Seahawks Free Agency 2011 Recap: Assessing the Moves
by Danny Kelly on Jul 30, 2011 7:00 AM PDT
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PrintThe Hawks have been movers and shakers in this shortened period of free agency and for the most part I've been very excited about what they're doing. Because it's been a bit of a whirlwind, and because I'm obsessively organized, let's take a minute to sum up what's happened, and I'll give some brief thoughts on what Pete and John have done to the Seahawks' roster.
First, the Hawks brought in a large crop of undrafted free agents. By my count, I'd say we're sitting at 22 training camp invitees. There are some intriguing players in that group and judging on the depth at certain spots on the team, a few of them could even catch on to the 53-man roster.
For your viewing pleasure, here's the list of UDFAs the Hawks have brought in:
- DT Ladi Ajiboye South Carolina
- DE Pierre Allen Nebraska
- WR Doug Baldwin Stanford
- FB Dorson Boyce Washington
- DE Jarrett Crittenton Middle Tennessee State
- P John Gold Texas
- CB Jesse Hoffman Eastern Washington
- G Michael Huey Texas
- T Zach Hurd Connecticut
- S Jeron Johnson Boise State
- QB Zac Lee Nebraska
- WR Ricardo Lockette Fort Valley State
- LB Deron Minor McNeese State
- LB Mike Morgan USC
- G/C Brent Osborne Harvard
- CB Ron Parker Newberry
- QB Josh Portis California (Pa.)
- S Rickey Thenarse Nebraska
- TE Ryan Travis West Liberty
- LB Blake Sorensen, Wisconsi
- LB Neal Howey, Eastern Michigan
- K Wes Bynum, Auburn
I'm sure I'm missing something. But overall - pretty solid. Let's keep this train rollin -- we'll see if any more moves are made today.
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wanted to post a highlight video of some T.Jax/sidney play from 2010
couple REALLY nice plays by sid. here, and I like the awareness to set up throwing lanes by T.Jax as he uses his mobility to get out of the pocket. (side note: Favre does/did that a lot as well.)
of note i feel is that:
Tarvaris throws apick six to begin that game. Doesnt let it phase him and goeson to have agreat game that notwithstanding.
Why is does every Youtube highlight clip come with a shitty
Rap or Heavy metal soundtrack !
Just once I want to see a Seahawks highlight clip with a Corey Hart or Talking Heads soundtrack.
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Danny,
so essentially we’re using the money we were going to pay Andrews to pay ME!Bane? He’s averaging about 5/year right?
Any Hawk interest in linebackers that are still available that you know of? Schneider says we’re not even to stage 2 of Hawks free agency (im taking as they arent ready to evaluate the roster before moving to stage two) so whodo you think the next signing is?
Andrews contract was through the end of this year. Heavily backloaded it seems.
So it pays for Mebane this year but not through the next 4 more years.
Earl Thomas + Mark Legree = Earl Gree. A new flavor of safety coming to you on Sunday's this Fall. They're gonna wake you up!
I'm feeling really good about the Seahawks
Top to bottom, this is the most talent the ’Hawks have had in a while. There are lots of question marks (Young CBs & Trufant, D-Line, QB, Lofa/Curry, Lynch, Young O-Line) but there are less definitive needs and we are maybe an off-season or two (and a franchise QB) away from being a pretty complete team.
New Year, New concerns..
I think most of my excitement right now is generated from the “potential” of the new players. Can’t wait to be pleasantly surprised by some of the rookies and new guys. I feel really good about the hawks however the schedule shows 4-5 possible wins this year.
fully agree
It’s really encouraging to see how Pete and John are approaching building this team as oppossed to some previous regimes (ok, the previous regime). They’ve shown a willingness to be super aggressive for better or worse, when they find a QB that they deem as franchise QB worthy, I think they’ll sell the farm to get him which I have no problems with. Mainly because our offensive core is young and under team control. The o-line should be together for 3 years, Leon Beast Force same deal, and Rice/BMW could be one of the best 1-2 punches in the league. Is it August 11th yet?
Depending on how things shake out
I can see the roster being solid enough in a year for the FO to pull a Ditka/Rickey Williams move to get their man at QB. Even that might not be enough to get Luck, but it might get them another very good player. I guess that’s a huge roll of the dice — if the QB doesn’t pan out then Schneider and Carroll could be toast, like Ditka was in New Orleans — but I don’t see these guys being risk-averse at all.
by Suburban Shocker on Jul 30, 2011 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions
No mention of Mark Legree?
