Seahawks Replay Booth: Lawyer Milloy, Veteran Savvy
When I go back and re-watch Seahawks games, one of my main goals is to pick out plays that stood out to me and break them down to you. One of the plays I broke down in detail a few weeks ago was a really instinctual and aggressive play by Lofa Tatupu in a third down situation. The play I picked out today comes from Lawyer Milloy in a 3rd down situation where he relied on quick recognition, aggressiveness, and basically what I can describe as a 'veteran savvy' in making the stop.
Here's the situation: Week 8 at Oakland, first quarter, the Raiders up 3-0 and trying to get a drive going. They've managed to get into a 3rd and 3 situation and are set up in a 3WR, 1TE, 1RB set with Jason Campbell in the shotgun.
(1:59 1st Quarter) (Shotgun) D.McFadden up the middle to OAK 21 for 1 yard (L.Milloy). 3rd and 3
You can see that the Hawks are in a Cover-2 look with their corners Marcus Trufant and Nate Ness (remember Nate Ness?) lined up right on the line of scrimmage in what looks to be press coverage. Earl Thomas is to the top of your screen on the right of the defense, and Lawyer Milloy is on the strong side in the secondary.
As an aside, Will Herring is creeping up in the SAM linebacker position for this set and is flanking Chris Clemons in a flipflop of what you'd normally see (typically Clemons would rush from the weakside (away from the tight end).
The ball is snapped and almost instantly you can see Milloy recognize the draw play. This is key because if Milloy hesitates on this play for one second the run has a chance to go for a first down.
From another angle, you can see Jason Campbell receive the snap and above you can already see Milloy moving forward. Herring is holding steadfastly on the edge, keeping his contain.
At first glance this play looks like it's setting up to be a counter but Darren McFadden takes one step towards the left B gap before changing direction to the right side B gap. You can see below, the left guard is pulling to the right to blow up Herring, leaving Lawyer Milloy responsible for the hole in run support.
By the time McFadden makes his cut to the strongside B gap Lawyer Milloy is flying downhill with a full head of steam, integral in this situation to hold the Raiders on 3rd and relatively short.
Above you can see Milloy closing off McFadden's hole and forcing him to stop in his tracks. If Milloy had hesitated, there's a good chance McFadden would have hit the hole hard and could easily have dragged Milloy a yard or three for the first down. There is less room for error on these types of plays than people think, and remember that Milloy is lined up 10-15 yards off the line of scrimmage on a 3rd and 3 situation. Because of Milloy's quick reaction, you see McFadden try to salvage something back to the left.
Milloy is on him too quickly.
A great stop on a third and 3 situation.
In my 4-3 Under series of posts I detailed what skill-set the safeties in this defense should have. As Jene Bremel put it, "they need range, closing speed, tackling skill and enough run-pass recognition ability not to get fooled by play-action."
This wasn't a play-action play, it was a draw, but the run-pass recognition was almost instantaneous on Milloy's part and is a good demonstration of what a veteran player can do for your team despite declining physical abilities. At first glance, it's coincidence that the two plays I picked out recently were by veteran guys that by most accounts are not elite physically and declining in effectiveness - Lofa Tatupu, once a perennial Pro-Bowler but now beset with injuries, and Lawyer Milloy, a 36, soon to be 37 year old safety that has been around for so long he played on Pete Carroll's last NFL team, the New England Patriots, over a decade ago.
On second glance though, maybe I actually picked out these plays because of the split -second reaction times and reliance on instinct and these skills are what stood out to me. Young players can rely on their physical abilities more and this can provide a cushion of forgiveness when they hesitate on a play. With players like Lofa and Lawyer though, this is a luxury they can't afford.
This is just one play and cannot be mistaken for an entire body of work. I'd have to watch a lot more tape to determine for myself whether it's in the Hawks' best interest or not to bring back Milloy. This play doesn't really prove anything one way or another - if you try and pick out highlights from this game you're going to have to really reach. The Hawks ended up losing 33-3 on what was one of the most frustrating days the entire season. I just saw this play and came away impressed with the veteran.
I don't know if Lawyer will be back with the Seahawks in 2011. Eric Williams put together a good piece on Milloy the other day and it sounds like he is ready to play another season. Whether it is with the Hawks or with someone else, not even Milloy knows. Here's what he said (per Williams):
"I had a chance to get back on the field last year, and I had outstanding numbers. You can put my numbers up to really anybody out there besides interceptions. I did the dirty work and I did my job. I definitely outworked my pay while making people around me better, and that's what I do.
"I'm a free agent, just like anybody else. I'm available to all teams. That's the only thing. When I go out, I want to go out fighting for a job. Just like last year when I talked to Pete (Carroll); I don't want anything handed to me. I want to go out and earn it. And as long as I feel that I can do that and keep my body in shape (I'll keep playing)."
Does that mean he wants to play again here in Seattle?
"Yeah, I'm a free agent. As a business person, you never say you love one situation over another when you're trying to get a job. I want to win a championship, that's always first and foremost. Being at home is a bonus. I'm open to whoever thinks they can have an older guy that can make plays, make people around them better and that can lead a team ¬ that's the best situation for me and that's where I'll be."
If he's not back, the Hawks may need to find an experienced strong safety to step in and guide our young secondary. Kam Chancellor and Mark LeGree, though extremely talented and potentially future stars, are raw and untested. If they step into the starting role they will need to demonstrate this type of instinct and prove they're not susceptible to biting and finding themselves out of position on play action and draws. I don't know if the Hawks are willing to gamble that they are indeed ready at this point. We'll see.
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Lawyer was solid last year...
