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Know Your Enemy: Around the NFC West

Here's a glimpse around the NFC West. If you're a hardcore fan, you'll know the ins and outs of your opponents as well - or you should strive to anyway. Not only that, but there's a good nucleus of writers in the SBN NFC West that put together some good research and analysis. Take a look.

St Louis Rams

Will the Rams regress in 2011? - Turf Show Times: "I glanced at the fan confidence poll the other day (that zig zag line on your left) and notice that despite the lockout, the offseason and a draft that still has some scratching their heads, fans are feeling pretty good about the St. Louis Rams right now. And how could you not? They have a talented young QB united with an offensive coordinator known for getting production out of his teams. On the other side of the ball, a strong pass rush added a premier defensive end in the first round of the draft. A group of tireless, humble, dedicated group of football minds lead the team both on the field and in the front office. Springtime for the Rams!" 

Why the Rams Drafted a Million Pass Catchers - Turf Show Times: "We all thought it as the draft continued. Most of us were happy with Quinn as a first round pick (I disagreed, but more on that later). I wasn't upset, but saw an opportunity to trade down. Another article, another day. Anyways, here's the deal after the jump. The recent talks that vanram reported concerning Clayton and the Rams got me to thinking. Why the hell are we so interested in this guy?"

Free agent notes: Barry Cofield fully recovered from shoulder surgery - Turf Show Times: "Giants DT and likely unrestricted free agent Barry Cofield told the NY Post that his shoulder is fully recovered from January surgery. More importantly, Cofield again acknowledges that his days with the Giants are over, significant only because he has a preference to return to New York. He may get a small does of the Giants, if the St. Louis Rams make a run at him in free agency and reunite with with Steve Spagnuolo."

2010 St. Louis Rams recap: Week 1 v. Arizona (1st half) - Turf Show Times: "So I'm going to try to run through these as quickly as possible to get through the season before The Great Flood of Free Agents hits, and all other efforts die a swift death.  It won't happen, but hopefully we'll get all 16 games in at some point."

4 UDFAs the Rams should target - Turf Show Times: "Today I wanted to look at four guys I want the St. Louis Rams to target in UDFA.  This will be the most important thing for the Rams to do, along with every other team, as soon as the lockout is over.  I'm hoping these guys have continued to keep working out, both mentally and physically.  This will be the toughest year for UDFAs."

San Francisco 49ers

49ers Minicamp: Colin Kaepernick Heading Into Training Camp - Niners Nation: "One of the stories to come out of yesterday's first day of the "Camp Alex" 49ers minicamp was word that a Colin Kaepernick pass knocked wide receiver Lance Long backwards as he was not expecting that kind of power behind the throw. It's an amusing tale and if Kaepernick develops into the 49ers long-term starter, I bet this will be part of the tale of Colin told to future generations. However, for the purposes of the here and now, it's simply good to see him get out on the practice field and run a few plays out of the new playbook."

The NFL Salary Cap: My, How Far We've Come - Niners Nation: "We take a look at the 49ers current situation with regards to Aubrayo Franklin and how it compares to the Ricky Watters contract situation in 1995."

2011 Free Agency Primer: The Fullback Position And Our San Francisco 49ers - Niners Nation: "It is one of the most unheralded positions in all of professional sports. Players put their health and future on the line going neck and neck against opposing defenders. It is a position that requires a lot of humility and sense of team; it is the fullback position." 

49ers Blitzing Defense: Questions In The Scheme Or Talent? - Niners Nation: "ESPN's Mike Sando has returned from his recent vacation and he put together a rundown of how each NFC West team performed when they sent different numbers of blitzers. Specifically, he looked at four or fewer rushers and five or more rushers. The rundown of stats provided some interesting numbers that raise a variety of questions."

NN NFL Tournament of Badness: Seahawks Alternates and New Referee Rule - Niners Nation: "(5) Seahawks Alternates Wearing these uniforms should be considered a war crime. They are just awful, and most Seahawks fans will neglect to defend them. They are an abomination and an affront to VISION everywhere. I spit on these uniforms. I bite my thumb at them. I have nothing more to say."

