possession receiver in my opinion – not a deep threat mostly because he lacks high-end speed. Instead he’s used on intermediate routes for the most part, using his size and physicality against smaller receivers to make a catch, move the chains and maintain possession of the ball, hence, “possession” receiver.
My impression of Durham is that he was NOT drafted for that role. He’s like Mike in that he’s 6’5 but I see him as a guy to put opposite Williams and used to stretch the field vertically with his speed (4.43 40). If he can get behind the defense this will open up things underneath for Williams and the slot guys while Durham has the attention of a safety and/or corner in the deep part of the field.
It’s pretty pointless to argue about it before he’s had any snaps but just in the general sense a guy you label as a possession receiver is typically slower but catches everything. Not always, but that’s the stereotype. I think Durham was picked to complement Williams by being a speed threat to stretch the field while opening up things underneath for Mike.
Maybe I’m wrong, but like you said, how many slow, rangy outside guys do the Hawks need? I don’t think they’re not using their 4th round pick on a guy to back up Mike WIlliams.
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Yeesh, need to proofread
that last sentence should read " I don’t think they’re using their 4th round pick on a guy to back up Mike WIlliams."
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In much the same way QBs are categorized as a good fit for WCO out of college
because they don’t have the strongest arms, “possession receiver” is a euphemism for slow(er).
I'm gonna go calm submissive on your ass.
No, that's true. Based on what you say, it seems like they're projecting him as a starting WR.
There is a perceived void opposite BMW… people seem to want to relegate Obo to backup status.
OT a little, one thing I never understood is how a WR on one side is supposed to be the “deep” guy that opens up things for the other WR. I can understand how a flanker (for example) can run go routes or posts that force the safety on that side to cover deep, thus allowing room underneath… but unless the split end runs a very quick in or shallow post, how does that have any effect? There’s still another safety on the SE’s side of the field. Certainly it helps open up space for the tight end.
I think it depends a lot on the defense
If the d is in a cover 1 or cover 3 there’s going to be only one safety playing centerfield and he’ll have to choose a side to jump on – a qb could stare down Durham running a seam or post corner or whatever and then the middle of the field or the whole other side is pretty opened up. We actually saw Earl Thomas get burned a few times in situations like this.
I think that could be one example- but yeah it depends on the coverage.
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by Danny Kelly on May 29, 2011 6:47 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Admittedly, I haven't seen a ton on Durham either.
But this suggests he’s much more than simply a possession receiver (as limited as these highlights are).
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Some very big plays in there, no question.
I don’t see him straight-up “beating” a corner on very many routes, however. There’s a whole lot of excellent scheming by the Georgia OC, for sure, and all manner of effective playaction (opposing safeties seem to bite on Durham’s underneath stuff constantly).
That said, how many WR’s get past corners without a pump fake, or playaction? Not many, I guess.
Perhaps and I certainly don't disagree.
But he shows the ability to stretch the field which one wouldn’t associate with a so defined “possession receiver”.
And you’re absolutely right, there aren’t many that get behind the secondary on their own. Would love to see one in a Seahawk uniform at some point, however. lol
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There is a huge, huge reason why we haven't seen a guy be able to do that.
We didn’t have a quarterback who could get the ball to him in the last 3-4 years. Really, Deion Branch was that kind of guy. Probably Nate Burleson as well. By and large, though, the FO has said “okay, we have a QB who is pretty accurate and solid but can only throw short to medium routes. Let’s get receivers to fit him”. I don’t really want to turn everything into a Hasselbash – no, really, I don’t – but it’s a fair point to be made that Hasselbeck, even when he was at the top of his game, could do a lot more with possession-y types and YAC types than he could with stretch-the-field types.
by Johnny Slick on May 29, 2011 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I see Branch as a "YAC type" personified (and Burleson to a lesser extent, too).
That doesn’t devalue the argument that Hasselbeck doesn’t have a deep ball arm. But then, neither is the WCO designed to feature that, which he was brought in by Holmgren to operate.
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Oh sure, absolutely.
And there are a ton of guys with great arms who weren’t half the player Hasselbeck was in his prime. I’d much rather have Matt H. as the main guy in 2005 than a Jeff George or a Kerry Collins, arm strength or no arm strength. And even more recently, Hasselbeck has been extremely canny and has done a lot to turn a very troubled offense (not to mention his own growing deficiencies) into something which could at least pass NFL muster. I’m just saying that we haven’t had speed guys because of the QB which, yeah, was in turn because of the game plan, sure.
by Johnny Slick on May 29, 2011 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Durham is actually kinda fast you know
I can’t remember the exact time he ran at his pro-day but I know it wasn’t “slowish”
After what Carroll did with Mike Williams
He can whiff on ten Jarretts if he likes.
