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Seahawks Replay Booth: Aaron Curry, Strength on the Edge

Aaron Curry gets talked about a lot here, in the blogosphere, commentary, forums and papers, and a good deal of it is negative, but the good things he does for the Seahawks defense often get overlooked. The misconception is that because Curry was a number four pick in the draft, he should be putting up Clay Matthews sack numbers and making the Pro Bowl every year. Well, that's not completely fair. He has been underwhelming in relation to his draft position, but his role in this defense is not going to allot him flashy statistics. His role is to be a force on the edge, match up against tight ends, and occasionally rush the passer. The Sam linebacker, as I mentioned recently in a 4-3 under player type breakdown, should be "a good containment player. He has to be big and strong enough to play on the edge of the tight end."

I was doing some research for my continuing Raiders' jumbo package series, and a play Curry made against this formation really stood out to me. In this case though, instead of needing to be big and strong enough to play against a tight end, Curry is matched up against 6'5, 325 pound OT Khalif Barnes on the edge because of the Raiders 6OL formation. This is the role typically reserved for defensive ends but Curry handles the situation exactly like you'd hope he would.

I'll set it up. 2nd quarter, 10:13 to go. 1st and 10. 

(10:12) D.McFadden left end to SEA 38 for 1 yard (A.Curry).

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You can see that the Raiders are in their 6OL set here, with TE Brandon Myers set to the left in the wingback position, and OT Khalif Barnes the 6th offensive linemen, set up to the left side. Curry is lined up across from Barnes on the strong side, and because of the extra linemen, strong safety Lawyer Milloy has come down to the line to match up with the tight end. It looks like the Hawks are in a cover-3. 

For the Raiders, Darren McFadden is the lone back, and Jason Campbell is under center. Ball is snapped.

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It's a run to the left with Barnes and Myers attempting to seal Curry and Milloy off. The goal here is the C gap - what normally would be the hole between tight end and left tackle is now tackle and tackle. Here's where Curry dominates his assignment.

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You can see here as McFadden makes his cut and I've boxed Aaron Curry THROWING tackle Khalif Barnes to the ground like he's a 175 pound receiver. Milloy, for his part, has held the edge well against the tight end.

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Curry, after dispatching Barnes, meets McFadden head on and tackles him, allowing a mere yard on the play. This is the type of play that you love to see from your strongside linebacker. It's not glitzy.. Curry is fairly hidden in a group of defenders and if you're not watching closely it just looks McFadden runs into a pile. The fact that Curry shed his block so well should not be discounted, even though Barnes is no pro-bowler. He took on a much bigger lineman, used technique to get off his block, met the runner head on (while delivering a solid hit), and made the tackle. 

If you use this as a microcosm of what Aaron Curry could be for you, things start to look bright. He does have an ability to manhandle tight ends and even tackles, as he does here, and the basic assignment of being a strength on the edge seems easy for him. He runs into problems when forced to read and react; maybe it's the speed of the game, maybe it's him learning the system. Over the season I remember hearing quotes from Carroll on how they're trying to get Curry in a position to just play without thinking - something that he could excel at considering his size and athleticism. 

As for how the coaches feel about Curry, here's what Carroll said after the season: "We would like to continue to utilize him on the line of scrimmage. He's a real physical factor matching up on the tight ends, and he'll continue to get that done. He really excelled on that, and we'll just continue to let him grow in that situation.

"We think he's has a guy who has a tremendous amount of potential to get better. He wasn't able to factor in the pass rush as we hoped. He wasn't able to break into the top two rushers."

He wasn't super effective rushing from the 9-tech position (strongside linebacker) but did have some success when they lined him up in unconventional spots - a down lineman in the Bandit package would be one example. Maybe they'll look to build upon that in '11.

Pete Carroll had some additional comments on Aaron Curry after the season and they're basically in line with how I feel about the Seahawks' strongside linebacker. Carroll said, "The thing about the situation, he was the fourth pick in the draft and expectations were ridiculously high. He made a ton of money. He is a really talented, big, good-looking athlete and everybody on the outside expects him to be something different than what he is right now. He hasn't dominated yet, but he is a player on the come and he is improving and working hard and figuring it out. He is a factor. He is a real positive factor for us. But it's all expectations. That screws everyone up.

If you take a look at how he plays and what he does and how he produces, he's getting a lot done. But it doesn't meet up to the expectations. You can almost mis-evaluate him because he is supposed to be whatever he is supposed to be. To me, he is a guy on the team who busts his ass and is working hard and we're trying to fit into situations and a role for him that is best. The first day I got there, within the first hour, I put on film of him because I wanted to see what he could be as a pass-rusher. See if he had that ability because of the speed and the size and all that stuff. My expectations for him are high, but I don't think they are unrealistic."

In a nutshell, he's not as bad as everything says he is, but he's also not as good as everyone was hoping he'd be. He'll look to bridge the gap between the expectations and reality next season. It seems that Carroll is expecting him to develop as a pass rusher so hopefully they'll put him in a position that utilizes his natural abilities better. 