2011 NFC West Schedules: And Down The Stretch They Come! - Niners Nation: "While we sit twiddling our thumbs waiting for the NFL Lockout to come to an end, I thought it would be at least mildly entertaining to take a look at 2011 schedules around the NFC West. More importantly, I wanted to pull up the final four games for each member of the NFC West. While it's possible somebody might run away with the division, odds would seem to be fairly high that the division will come down to the wire. Throw in the fact that the NFL will have all divisional matchups during the final week of the season and it could prove to be a wildly entertaining final Sunday."

Arizona Cardinals

NFL Lockout: Arizona Cardinals Players Planning Minicamp - Revenge of the Birds: "News has come out from Kent Somers that our beloved Arizona Cardinals players are trying to put together a player "minicamp" that would be something similar to the OTA's (Organized Team Activities) that were skipped this year due to the lockout. Where it would be held is up in the air, but hit the jump to find out who is working on putting this together and what player would be more than likely opposed to attending."

NFL Top 100 Players Of 2011: Larry Fitzgerald, No. 14 - Revenge of the Birds: "In the offseason of nothing, NFL Network has presented the player-voted list of the top 100 players in the NFL. Previously, one Arizona Cardinals player was featured -- Adrian Wilson, who was ranked 89th by his player peers. In the penultimate episode of the series, receiver Larry Fitzgerald was featured as they presented players 20-11 in the countdown. Larry was ranked 14th and his video feature was presented by former coach Todd Haley, now the head coach for the Kansas City Chiefs."

NFL Rumors: So Marc Bulger Wants To Start Now? - Revenge of the Birds: "In the offseason of quarterback speculation, name after name has been connected to the Arizona Cardinals. In fact, the same names keep coming up and disappearing. Marc Bulger is one of these names and has been on-again, off-again in rumors. Now, it appears that he is perhaps on-again with the possibility of being Arizona's 2011 starting quarterback."

NFL Rumors: Kevin Kolb For Daryl Washington? - Revenge of the Birds: "As if there weren't enough speculation going around about Kevin Kolb and potentially being the next starting quarterback for the Arizona Cardinals, now there another that just seemed to come out of nowhere. First the rumors involved draft picks. Then it was a pick and a player. Now it is a player. Recently it was Kolb for Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie. Now, the latest name thrown out there as a possibility to go to the Philadelphia Eagles to acquire the oft-mentioned quarterback is second-year linebacker Daryl Washington."

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Softys tweet.

 http://twitter.com/#/Softykjr/status/86978786486272000

Adds to the rumors even if it’s not new it was tweeted recently, (<24 hours ago). Would you give a pick and a player?

eg. 1st and Trufant or Curry and a 3rd?

,,,a need for speed>>>>

by woofu on Jul 2, 2011 2:47 PM PDT reply actions  

I wouldn't give up anything near to a 1st or equitable value for Kolb

I delight in the idea of the Cards giving up quality players/picks for Kolb much more than the idea of us landing him.

by Thomas Beekers on Jul 2, 2011 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep.

Even if they get him cheap, I’m pretty happy… I really don’t see him amounting to much, and as a result, we’ll have three or four years of mediocre Cards.

by djafrot on Jul 2, 2011 11:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Its amazing what image will do for you

Somehow Kolb has an image as if he is a good option, but his numbers are only marginally, at best, better than Lienarts. He has a better image though.

by stufr on Jul 3, 2011 4:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not new.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/07/02/seattle-radio-station-seahawks-make-big-offer-for-kolb/

FWIW, it does tell you what plan A was. Plan B must be Hass if logic can follow actions. So what is C,D,etc.?

All that being true, it kind of pours water on the Palmers noise. Palmer would probably be ahead of Matt $7 mill/one year, if you were just following a money trail.

,,,a need for speed>>>>

by woofu on Jul 3, 2011 4:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well well. I didn't think the Seahawks were THAT serious about Kolb. Go figure.