You broke my heart Danny, You broke my heart.
Not a free agent.
I think I know enough of hate/ To say that for destruction Rice/ Is also great/ And would suffice.
I forgot to include him on the rookie signings part
I added it! Sorry Mark!
Proactive-like-Nonstop
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by Danny Kelly on Jul 30, 2011 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions
I hope we spend the rest of this offseason bolstering the defense.
I think the offense is as good as it can possibly get this year (unless Mike Brown decides to quit being a douche). I would like to see us continue to improve the front 7.
OOOOOH!!!!! That was NASTY!!!!!!!!
Could stand to upgrade at FB
But other than that I agree.
Still holding onto my hope for Leach.
Fullback's not really a necessary position on this team
Although that may have been more Bates offense? Still, I don’t see a problem with having force and beastmode in the same backfield or a lot of six offensive lineman/one back sets. Defense is a higher priority, especially a pass rusher or cornerback would be good.
by B.B.Finnegan on Jul 30, 2011 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Marshawn Lynch really needs a fullback to maximize his running
Force doesn’t.
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by Thomas Beekers on Jul 30, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
Fullback is incredibly important
Jackson is now the designated starter, which means we need the running game to generate as many yards as possible. Jackson has thrown 110 yards per game in Minnesota. He’ll do more here probably but even if he doubles it, that still sucks.
by EthelGemerman on Jul 30, 2011 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Jackson the starter?
I just heard it on Clayton’s radio show.
by EthelGemerman on Jul 30, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
They can still use some more O-line bodies
I know they’ve got the starting front five penciled in, but that includes two rookies (on whom public opinion is, I will just say, less than universally positive), another player who has been out for a year and looked underwhelming before that, and a possibly injury-prone LT. I would definitely want to add some more guys to push them. Polumbus will help but they should go for more.
by Suburban Shocker on Jul 30, 2011 10:50 AM PDT up reply actions
We signed Polumbus, right?
Clayton is saying this morning that Spencer isn’t getting much action in the free agency market. We could sign him as depth. I think the thing with Unger is that he’s not a power guy. He doesn’t have the power base that a guy like Carpenter has, so he’s not our best option at guard. At center, he doubles and gets on LBs. Unger should be good doing that. If not, maybe we can keep Spencer around to rotate in.
by EthelGemerman on Jul 30, 2011 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions
If he primarily doubles and second-level blocks as center,
it’ll be because Cable schemed it that way to minimize his weaknesses. Ideally, you want your center to be able to do most of what your guards can do.
Only if you play a lot of 3-4 teams, I guess.
Even then, the nose tackle is usually playing a gap to the left or right of the center. There’s a lot of variation but I always thought of centers – I’m thinking about Mawae in particular – as usually needing help from guards.
by EthelGemerman on Jul 30, 2011 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I don't know if anyone has said it, but apparently the min spend floor doesn't take effect until 2013
From Clayton on the radio
So, does anyone know if there will be a presser to introduce our FA signings today?
OOOOOH!!!!! That was NASTY!!!!!!!!
I'm guessing he's the odd man out after the Branch signing
It was a worthwhile gamble, but I don’t see much of a role for him, if he sticks at all.
by Suburban Shocker on Jul 30, 2011 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions
He is good depth and has versatility.
My guess is he sticks with us this year and is gone next year.
Earl Thomas + Mark Legree = Earl Gree. A new flavor of safety coming to you on Sunday's this Fall. They're gonna wake you up!
Balmer was fine given what we asked him to do.
Given what we have at RDT, he’s a hell of a lot better option than Terrill. I think he’s as solid as Siavii, he’s young and will get better as the DLine stabilizes.
by EthelGemerman on Jul 30, 2011 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I penciled him at 3-tech, but mostly because I don't think they're looking at him for 5-tech anymore
I guess he has value as 3/5-swing depth.
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by Thomas Beekers on Jul 30, 2011 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions
Supposed to find out who the starter at QB going into camp is today.
I’m pullin for Cholly Pops.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
I'm pulling for Carson Palmer ;)
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by ironheart777 on Jul 30, 2011 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions
Well, that would be an upgrade.
but I was going with who we’ve got signed.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
Who knows. Maybe JS offered Mike Brown a bag of Skittles.
Maybe Mike Brown really loves Skittles.
OOOOOH!!!!! That was NASTY!!!!!!!!
by bmxnw on Jul 30, 2011 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Mike Brown loves hime some Mike Brown.