Or duplicate the Williams Experience, that works too.
by fiftyone on May 29, 2011 12:15 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
I'm of the belief Williams did all the heavy lifting himself.
All the work and re-dedication Williams devoted to himself and game is why he was able to take advantage of another opportunity. That is, Carroll may have let him in, but it’s up to the player (Lendale as a counter point). If Carroll didn’t bring him in, someone would have and he very likely would have performed well.
Carroll didn’t create the “Williams Experience”, IMO. Williams did.
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I think you are exactly right.
If PC invites Jarrett to camp, it will be all about how Jarrett works, competes, and carries himself. PC didn’t do a thing for BMW other than give him a chance.
As Jarrett says himself, he and BMW are nothing alike – different skill set – and if Jarrett is given a chance, and makes something of it, and sticks, you get another talented player for nothing (as opposed to the 2nd round pick the Panthers used).
The advantage PC brings is his willingness to give guys another chance (if he wants to) and genuinely let them compete for the position. Now some players that look good (like Mays, for instance) PC knows something we don’t, and he passed. Despite his history with Jarrett (or because of it) he may pass again. Regardless, we can count on PC to make a wise decision, both to bring him in (or not) and to keep him (or not).
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT DON HUTSON WAS A SPEED DEMON
FOR HIS TIME
by Johnny Slick on May 29, 2011 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions
The Alabama Antelope
Most beautiful stride in NFL history. That guy looked like he was gliding down field. White guys just can’t run like that anymore.
by CMoney87 on May 29, 2011 11:22 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Way before my time.
I am thinking of the WR that broke Steve Largent’s all time record for receptions.
I think this is true, but I also think it's missing the point a little bit.
BMW wasn’t the only guy PC took a chance on last year. He also reached out and got Charlie Whitehurst, LenDale White, Chris Baker, Daryl Tapp (well, okay, Tapp was re-signed from the previous regime), Sean Morey, Reggie Williams (who I really, really hoped would work out – sadly, it did not), DeAngelo Willingham, Patrick McDonald (as a long-snapper, but still… he was signed in January of 2010 and then released without even getting to training camp), Mike Reilly, Chris Duvalt (another guy released after a week on the roster), Isiah Stanback, Chester Pitts, Mansfield Wrotto, and Brandon Jones all before the season started. And that’s not even including guys who had been on the roster before but who were tried out and then cut, like TJ Houszmanzadeh, Mike Teel, and Julius Jones.
There were a lot of misses in there but that was PC’s philosophy. If you give 20 guys a shot who each individually only have a 5% chance of being a quality NFL player, you still have a better than even chance that one guy out of that 20 will make it. Yes, BMW made BMW. Pete Carroll made BMW happen by allowing him to compete for a job here, which he did in turn not even so much because he saw something in BMW that nobody else did but that he approached roster management with a philosophy that apparently other head coaches do not bring to the game (at least my understanding is that everyone else seems to have a short list of “their guys” and if you’re not on that list the odds are against you getting on it).
by Johnny Slick on May 29, 2011 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions
You think NFL players
could afford a taxi.
I don't hate many things, but i do hate Boise State.
by spokanistan22yuh on May 29, 2011 10:21 PM PDT reply actions
Lienart throwing to Jarrett and Williams
Can we please trade for Bush? They could be the best college team in the Pros!
But seriously, does anyone know why the super stars of SC have been so troubled in the NFL while the supporting cast has done decent? Is it because they had their best years in college or the PC system in college isn’t as close to NFL as people think and start these guys before they are ready? Is it because of some sense of entitlement?
The idea of that team reuniting in the pros and winning a super bowl under Carrol
would have to cement them as the greatest college team ever assembled.
Just a thought.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
John and Pete,,
,,,brought in 284 players in 2010. It’s been said they won’t be going that high in 11’, duh! The CBA kinda buzz kills the “300” mojo but even if it’s in the 150 transaction range a guy like Jarrett could get a Reggie Williams shot.
If the catch diameter is like 12 feet, who needs an accurate Qb?
,,,a need for speed>>>>

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