Anyway, until now I have dismissed the possibility as an option that costs too much for too little. The following link doesn’t really change my perspective, but gives some medium-level scouting on the QB:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/Kevin-Kolb-Philadelphia-Eagles-scouting-exclusive-analysis-premier-player-on-trade-market-062911

by Hawksince77 on Jul 3, 2011 6:07 AM PDT up reply actions  

Cosell is the best tape guy in the NFL, without a doubt

And he sounds like he does when talking about Mark Sanchez. Not a QB he wants to write off yet, but not someone who impresses right now.

My basic view of Kolb too. He’ll be 27 come this season, and yet he’s no better at reading Ds than Charlie Whitehurst? No thanks.

by Thomas Beekers on Jul 3, 2011 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

A first and a third (if the rumor is true) is massively expensive.

I can’t imagine making that trade for anyone less then a top/proven NFL QB. No one even comes to mind. Philip Rivers? Eh. Brady? Sure, when Belichek is ready, someone will give him that. Manning? Not at this point. Rodgers, maybe Ryan. I might seriously consider Stafford or Bradford. Who else? Not Romo, or Rothlesberger (I couldn’t take seeing him in a Seahawks uniform), or Eli Manning, or Sanchez, or Cutler, or even Mike Vick. Who else?

Point is, a first and a third is a ton of draft value. I can’t imagine Kolb is close to worth it.

by Hawksince77 on Jul 3, 2011 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don't agree with you there

A franchise QB is worth two 1sts, easily, and you’re listing a lot of franchise guys there. The Chargers would laugh in your face if you offered them two 1sts for Rivers.

Remember, Cutler went from the Broncos to the Bears. He was packaged with a 5th rounded in return for Kyle Orton, a 3rd rounder and two 1st rounders. I’m not even that big a fan of Cutler but I could see the sense in that trade. Proven franchise QBs are worth that. The only thing that makes it seem unbalanced is Kyle Orton’s performance, and that might be very scheme-sensitive and collapse next season.

And the Iggles are claiming Kolb is exactly that, a proven franchise QB. That’s a ridiculous claim, but all they need is for one team to bite.

by Thomas Beekers on Jul 3, 2011 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

Me too. I definitely don't disagree with you there

Consider Schaub and Cassel were both had at two 2nd-rounders (and swapping 1sts for Schaub, IIRC). And those guys were much more proven than Kolb is.

The more I think about it, the more I feel insulted by the Iggles asking price, and really hope this 1st and 3rd thing is just a planted rumor. Kolb doesn’t even approximate that value.

by Thomas Beekers on Jul 3, 2011 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

If we do then it adds weight to theory I just made up

that Carroll is a robot, remotely controlled by an evilly-cackling Ruskell from his moon base.

I really don’t think he’s worth it. Considering the schedule means it is more than possible we will absolutely roasted next season, it would be galling to end up with a top 4 pick and miss out on a potential franchise QB. And that having had to sit there all season weeping as Curry pulled on a different jersey, worked out what he was supposed to be doing and spent the year chewing up ball carriers like a pit bull in slipper factory.

by JohnnyLondon on Jul 3, 2011 4:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

WOOOOO!! That ain't your cake, Sam!

That’s Simone’s cake! You eat someone else’s cake again, and I’ll give you a slice of Terry’s special PAIN CAKE! And you WON’T want seconds of that!

by Clendy on Jul 2, 2011 5:44 PM PDT reply actions  

Fan poll: If we could accurately predict that Kolb's career/QB skills would develop similarly to Hasselback's, what would you trade for him?

I would trade Whitehurst and a 2nd round pick for Kolb, IF…
         …Kolb would sign a 4 year contract for 24-28 million (12-14 million guaranteed) with incentives that might take it up to around 36-40 million and a 2 year team option for 18 million per year. The contract would be billed as a 6 year 76 million contract and you could get out for basically one year of Franchise QB salary. Resign Matt to a 2 year contract for 3.5 million a year with incentives built in for games he plays more than half the offensive downs. Then leave the position open for competition.

I pose this question because I think Kolb’s upside is probably pretty similar to Hasselback’s best years.

Smashmouth is the new sexy!

by pqlqi on Jul 4, 2011 7:50 AM PDT reply actions  

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