Dan Pompei alluded to a change, as he wrote recently, "Seahawks coaches want to tweak the way they use linebacker Aaron Curry. They want to have him drop less, especially in space. When Curry does drop in the future, it likely will mostly be on hooks to the flat. The fourth pick in the 2009 draft is a more effective defender on the line with his hands on the tight end. That way, he can use his strength and length to his advantage, and he doesn't have to think as much. Curry is a strong point of attack player who also could be an effective pass rusher. It's possible he will get more chances to chase the QB as well."

Aaron Curry is probably the most polarizing non-quarterback on the Seahawks' roster (Hawkblogger actually wrote almost this exact sentence in his AC piece yesterday as well, but I'm keeping this because I wrote this article a few days ago.. but just FYI I'm not plagiarizing) and there's been plenty of re-hashing on the subject this offseason already. Benne did a good week-by-week look at Curry's play and I highly suggest you revisit them now.

Intro
Weeks 1-4
Weeks 5-7
Weeks 8-9
Weeks 10-11

John Morgan did a couple of tape-reviews of Curry as well, herehere, and here


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Seems to be the consensus opinion of Curry

He’s not necessarily bad. In fact, I think he’s pretty good. But he hasn’t been good enough to justify a 4th overall draft pick. For that kind of choice, you want to have a game changer that’ll show up on Pro Bowl lists that other teams have to plan to work around. He’s not there yet, but little by little he’s getting better.

by Clendy on Jul 19, 2011 12:23 PM PDT reply actions  

Is he just dumb?

All of these accounts tell me that Curry really is just not a very smart guy. He is a super athlete but he makes mistakes when he has to diagnose more complex situations. Remember his first couple of games as a Hawk? He was pure intensity. He got some penalties but I feel like Mora dialed him down and he lost some of his spark.

by Billy Showbiz on Jul 19, 2011 12:24 PM PDT reply actions  

your comment is extremely rude to the player.

book smarts and game feel are two very different things. maybe he lacks feel for the speed of the NFL passing game. i don’t know if he is "smart" but he graduated from Wake Forest in 4 years with a degree in sociology while preparing and playing college football at a high enough level to be an NFL player.

Smashmouth is the new sexy!

by pqlqi on Jul 19, 2011 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

not just an NFL player, but a top 5 pick...

And at the time of the draft quite possibly the best player. I still have hope for him even though 95% of people on this site don’t.

by SGT Lenny on Jul 19, 2011 6:15 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

It figures that the media just wants to focus on the negative aspects of Aaron Curry’s life and career. If they took a bit to focus on his strength as a player, they may get a bit more material written.

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by ktalkulu on Jul 19, 2011 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I wouldn't say dumb.

I’d say he was a player who acted on his instincts in college, which served him well. In the NFL, he’s learning that his athleticism won’t make up for overpursuit or biting on misdirection. Carroll seems to be taking that problem out of the equation by sticking him on the line where he can be a charging bull and not pay for it. I’d guess that once he starts to recognize playaction better up close, they’ll be dropping him into coverage more often – his pass defense skills are above average for a LB, let alone a DE.

by Groundhog on Jul 19, 2011 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Great!

So Curry has no off season to work with coaches and scheme to help hone his game. I think John Morgan will be prophetic: "Curry is maybe a little better this season than last. If he’s a little better next season than this, it will be time to begin wondering aloud if he’s a bust. "

Let the wondering aloud begin!

by Flahawker on Jul 19, 2011 12:55 PM PDT reply actions  

To what end?

Cake for me too, please.

by shams on Jul 19, 2011 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Curry isn't that good

If I’m not mistaken Curry played one season on Wake Forest’s First team and he got that position because the #1 guy got hurt for the season. Curry is an average NFL DE or a less than average Weakside LB. When a person is drafted #4 and paid ALOT OF MONEY there is a logical expectation that the guy will be that damn good. He is a bust as a NFL LB, he just can’t play to the level of expectation, so I’d like to see if he can play to expectation at DE.

by woodfarm on Jul 19, 2011 1:02 PM PDT reply actions  

You are mistaken...

Curry started 49 of 51 games in college. He did not start the first game of his Freshman season and was held out of the starting lineup for one game as a Junior for missing class. Second team Freshman All-American, Second team All-American as a Junior, First team All-American and Butkus award winner as a Senior. He had a stellar college career throughout.

by creid on Jul 19, 2011 2:05 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

So should we be expecting the longer learning curve of an average DE,

Instead of the learning curve of a LB? Guess we won’t be able to call him a bust if he doesn’t perform this year either.

by Groundhog on Jul 19, 2011 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions  

i agree with the implications of this article

Curry is very good in the NFL at some things. He is limited in other things. The 4th pick was probably too high, and there are certainly players I wish the Hawks had chosen instead. But he is and will be a pretty solid contributor wherever he plays… I hope it’s here.

Smashmouth is the new sexy!

by pqlqi on Jul 19, 2011 1:28 PM PDT reply actions  

What I found most remarkable in this article (and no one has remarked on it) is what PC had to say.