And a natural leader. I think the longer this lockout drags on, the more likely he re-signs. Would love him to mentor the youth movement.
PLUS he can still lay hat…BAM!!! Crabtree’s rookie year anyone?
Ka-Kaaa!
I don't mind having Lawyer around, but I'm in favour of looking for a newer, younger starter.
Seems to me that safeties are always there to be signed.
It seems like the next starter may already be on the team
but Milloy brings a lot as long as he is ok with not starting. Couldn’t ask for a better mentor for Legree and Chancellor and could still be an effective player in the bandit.
by dingoeatbaby on Jul 13, 2011 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions
He is?
I don’t see any starting SSs on our roster.
by Thomas Beekers on Jul 13, 2011 5:48 PM PDT up reply actions
That game was brutal, but some hope still lies within it.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/boxscore?gid=20101031013&page=drives
Despite what the final score says, our defense still played pretty well that day, well at least for the first half, or even 5/8ths.
The offense however was completely anemic, going 3 and Out on their first five possessions. Even the usually money Mare was off, missing his first to FG attempts.
On top of all that we had to suffer the devastating loss of Big Red. I forget exactly when it was, but if you look at the play by play, despite racking up 239 yards on the ground, the Raiders really could not get their running game going until late in the game, right around when the defense would have been long past their last legs.
I know all that counts is the end of the day, W or L, but there were some positive aspects of this game can be taken. Just the slightest bit of help from the offense at any point of the first three quarters and this game would’ve been remarkably different.
Yeah- very true actually
The Hawks were ‘in’ the game until pretty late, I seem to remember. Their offense just couldn’t do a thing.
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by Danny Kelly on Jul 13, 2011 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions
I recall blaming this loss entirely on the offense.
This didn’t happen every time the Seahawks were defeated last year, but often enough to set a pattern. The offense couldn’t sustain a drive, take time off the clock, improve field postion, let alone score. Talk about a recipe for making the defense look bad.
by Hawksince77 on Jul 13, 2011 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions
Pretty much.
It was amazing our defense played as well as they did as long as they did.
But you see the Steelers and the Ravens play games like that for all four quarters, not just three, and still win it scoring 10-17 points. We need to be able to do that. Yes, those two teams are special, but that is was we should aspire to.
Earl Thomas + Mark Legree = Earl Gree. A new flavor of safety coming to you on Sunday's this Fall. They're gonna wake you up!
So you just outlined the first move they made.
Hire the coach from the other side (Cable), to sustain drives, run time off, improve field position and maybe score.
,,,a need for speed>>>>
We lost a few guys that day.
Seems to me Mebane was out already then we lost Red and Cole. I think .
So, what are you saying, Danny? That we should keep Milloy?
I agree….just not as a player. Hire him as a coach and make room for youth. His stellar plays (like, agreeably, this one) were far outnumbered by the number of times his old legs just couldn’t keep up.
by Chief Knockahomer on Jul 13, 2011 1:11 PM PDT reply actions
I think he made it pretty clear that he is going to be a player and not a coach next year.
I say re-sign him but don’t start him for more than the first 2-8 games. Kam (and hopefully Legree) should be ready by then.
Earl Thomas + Mark Legree = Earl Gree. A new flavor of safety coming to you on Sunday's this Fall. They're gonna wake you up!
Here's another radical thought....
Trade Lofa while he still has some REAL value. [Look no further than the Deon Branch fiasco to prove that "he who hesitates is lost/screwed.]
by Chief Knockahomer on Jul 13, 2011 1:13 PM PDT reply actions
Lofa has no real value
Not with his contract. Same is true for Trufe.
Not sure what your point is regarding Branch.
by Thomas Beekers on Jul 13, 2011 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions
My point, oh yee with the petrolium-jelly-like name....
is that they waited too long to dump Branch and his value was like a turd in a toilet bowl…flushable, and that’s it.
by Chief Knockahomer on Jul 14, 2011 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions
I don't know that Branch ever had much more value than we got for him
Why, do you know of teams clamoring to give us their 2nd round picks?
by Thomas Beekers on Jul 14, 2011 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions
Didn't the Seahawks get a 4th round pick from NE for Branch?
Sweet, if you ask me. A lot more than I would have thought, given the circumstances.
Of course, first thing he does in NE is post the best season he’s had since he left…
by Hawksince77 on Jul 14, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
You just made my point as well, Hawk-Since-1-year-after-I-was-a-Hawk.
by Chief Knockahomer on Jul 14, 2011 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Your point seems to be known only to you
But that’s cool I guess
by Thomas Beekers on Jul 14, 2011 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Your BrianL is showing.
Cover yourself, man! No one wants to see that!
by Chief Knockahomer on Jul 14, 2011 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions
Did you just remove my post to you?
The one (and, after what you just did…ONLY) compliment I’ll ever give you?
by Chief Knockahomer on Jul 14, 2011 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I can't remove posts
So no.
You’ve long since lost me tho’. I have no idea if you’re trying to be clever, amusing, insulting or mysterious. Whichever it is, your point is not coming across very well.
by Thomas Beekers on Jul 14, 2011 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I did
Just trying to avoid arguments for the sake of arguments. Keep it to football or cheerleaders on here. Or food. Or food and cheerleaders. Or anything but calling the mods names out of nowhere.
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Lawyer had a great season last year.
He was just done around week 13 or 14.
Sign him, and watch his “pitch count”.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
I like that idea.
And he WANTS to play until he reaches the point where he can’t do it anymore. I don’t think that point has been reached yet, though it’s not far off. Sign him, but keep him fresh and let the newbs get plenty of playing time.

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