And some money. But that’s about it.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
Mike Brown cares about having money.
Paul Allen cares about spending it.
Big difference.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
So what if Palmer showed up for Bengals camp?
I wonder if that would help force the trade because Mike Brown would have to give Carson whatever his salary his.
Still hoping he shows up
the day before 53 man roster cuts.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
Seriously: Cholly or TJax?
Where are you at?
I’ve seen most of TJax’s games, and he shit’s the bed in crunch time. Looks ok for a while and then throws 8 picks in a big, playoff type game.
No way we beat the Rams in a playoff for the playoffs if TJax is under center.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
My thoughts exactly
On Matt’s first 3 seasons.
He's thrown one pick in one playoff game
He hasn’t played much the last few years. You’re thinking games when he was a rookie? That was 3-4 years ago. The last multi interception game that was a loss was back in 07.
Not saying he’s great or anything, but you’re exaggerating.
by B.B.Finnegan on Jul 30, 2011 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions
I thought 8 picks was a dead give away for exaggerating
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
But you're exaggerating something that isn't there at all
Which is more like just making stuff up because you don’t like the guy.
by B.B.Finnegan on Jul 30, 2011 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
This isn't the pepsi challenge.
This is like RC cola vs. Shasta.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
No way that's a no brainer, RC cola for sure!
by B.B.Finnegan on Jul 30, 2011 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
But only because I used to think RC stood for Radio Controlled
And I was always like “radio controlled soda? how sweet is that!!”
by B.B.Finnegan on Jul 30, 2011 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
So that's a vote for Cholly.
Jesus locks = royal crown.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
You're not alone
Talk to just about any Viking fan and they’ll say the same thing. Jackson crumbles under pressure. Everybody is also talking about his fluency with the playbook. From what I read, that was another weakness when he first came in for Favre. They had to dumb the playbook down because he’s a little slow on the uptake. The line on him there is ‘good athelete, good tools, easily flustered interception machine’. Since now he is the starter, maybe we’ll find a scheme that minimizes the damage he can do.
by EthelGemerman on Jul 30, 2011 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Maybe next off season we can sign Larry Fitzgerald in FA
after Kolb chokesondick for 8 games before getting carted off with an exploded knee.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
Yeah, and BMW is like 3.2
So imagine trying to scheme for that 3 WR set. Jump balls for everyone.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
adbrandt Andrew Brandt As first reported by @AlbertBreer, the NFLPA is a union again. Recertification complete, negotiations on final CBA issues ongoing in DC.
This means all the new signees can practice, right? Danny O’Neil says Siavii is practicing. He wouldn’t be able to practice unless that were the case, right? Excited to hear the reports on the new guys.
by It's Good To Be King on Jul 30, 2011 9:40 AM PDT reply actions
Really?
As far as I know we have to negotiate CBA issues first and the NFL has to start the league year. The league year hasn’t been started yet.
If Siavii is practicing he’s breaking the rules, I think.
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by Thomas Beekers on Jul 30, 2011 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions
They are allowed to be present and watch, note
Which is what I see most beat writers reporting.
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by Thomas Beekers on Jul 30, 2011 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Maybe not.
I guess his actual wording was that Siavii was “on the field for practice.” I’m thinking they need to wait for ratification, which will be Aug. 4 or earlier, depending on the negotiation of final issues.
by It's Good To Be King on Jul 30, 2011 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions
Agreed Very Inaccurate On madden
He’s Like Mike Vick Lite, very athletic, but erratic throwing the ball. With the big receivers and athletes that the team has, maybe that will be mitigated some.
If you really want a challenge, try playing with Whitehurst. You’ll be punching yourself.
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I thought about bringing in Whitehurst actually because I had never played a full game with him.
I actually created Josh Portis too. He looks badass but I probably made him too good (along with the rest of the players I had to create).
Whitehurst can be erratic passing wise in Madden but he's decent...
good at scrambling and not bad in Run N Gun…
"I was 11 or 12 and Quinton was like 30. He was the only dude on the Pop Warner team who had a full mustache and a beard. And he used to drive to Pop Warner games. You're not supposed to be doing that. It was crazy." -Marshawn Lynch
I just don't see how any 'Hawks fans are going to want to play with the team online when the new game comes out though.