He hits the nail right on the head, doesn’t sugar-coat it, tells it like it is, concerning how high Curry was drafted and the expectations that went along with it, and how while from his perspective Curry “works his ass off” to get better, and contributes in a positive way, and still has a lot of untapped potential, from the outside he will probably never meet the expectations of those on the outside looking in (including fans posting here) because if the expectations that have dogged him with his draft (and remember – there were people saying that Curry was the BEST PLAYER that year, and might even be drafted first overall).

So Curry has to appreciate PC’s words, I would think, as opposed to some of the words in this thread. I am not qualified to say how good he is, one way or another, outside of what I read, and it seems that based on what Danny points out in his write up, and what PC has to say, that Curry can be a solid contributer in the Seahawks defense, even if he never becomes a pro-bowler or an out-and-out star.

I suspect had he been selected in the 4th round we’d all be happy with his play.

by Hawksince77 on Jul 19, 2011 1:41 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

He might be a long-term, half-decent player in this league.

But it very likely won’t be with the Hawks. His contract is massive – there will be little rationale for the Seahawks to keep him. He’ll likely be cut at some point, and then signed by someone else at a cheaper rate.

by djafrot on Jul 19, 2011 3:54 PM PDT reply actions  

The Bust of Aaron Curry

Just this last season, his 2nd year, he was finally being utilized properly. PC realized that Curry is only good/ impactfully when he is blitzing (North/South). His inabilty to cover the flats i.e. drop back in coverage or even read the offensive formations is obvious but that is Still Teachable. Unfortunately, so far, Aaron Curry is not that all around versatile player we had expected him to be. But our defensive need is to pressure the QB. Aaron Curry should, and will fulfill that need . He has the potential, and is to some, of being a QBs nightmare.
Stunt him on the Line and off the edge !
Reminder; He hasn’t had the best coaching his whole 2 year Pro Career

by HawkO'War on Jul 19, 2011 5:24 PM PDT reply actions  

Here's my take on Curry as a pass-rusher

He doesn’t work well as a Leo because he doesn’t have the bend to turn the corner. He doesn’t work well as an NT in Bandit because even if he gets push, his lack of girth allows the center to move him to one side or the other which opens the pocket. His best position for rushing the passer is 3-tech. Allow me to use this Hawk Defense highlight reel to demonstrate.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVlp6h-yaiw
At 1:26 you see him use a pretty weak pass rush move but his explosiveness is enough to get by the RG to sack Alex Smith. At 3-tech he can use his speed and power without having to turn such a tight corner. This isn’t what has me excited though. At 1:53 you see him use a spin move and then again at 2:03. Both are poorly set up but successful none-the-less because of how violently he spins. If he can develop that spin move then I bet he puts up some sacks from this position next year.

by Hawkhammer19 on Jul 19, 2011 8:44 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I hadn't thought about moving him there.

It also allows moving Mebane into Cole’s spot.

by bewrong on Jul 19, 2011 9:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Adding KJ Wright will allow for more flexibility with this too.

Wright’s greatest strength is zone coverage (from what I understand), which is Curry’s greatest weakness. So at the risk of tipping our hand, it would make sense if we subbed in Wright at SAM when we wanted to play zone, which then frees up Curry to play on the DL. Passing downs would be the most likely time for this but not necessarily.

On another note, many scouts said that Curry’s most natural position would be 3-4 ILB when he was coming out of college. I think there’s some truth to that. Now, does anyone remember Carroll saying we’re like a 4-3 team with 3-4 personnel? Well in one of the playoff games (can’t remember which one), I know I saw Curry drop back into coverage from the 3-tech spot… That math make sense to anyone else?

by Hawkhammer19 on Jul 20, 2011 12:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I have thought about it

Because like Hawkhammer I’ve seen that he gets by guards (and sometimes tackles) well when one-on-one. When he’s gap-shooting and blitzing he’s fine.

That doesn’t make him a good fit for the 3-tech full-time though. He can rush like mad but unless you’re playing an aggressive gap-shooting system (and we’re not) that isn’t the extent of the 3-tech’s responsibility. I don’t think Curry has the size or mental abilities (right now) to play 3-tech fulltime.

by Thomas Beekers on Jul 20, 2011 1:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

I translate what Coach Carrol is saying to...

We didn’t let him play to his strengths and blitz off the edge enough last year. He was lost when dropping back into coverage. With promise of more speed at SS this upcoming season we are gonna have hunting QB’s on way more downs in hopes he will become what he was meant to be, not what we thought he was meant to be. Stop hating on Aaron because he’s not a pro bowler yet he’s amazingly talented and this is his year to prove it as we are going to let him be himself and play to his strengths for I’d rather a promising player with a chip on his shoulder break out for Seattle than another team.

As much as i’ve been involved with jokes about Curry flopping on this site I’ve never actually thought of him as a bust, THIS IS THE YEAR HOWEVER for his play to dictate what he is to become for the rest of his career and I believe he is well aware of that.

"I was 11 or 12 and Quinton was like 30. He was the only dude on the Pop Warner team who had a full mustache and a beard. And he used to drive to Pop Warner games. You're not supposed to be doing that. It was crazy." -Marshawn Lynch

by IMIN4LIFE on Jul 19, 2011 10:30 PM PDT reply actions  

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