Two Tight End Sets in the Seahawks Offense
I've talked a little bit here about the H-back situation with the Hawks and by extension what the Seahawks plan to do in two and even three tight end sets in 2011. It remains to be seen how different the Hawks offense will be from the one Jeremy Bates captained last season, but if we believe Pete Carroll, then it will not stray much. That means we're going to continue to see tight end heavy sets, H-backs lining up in the backfield, tight ends lining up on the wing and motioning in, and tight ends lined up in-line and motioning out.
If you take a look at some of the personnel groupings from 2010, especially late in the year, you see how prevalent the use of two tight ends was. Using Brian McIntyre's excellent and praiseworthy formation tracking from 2010, I found that in the win versus New Orleans in the Wild Card game, the Hawks used two tight ends 24 out of 61 plays, or 39% of their offensive plays. In Week 16 against the Rams, two TE sets were used in 36% of snaps (26/71), including five snaps with three tight ends. Week 15, two or more TEs were used 30 percent of the time. In Week 14 against Atlanta, the Hawks used two or more TEs in a whopping 50% of their snaps (28/56) and used three TEs five times. You see what I'm getting at.
One of the main issues the Seahawks had in their playoff loss against Chicago was that John Carlson and Cameron Morrah were injured in-game, and with Chris Baker and Anthony McCoy already out with injuries, the Seahawks offensive playsheet was whittled down to just one small corner. The Hawks ran zero two-tight end sets and were very limited in their run game because of this factor. Said Matt Hasselbeck at the time:
"We had some creative stuff [in the plan] like we had last week with John Carlson. (Carlson scored two TDs the week prior against New Orleans) Because of Julius Peppers and because of their blitz, we are a heavy leave-the-tight-end-in and leave-the-running-back-in-to-block kind of team. Obviously, in our run game, short yardage, goal line, all of those situations, we no longer had any of those."
So as you can see, the use of tight end heavy packages is a big part of the Seahawks' offense and figures to be in 2011 as well. With that in mind, I wanted to point you to a really great article over at the Turf Show Times, the Rams' SB Nation blog, about two TE sets and why they're effective; they point to their recent draftee Lance Kendricks as the object. Per that article:
"The biggest strength in utilizing a second tight end with regularity is managing possessions, killing the clock and wearing down defenses."
Those three results could encapsulate Pete Carroll's offensive philosophy.
So why have I put such an emphasis on the development of our young H-backs and tight ends? Well, 3k (the author) frames it well when he says, "the use of the H-back allows for a TE to set up at multiple spots: TE, WR, FB or RB. By pushing the player around the formation, it forces some kind of response from the defense to adjust to the switch. Complicating things even further is the possibility of motion. The H-back can play off the line next to the traditional TE and motion into another position. Conversely, he can come out of the FB spot up into a receiving spot to begin the play."
In other words, it makes things difficult for the defense and disguises what that H-back or tight end is going to do (I differentiate but really they're the same position; an H-back is simply a tight end that can move around into the backfield or out to the wing). This creates an advantage for the offense and makes a player with that skillset very dangerous. The Seahawks have a very talented and deep tight end corps in Jon Carlson, Cameron Morrah, Anthony McCoy, Jameson Konz, and even Dominique Byrd. Don't be surprised to see four or more tight ends make the final roster because I think they're going to continue to play a large role in the offense.
Check out the article for yourself because it's a great read and a lot of the concepts he's talking about can relate directly to the Seahawks. I wanted to use this article as a little primer for a couple more I've got in the works on the way the Hawks use tight ends and what we might expect from that position in 2011.
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John Carlson, please seperate head from ass..
Also talk to Aaron Curry and see if he would like to do the same.
I had high hopes for JC, second only to Curry, for having a break-out year. He started really slow and by the time he picked up a little momentum, the whole team went into the shitter. He was relagated to mostly blocking assignments while his real strength is route running and great hands.
I expect a slow start for the offensive line as the rookies/second year players start to gel and I hope that Carlson doesn’t get lost in the shuffle.
I've often wondered if that Chicago game plan implosion is what ultimately got Bates fired.
Granted it was an absolutely worst-case-scenario for injuries, but surely if you go in, on a concrete like field no less, with a game plan so largely built around having two specific players on the field at the same time, and, literally, no depth behind them; you need to have a solid back up plan(which we did not appear to have), if not even, come up with something completely different from the get go. We didn’t lose playmakers, we lost the playbook.
But how many of those multiple TE plays
were a result of having a makeshift O-line? It would be interesting to see how many of those plays had the TE’s helping with run blocking or running routes as opposed to pass blocking in max protection, making up in quantity what they lacked in quality. My guess is that it would be nearly 50/50. An even mix of a considered offensive plan and sheer necessity. Hopefully, now that we’ve shorn up the line a pretty good amount, we can start using our TE’s as something more than glorified linesmen and put them to more productive use.
Carlson as a run-blocking FB is clearly not ideal for the two TE set.
Also, Carlson as the LT helper is just a waste.
On the plus side, an entire year of blocking helped him develop that part of his game.
I’m still puzzled by the supposed emphasis on the run game without a dedicated FB.
by Groundhog on Jun 14, 2011 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
"I’m still puzzled by the supposed emphasis on the run game without a dedicated FB."
Amen. i don’t get it.
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I always pictured Carlson as
The Hunk of Cheese from Saturday mornings,

All Big Upper Body and these Skinny legs. Not really H Back Material.
JC’s Got some guns though.

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Two Tight End Offenses Will Be
The New Wildcat. NE was heavily successful at it, and it does bode well for the team, even without a Brady type. Bigger targets that actually contribute in the running game is great too.
Carlson had a bad year because he played 80% of the snaps out of position, and not playing to his strengths.
Cameron Morrah has got all the tools to be even better receiving TE than JC. His play will truly indicate on how often they move to this formation based on his success, not John Carlson’s.
So having High hopes for John Carlson is not something to throw away yet.
It may be a faster start than anticipated for them in the TE looks this year, especially if the offense is going to be more run heavy and ball control, and a QB will be looking at shorter distances and less reads for success.
Two TE formations are much easier on a QB, especially an inexperienced one, because his targets aren’t as far apart, and plays take less time to develop the shorter the ball has to go. If used correctly, it is a very balanced formation with little weaknesses, even if you go with only one back.
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I want to see a lot of Konz this preseason.
He has the potential to be the true X-factor of our offense; Carlson is just not a real H-back, but the athletic youngster could be a game-changer.
This article and the one at Turf Show Times (excellent) make me think differently about the defense
Not only in response to tall/big receivers, but also multiTE sets, perhaps PC is a year ahead of the league drafting bigger CBs and seeing less of the classic big, bruising LB and more of a hybrid LB/DB (KJ Wright, Malcolm Smith) – kind of the TE of the defense. Then again, maybe this is why Carroll values how Curry can defense TEs so much more than the media and fans do. Interesting article might be written exploring ways to defend the multiple TE formations beyond just having incredible linebackers who can “do everything” – Ray Lewis is a rare beast. Of course, having more coverage oriented LBs necessitates a DL very strong against the run; I hope some effort is made to bring in at least depth if not starting level talent in FA, otherwise I expect this to be addressed early in next year’s draft.
On that note, I pray PC and the coaching staff are able to be a little more fluid with in-game strategy as it seems they often took more time than the current game and sometimes weeks to change schema when we sustained major injuries (for example, losing both TEs in the Bears game, Red Bryant goes out and it’s not until the end of the season they switch his replacement to one gap responsibility – by my understanding). The best teams have player AND strategy depth, seems like we have been poor on both for some time now.
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