I suppose if one is a good enough player, the incompetence of our virtual QB’s can be overcome but damn, their inaccuracy could get you into some real hairy situations.
by StealthHawk on Jul 30, 2011 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Given Last Year's Training Camp
…plus Pete and John’s own comments, the minute teams start making cuts, our FO will sift through the discards looking for incremental upgrades.
You gotta kiss a lot of frogs, i guess, but I wonder what this does for team “chemistry”. Perhaps you don’t worry about chemistry until you have a mix worth keeping?
Make sure you have and keep a core of solid guys, have a good dynamic with the coaching staff
It wasn’t a problem last year
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by Thomas Beekers on Jul 30, 2011 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
I agree but it had much less opportunity to be an issue as it was Pete's first year.
Earl Thomas + Mark Legree = Earl Gree. A new flavor of safety coming to you on Sunday's this Fall. They're gonna wake you up!
I know we signed UDFA kicker Wes Byrum but isn't it to be to expected that we bring in a vet for training camp competition?
I can’t see a rookie just being handed the job but I hope to God we don’t carry two kickers EVER again! :)
I know fans who are predicting a 3 win season
I made two bets of 200 each with the line at 6.5 wins, with me going with 7. Thoughts please.
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Gambling is a good way to lose money?
by GnarlyHawk on Jul 30, 2011 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Thinking that if they were predicting 3 wins you set your line way too high.
I’d be taking the under at 6.5, but the over on 3.5. I’m thinking they’ll finish in the 5 or 6 win range.
Thoughts: you’re probably out $400.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
But,
you never know when you play the cards, rams, and niners twice a year each. Could be 5 wins right there.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
My thoughts exactly
Hoping for four there, and some Whitehurst magic for three more.
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by blackvanilla on Jul 30, 2011 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
19-0
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by ironheart777 on Jul 30, 2011 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'd say 3-5 wins.
It’s a pretty rough schedule, and the QBs that we have don’t inspire a hell of a lot of confidence.
by splintrdmind on Jul 30, 2011 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions
According to a poster on NN, the Eagles are looking for players not picks in a Asante Samuel trade.
I wouldn’t be thrilled with us going after him but if we are interested, there was a report about Kolb prior to the trade that said if the Seahawks wanted to acquire Kolb, Philly didn’t want any players from the Seahawks, just a first round pick.
Well it sounds like we won't be getting Samuel even if we wanted him.
Earl Thomas + Mark Legree = Earl Gree. A new flavor of safety coming to you on Sunday's this Fall. They're gonna wake you up!
To clarify, I'm not trying to say the Eagles would ask for a first round pick for Samuel, just that if they don't like our players I don't see how a deal could be made.
by StealthHawk on Jul 30, 2011 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions
But Samuels isn't a fit.
I don’t see any interest coming from our FO.
70% of space is covered by dark matter, the rest by ET.
Doesn't Samuels play a ;pt pf Tampa-2 zone in Philidelphia?
I thought zone was his strength. If that’s the case, he’s a great fit here.
by EthelGemerman on Jul 30, 2011 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions
You're right
I’m thinking of safeties. We do play man with CBs.
by EthelGemerman on Jul 30, 2011 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions
There is a new Camp Update vid on Facebook.
All of our new signees are at camp, cheerleading. Also get a peek at Moffitt.
OOOOOH!!!!! That was NASTY!!!!!!!!
I know it's a highlight package
but Kris Dunham looks smooth on his YouTube highlights (sound muted). He’d be even more open if the QB didn’t keep underthrowing him. Also seems to be able to take the ball in a crowd and hang onto it.
Durham might be a sneaky draft win.
Just look at the raves Jaquiz (sp?) Rodgers is already getting in Atlanta despite the late pick. It still surprises me how easily some really good players can fly under the radar. Walter Thurman is one of those guys. His play at corner in his first year is as good as anyone could expect from a high draft pick.
by EthelGemerman on Jul 30, 2011 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Some skill player always gets rave reviews in camp
And then does nothing in the season. See: Tate, Golden
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by Thomas Beekers on Jul 30, 2011 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions
Could be
I’ve always thought of Rodgers as a D’Angelo Williams (is that his name? That small Jacksonville RB?) type player. The numbers he put up in the PAC10 were real. I’d like to see him succeed. Mostly because I’m also small. Hero for the short man!
by EthelGemerman on Jul 30, 2011 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
You're thinking of Maurice Jones-Drew
DeAngelo Williams is a RB for the Panthers.
by Matt Erickson on Jul 31, 2011 3:09 AM PDT up reply actions
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